Fegmaniax Digest Volume 4 Number 9 Send posts to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send subscribe/unsubscribe commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu Send comments, etc. to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu FegMANIAX! Web Page: http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/ Archives are available at http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today's Topics: ------- ------- RE: Bravo! Re: tapirs Re: Rhino cassette Re: tapirs Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) Re: mystery cassette luminous rose Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) mellow together fans mellow together Re: dry spells (as opposed to dizzy spells) tribute cd, robyndocs Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) Polly on the Fairport Shore Re: Folly on the Pairfork Sn RE: Polly on the shore a+m promo questions webpage lady waters and the hooded one Re: a+m promo questions ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:54:09 UT From: "Kenneth Johnson" Subject: RE: Bravo! Kershaw is the place to find cool Madonna..yup >---------- >From: owner-fegmaniax@ns2.Rutgers.EDU on behalf of Brett Cooper >Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 1996 7:42 PM >To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >Subject: Bravo! > >Just watched "Brenda Of The Lightbulb Eyes", which includes the Robyn >videos that i have not see since 1989, "Madonna Of The Wasps", "One Long >Pair Of Eyes", and "The Prisoner"-related "Balloon Man". > >I have two questions: Who is the old man and kid in "Madonna..." and "One >Long..."? And the video version of "Madonna..." is different from the >version on "Queen Elvis". The video version is far superior. Is this >available on any release. Possibly the version on "The Kershaw Sessions"? > >Be seeing you- >Brett (Cooper) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 96 00:12:18 EST From: Benjamin.M.Brainard@Dartmouth.EDU (Benjamin M. Brainard) Subject: Re: tapirs Benjamin.M.Brainard@Dartmouth.EDU (Benjamin M. Brainard) --- Terry Marks wrote: I like cats. Are cats like tapirs? --- end of quoted material --- sure, assuming you're cat is closely related and somewhat resembling a small rhinocerous with a large snout and no horns. they do exist, you know. ...ben ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 96 03:13:34 EST From: Aidan Merritt <101356.2516@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Rhino cassette > a Hitchcock cassette sampler. > Does anyone know of this cassette? As well as the cassette mentioned, some people who replied early got a CD instead. This was the snappily-titled _Catalog Sampler_ (PRCD7083). It was originally aimed at radio stations but due to nobody wanting it etc etc etc. Tracklisting was: Acid Bird City Of Shame America 52 Stations Uncorrected Personality Traits Used To Say I Love You Autumn Is Your Last Chance Nocturne Another Bubble Heaven My Wife &... If You Were A Priest Airscape The Crawling All I Wanna Do Is Fall In Love Eaten By Her Own Dinner Queen Elvis Beautiful Girl Glass Hotel Goodnight I Say. All tracks are the album versions. Aside from 'Goodnight I Say', the songs are in the order in which they were _written_. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:06:38 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: tapirs > > not only can i sleep at night, but i can now go to sleep with the delightful > image of the tapir in my mind. in my opinion, the tapir is one of the best > animals ever. and robyn should geet a shirt with tapirs on it. yeah yeah. > tapirs. > > any other fans out there? > I like cats. Are cats like tapirs? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:01:55 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) > each new Robyn album is a cause for joy (even bad RH is infinitely preferable > to none) but because I think the quality of this album will say a lot about I say that, in some cases, none is preferable...he's got a lot of unreleased only-play-it-once-live stuff that really all sounds the same, it's like it's a song, but without a distinct sound or any real life to it. I guess it's harder to put life in a song and give each one it's own personality and so on if you're on your own, because you can only really sing and play guitar, and it takes a good deal of both to make a song sound distinct. Robyn has quite a few indistict songs. And I could definitely live without "Luminous ROse", "Black Snake Diamond Rock" and "Cold Turkey" > where the man's music is headed in the future. I hope to God he doesn't > continue to fall back on that "wacky old Unca Bobby, he's a card" schtick, > because among other things, it's really depressing. Ray Davies has been known I agree, but that's sort of what they tried with the A&M albums. I don't think it's worked entirely, and that the Pre-A&M albums are better than the A&M ones (except for Respect). Hopefully he'll make a new kind of album and all of it will sound good. > Susan > > P.S. All that aside, is there a tab for "Polly on the Shore" somewhere in the > archives :)? No, not in my archives, at least [My archives, I believe are complete, except for Raining Twilight Coast, QUeen Elvis and I Wanna Destroy You. Please send] It isn't on the tablist because it's a Fairport Convention song. If you go to the Fairport Convo website or mailing list, they may know. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: mystery cassette > Does anyone know of this cassette? > I gave one to my friend. It had on it: Airscape, Uncorrected Personality Traits, Heaven, and three other songs that I forget (all stuff on the re-issues) Also, they sent me a lithograph (more of a mimeograph, actually..) of a sketch of Robyn's from The Professor, of that woman inflating a turkey. Did anyone get a different one? Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:25:02 -0600 From: AAC708@Waldo.Angelo.Edu (johnny marr) Subject: luminous rose Oh, Terry, I think the world would crumble into tiny little pieces without Luminous Rose. Try giving it a go when you first wake up, it is truly fascinating to say the least... the only song I could live without is Wafflehead, for reasons obvious.... Fegs, I need live stuff!!!! eric fistopher gibbons *********************** i would go out tonight but i haven't got THING to wear. ************************ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:34:33 -0600 (CST) From: VERMIN-IN-TRAINING Subject: Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) >> Susan >> >> P.S. All that aside, is there a tab for "Polly on the Shore" somewhere in the >> archives :)? Ya know the first time I read this I was in a hurry and thought Susan was asking for the tab for the song with Paully Shore...then I thought Terry said he had it...fortunately I re-read it before I took that cynide capsule... chairs jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "All my friends do the model girl thing hist1a@jetson.uh.edu So I found me one University of Houston Now she wears my nose ring" --Lloyd Cole "Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip" "There's liquor on my breath --Robyn Hitchcock And you on my mind" --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:33:27 -0600 From: AAC708@Waldo.Angelo.Edu (johnny marr) Subject: mellow together Oh, just a tidbit... a friend of mine and I nominated Mellow Together as our class song for 96. AND it recieved 38 votes. We will probably be handed our degrees to the vile tune of whitney houston but there is a sparkle of hope out there somewhere. DO YOU THINK THAT MELLOW TOGETHER WOULD REPRESENT THE GRADUATING CLASS OF 96 MORE SO THAN SOME NAFF R&B CRAP?????????. eric fistopher gibbons *********************** i would go out tonight but i haven't got THING to wear. ************************ ------------------------------ From: hollie_satterfield@mail.amsinc.com Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:11:35 EST Subject: fans >It's just great that we don't have to fawn so much. I personally don't think fawning has anything to do with it, It is my personal theory that this mailing list skews older than a lot of the other music I read about on the internet, so there are less people here interested in ranting incoherently. There are people who don't care for that single you mentioned over on rec.music.tori-amos. But their posts are along the lines of (1) Well I heard this one song from the new album once. I don't remember what it was called but it sucked so the whole new album is obviously going to suck. Uh huh huh huhuhh. Pull my finger. (2) I don't like the new song and I own 18 copies of everything she ever released. I have an IQ of 614 so all people who disagree with me are idiots. If you like this song you should seek professional help. I'll take fawning any day over these sorts of messages. 'Me fans are stupid pigs.' - Bart Simpson the stereotypical rock star ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:17:00 -0800 From: Russ Reynolds Subject: mellow together > a friend of mine and I nominated Mellow Together as our class song for 96. > AND it recieved 38 votes. Impressive total! Sometimes I don't think there are 38 people in all of San Jose who even know who Robyn Hitchcock is. -russ. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:09:22 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: Re: dry spells (as opposed to dizzy spells) On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Thomas Narten wrote: > >Yes, Y&O did come out last year, but it was all old material that you > >bootlegging types were no doubt familiar with long before the album came out > >in a legit version. > > Not so, me thinks. I seem to recall the consensus at the time Y&O came > out was that much of the material really was unknown to fans. Say < > 50% had been heard before. yeah, the only ones i'd ever heard before were birdshead, you've got, victorian squid, ghost ship, sept cones, surgery, and take your knife out of my back. anyone learn anything new about the hedgehog song? that's the one that's been requested, but never played. hey terry... next time, you should request 'laughter'... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:34:37 -0500 (EST) From: Bayard Subject: tribute cd, robyndocs first of all, let me just say that 'mellow together' is an excellent choice, and it _is_ heartening to see people selecting it over WH, though this may be largely due to its obvious merit and not necessarily artist name recognition. btw, i think the guy who sings that song sounds like that cos his tongue is in his cheek. i want to let everyone who is participating in this ongoing Glass Flesh thing know that the CD may be getting made soon. so if you'd like your robyn cover song to get on, time is of the essence. the cd will contain the cream of the GF crop. also, version 3.0 of the compleat robyn songlist is on woj's fegpage. this version incorporates some of the fine work done by the folks who worked on the _SoftCore_ song documentation project. The total is now at 506 songs. I've updated the Chronology, too (a robyn history from 1863 to present) but the new one may not get put up until i can verify some of the information therein. you can find the fegpage one step away from http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj. if you can't do www stuff, i'll be glad to email either of these to you. please inform me of any corrections or additions that need to be made to these documents. bayard ------------------------------ Subject: Re: dry spells (as opposed to wet spells) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 07:56:47 -0400 From: "Thomas Narten" >Yes, Y&O did come out last year, but it was all old material that you >bootlegging types were no doubt familiar with long before the album came out >in a legit version. Not so, me thinks. I seem to recall the consensus at the time Y&O came out was that much of the material really was unknown to fans. Say < 50% had been heard before. Do folks still agree with this? Thomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 96 16:12:41 CST From: Bram Tchaikovsky Subject: Polly on the Fairport Shore About the Pauly Shore tune- Tere's a little note on the cd that says "all songs written n by Robyn Hitchcock/Two Crabs music". That's why I was under the impression that it was his song. Is that note incorrect (I guess it must be)? It does sound Fairport-ish. Susan stuck at home with a dastardlcold P.S. Eric- good luck to you in your continuing battle for "Mellow Together". As a veteran of a similar campaign (in high school I nominated "Sufragette City" as a graduation song, to a dismal response- we went with "Wind Beneath My Wings"), I understand your feelings. Perhaps you are not going out because you don't have THING to wear, but I suspect it's becauseyou'll never wear the damn thing out. Or meet the Queen, for that matter. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Jan 1996 15:27:52 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Re: Folly on the Pairfork Sn Regarding Polly/Pauly/Shore/Show'er Hitchcock/Fairport Convection: Some thoughts about this I would like to reregurgitate are that it is probably a traditional tune and that each has made his own arrangement for it. These are paid at a percentage of the statutory royalty determined by the performance rights organization to which each belong. I have always suspected that this was also the case for "Lady Waters & The Hooded One", but I have absolutely no proof. It reminds me of one of those zillion traditional Scottish ballads wherein everybody is miserable and they all die in the end, but the verses go on and on until someone has to stick a hot poker up the nose of the bard to get him to stop, but it's pointless now since all of the audience has committed suicide, except the brave one with the hot poker who goes on to become a great corporate executive and never lets go of the fire-tending utensil that once made him famous. But Robyn wisely spared us the last seventeen verses, and has kept his septim relatively intact. This practice has existed at least since the time that Ian Anderson took credit for writing "Bouree", a piece actually authored in baroque times by Johann Sebastian Egglseby Foghorn Leghorn III, a popular animated character of the time (sorry, I was just trying to see if you were still awake). Interestingly, Elvis Presley was given credit for writing pieces that others had recorded before he was born. Not that he got any of the money for it. I am not certain, but I think our graduation song was "It's a Gas" a flexi from Mad magazine (yes, I am making this up- the truth was probably something really discusting like "Afternoon Delight", or "All Out of Love"). I should go now to avoid complete surrender to my fingers which want to keep me entertained instead of finishing my work. I hope that the facts presented here are able to stand out from the pure unadulterated gibberish. -Mark Gloster Not a copyright lawyer, but I play an animated version of one on after school TV. ps. Who says you can't get mindless babble on this channel? It happens every time I send something out. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:00:48 -0800 From: cagedrat@ix.netcom.com (Rob Zarzecki ) Subject: RE: Polly on the shore You wrote: > >About the Pauly Shore tune- >Tere's a little note on the cd that says "all songs written n by Robyn >Hitchcock/Two Crabs music". That's why I was under the impression that it was >his song. Is that note incorrect (I guess it must be)? It does sound >Fairport-ish. > >Susan >stuck at home with a dastardlcold I think Polly on the shore is a "traditional" tune that is not subject to copywrite. I assume again that the version is Robyn's interpretation. Rob ps-What about "dirty old town"? (pogues etc.) traditional?? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: Miss Teen Reclamation USA Subject: a+m promo questions welcome, went record shopping in san fransisco over the weekend and got/spent way too much on some robyn a+m promos. i am curious as to what was available from a+m as far as promos goes--is the list below right, or close? 'balloon man' a&m-sp-17530 green vinyl 12" w/ballon man/globe of frogs (electric)/the ghost ship 'flesh number one' a&m sp-17549 blue vinyl 12" w/flesh number one/legalized murder 'madonna of the wasps' sp-17697 purple vinyl 12" w/mmodonna of the wasps/spoken word intro; one long pair of eyes (acoustic)/more than this 'one long pair of eyes' sp-17729 red vinyl 12" w/one long pair of eyes/ the ghost in you/freezze (shatter mix) 'dark green energy' a&m 75021 7277 12" w/dark green energy/ultra unbelievable love/ride (demo) 'oceanside' a&m 75021 7300 1 12" w/oceanside/fair play/linden arden stole the highlights/one long pair of eyes {the mother of all robyn promos--costs lots and lots} end of list--these are just promos again. and are there any others on vinyl? as for cd promos i only know of the following 'globe of frogs' same as 12" 'madonna of the wasps' cd 17773 w/MOTW (edit)/MOTW 'modonna of the wasps' same as 12" above with this list i know there is more, right? spectre, ect.... are there any uk promos from a&m that did not make it over in so shape of the american releases. lastly, i found this record called 'i saw my dinner on tv' by john hegely and the popticians. it is a 12" single from glass fish records in 1988. it has robyn and morris producing and robyn on piano and morris for percussion. john hegley, sue norton, and keith moore round out the top of the credits. any other info about this? he who spends so much for so little but seems to remain outwardly satisfied, .chris ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 21:52:51 -0500 From: 32 flavors and then some Subject: webpage Bayard sez: >also, version 3.0 of the compleat robyn songlist is on woj's fegpage. not yet it isn't. soon. i promise. i've been lazy this week. lazier than usual, in fact. >you can find the fegpage one step away from http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj. the full thingie is http://remus.rutgers.edu/~woj/fegmaniax/. speaking of webstuff, a html version of some of the archives should go live on http://archive.uwp.edu/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax/ sometime soon as well. if i can get it working, it will update itself automatically. after that (it's more a matter of time rather than a matter of knowledge, though there is a bit of that involved as well), i'll add to the htmlized archives as much of last year's posts as i still have in raw mail format (something like from mid-autumn '95 til year's end). and search capabilities. eventually. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 21:58:02 -0500 From: 32 flavors and then some Subject: lady waters and the hooded one "Mark Gloster" sez: >I have always suspected that this was also the case for >"Lady Waters & The Hooded One", but I have absolutely >no proof. i don't think that the song or lyrics are traditional as much as the story elements are. i have not researched it, but i am fairly certain that there are a number of "bargain" tales from the middle ages and later that are similar to the one told in the song. i bounced this idea off my better half (the german-medieval scholar) and she confirmed that the story motif was common, but her specialty is the grail legend, not plague folklore. i've been wanting to look into this further, but just have not had the time to do so. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:15:29 -0500 From: 32 flavors and then some Subject: Re: a+m promo questions Miss Teen Reclamation USA sez: >'balloon man' a&m-sp-17530 green vinyl 12" > w/ballon man/globe of frogs (electric)/the ghost ship huh. my copy of this seems to have gone awol.... >'oceanside' a&m 75021 7300 1 12" > {the mother of all robyn promos--costs lots and lots} oh yeah? $6 at st. mark's sounds in nyc. woo hoo. >end of list--these are just promos again. and are there any others on vinyl? the only other a&m promo 12" *single* i have is: 'so you think you're in love' a&m 75021 7271 1 12" b/w 'watch your intelligence' >as for cd promos i only know of the following >'globe of frogs' > same as 12" a promo regular-sized cd? or are you thinking of the cd3 single? others that i have: 'one long pair of eyes' cd17812 (?) b/w 'on long pair of eyes' (edit) clear plastic jewel case 'so you think you're in love' 75021 7268 2 no other tracks cardboard sleeve 'oceanside' 75021 7297 2 no other tracks cardboard sleeve 'driving aloud (radio storm)' 31458 8099 2 no other tracks cardboard sleeve 'driving aloud (radio storm)' 31458 8102 2 b/w 'allright yeah' foldout cardboard sleeve 'the yip song' 31458 8134 2 b/w 'the live-in years' and 'bright fresh flower' foldout cardboard sleeve there's also a promo compilation called _if we give you this cd...will you be our friend?_ which has "so you think..." and "watch your intelligence" on it. woj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- The End of this Fegmaniax Digest.