Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 40 Send posts to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) Autumn Sea Re: Autumn Sea Autumn Sea Autumn Sea & Betty flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) Re: Autumn Sea Re: Autumn Sea Re: Autumn Sea Babysitting a new generation comp. Re: flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) Haylp! Oh, haylp! Content of the list Contents of the flame Re: Autumn Sea & Betty Re: Feg Digest Vol 4 Num 39 Re: flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) miscellaneous thingummies Submitted For Your Approval Re: Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) Robyn Quotations Re: Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) Reaction Balloon Man Re: Haylp! Oh, haylp! Re: Contents of the flame Re: Balloon Man Balloon Man, Vibrating, Flesh Cartoons Re: Reaction Re: Balloon Man, Vibrating, Flesh Cartoons Reaction reaction redux hi! Live Fegmaniax Re: Contents of the flame Re: Autumn Sea & Betty Re: Autumn Sea & Betty In-Store, and the power of appearences. Happy Cap on fegtstuff... A list of words no longer to be used on Fegmaniax Re: Happy Cap on fegtstuff... the naughty bits Re: Happy Cap on fegtstuff... Re: Haylp! Oh, haylp! Roger Jackson/Soft Boys Haylp! Oh, haylp! miscellaneous ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:32:06 -0500 Subject: Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) Shane sez: (Quick question unrelated to Robyn: Somebody mentioned Camper Van Beethoven which happens to be one of my all time faves and I was wondering about the Monks of Doom or Jonathan Segal's album or any of the other spin-offs with the exception of Cracker and if any of these is a "must have" for the Camper fan. I have one MoD cassette that is awful (hell, only used it once to fight off some people trying to illegally enter my clothes), but I don't remember what it was called. Sorry to digress.) The Monks are a disappointment, as you note. Segal's solo (double!) record is one of the most pretentious, self-indulgent pieces of fake prog-rock crap I've ever heard, but some of it oddly sounds great, and it has its charm in that if, when you'd first started writing "deep" poetry in the eighth grade, you'd also been an enormously talented multi-obscure-instrumentalist, you might've made something just like it. Give it a miss unless it's cheap. If you're into the truly weird, the two Eugene Chadbourne collaborations are worth a listen, but why not just get a Chadbourne album? (There's someone I'd like to see go head-to-head with Robyn!) What's the proper legal method for entering your clothes? ____________________ Things for Robyn to Do in His Downtime Dept: The suggestion of the "spoken-word" compilation reminded me of an idea from way back-- wouldn't it be cool if Robyn provided the voice for a character in an animated film? Think of how Robyn (oops, ROBIN) William's off-the-cuff improvs were literally depicted in "Aladdin", and imagine what might emerge from OUR Robyn's meandering stream of consciousness. For adults only, no doubt, but an intriguing possibility. I thought of this back in film school (yes, film school; shut up!) when I was prepping an animated interpretation of "Furry Green Atom Bowl" inna-Bill Plymptom-stylee. Alas, the project never saw the light of day. But the legend lives on! Rex ------------------------------ From: BLATZMAN@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:27:43 -0500 Subject: Autumn Sea First off, please Brett, cool your bad vibe jets and plant a backbone for later harvest... Greetings fellow merchants of positive vibrations, Has anyone ever figured out what Robyn is saying in Autumn Sea? I have some of it down, but then the last "story" section is a bit fuzzy. What did the wife put on? What's swelling up? Rock on, merchants Dave Please direct all negative energy to me. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 01:12:57 -0600 From: JH3 Subject: Re: Autumn Sea Dave writes: >Has anyone ever figured out what Robyn is saying in Autumn Sea? I have some >of it down, but then the last "story" section is a bit fuzzy. >What did the wife put on? What's swelling up? His wife put on a moustache that he found in Siberia (topping place! Went there once)... One of the Russkies had it... She put it on, then left him for another woman. There was nothing left, not even a woman, just the fireplace and his ever swelling... chins. >Please direct all negative energy to me. Parcel-Post or UPS? And should we also include frozen bits of flesh? --John H. A pretty quick response, for me anyway...I guess it was one of those nights... October... ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 9:37:13 EST Subject: Autumn Sea >Reply-To: JH3 > >Dave writes: > >>Has anyone ever figured out what Robyn is saying in Autumn Sea? I have some >>of it down, but then the last "story" section is a bit fuzzy. >>What did the wife put on? What's swelling up? > >His wife put on a mustache that he found in Siberia (topping place! Went >there once)... One of the Russkies had it... She put it on, then left him >for another woman. There was nothing left, not even a woman, just the >fireplace and his ever swelling... chins. > >>Please direct all negative energy to me. > >Parcel-Post or UPS? And should we also include frozen bits of flesh? > >--John H. > >A pretty quick response, for me anyway...I guess it was one of those >nights... October... My apologies if this snippet is already more accurately transcribed in the Feg archives. - R.O. ---- "No, they use them for clothespegs, you know", continued Fanshawe, somewhat more ?????. "Really?", said Butterworth, who was feeling rather left out of the conversation. "Oh yes, that's right you know. They'd pick them up in Siberia and bring them over." "Siberia!", interjected the fellow whose name I still can't remember. "Topping place! Went there once. Found an (TWO SYLLABLES HERE) mustache -- one of the Ruskies had it. (LAUGHS) Took it home, don't you know, showed the little lady. She put it on. Left me for another woman. Hmmm. Rotten things, lefts -- and women." He was left alone. There was no-one there, not even a woman, just the fireplace and his ever-swelling chins. As the brandy began taking full effect, Fanshawe (or was it Butterworth, or was it the other guy whose name I can't remember) found himself slowly turning into some sort of helpless, diseased houseplant as he watched his future and his past grudgingly become interchangeable, like a highway (ONE MYSTERY SYLLABLE HERE) surrounding a drunken man that begins to spin. He looked up above him. Even the angels were asleep. It was one of those nights. (SIGH) October. ----- PS: Re Susan's recent posting on charming English place names -- Overbury's rather nice, don't you think? -- ROSS OVERBURY email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 09:32:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Autumn Sea & Betty > Has anyone ever figured out what Robyn is saying in Autumn Sea? I have > some > of it down, but then the last "story" section is a bit fuzzy. man, somebody read MY mind...I was listening to Have A Heart Betty (original version, from the yellow-backed Can Of Bees album) on my way home last night and wondering if anyone if any of you had figured THAT one out ('bout the only part I know is "..a guy called Tom...") And then I thought of Autumn Sea, and that was going to be my big question today. Thanks to whoever it was who posted the transcription of the Autumn Sea verbage (one of my absolute favorite Hitchcock tunes, by the way). Now can anyone decipher the talking in Have A Heart, Betty? Russ "I'd Rather Die Than Get An Honest Job" Reynolds ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 12:24:19 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) Subject: flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) robyn's voice would be awesome in an animated feature. "exactly like a crocodilie in search of a mirage across the undulating sands." or maybe a heghog. i think it's high time terry gilliam did some animation with a little help from robyn. we know he can do numerous voices. how about an animated compilation of videos for all of those bizzarre tunes that couldn't possibly be done justice any other way. hell, robyn can do the animation! ken "chinese boys wearing leather stick together in bad weather" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 08:27:44 -0900 (AKST) From: Brett Cooper Subject: Re: Autumn Sea Look at everyone else who's calling the kettle black! Brett On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 BLATZMAN@aol.com wrote: > First off, please Brett, cool your bad vibe jets and plant a backbone for > later harvest... > > Greetings fellow merchants of positive vibrations, > > Has anyone ever figured out what Robyn is saying in Autumn Sea? I have some > of it down, but then the last "story" section is a bit fuzzy. > > What did the wife put on? What's swelling up? > > Rock on, merchants > > Dave > > Please direct all negative energy to me. > ********************************************************* * "A wise man once said that a person trying to know * * something about everything will eventually know * * everything about nothing; and that a person trying to * * know everything about one thing will eventually know * * nothing about everything." * * -Harrison Blackwood, * * "War Of The Worlds" * *The official address of: * *BC Radio, Inc. * *cooperb@chs.mat-su.k12.ak.us * ********************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 12:26:26 -0700 (MST) From: Horse Badorties and the Love Chorus Subject: Re: Autumn Sea On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Ross Overbury wrote: > "No, they use them for clothespegs, you know", continued Fanshawe, > somewhat more ?????. > ^^^^^ drolly? perhaps? zach ************************ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= * A 17-year old French girl, named only as Isabelle, was rushed to the hospital when she started hallucinating. A brain scan showed a .22-caliber rifle bullet in her brain. Her mother recalled that when the girl was 15 months old, she came into the house with blodd spurting from her head. She had called a doctor, who simply applied a bandage. -fortean times #84 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:03:52 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Mandel Subject: Re: Autumn Sea On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, JH3 wrote: > His wife put on a moustache that he found in Siberia (topping place! Went > there once)... One of the Russkies had it... She put it on, then left him > for another woman. There was nothing left, not even a woman, just the > fireplace and his ever swelling... chins. Is this verbatim? I could swear there's other bits in there. Something like "Funny things, lefts. And women. He was left alone..." Aaron ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I'M ONLY AS LARGE AS AN ANT AND I'M HIDING INSIDE YOUR CAR --cryptic placemat phrase, Madison, WI, 1986 (reported by Jeffrey Norman) ------------------------------ From: MSANDONATO@kpmg.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 14:57:06 EST Subject: Babysitting a new generation comp. To Russ Reynolds Yesterday you inquired about the "Babysitting a New Generation" compilation. The RH song on it is "Beautiful Girl" from Eye. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:01:30 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, ostrander wrote: > robyn's voice would be awesome in an animated feature. "exactly > like a crocodilie in search of a mirage across the undulating sands." or > maybe a heghog. "Robyn Hedgehog." Yep. Tracy "luminous toast" Copeland ------------------------------ Date: 22 Feb 96 15:32:53 EST From: Positive Vibrations <101356.2516@compuserve.com> Subject: Haylp! Oh, haylp! I'm in the middle of updating _SoftCore_ - and the various thingummies that have spun off it - and need answers to the following; if anyone knows _please_ contact me. 1) Who are the musicians playing uncredited on the _Animals_ version of 'Arms Of Love'? They're uncredited but I'm sure someone's ferretted this out. 2) Who _actually_ wrote 'Jet Boy Jet Girl' - I know the names credited are fakes, but they're not any of Robyn's usual aliases, so I'm not sure whether to believe he actually wrote it, especially given its content. 3) Is 'Wadahumart' a cover - I'm _sure_ I've heard it before, but it's not listed anywhere, at least under that name? 4) When was 'As Lemons Chop' recorded? 5) Who originally wrote 'The Gallant Poacher'? 6) Who sings vocals on 'Sad Sweet Smile'? Yours Aidan Oh, and Bayard - I will get around to updating the chronology _soon_ but as some of you know my life has been a bit hectic lately. Oh (II) - Yeah, yeah, it's coming out. It's only three months late, for hell's sake, stop sending me letters every week. _Screaming Secrets_ once went two years between issues! ------------------------------ From: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:47:33 -0500 (EST) CC: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: Content of the list As the polergiest said to the TV--Im Baaaaaccckkkk. Fresh from vacaqtion and reading thru my messages, I see we've entered the twilight zone of list self-consiousness-- in short , why do we exist? And needless to say , we all have different expectatation, needs and reasons for the above. My 3 sents, thou i dont expect to be in the majoerity(Im never in the majorirty) is that Robyn Hitchcocks music is unusual, intelligent, funny ,poignent, and ambivilent enough to collect a bunch of rather unusual, intelligent, funny, poignent and ambivilent(did I mention narcissistic?) fans. In short, the moths drawn to the flame of feg put ------------------------------ From: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 16:08:52 -0500 (EST) CC: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: Contents of the flame Sorry about being cut off mid thought. Another librarian, fat, stupid and rude, decided to send my message when I stepped away for a mere second to help a patron. GGGRRRRR--I want back to the tropics. NOW. Anyway, my point, before being swept away by an imbalance of choleric humor, is that--I like the fact that we talk about more than just Robyn. Im glad that you fegs out there seem to resemble a pretty interesting group of people. I like finding out what others are up to, especially others with a certifiably similar sensibility. Susan--I want to get drunk with you--and Renee and Beth and Karen too. Terry, if I got drunk with you we'd probobly find 30 things to disagree on, but nevertheless, Id like to think we would enjoy each others disagreeableness. As for Beaker and Jay and , oh--whats the hell his name, and Bradley and Russ and my fellow Cap, Mark--I like that youre people in your own right, not just jibbering--isnt Robyn great-- fans with no identity of your own. And oh- now that the tela bill went thru--, I guess i should have said, fuckin identity of your own. Obsenity is tedious when indulged in for ethical reasons, but we all have to do our little bit to keep big brother at bay. "Sand in my shoes, sand from Havana Taking me back...." Gershwin or Arlen or one of those guys. Kay the back at work, Work,WORKLibrarian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:10:56 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Autumn Sea & Betty > man, somebody read MY mind...I was listening to Have A Heart Betty (original > version, from the yellow-backed Can Of Bees album) on my way home last night > and wondering if anyone if any of you had figured THAT one out ('bout the > only part I know is "..a guy called Tom...") And then I thought of Autumn > Sea, and that was going to be my big question today. > > Now can anyone decipher the talking in Have A Heart, Betty? For us newcomers, is this the alternate [non doo-wop] version on the Invisible Hits re-ish? If it is, I'll try to figure it out. Was already going to try to figure out the backing vocals to "WHen I Was a Kid" [IH original version] Terry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:19:21 -0500 From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Subject: Re: Feg Digest Vol 4 Num 39 "If Conan Doyle, Shakespeare, and Edgar Allen Poe were alive today they'd surely have some Roland in their record collections. Unfortunately they're dead. What's your excuse?" Bucketfull of Brains, Paul Roland is a remarkably original artist, currently living in the wilds of Cheltenham, England He's a great songwriter as well as an extremely inventive lyricist, as lyricists go, full of literary imagery. The last record he put out, "Sarabande" features Nick Soloman of the Bevis Frond and is backed by fellow Cheltenham music-folk, Reverb. Well worth a hundred listens, very "medevial" and at the same time, sounding like nothing else. Though writers have said it's not his best, I'd have to disagree. He's never played with Dexy's Midnight Runners-to his credit-and has been solo for as long as he's been writing. Aside from that, "Madonna Of The Wasps" b/w "Ruling Class" is cat # AM-1409, cassette single TS-1409. And "Ruling Class" is a damn great track. Carl ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:20:46 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: flesh cartoons (DINSDALE!) > > > robyn's voice would be awesome in an animated feature. "exactly > > like a crocodilie in search of a mirage across the undulating sands." or > > maybe a heghog. > > "Robyn Hedgehog." Yep. Requested but never drawn Terry ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 17:43:06 CST From: Truman Peyote Subject: miscellaneous thingummies First off- Yay! Kay's back! Though I'm sure she was sorry to leave the islands :). Second off- Yes, a Robyn drawn and voiced cartoon would be lovely. Might be a reason to get up on Saturday mornings :). And finally- Say, I've never figured out those mumbled parts in "I'm Not Fireproof" either. Anyone else deciphered it? "Autumn Sea" neither, which is why I was grateful to those who took the time to type them out. And by the way Brett, maybe you should cool it a little bit- I mean, Dave Blatzmann's asking about the verbiage in "Autumn Sea" WAS slightly more relevant than your charming post about internet robots :). I know you meant well, but it's really hard to blame people for thinking you were perpetuating a hoax on all of us or (what they more likely believed) a very good joke. So don't come the acid drop. Just try posting about Robyn Hitchcock occasionally :). A question I have- have Robyn's short stories ever been collected and published? If so, WHERE CAN I GET THEM? And if anyone has any recordings of him reading them out loud, I would love to get my feelthy little hands on em. Susan "And now the magic words........JULIE ANDREWS!" :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:46:28 -0900 (AKST) From: Brett Cooper Subject: Submitted For Your Approval Fegs, Look, I'm sorry if a few of the comments that I have made regarding the posting of and the subsequent responses to the Internet Cleanup have upset some of you. I want you all to know that I have buried any hatchet and have done away with any feelings that I may have been harboring over the issue. I will say it again: I know that it was off-topic, however, I thought that with the tone of how this notice was written and considering where it came from made the Internet Cleanup official and therefore made it permissible to post on the mailing list. Please accept my apology. However, I will think twice before posting something that may be important to all of us. Brett ********************************************************* * "A wise man once said that a person trying to know * * something about everything will eventually know * * everything about nothing; and that a person trying to * * know everything about one thing will eventually know * * nothing about everything." * * -Harrison Blackwood, * * "War Of The Worlds" * *The official address of: * *BC Radio, Inc. * *cooperb@chs.mat-su.k12.ak.us * ********************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:04:56 -0500 From: spaced heater Subject: Re: Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) speaking of camper van beethoven, does anyone know what's up with an album called _the sound of music_ by fsk? apparently produced by david lowrey ("has anybody seen sam lowrey?"). is this a real bavarian band? or a spoof created from the twisted mind of david? the way it sounds, either is possible. there's enough camper van guitarwork to make me think the latter, but then they pull off something that could have only been created by germans. wassup wi'dat? +w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 15:30:43 -0900 (AKST) From: Brett Cooper Subject: Robyn Quotations I was at my local bookstore today and I saw a new book that has several Robyn Hitchcock quotations in it. It's called, "Rock And Roll's Greatest Quotes". I can only remember that one of the quotes dealt with how Robyn and the Soft Boys thought of naming themselves "Queers For Jesus", and something having to do with Jews. Another quote, I can remember: "I can sing, but not very well." Anyhow, thought you all might like to know. Brett ------------------------------ From: Hedblade@aol.com Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:49:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Flesh Cartoons (+CVB notes) Here's the deal on FSK. Not only did David Lowery produce the album "The Sound Of Music" he's also a full blown member of the band. Dave doesn't do any singing (well, on one track)- he just plays guitar. Yes, they are a Bavarian rock band from Germany, but fans of Camper should dig them. In Dave's words "FSK is closer to Camper Van Beethoven then Camper Van Beethoven were." The record is on Flying Fish Records and was released last year. However, Flying Fish was just bought by Rounder and getting a hold of this one might be sticky. Jump on it now if you're interested- some distributers might still have it, so your local record shop might still be able to get it. Hope those of you who find it dig it!!! Sincerely, Hedblade ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Reaction One thing I noticed lately.. I'm not naming names since I didn't bother keepign track of who's doign this, I'd just politely like it to stop. So far, I've seen responses like this to posts: [Just an example] [] >Robyn thought that they should have released "Where are the Prawns?" >instead of "I Wanna Destroy" you as a single Well, since the CDA, it's no longer "Robyn thought that they should have f**king released 'Where are the Prawns?'" [] [End example, only the people around here tend not to censor themselves..] Well, if I'd like to not see this again. If I'm just imagining this, it *will* go away. If not, well.... There's no rules on language here, to my knowledge, but still, it reflects poorly on the list if we just go tossing profanities around for the sake of it or for the sake of bringing up the CDA. Thanks. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 16:36:48 +0700 From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Balloon Man >Also, Brett & Renee: I don't quite believe that Balloon Man is a "Rover"; >he seems a little too autonomous. Plus, he's filled with chunky goodness, >whilst the Rovers were empty inside so as to suck people inside of them >when necessary. However, the parallel is interesting, and, Brett, if you >talk to the man, let us know if it holds any water (seems like it could). I agree. The rovers - for those who have never seen the amazing 60s series "The Prisoner", these were large balloons that acted as automated guards to keep no. 6 (Patrick McGoohan) from escaping from the Village. Make sense now? No? You got the idea. Surreal and wonderful, almost Hitchcock, Robyn, meets Hitchcock, Alfred on the set of a spy movie - were definitely more malevolent than Balloon man. Balloon man (as I've probably said before), especially with the NY cityscape of the lyrics, always reminds me of the movie Ghostbusters, and its "Staypuft Marshmallow Man". James (who's in training for the "parenthetical clause of the year" awards) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:55:59 -0500 (EST) From: ! Subject: Re: Haylp! Oh, haylp! On 22 Feb 1996, Positive Vibrations wrote: > 2) Who _actually_ wrote 'Jet Boy Jet Girl' - I know the names credited are > fakes, but they're not any of Robyn's usual aliases, so I'm not sure whether to > believe he actually wrote it, especially given its content. This is *definitely* a cover, since I know the song, and I've never heard Robyn do it. Only problem is, I can't remember who just at the moment...thought it was the NY Dolls, but that was just "Jet Boy." Then I thought 20/20, but that was my head mixing "Nuclear Boy" and "Jet Lag." pretty sure it was some early punk band, though...(i know 20/20 were not early punk...) ...i also think someone more famous than Robyn may have recently recorded a cover of this tune. ...this is gonna drive me NUTS... ...and i STILL haven't figured out how Nicola Hitchcock reminds me of... grr.... doug ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 23:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: ! Subject: Re: Contents of the flame On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US vouchsafed: > to think we would enjoy each others disagreeableness. As > for Beaker and Jay and , oh--whats the hell his name, and ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ y'know, Kay, if i were just a *tad* more cynical than i am, i would think that was a brilliant attempt to avoid offending anybody by allowing a great many list members to think that they each were "whats the hell his name".... ...of course, if i were a *tad* more cynical than i am, i would probably implode into a black hole or something, so no fear on that score... > Kay the back at work, Work,WORKLibrarian doug (happy to get drunk with fegs any ol' time) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:25:55 -0900 (AKST) From: Brett Cooper Subject: Re: Balloon Man I see what you are saying. I guess what caught my attention was the fact that bands like Pink Floyd and Iron Maiden have done songs and videos about "The Prisoner", or songs that were "Prisoner" inspired. Knowing how Robyn was, it almost made perfect sense that he would tip his hat to such an enigmatic and groundbreaking series . Brett > > Balloon man (as I've probably said before), especially with the NY > cityscape of the lyrics, always reminds me of the movie Ghostbusters, and > its "Staypuft Marshmallow Man". > > James (who's in training for the "parenthetical clause of the year" awards) > > ********************************************************* * "A wise man once said that a person trying to know * * something about everything will eventually know * * everything about nothing; and that a person trying to * * know everything about one thing will eventually know * * nothing about everything." * * -Harrison Blackwood, * * "War Of The Worlds" * *The official address of: * *BC Radio, Inc. * *cooperb@chs.mat-su.k12.ak.us * ********************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:27:22 EST Subject: Balloon Man, Vibrating, Flesh Cartoons Is Balloon Man a reference to "The Prisoner" ? I've always thought that Balloon Man was about masturbation. Yes, the analysis falls apart when they all start "jumping off the Empire State", but he also wishes he could ride a horse, doesn't he? There's a few throwaway lines in there just to get it over with, IMHO. I think Vibrating, which follows Balloon Man, is also about masturbation. ... and Flesh Cartoons -- pornography, of course. Terry and I have already butted heads over this one, with Terry citing some devastating evidence from a RH interview, but d*rn it (that for you, Terry!), I still remain unconvinced. Maybe I've listened to too much Jim Morrison. Think sex, death and Fish, and you're probably not far off track. -- Ross Overbury - Orb's surveyoR email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ From: "Brian Huddell" Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:31:33 +0000 Subject: Re: Reaction > it reflects poorly on the list if we just go tossing profanities > around for the sake of it or for the sake of bringing up the CDA. No. No it does not. And it wouldn't matter if it did. But discussions of what "reflects poorly on the list," reflect rather darned hummer-THUMPING poorly on the list if you ask me. Yecchh. --brian ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Feb 96 23:02 PST From: upstart@mindlink.bc.ca (Renee Lynn) Subject: Re: Balloon Man, Vibrating, Flesh Cartoons >I've always thought that Balloon Man was about masturbation. Yes, the >analysis falls apart when they all start "jumping off the Empire State", >but he also wishes he could ride a horse, doesn't he? There's a few >throwaway lines in there just to get it over with, IMHO. Yeah, I thought it was about that before too, but I was afraid to say in case I was alone. (so to speak) RLT ------------------------------ From: "Brian Huddell" Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 01:55:05 +0000 Subject: Reaction reaction redux At the risk of trying Woj's patience, and with a promise to return to lurk mode immediately upon finishing, I'd like to quickly explain why the recent call for a cessation of "profanities" on this list bugged me so much: One member of a community to which I belong (fegmaniax) asks that certain words no longer be used within the community. The words could be "shoelace" or "pork-rind" or "fuck" or "Jesus" (actually, all but one of these gives me the willies). It doesn't matter. My immediate inclination is to respect that request, not because I believe the request contains any intrinsic moral (or other) authority, but because I'm a nice guy and I want everyone at the party to have a good time. But then I'm told that a failure to conform to this person's standard will "reflect poorly" upon the community. And I'm left to wonder a couple of things: 1) who exactly is out there passing judgement on our "reflection"? Our parents? Somebody's god? Robyn? and 2) why does the fact that these particular words give this guy the willies carry so much weight? If anyone out there has any words that they would prefer not to read in their feg-mail I will cheerfully omit them wherever possible, resorting to asterisks when no suitable substitute can be found (odd business, those asterisks; seems to suggest that it's the shape of the letters themselves that offends, not the word or idea). But any suggestion that this individual's standard is somehow privileged above my own, or that of my fellow gutter-mouths, will be met with bile (albeit silent, private bile, because I don't want Woj to kick me off the list). In that spirit, I would like to request that the phrase "the willies" no longer be used, because it gives me...you know...the creeps. --brian ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 03:57:54 -0500 From: Ken W Subject: hi! Hi all, I'm Ken. I was on this list a long time ago but have been unsubscribed for a long time. I won't waste spave talking about myself, as if you're really interested, you can check out my homepage in my sig. Unfortuanately, I only have two Hitchcock albums, Fegmania and Globe of Frogs, both of which I absolutely love. I do need to get more, so any suggestions would be welcome. I've had the pleasure of seeing Robyn twice, once with the Egyptians at The Ritz in NYC in May of 1993, and the second time solo acoustic last year at Amherst College, MA, with Jill Sobule! Needless to say both times he was awesome. At the Ritz, they closed with a hillareous cover of Everybody's Kung Fu Fighting. Anyway, nice to be back.... Ken ps: if Steve from Tower, Paramus,is on this list, email me! __________________________________________________________________________ hazmat@shore.net | "You'd better be prepared for the jump http://www.shore.net/~hazmat | into hyperspace. It's unpleasantly Shore.Net PC Tech Guy | like being drunk." _____________________________ | "What's so unpleasant about being drunk?" http://www.shore.net/ | "You ask a glass of water." ______________________________|___________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:04:46 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Live Fegmaniax For some reason, I feel like compiling a Fegmania variant, using only live versions of the songs. E-mail me with any reactions. Thank you Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:11:30 -0600 (CST) From: VERMIN-IN-TRAINING Subject: Re: Contents of the flame >for Beaker and Jay and , oh--whats the hell his name, and >Bradley and Russ and my fellow Cap, Mark--I like that youre >people in your own right, not just jibbering--isnt Robyn great-- >fans with no identity of your own. > jibber jibber jibber jibber....oh, sorry, but it was to the tune of Vibrating....honest.... ...woj, the deutsche CVB band is damn fine, well worth the price of an import... ...and if anyone is in Houston on March 9 we're having a party to celebrate the 69th day of the year, let me know and I'll give you directions... ...and fuckin' a 'bout all the profidity on this list...lets keep 50's instrumentals off list so we don't look uncouth.... jibber jibber jibber jibber jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "All my friends do the model girl thing hist1a@jetson.uh.edu So I found me one University of Houston Now she wears my nose ring" --Lloyd Cole "Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip" "There's liquor on my breath --Robyn Hitchcock And you on my mind" --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 00:40:17 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Autumn Sea & Betty On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Russ Reynolds wrote: > Now can anyone decipher the talking in Have A Heart, Betty? Try: Flamed of our jungle conquests And arid air Now Cupid's vision-centered bow No longer doth our heart intrude But many mate for light deceives My hungry buck My engine platter Ghostly butler long-forsaken Deadpan, warped and hardly vacant Walks the hearty tissue home As darkling grow the slight of air A guy called Tom with small withered fingers Crawled over the top Of the mountain Rolls down the other side That's what's in my lyrics file, anyway. Mike DeLong came up with about half of this, but we heard *very* different things at some points; if anyone has any suggestions, let me know and I'll incorporate them before I send this off to Capuchin for the web page. Tracy "more songs about Betty and toast" "please" Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 00:25:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Re: Autumn Sea & Betty On Thu, 22 Feb 1996, Russ Reynolds wrote: > Now can anyone decipher the talking in Have A Heart, Betty? rz ** ------------------------------ From: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:54:15 -0500 (EST) CC: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Subject: In-Store, and the power of appearences. Years ago, Globe of Frogs era, Robyn graced the Philly Tower records with his presence. Needless to say, I attended. He sang about 4songs, with Andy and Morris singing back-up vocals. The wierd thing was that about 3 minutes Robyn would jerk his head around, as if almost involuntarily and stare in what seemed to be my direction for a quite firey second. This seemed odd. Not the usuall Robyn odd, but odd in terms of Im not THAT outstanding a beauty.And, being an inhibited preppie had chosen to dress for the occassion in baggy kakis, baggy madress shirt, and oversized jean jacket. Also-- staight slightly dirty hair , and a paucity of makeup. Now--if Id been brazen enough to do the short skirt, heelsand tight top routine, these stares( I do have diprprtianatly long legs and arms, not to mention I used to model<<--did I mention that? Uphs...) would not have seemed odd, but flatterring. This, however, was before the grunge look when dirty hair had its heyday. Something was amiss. I looked to my left, not much there. I looked to my right and saw a vision from---well, perhaps heaven for Robyn, but more like what an inhibited prep like me would call a flesh catoon. For there was an Amazon (perhaps tranvestite, she towered over me and Im tall), in full leathers, exept for where the boobs were popping out, or the garter belt was, or the slightly torn stockings, or where the thong didnt quite cover. I want to say she was brandishing a whip, but that might just be false memory syndrome. Anyway, our hero was entranced--have I mentioned the waste leanght hank of auborn locks(Suzzanne--see, he likes redheads))--and I was entranced by the voyeristic buzz of the whole thing. Watching him watching her watching him was quite something. More and more his head jerked around. The poor guy obviously could not help himself, knew this wasnt the right way to conduct an in store appearrence, kept trying to get back on proper track, and kept loosing it. It was delicious to watch. But dont ask me what he sung--I dont remember. Im afraid Im abit all too interested in such shameless gossip. Ive also noticed that some of you seem to be more aware of the actuall personnal details of the great squids adventures d'amour than am I. I was a psych major in college. I cant help it, I love to dish the dirt. So e-mail me with the juicy bits if your self-consious about subjecting the more serious, Im only in it for the trivia fegs, or send it to the list if you believe such stuff is IMPORTANT. Its mid-winter, We're all bored. Lets have fun. Please. I cant afford another ticket to the tropics. Revoltingly nosely yours Kay the reading-Emotional Intelligence, its a great booh, highly reccommended Cap. ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 1996 12:17:55 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Happy Cap on fegtstuff... Subject: Time:10:02 AM OFFICE MEMO Happy Cap on fegtstuff... Date:2/23/96 Who died and elected me grand opinioner of Fegmaniax? Nobody that I know of, but here's a bunch. Take with a pillar of salt. Some observations and opinions follow, but, as usual, it's mostly babble- so delete this message now or don't say I didn't warn you... Balloon Masters: I think all of Robyn's songs could be about masturbation, sex, mother, or all three. Kay, did you take any Freudian psych classes? Am I in trouble here? Autum Sea & Fireproof Betty: I didn't have a clue. I appreciate the informative translations. Please keep them coming. Profanity: I believe in profanity. I don't use it often, but it helps one blow off steam, express extreme feelings for something, and piss off the censors. Three really important and lofty goals in my book. I don't believe in adhering to stupid laws (fyi- if a law is shown to be stupid in court, the law may be stricken from the books and the accused unpunished). That said, I think it's not productive when addressing others directly with it (you coffee-nosed malodorous shoelaces! ;-) ). Smileys: It is hard for me to use them, because I think most of what I say is witty and it's okay for these little cleveritudes to occasionally sail over the heads of others (okay, hit them in the knee and fall on the floor and flop around until somebody steps on them with a track shoe). I notice that some fegheads don't have noses on their smileys. Bayard's last one to me had grown one, though. Scolding: As much as I really like everybody on this list, I am more offended by scolding than any invective that I have seen on this list. With exceptions, I prefer a one-off message that is off-subject to five telling everyone that one was out of line. The flambe process causes us, after we are picked on, to point out when others are out of line- and the never ending cycle of violence continues. Also, if you think I'm outa' line, please tell me, not every person and newsgroup in the universe- maybe we can have a private debate with the list doctor (sorry if you don't want to ref, Woj). Other bands: I love to hear everybody's other interests that in some way may be related to Robyn Hitchcock. I am really interested when a thread can dangle between something like Ministry or Kraftwerk or King Crimson or SRL or small aquatic amebic life form and RH, even when there is no obvious link. I also like to hear about list members' bands and musical efforts. Glass Flesh: I really like the pair of cassettes that the famous Bayard Catron put together. I think everybody needs to hear the songs through the mouths of fans. It was an incredible honor to share bits of chromium dioxide with y'all. I think my favorite bits on there weren't even those that I contributed, and I am golly gosh darned proud to goodness gracious sakey-wakeys of what I did. Gloss Fresh: Terry, please keep us informed. I am anxious to hear what other nutcases are out there 'sides me. More some other time. Gotta go, -Mark Gloster ps. Yep, I make up words all the time. pps. Bayard, my spell checker wants me to change your name to Beard Carton- is this okay, and do they really come in cartons? ppps. Bayard, your j-cards should get done this weekend. pppps. Thomas, you out there? I really would like to give you some blank DAT's. ppppps. In case you were wondering, I have had some production delays, but there is a silver lining. All 16 tracks for my CD are finished recording. I need to do a lot of remixing now. FYI- there are acoustic and electric versions for two of my tunes. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:57:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" Subject: A list of words no longer to be used on Fegmaniax argillaceous boanthropy catopromancy dzo exsufflate formication gomphiasis helminthophobia inspissate jactitation kombinationsfahigkeit layboy madefy neanilagnia olisbos periclitation quab randle sialagogic tyg uvid verbigeration whistersnefet xeronisus zenzizenzizenzic --Jeff Jeffrey Norman "The more you drive, University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee the less intelligent you are." Dept. of English & Comp. Lit. e-mail: jenor@csd.uwm.edu --Miller, _Repo Man_ PS: None of these words is made up. Definitions supplied upon request. Enjoy! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:13:31 -0600 (CST) From: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" Subject: Re: Happy Cap on fegtstuff... On or about 23 Feb 1996, Mark Gloster responded to a thread already in progress thusly: > laws (fyi- if a law is shown to be stupid in court, the law may be stricken > from the books and the accused unpunished). S: "If you're not an ungood boy, I'll have to unpunish you..." M: "I've been very, very unbad... Unpunish me, unpunish me!" etc. Unwittingly, --Jeff Jeffrey Norman "Solipsism is its own reward" University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of English & Comp. Lit. --Crow T. Robot e-mail: jenor@csd.uwm.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:15:21 CST From: Truman Peyote Subject: the naughty bits Hear hear! Tell me all about the gossip. Kay isn't the only one who wants to know. But alas, we might be the only two. I can just see it now, all the serious types getting really, really annoyed. :) I still want to know, though. I'm nosy. Oh and by the way, I find the word "prawns" really offensive. I would like to ask that no one on the list ever use it again. It makes us all look like horrible yobbos. Susan well yes, I am a redhead, but I don't own any bondage gear :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:27:43 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Happy Cap on fegtstuff... > Gloss Fresh: > Terry, please keep us informed. I am anxious to hear what other nutcases are > out there 'sides me. Well, as received.. Mark Gloster and Big Red Rubber Shark The Carolinas The Transparancies Other Days There Goes Bill and The Franklins/Jendolari/Vervian [Soon as I figure out what band I'm in and record something] Terry ------------------------------ Date: 23 Feb 96 17:34:57 EST From: Aidan <101356.2516@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Haylp! Oh, haylp! [Jet Boy Jet Girl] > I'm pretty sure it was Captain Sensible, but have no proof. A pretty plausible answer someone sent me is that is was originally a Softies song, which was covered by the Sensible/Hitchcock band of the early 80s, and the confusion seems to have arisen from the confusion of "Softies" and "Soft Boys". Because the Softies never actually released it, it doesn't appear in MusicMaster, hence the confusion over the credits. If anyone knows differently, please get in touch... I'm still looking for answers to the others, though, particularly who wrote 'Wadahumart'. Aidan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:57:38 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Roger Jackson/Soft Boys I'm looking to start a collection of (a) Live Egyptians material with Roger Jackson and (b) Unreleased Soft Boys or (c) Soft Boys versions of songs released as non-Soft Boys songs [Like the SB's version of "Give me a Spanner, Ralph", only I've already got that] Thanks Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 15:56:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: Haylp! Oh, haylp! I can remember playing a song in college radio called Jet Boy Jet Girl, which was basically an English language version of Plastic Bertrand's "Ca Plane Por Moi". Don't remember who it was, don't know which came first, don't know if the english words correspond to the french words, don't even know if this is the same song you're talking about (seems unlikely, but then so does "Kung Fu Fighting"). However, if this IS what you're talking about I could probably get the info you're looking for [what was the question again?] with a small amount of sleuthing. Lemme know. -Russ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:10:53 -0500 From: spaced heater Subject: miscellaneous fegs, a couple unrelated comments, none of which merit an individual message: 1) i picked up the fsk album months ago and finally got around to listening to it last week; hence my questions. 2) masturbation seems like the obvious topic for "vibrating" because of the name...but if you ignore the chorus, it's a plausible possibility as well. not sure about "balloon man" though. 3) i thought i once scribbled down my attempt to decipher the spoken bits on betty. no luck finding them (though i did dredge up susan even's and my attempts for "vyrna knowl"). i'll keep looking for the "have a heart..." scribblings. 4) fegmaniax is an unmoderated forum for discussion about robyn hitchcock. the unmoderated means you can use whatever words you want, provided the point of your post is, at worst, tangentially related to robyn. if you choose to use profanity, that's perfectly okay by me, but keep in mind that it may reflect badly on others' perceptions of you - just like in face-to-face communication. 5) i would appreciate it if people would refrain from attempting to police the list. that's my job. 'nuff said. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest.