From: fegmaniax@ecto.org To: fegmaniax-digest@ecto.org Reply-To: fegmaniax@ecto.org Subject: Feg Digest V4 #111 Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 111 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Robyn -- the healthy, untroubled Syd GLASS FLESH cd cometh... various pointlessness Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) Re: Wild Mountain Thyme Re: Kershaw Sessions the cd again. Robyn Songs you Hate! Forward of a message from Warner Bros. Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! track listings Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) WARNER mail order? 'Legendary' albums Balloon Man Re: Legendary albums Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! Re: track listings Greasy Quiff ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:52:24 -0700 From: shmac@ix.netcom.com (Scott Hunter McCleary) Subject: Robyn -- the healthy, untroubled Syd Saw this in the July issue of CMJ New Music (from a review of Epic Soundtracks' "Change My Life" CD): ... he's a healthy, untroubled Syd Barrett. I guess that makes him Robyn Hitchcock. SH McCleary 3052 S. Buchanan St., #A1 Arlington, VA 22206 shmac@ix.netcom.com The homepage: http://www.nalu.org/text/id.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 22:53:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: GLASS FLESH cd cometh... here is the track listing for the _Glash Flesh_ tribute cd. 1. prelude 2. brenda's iron sledge 3. listening to the higsons 4. another bubble 5. one long pair of eyes 6. she doesn't exist 7. queen of eyes 8. serpent at the gates of wisdom 9. old pervert 10. trash 11. airscape 12. insanely jealous 13. i something you 14. st. petersburg 15. clean steve 16. balloon man 17. love 18. flavor of night 19. donna summer As you can see, it contains selected tracks from glass flesh cassettes I, II and III. I have records of everyone who wanted one before, but I need to verify-- it's uncertain how many cd's will be able to be made, and I want to open up the ordering process to the musicians first. So if you have contributed to the project at any time, and you want a CD, please email me. You don't have to have done one of the songs listed above, as long as you sent me a song, you are eligible for a first-round CD. When contributors have been taken care of, I will take orders from everyone else. I think based on the initial response there will be enough to go around. Also, if you have CD-burning facilities available to you, please get in touch with me! two gentlemen have kindly agreed to help so far. the CD's are $15 or $20 depending on whether or not you care to contribute the the CD burner fund. If a CD burner is purchased it will be used to make CD's for the list. If not, the extra money will go to robyn. I'm not pocketing any of this, and his royalty is included in the price. bayard ps. we still need robyn covers for the third tape! get those tapes rolling... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 17:35:39 +1200 (NZST) From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: various pointlessness Who the hell are Regis & Kathie Lee? Is this some obscure piece of Americana you're using as revenge for Honiton Clyst and perspex? >Wasn't Robyn on a Fun Time cruise with Kathy Lee to Brasil when he saw the >dead body on the beach?..... nah. It was a night ride to Trinidad. >Hello. >It's summer. >I have a job. >I broke down and started paying for internet service. Therefore, I have a >new address [I got some new terrain. Is it north or south?] >Terrence Marks TerrENCE? Is this our Tel? And has he escaped the demon Florida? Film at eleven! >P.S. nya-nya-nya-nya-NYA-nya! I knew it was Mucky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well, now that that's over, maybe we can get down to the important business... like discussing exactly what it is that Linden Arden stole! James ("it's hair-nets, I tell you!") Dignan ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:16:44 -0800 From: kawhite@pacifier.com (Kristine White) Subject: Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) James was brave enough to ask ... >Who the hell are Regis & Kathie Lee? Is this some obscure piece of >Americana you're using as revenge for Honiton Clyst and perspex? You hit the nail on the head. Regis & Kathie Lee are co-hosts of a morning tv talk show based in New York city. If you're living in America and are so inclined, every Monday thru Friday you can listen to Kathie Lee babble ad nauseum about her two young children, Cody and Cassidy, and her I've-had-two- too many face lifts ex-football quarterback husband Frank Gifford. Oh, I forgot to mention, she fancies herself a singer, her hair gets blonder every day, and she goes thru three tubes of mascara a week. Regis is, well, a Regis. He tries to be funny, but typcially falls on his two-too-many face-lifts face. Surely there's a New Zeland equilvalent. Having written this, I'm afraid it sounds like I watch the show every day. Egad. K.A. White ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:56:57 -0900 From: BC-Radio@corcom.com (Brett Cooper) Subject: Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) >Regis is, well, a Regis. He tries to be funny, but typcially falls on his >two-too-many face-lifts face. You forgot to mention Regis' 1968 misguided missile album, "It's Time For Regis!", in which he performs such hits as "Toot, Toot, Tootsie (Goodbye)", "Mame", and "Swanee". Brett ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:15:48 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Wild Mountain Thyme Have those erratic but brilliant "Transatlantic Sessions" TV shows got to the USA yet? There was a sensational version of WMT by (if I remember) Dick Gaughan, Emmylou Harris and the McGarrigle Sisters. Are they being released on CD or video? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:27:22 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: Kershaw Sessions On Sat, 15 Jun 1996, Brett Cooper wrote: > I just bought "The Kershaw Sessions" yesterday. Very impressive album. I > like it a lot, but I am not clear on one point: was the entire album made > at the BBC on a portable DAT recorder? > > Brett I wouldn't have thought so - I think this only applies to the 'in the kitchen' tracks, with the rest being done in the studio. But you'd better ask Aidan... - Mike G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:50:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard Subject: the cd again. Sorry to keep going on about this, but i just wanted to say that i've just been notified that there is a worldwide shortage of recordable cd's at the moment, and they're a bit more expensive than they were.. so if purchasers of the cd could send $20, that would be great. What you get for your 20 bucks: a full color insert with notes on the songs; a marked limited edition number; a cd with 74 minutes of nifty robyn covers performed by your friends here on the list (and vic chesnutt). Also includes shipping and robyn's cut. Musicians who contributed to the project may go ahead and send cheques at this time if interested. My address: Bayard L. Catron IV 5905 Greentree Road Bethesda, MD 20817 USA ------------------------------ From: NJARMAN@frmail.rosemount.com Subject: Robyn Songs you Hate! Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:07:04 -0500 All this talk about favourite Robyn tracks and which songs you would put on to compilations for your friends, got me thinking. What tracks wouldn't I put on a compilation because I wouldn't want to risk putting off a potential new fan. Although this may be heracy, there are a few real duffers. My least favourite at the moment would have to be something like "Certainly Clickot" from Eye. Every time I hear this track it just grates! What the hell is all that about then? Should we also compile a bottom 5 tracks? Cheers, Nigel Jarman P.S. I am a long time Robyn fan and have seen him play several times in the UK. Don't get the wrong Idea, I think he is the No. 1 songwriter today! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 08:07:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Griffith Davies Subject: Forward of a message from Warner Bros. Here is a message I received from Warner: >From: Ceci Cano >To: hbrtv219@huey.csun.edu >Subject: Re: > >Robin Hitchcock is scheduled for release on August 13 or if you're a >collector, you can get the vynl version July 16. The album is called "Mossy >Liquor". griffith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:42:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! > Should we also compile a bottom 5 tracks? hmmmmmm why don't we just make it easy.........the track listing of Queen Elvis........... -----Bret ------------------------------ From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 12:29:15 -0400 Subject: track listings I should have added these to the oher days posting as they are on the fax as well (as is one of those really stupid photos of Robyn in sunglasses, which I have a feeling is the cover) And again, CD on August 13th, vinyl July 23rd... MOSS ELIXIR sisnister but she was happy/the devil's radio/heliotrope/alright, yeah/filthy bird/the speed of things/beautiful queen/man with a woman's shadow/i am not me/de chirico street/you and oblivion/this is how it feels MOSSY LIQUOR: OUTTAKES AND PROTOTYPES alright, yeah (in swedish)/beautiful queen/shuffling over the flagstones/cool bug rumble/wide open star/each of her silver wands/de chirico street/as lemons chop/sinister but she was happy/trilobite/the devil's radio/helitrope And there doesn't seem to be anything he hasn't played before, unless he's been performing his sets in Swedish again... Carl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:24:38 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! >> Should we also compile a bottom 5 tracks? >hmmmmmm why don't we just make it easy.........the track listing of Queen >Elvis........... AAAAAGH! THAT WAS BLASHPHEMOUS! (yes, i am yelling.) Queen Elvis is up there as one of my favorite Egyptians albums. It is by far THE BEST A&M album. Swirling, Devil's Coachman, and Madonna o/t Wasps are classic, timeless, favorite songs that would easily rank on my top 20 robyn songs list. This worst songs thread is liable to cause some resentment, especially if it turns into worst albums thread. I HATE: 1. Arms of Love (Respect version--this was a brilliant song ruined by production. Wineglasses, and hardly any guitar at all!) it should have been acoustic, like the version on Mountainstage CD. (does anyone have this? it is tracks from many different Mountainstage shows. great mix of artists including Michelle Shocked, Billy Bragg, Robyn, REM, June Tabor, and more----and Deni Bonet is all OVER it! It is really a great CD--it is VOLUME 2 by the way) 2. Falling Leaves (what is THIS? SOUNDS like Lennon, but cheezy horns) 3. Young People Scream. (no reason--i just don't like it) 4. Knife ( i know i just freaked out about someone defiling the name of Queen Elvis, but this song is boring. the only stinker in the bunch.) 5. do soft boys songs count? I don't really care for Human Music (Can of Bees version). I do like the Portland Arms version tho. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "you're so boring boring boring / always tape machine recording you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before" -Dead Kennedys john b. jones jojones@syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: TchdnJesus@aol.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 13:44:39 -0400 Subject: Re: Kathie Lee et al (sans Robyn) In a message dated 96-06-17 02:24:32 EDT, kawhite@pacifier.com writes: >James was brave enough to ask ... >>Who the hell are Regis & Kathie Lee? Is this some obscure piece of >>Americana you're using as revenge for Honiton Clyst and perspex? > >You hit the nail on the head. Regis & Kathie Lee are co-hosts of a morning >tv talk show based in New York city. If you're living in America and are so >inclined, every Monday thru Friday you can listen to Kathie Lee babble ad >nauseum about her two young children, Cody and Cassidy, and her >I've-had-two- too many face lifts ex-football quarterback husband Frank >Gifford. Oh, I forgot to mention, she fancies herself a singer, her hair >gets blonder every day, and she goes thru three tubes of mascara a week. minor points: frank was a wide receiver, and is also one of the anchors or monday night football and twenty years older than kathie lee, and it's five tubes. she also tries to sell cody for whiskey in the green room before every show [nod2bennett]. kathie lee is also in trouble at the moment because her line of clothing, besides only being available at walmart [doing to small town america what the us army did to my lai [sp?] was being manufactured in child labor sweatshops in honduras, which, for an alleged child advocacy activist [my ass] is a rather bad trait. she thinks she's [the public image of] mother theresa, but is really ivana trump without the charm [or perhaps fergie without the charm and with more mascara, lots more mascara].......... ------------------------------ From: firstcat@lsli.com Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 13:25:52 Subject: WARNER mail order? Since Houston is tumbling head long into the 21st century and banished shops that sell lps, unless its by Pearl Wham!, does anyone know if Warner does mail order, or am I going to have to sell another kidney to bribe the zit faced kid at the cd store to order it? Jay ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall Channel Sales Director Livermore Software Laboratories, Intl. 2825 Wilcrest, Suite 160 Houston, Texas 77042-3358 1-713-974-3274 jay@lsli.com Date: 6/17/96 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jun 96 15:33:39 EDT From: Positive Vibrations <101356.2516@CompuServe.COM> Subject: 'Legendary' albums This is a reply to about 15 private e-mails I've had today. I'm posting the reply to the list to pre-empt other queries; please skip over this if you don't care. Be warned that this is long, and not very interesting to non-completists. > ...but what are Jet Set Flyer and Greasy Quiff? OK - there are three 'legendary' Robyn Hitchcock albums from his early (pre _Trains_) period: _Greasy Quiff_, _Jet Set Flyer_ and _Demons & Fiends_, in chronological order. _Greasy Quiff_ was recorded in the early 1970s, by the 'Toby Jug & Washboard Band'. (TJ&W was an in-joke - whenever two or more CFC bands collaborated they used this name.) It featured a mob of rather duff folkies, including a young Mr Hitchcock, Mr Rew (allegedly - he isn't in the photo on the cover) and Nick Barraclough, later of Radio 2. Side A was a studio recording; side B was live at CFC. It is absolutely awful; only 99 were pressed and they were only sold at CFC gigs; because of this rarity, prices have gone up to silly money (US$1000-ish). The track listing is: Studio: I Often Dream Of Trains Wringing That Thing Snivelling Kid of the Himalayas Viola Lee Blues He's In The Jailhouse Your Mother Don't Know Live: Entrance Bungie's Blues Puppet on a String Evil People Take A Mac Greasy Quiff Here's One for George Mean Old World John's Mum Farmer Joe Elastic Landlady (Don't be fooled by the long tracklist. Most of the songs from the live set are VERY short. Be warned that both the above albums are a. awful and b. hideously overpriced.) _Jet Set Flyer_ was the first Soft Boys album and is worse. Robyn denies any knowledge of it; Kimberley & Andy will grudgingly admit to it. The album is all (bad) covers of pub-rock standards. It wasn't released under the SBs name; it was put out under the name John Barry, presumably to try to fool fans of John Barry the C&W legend. The line-up was (as listed on the sleeve): John Barry - electric guitar, Roger Jackson - musical director & keyboards, Kimberley Rew - lead guitar acoustic, Robyn Hitchcock - rhythm guitar, Andy Metcalfe - bass guitar, Alex Cooper - drums, Andy McGhee - banjo, Jenny Marr/Alex Cooper/Kimberley Rew/Robyn Hitchcock/Roger Jackson - vocals, produced by Gary Lucas & Roger Jackson, engineered by Gary Lucas at Spaceward. The tracklist is: Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town When You're In Love With A Beautiful Woman Grandma's Feather Bed Ghost Riders In The Sky She Believes In Me Jet Set Flyer Pretty Woman The Coward Of The County If I Said You Had A Beautiful Body Would You Hold It Against Me Amanda Escape Your Song _Demons & Fiends_ was written & recorded in the early 1980s, after the SBs split, and never released. It's wildly uneven, but not bad in places. The tracklist was: Melting Arthur You're So Repulsive Nothing Insect Mother Demons & Fiends Stranded In The Future Opiatressence X Aether Wadahumart Hope all this helps. Sorry for boring y'all... Aidan ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jun 96 15:54:29 EDT From: The Flower That Rocks <101356.2516@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Balloon Man "Balloon Man is about overeating. It's about a fat guy I saw when I was in New York" - Robyn, in the press release that accompanied the single. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 19:41:25 -0500 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: Re: Legendary albums >This is a reply to about 15 private e-mails I've had today. I'm posting the >reply to the list to pre-empt other queries; please skip over this if you don't >care. Be warned that this is long, and not very interesting to non-completists. >OK - there are three 'legendary' Robyn Hitchcock albums from his early (pre >_Trains_) period: _Greasy Quiff_, _Jet Set Flyer_ and _Demons & Fiends_, in >chronological order. >Hope all this helps. Sorry for boring y'all... > >Aidan BORING? Aidan, please! This is very interesting stuff, dwarfed only by the news of the new Robyn album (which will hopefully be better than the above mentioned albums.) Does anyone have these albums besides Aidan? Aidan taped Jet Set Flyer for me awhile back, and I would be willing to pass it along in exchange for Greasy Quiff, or Demons & Fiends. ; ) Lastly, it is sad that there are no "new" Robyn songs on either Moss or Mossy. What I mean is, I have heard them all before, at his gigs. I was lamenting this fact to my wife, who just laughed and said, "that's what you get for collecting tapes of his shows." : ( -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "you're so boring boring boring / always tape machine recording you're so boring boring boring / and you've heard all this before" -Dead Kennedys john b. jones jojones@syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:14:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: Robyn Songs you Hate! > hmmmmmm why don't we just make it easy.........the track listing of Queen > Elvis........... Cheap shot. Queen Elvis the second best A&M album, after Respect. The first three songs are classics (Madonna of the Wasps, The Devil's Coachman and Wax Doll), the middle songs are boring but tolerable, and the end is fairly good also. (I dig Superman and Freeze). Globe of Frogs, I think, has Robyn's best and worst at A&M. (best: Globe of Frogs, Flesh #1, Balloon Man. Worst: Luminous Rose, Shapes Between Us, Tropical Flesh Mandala) Eye? Well, I really fail to see it as a theme or concept album. If it is one of those "theme of lonliness" albums or whatever, someone please explain how Beautiful Girl, Certainly Cliquot and the first half of Cynthia Mask fit in? Perspex: Too commercial And I think that there's one more album that I'm forgetting Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Re: track listings Wait a minute... Doesn't have: I Something You Surfer Ghost Statue With a Walkman Shadowcat Hmm...both tenative titles (Surfer Ghost, Shadowcat) were cut from the album? What gives? Surfer Ghost was one of the best tracks on NetSurfer Ghost.. Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 22:27:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Terrence Marks Subject: Greasy Quiff Just wondering... Why the hell is Greasy Quiff so expensive... If I remember economics class... Prices are determined by supply and demand. Now, admittedly, the supply of Greasy Quiff is low. Very low. But where does the demand come from? [This is the Big Feg Mail List...if anyone here has a copy besides Aidan Merritt, let me know..] I mean...Robyn isn't *that* famous. His fangroup, for the most part, doesn't know about this album. Robyn denies all existance of it. I doubt that Robyn's friends managed to drive the price up to L1000. I mean...Not even the album by Joker's Wild (Dave Gilmour [Pink Floyd Guitarist]'s first band. About 100 were made) commands that kind of price. And Dave Gilmour probably has a much larger fan group... What gives? Terrence "The Human Mellotron" Marks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. .