Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 28 Send posts to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- Clickot! Re: RH mural studio chatter? Golden Prince a robyn chronology Re: studio chatter? Surfer Ghost alcohol references Me too Re: alcohol references Re: alcohol references ------------------------------ From: RxBroome@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 02:54:18 -0500 Subject: Clickot! Hello... I'm obviously new here. Quickly... clickot. What does this mean? Not only is it in the title of the song on "Eye", but, unless I miss my guess, it's also in the weird studio chatter snippet that closes the CD of "Underwater Moonlight". Any insight? As to the ongoing debate as to the sexiness of Robyn... perhaps it's my basic lack of understanding of the male psyche-- and I am male-- but I don't see how the idea of "Robyn-as-sex-symbol" could possibly be threatening. To me, Robyn's intense energy was always somewhat encouraging... but I discovered Robyn as an undateable high school geek in rural West Virginia, a lifetime or two ago. Surrounded by male role-models that had nothing to do with me, I'd discovered someone who, in an archly un-self-conscious way, was neither Led-Zep macho, overtly arty, nor U2-preachy-- and who, not insignificantly, seemed as capable as me of staring endlessly at bizarre crustaceans and nudibranchs undulating in aquariums. I couldn't quite work out why the hell anyone other than myself would wanna hear this... but this guy had a record deal, for God's sake! The crux of all this "enough about me" rubbish is that, to me, Robyn (and he's not he only one, of course) was a sort of model of how to be male without buying into the posturing that went with it (artistically, at least)... someone thoroughly unafraid to be bizarre, but also not being bizarre for the sake of being confrontational or off-putting-- the obsession with which was the main reason why, then and now, reactionary subcultures like punk and Goth didn't seem (to me) any more salient than the "mainstream" against which they supposedly rebelled. While too many people were trying to smash existing structures, Robyn and people like him (Kristin Hersh comes to mind) were already collecting the more interesting bits of debris and carving them into intricate little trilobite sculptures. And I though, hell yeah! That's where I want to be! Perhaps it's not "sexy" in and of itself, but if I couldn't find a way to project "sexiness" by letting myself follow and express my own interests, in creative OR conversational ways, what was the point? Attract people to a person I knew myself not to be? No thanks, guv'nor! So that's my take on it, anyhow. I'm Rex, by the way; the current address is in Los Angeles, not the Appalachians. I've only been on the list for a few days, and although it's probably old news to you all-- what exactly IS happening with Robyn's next record? As far as I can tell, it's been written for years... when does it get committed to tape, and with whom? Talk to you soon. Promise to lay off the autobiographical claptrap. RxBroome@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 22:10:49 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: RH mural On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Tom Clark wrote: > >I'm drawing a Robyn Hitchcock-inspired mural on my bedroom wall, and I'm > >looking for ideas. I need suggestions that are relatively easy to draw > >since I'm not that talented. So far I have an "Eye", a "Man with the > >Lightbulb Head", a fish, and a "Madonna of the Wasps". Any other ideas? > > > >Sarah Clopton Hmm...maybe an Acid Bird [I draw it as a bird outline composed of etched-in lines, rather like a piece of glass etched into the shape of a bird], a cemetary [with, of course, Bones in the Ground], a forest scene, a la Autumn is Your Last Chance, a Beetle Train with Antlers, an Iron Sledge, the devil, a train, the Face of Death [with leather jacket], any image from either Flavour of Night or I'm Only You, a Ghost Ship, a Glass Hotel, a Globe of Frogs, an anglepoise lamp, a lobsterman, a luminous rose, a man with a woman's shadow, a statue with a walkman, a rabbit train, a Rock'N'Roll Radio Queen [I think that a picture of Courtney Love or Alannis Morrisette will do], a few cones, silver wands, a surfer ghost, a shodow cat, a trilobite, a vegetable [man/friend/girl], and..........a prawn ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 08:45:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: studio chatter? > song on "Eye", but, unless I miss my guess, it's also in the weird studio > chatter snippet that closes the CD of "Underwater Moonlight". Any > insight? There is studio chatter at the end of Underwater Moonlight? I've never heard this! The only "studio chatter" I recall on UM precedes "Tonight", on which the only words I can make out are "record" "quiet", and maybe "amazing". (Whatta great song, by the way). -russ TODAY'S CHANGER CD'S Beatles/White Album Smashing Pumpkins/Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness Queen II (and I'm not even on acid) ------------------------------ From: SPIFFINGNY@aol.com Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 11:43:50 -0500 Subject: Golden Prince Sorry to interupt the flow of things like this, but the mighty SpiFFinG Empire has finally finished THE GOLDEN PRINCE RIDES AGAIN, the follow up to the previously never mentioned THE GOLDEN PRINCE. Though they will be available from Tower Records, See Hear in New York, and the remarkable MINUS ZERO in London, they can also be ordered direct. THE GOLDEN PRINCE is 176 pages of press compilations, interviews and article reprints plus a 20 page discography. This is $5.50, US post paid (US addresses only) Euro folks should get in touch to find out the air mail cost. THE GOLDEN PRINCE RIDES AGAIN (90 pages) is $5, same terms, and has an updated discography, quite a few more press releases, radio transcriptions and article reprints. The address is po box 725, Westbury, NY 11590 USA email spiffing@aol.com OK, back you go to usual onslaught of debate... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:15:57 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: a robyn chronology here is something else i've thrown together. any thoughts on any of this would be much appreciated. A ROBYN HITCHCOCK CHRONOLOGY ____________________________ Items in { } from Robyn's program given out at a performance on 3-July-89 in Golden Gate Park, SF (Thanks: Russ Reynolds). Items in [ ] from _Punk Diary: 1970-1989_, by George Gimarc; St. Martin's Press, New York, 1994; ISBN 0-312-11048-0; ML3534.G55.(Thanks: Gene Hopstetter). unbracketed items mostly from _1976-81_ and other interviews. corrections/additions to Bayard Catron ______________________________________________________________________ {1863 Jamblat Watashee Hitchcock marries Hanna Prewett. 1903 Sugarbeet Hitchcock marries Julia Cicely Trains. 1915 Marius Stretton Hitchcock drowned in a breathing accident. 1927 Giant Squid claims the life of Cynthia Mabel Prewett off Dawlish Warren. 1944 Raymond Hitchcock wounded in Normandy. 1953 Robyn Hitchcock born safely in London.} March 3, 1953. Robyn is born to parents Joyce and Raymond Hitchcock in West London, where he subsequently attends an all-male boarding school. {1954 Morris Windsor born mainly in Croydon. (March 3) 1956. Andy Metcalf born suddenly in Bristol. I see a dead chicken for the first time. 1963 "From Me To You" is the Beatles Second Number One. Kennedy Assassinated. I fall disastrously in love with Sandra Kenrich. 1965 "Mr. Tambourine Man" Number One in July. Still thinkin' 'bout Sandra Kenrich} 1965. When his attempts to build a time machine are met with failure, twelve-year-old Robyn becomes disillusioned. {1967 Get my first guitar. June 1967 "All You Need Is Love" goes Number One. Sept. 1967 I learn how to tune my guitar. Aug. 1968 Russia invades Czechoclovakia. I fall in love with Eileen Dibney. July 1970 Surprise return of Tory government in U.K.. Syd Barrett records his last LP. I write my first song "Baby" with schoolfriend Martin Mayer. Sept. 1971 First solo song--"Chug A Lug" (Just singin' bout my petrol) Feb. 1972 First public appearance in folk club with Richard K. West, now living in L.A. Aug. 1972 I form the Beatles with Martin and others. We play seven gigs in two years. 1973 Martin double barrels his name--he is now a lawyer--the Beatles split. Martin and I still lunch occasionally.} [Monday, December 31, 1973 (p. 9) The Symptoms are playing their last-ever gig. Tonight's farewell show is opening up for Chilli Will & The Red Hot Peppers (Phil "Snakefinger" Lithman's band) at the London, British Council. They've been playing together for about two years under various names. For a while they were The Plums, their drummer Patrick "Patch" Fisher had them appear as "Patchwork Quilt" once, their drummer Simon suggested "Four Ascetic Young Gentlemen," and their bassist Martin Stanway-Mayers came up with the Symptoms. The only problem is that at their farewell appearance their name is spelled incorrectly as the "Symptons." The guitarist/vocalist Robyn Hitchcock will later front the influential band the Soft Boys and later have a solo career of some repute in the '80s and '90s.] {1974 Move to Cambridge and play folk clubs for two years. 1975 See Andy and Morris. 1976 Speak to Andy and Morris. Form the Soft Boys (initially Dennis and the Experts)} 1975-76. RH plays every weekend at the Portland Arms Folk Club, where he meets bluegrass guitarist Andy Metcalfe, and is introduced to Morris Windsor by James "The Great One" Smith. Rob Lamb temporarily (he thinks) loans Robyn his band, "Dennis and the Experts". [Wednesday, October 13, 1976 (p. 38) Robyn Hitchcock finds himself fronting a band called Dennis & The Experts. Robyn himself is cast in the lead role as "Dennis," while the "Experts" are Ron Lamb, Andy Metcalf and Maurice Windsor. They play a few originals of Robyn's and some covers by artists like Little Feat, Steely Dan and select bits of David Bowie. While punk is screaming on in London, Robyn is stuck in Cambridge playing what he later described as "sedate hippy gibberish." The group would only be a brief stopping place on the way to becoming the Soft Boys, with quite a different style.] [Saturday, November 27, 1976 (p. 41) Robyn Hitchcock announced to the crowd on-stage tonight in Cambridge "We're the Soft Boys." It's a new direction for the group that was only hours ago calling itself Dennis & The Experts. The new name comes from the title of a song that Robyn recently made up in rehearsal called "Give It To The Soft Boys." Rob Lamb left the group when he felt the band was getting to be too scrappy. The Soft Boys are Robyn Hitchcock on lead vocals and guitar, Maurice Windsor on drums, Andy Metcalf on bass and new guitarist Alan "Wangbo" Davies, who takes departing Rob's place. Why the name the Soft Boys? Robyn explains, "I'd had this concept of this thing called the Soft Boys, like a William Burroughs amalgam. Soft Machine and the Wild Boys. The implications were kind of homo-erotic and seedy, kind of crawling, bloodless, colorless things that crawled around like filleted human jellyfish around the corridors of power. Soft Boys controlled things but they had no spine. Basically insidious people and basically that's what we were." (They played that night, billed as Dennis & The Experts, at Cambridge, Polytechnic.)] March, 1977. Demo tape recorded in Robyn's living room. Later that year, the "Give it to the Soft Boys" EP is released on Raw records. Kimberly Rew replaces Wang Bo on guitar, making the band's sound significantly louder and harder. Radar Records signs The Soft Boys and they go into the studio for the "Legendary Radar Sessions," but the only release is "I Want to be an Anglepoise Lamp." Several tracks show up later on _Invisible Hits_. For the next two years or so, the band continues to play to enthusiastic audiences, with notable shows at the Portland Arms (acoustic) and Lady Mitchell Hall (electric). [Monday, October 10, 1977 (p. 88) The Soft Boys, a Cambridge-based band, have their debut EP released on Raw Records. The Soft Boys were formed out of the convergence of Andy Metcalfe and Robyn Hitchcock when Andy auditioned Robyn for a position as vocalist in a while soul combo that became Dennis & The Experts back in 1976. The band then reformed with Kimberly Rew brought in on guitar and Morris Windsor on drums. A song that Robyn wrote called "Give It To The Soft Boys" gave the band their name. Their EP has the tracks "Wading Through a Ventilator," "The Face of Death," and "Hear My Brane." All of the songs are Soft Boys originals. The other tracks from the sessions, "The Yodelling Hoover," "Vyra Knowl Is A Headbanger," and "Give It To The Soft Boys" are all left unissued until 1984.] {1977-1981 The Soft Boys land on the wrong planet. Record WADING THROUGH A VENTILATOR. In '78 record their first LP, A CAN OF BEES with a new member, Kimberley Rew, who would later join Katrina and the Waves. Refusal to cut hair, fake working class accents or devise an image, insured zilch interest outside Cambridge and New York.} [Friday, May 26, 1978 (p. 129) Soft Boys have their second 45 "(I Want To Be An) Anglepoise Lamp" released by Radar Records. It's back with "Fat Man's Son," both Robyn Hitchcock compositions. The Cambridge-based group is lead singer Robyn Hitchcock, along with Andy Metcalf, Morris Windsor, Jim Melton, and Kimberly Rew. Hitchcock has been in bands for many years. (The Soft Boys played in London at The Nashville with Solid Waste that night.)] Aug-Nov, 1978. _A Can of Bees_ sessions take place in Spaceward studios, the basement of 19 Clarendon Street, Cambridge. Additional personnel include Jim Melton on percussion, vocals and harmonica, and Gerry Hale on Violin. Engineer: Mike Kemp. For more interesting (mis?) information, see the CoB liner notes. Robyn later remarked that the highly polished, almost shellac-ed, sound of the CoB songs was due to over practicing. [Sunday, February 4, 1979 (p. 169) The Soft Boys have left Radar Records on the eve of the release of their debut album when Radar decided that the recording for "The Day They Ate Brick" was too bad to release. Their single "Anglepoise Lamp" was out last May, but their album will have to wait until they get their own record company, Two Crabs Music, together next month.] [Tuesday, April 24, 1979 (p. 185) The Soft Boys celebrate the release of 2,500 copies of their debut album "A Can Of Bees." it's a collection of eight studio tracks and three live recordings. Robyn Hitchcock has written a group of unlikely titles, such as "Leppo and The Jooves," "Sandra's Having Her Brain Out," "The Rat's Prayer," "Do The Chisel," "and "The Pigworker." The live tracks include a cover of Lennon's "Cold Turkey." The album is a re-recorded version of the album rejected by Radar a few months ago. Before settling on a "Can Of Bees" The LP was briefly called "Heat Me Up, And Tell Me You're Happy." A major tour follows today's release. (They played the Moonlight Club in London with La Starza that night.)] April, 1979. After further studio sessions (released on _Invisible Hits_ in 1983) Andy decides to leave the band. Matthew Seligman replaces him on bass, and the band's sound changes once again, leaning slightly towards the pop side of the spectrum. [Friday, September 7, 1979 (p. 219) The Soft Boys debut their new line-up. Bassist Andy Metcalfe left to join Telephone Bill & The Smooth Operators, eventually joining Squeeze. He is replaced by ex-Bruce Wooley Band member Matthew Seligman. Drummer Jim Melton left to start his own band and is having his duties heaped on drummer Morris Windsor. The Soft Boys are again a four-piece group. (They played the Rock Garden in London with Scissors Fit that night.)] Mid 1980. The classic _Underwater Moonlight_ is recorded for < 600 quid, released on Armageddon, and it's off to America for a series of shows in New York. (Original title: "That's my fish you're holding.") 1981. The Soft Boys record their final tracks, "Only the Stones Remain" and "The Bells of Rhymney" and these are combined with tracks from the 1977 Hope & Anchor show to make _Two Halves for the Price of One_, also on Armageddon. Robyn cites Andy's absence as a key reason for the breakup; "After he left, it was more just a band playing my songs." With Matthew's assistance, Robyn begins work on his solo LPs, _Black Snake Diamond Role_ released in 1981, and _Groovy Decay_, released the next year. {1981-82 Two Solo LP's (BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE, GROOVY DECAY) gain no new ground. Rock world in the grip of synthetic, technological image conscious music. I can't get my quiff together. Drop out, I write, including lyrics for Captain Sensible, who keeps me going spiritually and financially. Fab new album out from the captain soon. Peter Buck finds Soft Boys LP in record shop in Athens.} 1983. _Invisible Hits_ is released, with a mail-in offer for _Live at the Portland Arms_. 1983 Meet Peter in cat protection agency in North London. {1984 Return to recording and release I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS in September. Form Egyptians with Andy and Morris and Otis Horns Fletcher (old school friend) and Roger Jackson. First gig in two and a half years.} 1984. Robyn enters the studio alone and records _I Often Dream of Trains_, widely regarded as one of his greatest achievements, on a Fostex 4- track recorder in two days'(?) time. The Soft Boys' first EP is re-released in England as _Wading Through a Ventilator_; Robyn: "I heard that and it just suddenly seemed to me that we had been extremely good, but somehow we'd got lost along the way... it made me think that getting back together with Andy and Morris might be a good idea...one day's rehearsal and, bang! it was really fresh all over again." Thus was born Robyn Hitchcock and the Egyptians. {1985 Release FEGMANIA! (first U.S. album). Discover the sparkling joys of America. Collapse in San Francisco after operation. Limp on to Texas and give up. Everybody wept. Failed to support R.E.M. as a consequence.} 1985. _Fegmania!_ is released. The Egyptians tour Europe and the U.S. with keyboardist Roger Jackson. A concert from this tour (Apr.29.85 at the Marquee) is offered as _Gotta Let This Hen Out!_. _Groovy Decay_ is remixed, re-arranged and re-issued with a different cover as _Groovy Decoy_. {1986-87 Continue to tour U.S. with increasing success and sign to A&M. ELEMENT OF LIGHT tops college charts etc....Fail to support R.E.M. due to bad money from promoters.} 1986. _Element of Light_, another common favorite, is released, as is the _Invisible Hitchcock_ compilation. Most of the back catalog is pressed on CD and cassette, though available in the US only on imports. 1987. Robyn stops eating chicken. {1988 Release GLOBE OF FROGS. See second dead chicken--sell quite a lot. Work incognito in record shop in San Francisco for three weeks in the summer. Fired for incompetence. Record QUEEN ELVIS in London. Gear up for U.S. tour with R.E.M.} 1989. _Queen Elvis_ is released on A&M. "Madonna of the Wasps" gets some radio exposure. At the time, Robyn dislikes the tightness of having to record by committee, but later seems quite fond of the album (unlike many critics and fans). 1989-1990. Robyn takes a break from his bandmates, A&M, and production values, and _Eye_ is released on Twin Tone, with a solo tour. The simplicity and elegance of _Eye_ earn it a devoted following. Early on in this period, Robyn is in a bad state mentally, but comes out of it quite nicely after getting _Eye_ out of his system and meeting Cynthia, to whom the next record is dedicated. Around this time he lives in San Francisco, writing songs later to be released on _Perspex Island_; his roommate later opens "Neurotic Records" and Robyn plays a secret gig there in September 1994. Robyn seems to have an affinity for San Francisco and an aversion to Los Angeles, his next stop. In fall of 1990, the fegmaniax listserver is first set up, but soon 'blows its brains out in a freak disk drive accident' -woj. 1991-92. Robyn travels to A&M studios in Los Angeles, where he reunites with the Egyptians and records _Perspex Island_, his most commercially successful album to date. The US/European tour is also quite successful, with an acoustic set concluding the shows. The media notes the high sales volume and predicts even greater success. Two or three songs get significant radio play. The fegmaniax internet list finds a new home. Robyn's father dies of cancer, and _Respect_ is dedicated to (and influenced by) him. 1993. The band takes a quieter, more acoustic turn, in keeping with the _Perspex_ tour's closing sets. The _Respect_ album and tour are met with somewhat limited success. Robyn and the Egyptians are released from their A&M contract. Mrs. Wafflehead takes over the Fegmaniax fan club duties from Sandra and Trudi, offering a special souvenir live _Give it to the Thoth Boys_ tape from a reunion gig in England. Also offered for sale are some of the scarce independent-label cd's. 1994. Robyn tours Canada and Europe with the reunited Soft Boys, the Egyptians, and solo, in support of the tentatively titled _Surfer Ghost_. Fans everywhere wait eagerly for news of this ephemeral release. The Soft Boys lineup varies from show to show, but is always met with ecstatic support. In the latter half of the year, Robyn tours the West coast for a number of solo acoustic/electric shows. Ms. Wafflehead offers a second live souvenir Soft Boys tape from England, _Where are the Prawns?_ All of the non- A&M albums are slated by Rhino for re-release at last, as well as a collection of rare tracks and odds and ends tentatively entitled "You & Oblivion" and perhaps a spoken-word album including the stories from the _Queen Elvis_, _Eye_, and _Respect_ CD booklets. The internet feglist dies again in October. Robyn and Cynthia break up. 1995. Robyn tours the east coast of America in the first half of 1995. The feglist comes back to life. _Glass Flesh_, the tribute compilation of RH covers performed by internet fegmaniax, is completed (at least the first two installments of it). Robyn now seeing Miyshi. 1996. Robyn, now signed with Warner Brothers, continues to play live fairly frequently. The new album (now apparently called _Shadowcat_) is slated to be released in May. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 12:30:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: studio chatter? The reissued Ryko _UM_ disc includes the "near the soft boys" ep, which ends with studio chatter. perhaps this is where cliquot surfaces (and does this have anything to do with awful german table wine?) ps. I'm pretty sure sure the "snl" appearance was actually on the short- lived dennis miller show after all. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 16:08:00 -0600 From: Jim Moore Subject: Surfer Ghost I'm woefully behind the times, but thanks to our friend I recently had the opportunity to hear the NetSurfer Ghost stuff. There's some really good stuff on there! On the humorous and witty side, I liked the "Trilobite" song, "Cheese You" and the hilarious version of "Statue with a Walkman". I can't think of a funnier, wittier song than "Trilobite"--I know he won't but I hope he finds a place for it on the upcoming CD. Sven is a pretty good name, and I would love to be in the stands for a Clicking Championship. (of course, the Trilobite would win) I also laughed my cranium off at the spoken word parts of "Statue"... far and away funnier and more clever than the version on the Sampler CD. The line about the remastered Don Henley CD being "slightly less predictable" than the OJ trial (which the whole universe was tuned into) was a classic. Robyn is just so danged witty! He's the wittiest Brit since Palin. If popularity was wit he'd be the poet's Brad Pitt! Anyhow, in the more emotional and just "great ol' songs" category, my faves are: "Sinister but Happy", "Silver Wands", "Surfer Ghost", "Flagstones" and the cool version of "Zipper" (but who's that playing drums and bass?) On another note (B flat), all this talk of Beaker makes me laugh. I have been given that nickname by numerous people during almost every period of my life from jr. high to grad. school--so I really must look like him (it?). But my face has gotten a bit rounder since my marriage last year and now people say I look like a grown-up version of Macauley Culkin... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Sincerely, Dwight in the Light Otherwise known as Jim "Beaker" Moore jimm@dbu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 96 16:17:03 CST From: Truman Peyote Subject: alcohol references Bayard asks: > ends with studio chatter. perhaps this is where cliquot surfaces (and > does this have anything to do with awful German table wine?) I reply: no, it has to do with decent quality French champagne caled Veuve Cliquot :). It does, however, have a lot to do with guys named Reg. You know if you go messing with them they'll leave you gurgling behid a hedge, so I'd be careful about this line of inquiry. Susan maybe it has someting to do with German leather and German tongues........nahh :) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 96 15:33:44 CST From: The Goddess Subject: Me too I want to add myself to the list of people who somehow missed out on the first video compilation who'd like a copy. Please let me know if you'd be my branch! Sarah Clopton ------------------------------ From: "Aaron Sparrow" Date: Thu, 8 Feb 1996 19:02:16 -0500 Subject: Re: alcohol references CC: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Bayard asks: > ends with studio chatter. perhaps this is where cliquot surfaces (and > does this have anything to do with awful German table wine?) Susan counters: > It does, however, have a lot to do with guys named Reg. I retort: Please don't call me Reg - that's not my name! Aaron P.S. I think a clickot is a rare grasshopper of unsurpassing beauty and comparable guile. It lives only in the Arctic and preys on unsuspecting penguins (pardon the gratuitous "unsuspecting"). The scientific name is surtanli cliquot, but penguins don't call it anything at all. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Feb 1996 19:07:17 -0600 From: vlyg Subject: Re: alcohol references while we are on the subject of chatter at the end of songs.I have a quick question. On the end of one of the Soft Boys albums i forget which one Robyn says Cleethorpes What?Who?Where? is this? VLYG ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest.