Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 89 Send posts to fegmaniax@ecto.org Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@ecto.org Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@ecto.org FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Our own personal party lines... Re: feg dream Re: feg dream Re: feg dream Re: Dreams Ma In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! RE: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! midnight issues vs rhino midnight issues vs rhino Invisible History adverts Guided By Voices (little to no RH content) liner notes and extra tracks and class differences reissues and such Re: In defense of crud; Death??? Liner notes and tape tree. ------------------------------ Date: 14 May 1996 09:11:43 U From: "Stein_Alex" Subject: Our own personal party lines... If you don't want your mailbox taken up with multiple postings, why not get the digest? Read it in the morning (or the evening), get everything in one shot and you've got the other 23 hours and 55 minutes free to live your life. Just a suggestion. Alex ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 96 12:21 PDT From: upstart@mindlink.bc.ca (Renee Lynn) Subject: Re: feg dream Scott said: >The strangest thing to me was that several of you -- and we've never met -- >were very real. In particular, the guy running the VCR was rather short and >had long, straight very red-orange hair. Something tells me it's somebody >I've seen (perhaps at a gig?). Anybody fit that description? Yeah, it fits me, but I am a girl. It kinda fits my sister, too, come to think of it. Maybe we all look like that. BCing U RLT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 1996 12:55:14 -0800 (AKDT) From: Brett Cooper Subject: Re: feg dream On Tue, 14 May 1996, Renee Lynn wrote: > Yeah, it fits me, but I am a girl. It kinda fits my sister, too, come to > think of it. Maybe we > all look like that. > > BCing U > RLT Doesn't fit me, though. I have blonde hair. I am a guy, though, thank goodness! Brett ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 May 96 20:45:32 PDT From: Keyser Soze Subject: Re: feg dream Is it just me or did I see this on a Studs re-run? jay --- On Tue, 14 May 96 12:21 PDT Renee Lynn wrote: >Scott said: >>The strangest thing to me was that several of you -- and we've never met -- >>were very real. In particular, the guy running the VCR was rather short and >>had long, straight very red-orange hair. Something tells me it's somebody >>I've seen (perhaps at a gig?). Anybody fit that description? > >Yeah, it fits me, but I am a girl. It kinda fits my sister, too, come to >think of it. Maybe we >all look like that. > >BCing U >RLT > > -----------------End of Original Message----------------- ------------------------------------- Jay Lyall "The All Amerikan Cid" E-mail: rasputin@onramp.net Date: 5/14/96 ------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:03:49 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Re: Dreams > Do any of you use dreams for writing? When I'm writing a song, I often > feel it's like recalling a half-forgotten dream. Like when parts of a > song are effortless, and just feel right. I struggle to connect the > dots sometimes, and sometimes get the feeling that I "remembered" it > correctly. Other times, I'm definitely "making it up". Know what I > mean? I happen to be performing a song straight from a dream in public this coming Friday night! But yes, I know exactly what you mean. But, as Poe once said, all is a dream within a dream. And as Debbie Harry once said, dreaming is free. And as Robyn once said, Napoleon ate lots of chicken. James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:42:14 +1200 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Ma >although any info on the bootleg would make ma quite happy......... >Well, now, that's right big of you to consider her feelings, what with >Mother's Day just around the bend! :) Unfortunately, mine doesn't have >such eclectic tastes. Which brings up a potential thread. Does anyone have >parents who have acquired a taste for Robyn, et al? Sadly, my 66 year old grey haired mother is too busy listening to trance-dance, world music and ambient, although she is a fan of the Chills and tolerates Billy Bragg, so I suppose there's hope yet. >James "Beaker" Moore (mmmm... I'm from the deep south, too... we gotta >come up with another qualifier...) jimm@dbu.edu even more confusing when you consider I recorded with the Beaker People on Glass Flesh. erm... James - the world's southernmost feg. Anyone in Tierra del Fuego out there? PS: this is my second and last post of the day - I'll try not to be so noisy, I promise! ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 04:00:54 -0400 Subject: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Ross replies to me, in a flamey kinda way, "How much crud do you like between what the Byrds heard in the studio and what's on your speakers?" Well, the first time I heard these records, y'know, I wasn't in the studio with the Byrds-- as Robyn says in his cover of "Eight Miles High", I wasn't even born yet. So sometimes the cleaned- up versions, interesting though they are, just don't sound emotionally "right". I first heard "Blonde on Blonde" on a really scratchy used lp that I bought just for the hell of it, and it converted me to Dylan. I have it on CD now, and it sounds all wrong. If I'd heard it on CD, or a clean LP, I might've been just as moved and changed by it. Guess we'll never know. This is one of many inscrutable side-effects of living as un unwitting, yet discerning child of the Postmodern Age, which I cannot help but do. I mentioned the Byrds' "Why" because, the first time I heard it, on one of theose insulting little cassettes, it sounded SO crazy and unlike anything else that I couldn't figure out how those guys got that UberHusker guitar sound in 1965. When I heard the remixed version on "Never Before", I was a bit disappointed to learn that what I'd been hearing was McGuinn's 12-string and Crosby's 6-string mushed together by the limitations of my tape. But that sound had given me ideas. I'm sure you've all heard the tale of how the Kinks invented guitar overdrive / distortion in an attempt to emulate the way they THOUGHT the guitars sounded on their favorite records, having listened to those records exclusively through a hi-fi with blown-out speakers... But the other thing that irritates me about this whole remastering thing is that now I'm expected to buy, once again, all the albums I've been upgrading from vinyl and tape already. That's a truly cynical attitude. Yeah, the sound on my early-run Columbia Byrds discs is no great shakes, but neither, relatively speaking, is what's on those master tapes. Sure, if you're made out of money, it's no big deal, and maybe a lot of you are richer than me. But if you shell out $65 for slightly improved versions of albums you've already bought twice, are you really that much more ENRICHED than me, who's sitting pretty with perfectly listenable versions of some great music? (nb. most of these Byrds "bonus" tracks and essential remasters are otherwise available...) I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE complement of Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! I was semi-lucky (mucky?) in that the reissues came out halfway through my attempt to complete my Robyn-catalog-CD upgrade. But did I buy a whole new $16 copy of "Fegmania" for a little extra clarity and some "bonus" demos, when I already had it on disc and that money could be better spent discovering someone else's music, or buying a good book, fer Chrissakes? Hell, no! (But apparently some people did sell their whole back catalogs back; I certainly never would've shelled out full import price for a digital rendition of the essentially disposable "Invisible Hitchcock", and only possess one because someone traded in their Midnight Music copy for the "superior"Rhino version ... LIKE IT MATTERS...) Sorry for the invective; I just feel that I didn't deserve the flame, and that this is all a matter of A) aesthetic taste, which is inarguable, and B) insidious assumptions about money and the intrinsic value of a person depending on how much he / she has. If you buy into capitalism so far that it affects your judgment of a person on the basis of how much they're willing to shell out for what's essentially "cult" music these days, then I'm sorry... there is no hope for you. ______________________________________________ r" e t On a "li note, Kay finally admits: " Actually Im Warren Zevon. Except I dont drink. Much. Well, you know, too much. Well, not often, well--- you know..." Ah, a little closer to the truth. Okay, nobody here is Robyn, but I suspect we're ALL slumming recording artists... Terry being Syd Barrett, Kay being my man Warren, the by-now-much-maligned Blatzman being of course Ian McNabb of the Icicle Works (trust me), Susan being Ray Davies, and me being... um, any number of people upon whom I seem to obsess, from Tom Verlaine and Kristin Hersh to... er... Bonnie Tyler. Anyone else care to "out" him / herself as a music celeb? Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:42:19 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Hi Rex I don't know about you, but every recording studio I've ever been in has had a CAR RADIO SPEAKER to listen to the recording through when you're sick of being blasted by Tannoy Golds, JBLs or whatever. Anyone with any sense DELIBERATELY records pop music so that it will sound good through a load of crud. I was horrified the first time I heard Blonde on Blonde on CD, and the same goes for an awful lot of 60s music. A lot of it isn't just transferred to CD, it is re-EQ'd and remixed until it becomes a different recording. Is anyone seriously claiming that being able to hear those 'off-mike' remarks by the Beatles shows up what they wanted you to hear? Of course not - they were expecting that only the essence of the music would get through. - Mike Godwin PS Trout Mask Replica sounds great on CD, though! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 08:03:25 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Rex wrote: >I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE complement of >Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! Yes, I have done this. I am certainly a victim to CD reissues. I have all of Robyn's stuff on vinyl, then I purchased the CD's, then I purchased the CD's again. It hurt much worse with the Elvis Costello reissues. I have all of EC's vinyl, then I purchased the Amercian CD issues but they were horrible sounding. Then, I found the European CDs to sound much better so I bought them.. Now the reissues are fantastic (I bought these too), but yowza!!!!! Anyway, the new Dr. Who was excellent despite being produced here in the States. I would have preferred at least a Robyn Hitchcock soundtrack, though. Michael ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 09:02:54 -0500 (EST) From: Dolph L Chaney Subject: Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! On Wed, 15 May 1996, M R Godwin wrote: > I was horrified the first time I heard Blonde on Blonde on > CD, and the same goes for an awful lot of 60s music. A lot of it isn't > just transferred to CD, it is re-EQ'd and remixed until it becomes a > different recording. > > Is anyone seriously claiming that being able to hear those 'off-mike' > remarks by the Beatles shows up what they wanted you to hear? Of course > not - they were expecting that only the essence of the music would get > through. Well, yes, I see this point, but there are a few examples where CD remastering is really crucial. For example (and bear with me -- I'm taking a bit of a leap into possibly-embarrassing-musical-tastes-for-a-Robyn-fan territory...) -- Genesis's SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND had been receiving lousy vinyl pressings ever since the very first edition, so a remaster was essential. (I haven't yet bought it, but I've heard the squashed version enough times that I'm salivating for the reissue.) -- The Who's THE WHO SELL OUT and TOMMY - these two reissues are among the best yet. I didn't have SELL OUT on CD, just the cassette, before buying the new issue, but the sound is fabulous and the bonus tracks are ASTOUNDING -- they actually *further* the concept-ness of the already amazing concept album! As for TOMMY, it's again a matter of contemporary vinyl pressings and initial CD pressings having a squashed dynamic range. This *really* hurt TOMMY; such bombastic music needs clarity and a really wide dynamic spectrum. ObRobyn: INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK *is* essential to some of us. Really. And the wok playing on "Listening To The Higsons" alone is worth the purchase price as far as I'm concerned. And while I definitely wish they'd left the saxes on "The Man Who Invented Himself," in general I think that the Rhino reissues are wonderful things. But then, I had only bought GROOVY DECOY on CD from Midnight, so maybe I shouldn't talk. But I guess I did anyway. Oh, and I'm actually Andy Partridge. 8-) Dolph ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 07:01:03 -0500 From: Grant & Lorrie Subject: RE: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! Rex wrote: >I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE complement of >Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! No way. My father in law got a copy of Fegmania from a music club and it was the Rhino. I listened to the extra tracks and can't justify the cost of new CD's at this point, regardless of the pain it causes knowing all those tracks are not part of my collection. What I'm hoping is that my Father-In-Law will buy all the re-releases, then give them to me after his musical tastes completely change to something like Barbershop Quartets. It may sound unlikely, but the guy does a complete identity change every couple of years. I may get those CD's yet. Also, I've recently become hooked on Guided By Voices, who have somehow slipped by me all these years. Catching up on this band is going to take a while since they have so many CD's, not to mention a boat-load of 7" singles and EP's. My CD budget is already rivaling items such as food and rent so I can't see getting those Rhino disks unless the bonus tracks on the other CD's are more inspiring than what I heard on Fegmania. Grant PS: I haven't heard a peep lately about the status of the new album. Anything in the rumor mill I missed? -- This message from Grant in beautiful downtown Corvallis, Oregon See our ever-changing home pages at http://www.proaxis.com/~gburnell/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 15:50:50 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin Subject: Re: In defense of crud; death to rampant consumerism! On Wed, 15 May 1996, Dolph L Chaney wrote: >For example (and bear with me -- I'm taking a bit of a leap into > possibly-embarrassing-musical-tastes-for-a-Robyn-fan territory...) > -- Genesis's SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND > Dolph Genesis, eh? Are you SURE I can't interest you in my picture-sleeve copy of 'Total Eclipse of the Heart'? - Mike Godwin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:53:22 -0500 From: Tim Bugbee Subject: midnight issues vs rhino >>> Michael Brage 05/15/96 09:03am >>> Rex wrote: >>I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE >>complement of >>Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! >Yes, I have done this. I am certainly a victim to CD reissues. I >have all of Robyn's stuff on vinyl, then I purchased the CD's, then I >purchased the CD's again. why would you want or need to replace the midnight editions w/ the rhino ones? from what i saw, the extra tracks usually consisted of demos or different takes of songs already released; there didn't seem to be any unreleased songs on *any* of the discs. are there titles any in particular that don't follow this pattern and are worth getting? spending $14 for liner notes is a bit excessive, IMO. tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 10:54:10 -0600 From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michael Brage) Subject: midnight issues vs rhino tim wrote: >why would you want or need to replace the midnight editions w/ the >rhino ones? from what i saw, the extra tracks usually consisted of >demos or different takes of songs already released; there didn't seem >to be any unreleased songs on *any* of the discs. are there titles any >in particular that don't follow this pattern and are worth getting? >spending $14 for liner notes is a bit excessive, IMO. For me, I enjoy Robyn's music so much that I really want everything I can get my hands on. My musical tastes are quite narrow so when I find an artist that I enjoy, I kind of go all out. I especially enjoy early versions or demos because I imagine that I can get to know the musician better, though I may not be wording this very well. The Beatles in-studio banter and early works is a lot of fun to listen to and refreshing. I'm probably a bit obsessive..... a bit. Michael ps. gosh, I've posted twice in one day. Shocker. ------------------------------ From: hollie_satterfield@mail.amsinc.com Date: Wed, 15 May 96 12:05:17 EST Subject: Invisible History adverts Invisible History is also being advertised by Music Machine in Maryland as a fan club release. Contact them at: 410-356-4567 http://www.musicmachine.com/musicmachine musimac@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 12:54:59 -0500 From: Tim Bugbee Subject: Guided By Voices (little to no RH content) >>> Grant & Lorrie 05/15/96 07:01am >>> Rex wrote: >I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE complement of >Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! Also, I've recently become hooked on Guided By Voices, who have somehow slipped by me all these years. Catching up on this band is going to take a while since they have so many CD's, not to mention a boat-load of 7" singles and EP's. My CD budget is already rivaling items such as food and rent so I can't see getting those Rhino disks unless the bonus tracks on the other CD's are more inspiring than what I heard on Fegmania. Grant somewhat surprised that GBV haven't been brought up among all of the byrds/who/beatles/name of favorite important british '60s rock band. GBV, for those not in the know, combine all of those ingredients into a sound all their own, yet almost eerily recognizable. If RH-loving fans like the badfinger/beatles colors of Robyn's catalog and aren't afraid of a non-64 track, polished sound, then dive right into the GBV discography. For those with plenty of $ to spend, BOX is a good place to start [it's only about $50, and contains albums 2 through 6 plus a bonus disc - the CDs only get you albums 2 through 5 since #5 (_propellor_) was added to the _vampire on titus_ cd] for instant gratification, get any of the last three efforts: _bee thousand_, _alien lanes_ (my personal favorite) or _under the bushes, under the stars_. you pretty much can't go wrong with any of them. digging out singles will be a bit tougher, but i think that most are still in print. these guys are the real item. if they stop in yr town, and they are on tour now, go see 'em. tim ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 01:25:53 -0500 From: kenster@MIT.EDU (Ken Ostrander) Subject: liner notes and extra tracks and class differences >>>I mean, did everyone except for me replace their ENTIRE >>>complement of >>>Midnight Music Robyn CD's with the Rhino reissues? I hope not! > >>Yes, I have done this. I am certainly a victim to CD reissues. I >>have all of Robyn's stuff on vinyl, then I purchased the CD's, then I >>purchased the CD's again. > >why would you want or need to replace the midnight editions w/ the >rhino ones? from what i saw, the extra tracks usually consisted of >demos or different takes of songs already released; there didn't seem >to be any unreleased songs on *any* of the discs. are there titles any >in particular that don't follow this pattern and are worth getting? >spending $14 for liner notes is a bit excessive, IMO. you're right about the price. the only rhino re-issues that i think (hindsight here) were really worth getting are _gotta let this hen out!_ ,which had some extra live tracks that seemed to be edited out of the lp i had, and the _gravy deco_ combination of tracks from _decoy_ (has anyone had problems with the midnight edition skipping?)& _decay_. sure, everything is probably available elsewhere, but if you don't have it, then you probably haven't been able to find it. or afford it. i've never heard the bonus tracks for _element of light_ but i've seen them on other releases. i, too, don't care much for 'the man who invented himself' without the horns (i can't (and usually don't)listen to it without whistling the missing riffs) and 'the pit of souls' full version isn't all that exciting either. also, _invisible hitchcock_ is essentially (slurp!)DELECTABLE. i'll leave it at that. but the big question is whether or not people are willing to post the liner notes from the re-issues. i'd be willing to post what i have: _fegmania!_ _gotta let this hen out!_ _gravy deco_ what about the rest of 'the professor' from _you & oblivion_? ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 96 15:35:47 CDT From: Truman Peyote Subject: reissues and such Having come late to the Robyn banquet, I tend to buy the reissues when I see them around, rather than the originals. If the price is the same (and it often is, or even cheaper, since the Midnights I've seen are usually imports and the Rhinos would be slightly cheaper by a buck or so), I'd prefer to get the one with extra tracks. Besides, I trust Rhino- it seems to be run by actual music fans, and believe me this is really rare (I know because I work as the jazz program director at my college station and have to deal with lots of scummy promotional type people :)). Same with Rykodisc. I bought all the David Bowie albums when they came out as RCA cds, except for my copy of Lodger, which is a Ryko- the difference in overall quality is so marked as to make me feel like a total fool for having bought the others on RCA. But I'm getting off the topic here.........having heard the vinyl "Invisible Hitchcock" I would have to say that I much prefer my Rhino reissue. As was mentioned earlier, the wok sound on "Higsons" is alone worth the price of admission. I can't say I see much difference between the vinyl "Element" (picked up an old Relativity copy) and the cd reissue, however- the extra tracks are the only reason to pick it up, the sound quality isn't different enough to justify the extra money. But I do so love having "Tell Me About Your Drugs" :). As per Rex's point- funny you should bring that up. For awhile I was using RayDavies as an online nickname, until I got fed up with either having to explain who he was (aaaaaah! the humanity!) or why I had chosen the name even though I am female (although I have had that same problem with Bram Tchaikovsky and the name I currently use :)). Duh! At least with Bram Tchaikovsky I didn't get people emailing me with questions about my (non-existent) peyote experiences who didn't seem to understand the joke inherent in the name. Anyways, I too want to see everyone "out" themselves......though perhaps more than one person will want John Lennon or Bob Dylan, so you should claim those swiftly if you want them (chuckling to myself thinking of the scene in "reservoir dogs" where Mr. Pink gets upset about his name, and when Mr. White tells him to shut up, he says "well, it's alright for you, you have a cool name" or something to that effect) :). I'm happy being Ray, myself. We even have the same birthday. Happy happy joy joy! But I think Rex should be forced to choose ONE person, since he brought up the idea in the first place. He can't be more than one, it indicates uncorrected personality traits of the most complex order :). Susan The Sherlock Holmes English-speaking vernacular ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Wed, 15 May 96 11:05:46 EDT Subject: Re: In defense of crud; Death??? Rex, I apologize publicly for any insult my response conveyed to you. I didn't intend to say anything about you personally, just to persue a technical point I'd heard discussed before. Jeez, was that a flame? As to the charges of "consumerism" I have my original stereo I bought when I was a stock boy at a department store (23 years ago) mostly because I can't afford to replace it. I have all the lp's I bought (about a thousand) because I can't afford to replace them. I have bought CD releases of a few lp's (mostly Beatles) that were very well worn, but haven't "replaced" a single one of them. I do find myself being more irritated by surface noise on the records. Maybe that's just middle aged crankiness. I can't imagine wishing for the addition of distortion to these recordings. Distorting an original sound to obtain an effect prior to recording it is an entirely different matter. I understand why tube amps are so valued by musicians, but shake my head in disbelief when I see that CD player with the tube in the analogue section; it sticks out so that everyone can see you have a tube in your setup. Crud can have snob value, too. I still think that what the Beatles heard in the studio is a lot more like what you hear on a CD than what you got on a car radio in the '60s. Assuming they had anything to do with the mix, the sounds they agreed on were what happened in the studio, not what happened in your living room. The rest is an artifact of the process of getting the music from the studio to your house. While one might argue that scratches on a print of silent film are part of the experience, they weren't part of the vision of the director, actors or camera operator. On the other hand, I fully understand the objection to colourizing classic films, but think that it's good that the option is there. Nobody can make me replace my records. The other point I'd like to make is that a lot of what are now classic recordings were considered throw-aways at the time, and were not given the care they would now be thought to deserve. How about the horrible mix in "Day Tripper", where John's guitar flubs were simply cut out, rather than fixing them, or at least leaving them in ? Once again, my apologies for my clumsy response to your posting. I've probably managed to offend you once again in this posting. I don't mean to. PS: Sometimes I think I'm Terry Marks. -- ROSS OVERBURY email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 May 1996 17:25:54 -0400 From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John, Jacci, & Madison) Subject: Liner notes and tape tree. ken wrote: > but the big question is >whether or not people are willing to post the liner notes from the >re-issues. i'd be willing to post what i have: > > _fegmania!_ > _gotta let this hen out!_ > _gravy deco_ > >what about the rest of 'the professor' from _you & oblivion_? ken and others-- I would be glad to help out in this regard....I gobbled up all the Rhino Reissues. Last summer I typed in a short story called "Rolo" that Robyn wrote for Raygun. It took me a few weeks, I posted it in installments, but I got it done. I would be glad to do a couple more "type and post" things THIS summer as well. Just be patient--I do data entry for a living, and so my fingers give me trouble sometimes. Also, summer has usually been the time that the feg list spits out a tape tree. I have a great radio show sent to me by Kevin Casey, who is also from this list. It is Robyn at KCRW-FM in Santa Monica, CA in Sept of last year playing all his favorite songs, doing that DJ thing. It is 100min long, 90min of it is Robyn playing DJ and commenting in between tracks The last 10min is the regular host playing Robyn songs and gushing after Robyn and Mishy had gotten into their pumpkin and left. The tape features songs by Dylan, Beefheart, Syd, Van Morrison, Incredible String Band, Belly, Cabaret Voltaire (one of Mischy's selections), and more. I would be glad to pass this onto a couple of branches. Does this sound fun or interesting? Let the summer begin!! %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu http://web.syr.edu/~jojones "Just because you're better than me/ Doesn't mean I'm lazy Just because you're going forward/ Doesn't mean I'm going backwards." -Mssr. Billy Bragg %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest.