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Re: white boys Stones Lyrics (re: Feg Digest Vol 4 Num 94) Re: This Could be the Day ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 10:46:05 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: a china pug If there is an objection, it is that the riff is self-plagiarised from Acid Bird. But if you can't nick your own riffs, whose can you nick? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 1996 12:34:42 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: 66/96: the softboy celebrates What an amazing show that must have been! Any comments on Robyn's mood, playing etc.... Michael >Robyn Hitchcock >Borderline, London, *25 May 96* > >1st set (solo acoustic): >She Belongs To Me >4th Time Around >Visions of Johanna >Baby Blue >Desolation Row >-- >2nd set (with band, Homer): >Tell Me Mama >Baby Let Me Follow You Down >Tom Thumbs Blues >Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat >One Too many Mornings >Thin Man >Rolling Stone >__ >Dignity (semi-acoustic w/lead, bass) >Queen Jane (w/band) > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 96 09:42:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Re: a china pug ======== Original Message ======== If there is an objection, it is that the riff is self-plagiarised from Acid Bird. But if you can't nick your own riffs, whose can you nick? - Mike Godwin ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== I think nicking your own riffs is actually kinda cool if you're making some kind of connection to the original. Zappa did this all the time (and HE was cool...wasn't he?). Robyn's best example is the "When I Was A Kid"/"When I Was Dead" riff. Unfortunately I could never discern any connection between Acid Bird and Vibrating. However, once I got used to the idea of "Vibrating" being it's own song I got over my initial disapointment. I also enjoy most of John Fogerty's self-nicked riffs (the only artist ever to be sued for plagiarizing himself). -russ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 96 09:16:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Invisible H. 1. I enjoy Invisible Hits. 2. It seems silly to criticize "Invisible Hits" as being a weak album when it was really only a collection of oddities recorded over the course of his career. The songs were never meant to go together. This release belongs in the same category as Y&O, and I happen to like the songs much better than the songs on Y & O...which is why [see #1] 3. but that's just me. 4. I picked up a copy of Invisible History over the weekend and have enjoyed it ever since. Most of those tunes I already owned on vinyl, but it's nice to finally have "the ruling class" on CD. Of the unreleased recordings, "Smoothie" stands out. Inlay says it's "probabably" an outtake from Underwater Moonlight. Do we know this for sure? It sounds to me like something Kimberley could have written--anyone else hear this? 5. no more points to make, except that five is a nice round number and I can be pretty anal about things like that. -russ ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 00:30:36 -0400 Subject: More literary Robyn... Since this thread is back, here's one I found this weekend: "The dancing floor and bar lay up a wide curving flight of marble steps lined with statues in niches: statues of Knights, ladies and Turks. Such was a quality of suspended animation about them that you felt come the owl-hours... these statues must unfreeze, step down from their pedestals, and ascend stately to the dancefloor bringing with them their own light: the seas's phosphorescence." -Thomas Pynchon, "V." The whole "statues come to life" thing is common as mud in literature, but the only other time I've seen it so freely and quickly associated with marine phosphorescence is in Robyn's immortal "Underwater Moonlight". The novel was written in 1963, so there were as yet no Walkmans for the statues to be wearing. The bar in question is on the island of Malta, which is depicted earlier in the book under siege during WWII; Messeschmidts references abound. Speaking of which, where Robyn and "people of colo(u)r" are concerned, I still consider it probable that *white* boys masturbate, thus leaving soft boys to wind up with the aforementioned Dr. Messeschmidts. Soft Boys would thus be non-white (QED) as well as non-vertebrate. ...and in "This Could Be the Day", is Robyn saying that the tongues of fire come from "MY Nubian slaves", or "Mynubian slaves"-- the former seems odd, while the latter refers to something I've never heard of: Mynubia or the Mynubians. Anyhow, if the narrator of the song posesses Nubian slaves, Robyn is already having him punished for it, what with their tongues of fire hissing through the dark and tropical night, not to mention that narsty malignant growth... Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:21:47 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: 66/96: the softboy celebrates >2nd set (with band, Homer): >Tell Me Mama >Baby Let Me Follow You Down >Tom Thumbs Blues >Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat >One Too many Mornings >Thin Man >Rolling Stone >__ I see that this set is IDENTICAL with the Albert Hall bootleg order (actually recorded in Manchester, I believe). I don't know enuff to comment on the first set and encores. Were they also off the original set list, Dylan buffs? - Mike Godwin PS I was still a blues purist in 1966, so I was going to see Sleepy John Estes, Otis Spann, Son House, Skip James etc. but NOT Bob Dylan. What a clod, eh? PPS What or who is Bascom, anyway? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:52:48 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: More literary Robyn... Most of the Ancient Egyptians I know have Nubian slaves (apart from the ones who ARE Nubian slaves). I think RH was probably back in 900 BC when this got written. - Mike Godwin PS Is 12th Night the Shakespeare play where the statue comes to life? It was one I saw anyway - Lawrence Harvey and Jane Asher were in it, and (?) Moira Redmond (?) played the statue. Or was it Winter's Tale? ------------------------------ From: "Aaron J. Sparrow" Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 10:54:27 -0500 Subject: Re: This Could be the Day >> ...and in "This Could Be the Day", is Robyn saying that the >> tongues of fire come from "MY Nubian slaves", or "Mynubian slaves" -- >> the former seems odd, while the latter refers to something I've >> never heard of: Mynubia or the Mynubians. I'm writing with nothing of substance to contribute -- just to say that I was listening to the very same song this morning on the way to work, wondering exactly the same thing. But while we're on the subject of lyrical confusion, here's a question of my own: In "Autumn is Your Last Chance", is it "I don't care AND you're not there" or "I don't care WHEN you're not there" or something else entirely? Aaron ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:55:14 -0400 From: gene@cadmus.com (Gene Hopstetter, Jr.) Subject: Re: This Could be the Day >But while we're on the subject of lyrical confusion, here's a >question of my own: > >In "Autumn is Your Last Chance", is it "I don't care AND you're >not there" or "I don't care WHEN you're not there" or something else >entirely? I definitely believe it is "AND" and not "WHEN." If Robyn had used the latter, the song would have an entirely different feel, I think. I think Robyn is thinking of a lover who is gone forever, not one who may or may not return. +++++++++++++++++ Internet Publishing Specialist + Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + Cadmus Digital Solutions +++++++++++++++++ http://cjs.cadmus.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 96 09:15:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: white boys <> Yes, it's very probable that *most* boys masturbate. However, *wide* boys mess a bit. sorry--I don't want to turn this into another Bucky/Mucky thing, but "wide" falls more into line than "white" when you consider the other boys mentioned are soft and hard (BTW--anyone ever hear of a band called the Tall Boys? I think I've got a record from them at home). And they mess a bit because (a) that's what it sounds like, and (b) it rhymes. Russ. PS: he clearly sings "Mucky" on the video compilation, but I still say it's "Bucky" on the record. ------------------------------ From: LORDK@library.phila.gov Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 13:40:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Statues before walkamens, and whats that great movie? Draughtmans Contract? From: FLPSYS::LORDK 29-MAY-1996 13:31:29.22 To: SMTP%"hssmrg@bath.ac.uk" CC: LORDK Subj: Re: More literary Robyn... Hi This is a question for a literature librarain! The statue coming to life in Shakespeare(bar it happening in one of the more obscure history plays, ewhich Ive not read)is probobly from A Winters Tale, in which Hermoine, the wife of the Duke of something, and whom he thinks he had executed when he unjustly suspected her of adultery(othello-ishly) is shown to him as a statue which"miraciouliously " comes to life, when he realizes what a dolt hes been and repents(repentance and restoration being the big news in Shakespeares late plays, which this is but one). Since his daughter is restored to him, complete with an engagement to the son of the guy the Duke thought had cuckolded him, theres joy all around. I know that dosnt sound like a very fetching reccommendation, but the last 4 shakespeare plays, the romances-Pericles,Cymbeline(my favorite), a winters Tale, and the Tempest, might appeal to Robyn fans. Im not sure why, but --theres a flavour to them , which at times runs close to our hero's creations. Or so it feels to me Kay the giving her party on June17th in Philly, youre all invited, Cap ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 12:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber Subject: Re: white boys On Wed, 29 May 1996, Russ Reynolds wrote: :PS: he clearly sings "Mucky" on the video compilation, but I still say it's :"Bucky" on the record. : Maybe he had a cold when he recorded the record. Try saying "Mucky" with a stuffy nose and you'll see what I mean. --g "If we were meant to be nude, we would have been born that way." --Source unknown ------------------------------------------- | Glen E. Uber | | hirsute@homer.u.washington.edu | | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~hirsute | ------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 29 May 96 17:22:30 EDT From: "N. Rob Leas" <74511.775@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Stones Lyrics (re: Feg Digest Vol 4 Num 94) From: Hedblade@aol.com >With all the "Stones" references here over the past couple of days, I was >wondering if somebody could post me the lyrics to the song. Know most of >them, but can't quite figure them all out. I could, of course, but I'm sort >of lazy. It looks as if no-one's responded since you made this request so I'll give a pitiful lazy response. Most of it's decipherable. The hard part is: "Stained glass elaborations collapse, candy floss evaporates, honey..." N. Rob Leas leasnr@bankerstrust.com <*** Music is the best. - FZ ***> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 17:40:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: This Could be the Day > In "Autumn is Your Last Chance", is it "I don't care AND you're > not there" or "I don't care WHEN you're not there" or something else > entirely? I hear it very definitely as "I don't care and you're not there and I don't care." Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest.