Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 190 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: alt.tim-finn/no rh content re: robyn poll Re: robyn poll oh no, another Beatles post Re: Alternate Lyrics Short end of the pole welcome wagon plea Sounds of the 80's Re: assorted stuff... Re: Short end of the pole Re: Short end of the pole Poll Reunion polls, poles, pols, poughls, etc. Re: Reunion Re: assorted stuff... Aye, mates, I'm baack... Re: Sounds of the 80's Robyn In Rolling Stone Robyn Sighting My California Office (small peas and pods) ------------------------------ From: MILLER@ECCLES.NZDRI.Org.NZ Date: 27 Nov 1995 07:51:01 +1200 Subject: Re: alt.tim-finn/no rh content To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu cagedrat@radiowave.com asked about ALT... I've not heard their music, but have heard less-than-favourable things about it, (NEVER let reviews stop you from following up a curiosity though) I can only supply you with part of the jigsaw - Tim F has hooked up with one or more of the Hothouse Flowers for this recording (one-off?) The buzz here is the release of the Finn brothers album 'Finn' which has been a long time coming (I guess until it gets out-buzzed by this Beatles stuff that makes it this far off the beaten track tonite). By the way, you guys have ruined all the suspense! Sally. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 17:08:02 +1300 To: Bram Tchaikovsky From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: re: robyn poll Cc: The Glass Hotel >And now to the nasty business. The Kinks are not number one on this poll, so >I will have to assume that funny business was going on. arr, but XTC were no. 1, and on the XTC list - Chalkhills - recently, guess which band of the late 60s and early 70s people have been saying XTC is most reminiscent of? Here's a clue, does the name Davies mean anything to you? James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (The list that invented itself) Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 0:34:29 EST Subject: Re: robyn poll james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) wrote: > arr, but XTC were no. 1, and on the XTC list - Chalkhills - recently, guess > which band of the late 60s and early 70s people have been saying XTC is > most reminiscent of? Here's a clue, does the name Davies mean anything to > you? > > James > > James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Weird. XTC and the Kinks rank among my favourites, but I never noticed the similarity. I did notice some Beatles and Beach Boys references, though (Dukes notwithstanding). There's lots of Beach Boys on Nonesuch. Waterloo Sunset still gives me goosebumps. -- ROSS OVERBURY - Sometimes Almost the Devil's Coachman email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ From: hollie_satterfield@mail.amsinc.com Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:26:46 EST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: oh no, another Beatles post mikeb@usa1.com said: >Jeff Lynn? JEFF LYNN? Why the @#$% did they get JEFF LYNN??? >Is it me, or is Robyn and Andy's production on "The Devil's Coachman" >more Beatle-esque than Jeff Lynn could ever hope to get? I won't disagree with anyone citing Jeff Lynne's propensity for over-production. But the whole idea behind the Electric Light Orchestra was based on Sgt. Pepper's, and 11 out of 10 college students who find me listening to early ELO albums ask me if this is, like, those Beatle dudes. Judge him not by anything recorded in the post-disco era. I don't know how Lynne hooked up with George Harrison, but he has always been a major fan, and I'm sure at this late date the Fab Three thought that he would know more about how the Beatles sounded than they would. We now return you to your regular mailing list already in progress. "Now here's 'When We Was Fab', which is a detergent." - Chris Elliott hosting Friday Night Videos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:08:19 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: Re: Alternate Lyrics >On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, Terry Marks wrote: > >> I want to compile a list of all of Robyn's live alternate lyrics, >> especially on Cleam Steve. [Don't send Mr. Rock'N'Roll or Wide Open >> Star. I've already got them]. How about the line "Something Shakespeare never said was ______." >From Chinese Bones. There are quite alot of variations on this one as well. Clean Steve from the Eye Tour was pretty tame until the last weeks of the tour, when it ended up being more like a story than a song. And then when the Egyptians played it on the Perspex Island tour, it ended up being more of a trip than a story. I have a version of it that is about 10min long! John, back from eating turkey in the armpit of the Southwest. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu "A pox upon the media and everything you read, They tell you your opinions and they're very good indeed." -Soft Boys -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 11:56:18 -0500 (EST) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Short end of the pole Greetings-- Is it possible my votes got lost? I see no entry at all for Judee Sill. Patti Smith? And surely the Pretenders might have done better(and the Kinks, I voted fro them too, not to mention Fairport Convention/Richard Thompson, who did pretty piss poor.) Otherwise, dont mean to winge overmutch. I wouldnt have been able to keep track of everything--so hats off for the effort. (P>s. its also possible I blew it on my end--being abit of a techno- dummy. But I had to send this message just to make sure Judee got mentioned--shes rather gotten lost in the annals of time-- does anyone know what happened to her?) P>S>S> I also thought Big Star and Husker Du would do better. P>S>S>>S Led Zepplin, who voted for them? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 14:22:28 -0600 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: pzzz@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (efrat) Subject: welcome wagon plea any kind souls of washington state fegs who wish to take on a lost soul of a feg + initiate me into the area? . . . .possibly give me a tour of robyn-esqe haunts? i am relocating, see, and will be without electronic communication access. what will provide my daily fortified feg dosage is anybody's guess. if there are any takers, please email me privately, while i still have access to my account. thanks in advance -efrat ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 15:50:53 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Sounds of the 80's Don't know if this has been noted yet, but I was watching TV late a couple of nights ago and I saw an ad for a Time/Life CD called "Sounds of the 80's", and one of the songs titles that rose up the screen at an incredible speed was "If you were a Priest" by Robyn Hitchcock & The Egyptians! How the hell did that happen? Does Trudi have a job with Time/Life now? -Russ (who likes "Real Love" much better than "Free as a Bird") PS-a co-worker saw me wearing my Robyn Hitchcock shirt last week and said to me "I just read that he's coming around--in December I think". Now, this girl isn't the brightest bulb on the tree, so when I scanned the newspaper and saw a December listing for Herbie Hancock, I figured that's what she meant. Just to be sure, though, has anyone heard of any plans for Robyn to Return to the west coast soon? ------------------------------ Date: 27 Nov 1995 17:18:43 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Re: assorted stuff... To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Reply to: RE>assorted stuff... >Jeff Lynn? JEFF LYNN? Why the @#$% did they get JEFF LYNN??? >Is it me, or is Robyn and Andy's production on "The Devil's Coachman" >more Beatle-esque than Jeff Lynn could ever hope to get? I saw the Lennon/threetles little "Real Love" (am I making this title up?) ditty the other night on the tele. I had recorded it from the show from last week. I am actually mildly shocked/horrified at myself for taking this position, but here goes: I think Jeff Lynne could have done a much worse job that he did. I expected much worse. Perhaps I was well enough braced from fegdialog that I had wrapped thirty-three meters of ace bandages around my head to keep the room from getting spattered when my head exploded. I was apparently spared the horror of "Free as a Bird". I still would have chosen George Martin, or whoever produced the Rutles' album. Devil's Coachmen does sound to me like a cross between Hugh Padgam and George Martin to me productionwise. (georgebushnewword) >Other producers for Robyn Why not, I'll go out there on a limb: Stan Ridgway T Bone Burnette Eno Flood Mitchell Froom >poll I was mildly concerned that the Hudson Brothers, John Tesh, and Yanni would overtake me in the poll. It is a good thing that I didn't lose a great deal of sleep over this. Voting twenty-six times may have helped things a bit too. More later. Gotta go wrestle with my feline friends. -Mark Gloster (_Monday's Lunch_, a new CD by Mark Gloster and Big Rubber Shark is coming sooon, I'm finishing the last tune- then mastering, then CD's!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:06:17 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Assa To: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Short end of the pole I must point out something that I found interesting. Sure, Teenage Fanclub sounds nothing like Robyn, but I would like to think that I am not the only person on the whole list who would give them a vote! Are they unknown to the voters, or is it that you really do not like them? --------------------------------------------------- 1. Earth is 98% full. Please delete anyone you can. 2. I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. 3. The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 21:33:29 -0500 (EST) From: roLLerCOasTEr boy To: Engulfed in Living Slime Subject: Re: Short end of the pole On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Gary Assa wrote: > I must point out something that I found interesting. Sure, Teenage > Fanclub sounds nothing like Robyn, but I would like to think that I am > not the only person on the whole list who would give them a vote! Are > they unknown to the voters, or is it that you really do not like them? > Teenage Fanclub, and the Kinks, and other people would probably make a top one hundred list of mine, but are not, for me, top ten material. I'd sort of like to see a weighted top 100 list (or even top thirty or something ... it was really hard to trim it down to 10!) ...but I can't promise the time it would take to tabulate it. Any frustrated statisticians interested? Interjection: I tried to rank artists in rough order according to the following three weighted criteria: a) how much time I actually spent listening to them circa 1995 b) how fanatically i respond when sighting an artifact by the artist that i don't already own c) how much time I actually spent listening to them at various points in the past. did anyone else have a more interesting technique? toodles, doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:43:10 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Poll To: Mark Gloster Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu I'm still surprised that I'm the only person who voted for the Bonzo Dog Band... Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ From: bing@student.umass.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:05:41 -0500 Subject: Reunion To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu I, of the failing memory, seem to recall being told that the netsurfer Ghost version of "Zipper in my Spine" is from a Soft Boys reunion-- am I remembering correctly? If so, when did this take place, and what was it like? Also, could someone with source info for some of the NG recordings share that with me? Thanks a ton and my best to you all, Bradley ps- college students will relate to the hundreds and hundreds of pages of reading I had to do today. Out of that reading is a quote i feel I need to share... "In South Asia common foods are rather uncommon." bleagh. ------------------------------ From: bing@student.umass.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 23:32:29 -0500 Subject: polls, poles, pols, poughls, etc. To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Anyone out there brave enough to add up a top ten of ninety-five? devil's coachman advocate, Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:15:12 -0500 From: "32 flavors...and then some" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Reunion bing@student.umass.edu sez: >I, of the failing memory, seem to recall being told that the netsurfer Ghost >version of "Zipper in my Spine" is from a Soft Boys reunion-- am I remembering >correctly? If so, when did this take place, and what was it like? that "zipper in my spine" was taken from the soft boys' january 18, 1994 mark radcliffe session. the soft boys also did a bunch of reunion shows at that time too (the london astoria gig - 13 jan 94 - is available for sale from mrs. wafflehead). >Also, could someone with source info for some of the NG recordings share that >with me? for the record, i purposely did not list the locations and dates for each track on netsurfer ghost since i want people to think of the tape as an *album* not a collection of live cuts. if enough people twist my arm, maybe i'll share. assuming i can remember. ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 07:23:28 -0500 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: assorted stuff... >I still would have chosen George Martin, I heard that he said if he had been asked he would _not_ have done it. ---Mike (Nickname O' The Month - "Noise Magazine Tape Of The Month Boy") Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 09:56:57 -0600 (CST) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Aye, mates, I'm baack... To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Back in the land of cheeseburgers and cokes...in the next week or so the tour will show up on a web page....now my box did close my account down at one point once it filled with the 99 mail limit, so I'll table up the top 10 list with the names of people I've gotten votes from and if youre not listed you may need to send meyour list again.... Scotland was overflowing in the new and improved synthetic Beatles marketing dredge...as for the new stuff the Beatles should remain in the 60's...their relevance to advancing todays music scene is nil...they're a novelty act now...like the platters or Hermans hermits, so it really id doesn't matter who produced them cause their time has come and gone.... Stuff I heard there that you might want to try and find....Dodgy....Gorky's Zygotic Mynci...the latter singing a good number of their songs in Welsh and their most recent album is kickin'...they also put on a damn good show... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "All my friends do the model girl thing hist1a@jetson.uh.edu So I found me one University of Houston Now she wears my nose ring" --Lloyd Cole "Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip Yip" "There's liquor on my breath --Robyn Hitchcock And you on my mind" --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 95 11:52 PST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: upstart@mindlink.bc.ca (Renee Lynn) Subject: Re: Sounds of the 80's >PS-a co-worker saw me wearing my Robyn Hitchcock shirt last week and said to >me "I just read that he's coming around--in December I think". Now, this >girl isn't the brightest bulb on the tree, so when I scanned the newspaper >and saw a December listing for Herbie Hancock, I figured that's what she >meant. Don't feel too bad, whenever Robin Trower comes to Vancouver, (which seems to be all the time) I get all kinds of helpful tips from my well-meaning but clueless coworkers.... It always gives me a heart attack. Renee Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 12:10:11 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber To: Satellites and Stags Subject: Robyn In Rolling Stone fegs, several people asked me to post this...here goes: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rolling Stone, Issue 492, January 29, 1987. _MUSIC_ _NEW FACES_ "ROBYN IN WONDERLAND" Oddball English rocker and former Soft Boy Robyn Hitchcock finds an audience in America for his fun-house pop. by David Fricke Oblivious of the racks of Michael Jackson CDs on his right and the Olympian-sized displays of Frank Sinatra and Bruce Springsteen on his left, Robyn Hitchcock strums his guitar with unflappable cool and begins to spin a colorful though improbable little yarn for the crowd of fans gathered around him at Tower Records in New York. "Born in 1872 of humble Hungarian-immigrant parents, Eileen Franshaw moved to London and settled in the east end," declares Hitchcock, a vision of trippy sartorial spendor in his iridescent blue-striped suit and bright-purple suede shoes. "She soon carved a name for herself by inventing Plasticine some seventy-five years before any leading toy manufacturer. "Her brother Cyril fared less successfully, however," he continues, after a burst of chuckles from the audience. "He was horribly dismembered at the Tower of London when, inadvertently taking one of his sandwiches out of its wrap, a raven swooped down and bit off his head with the edge of the sandwich still in his mouth." Then, before he puts his guitar down to start autographing copies of his new album, _Element of Light_, Hitchcock changes the subject from voracious birds to amorous primates, wrapping up an enigmatic little ditty called "City of Shame," from his 1981 LP _Black Snake Diamond Role_. "It was in the city of shapes," he croons with singsong solemnity, "that made love to several apes/She felt weird for a couple of days/then she got used to their ways." Hitchcock, as you can probably tell, takes some getting used to himself. He has a novel approach to pop minstrelsy -- deviant melodies, irresistible choruses and fun-house wordplay applied to Robyn-in- Wonderland scenarios involving, among other things, fish ("Bass"), eccentric specters ("My Wife and My Dead Wife") and Stonehenge ("Only the Stones Remain"). His songs are unlike anything on the current chart land scape of synthetic uniformity. Unfortunately, this has led many critics in Hitchcock's native England to simply file his records under "Acid Casualties." Young America, however, is slowly but surely falling under Hitchcock's uncommon spell. He and his swinging combo, the Egyptians (bassist Andy Metcalfe and drummer Morris Windsor), have become a solid draw in U.S. clubs, and his 1985 releases, _Fegmania!_ and the live _Gotta Let This Hen Out!_ charted high on college-radio playlists. And if his Tower Records appearance is any indication, his growing audience is a wonderful motley assortment of preppie collegians, teenage punkettes and veteran progressive-rock hairies who trace Hitchcock's spiritual lineageback to freak-rock avatars like Captain Beefheart and original Pink Floyd guitarist-vocalist Syd Barrett. "I like being in the wrong climate, to an extent," Hitchcock says of his unexpected stateside takeoff. It's the day of the Tower Records appearance, and he's standing on the eighty-sixth-floor observation deck of the Empire State Building. "It's like being a cactus at the North Pole. I'm a connoisseur of the inappropriate. I like the way they stuck an ape on the top of this building." He smiles wryly. "You can't get more inappropriate than that. But they did it, and it looked good." Hitchcock, 33, is quick to point out that his pop fantasias are not just paisley-flavored whimsy. Take "Kingdom of Love," a buoyant little number hitchcock recorded with his late-Seventies band, the Soft Boys: "You've been laying eggs under my skin/Now they're hatching out under my chin/Now there's tiny insects showing through/All them tiny insects look like you." "Someone took that song to a psychologist," Hitchcock notes, "and he said it was a classic paranoid delusion. But I think it describes the way people have an effect on each other and sometimes have kids. That's describing mating pretty accurately -- 'All them tiny insects look like you.' If two people split up, the kid still reminds them of the ex-wife or ex-husband. "My stuff is totally sincere," he insists, "but I have a sense of humor. People feel because I have a sense of humor that what I have to say as a writer is worthless. But it's not true." Hitchcock's first lesson in reconciling the real and the surreal came when he heard Bob Dylan's "Like A Rolling Stone" at age thirteen. Three years later, he simultaneously discovered William Shakespeare and Captain Beefheart. He became serious about putting his expanded vocabulary to music while studying English at Cambridge. He puttered around in local coffeehouses as a solo folkie, formed a bizarre acoustic quartet with the charming name of Maureen and the Meatpackers and in 1976 formed the first of several Soft Boys lineups with Metcalfe and Windsor. The basic idea of the Soft Boys, Hitchcock says now, "was to cross _Abbey Road_ with _Trout Mask Replica_, to have those harmonies and choruses and also that jumping sound." Unfortunately, the Soft Boys' cheerfully bizarre pop was never heard above the roar of England's Sex Pistols generation. The group disbanded in 1981 after playing only one pitifully short U.S. tour. (Guitarist Kimberley Rew went on to form Katrina and the Waves.) In recent years, Hitchcock has concentrated on refining his flights of melodic and lyric fancy, not so much for the charts as for his own peace of mind. He admits he took about half a dozen exploratory acid trips in the early Seventies, but he thinks that reality is tough enough to digest without chemical interference. "Life is too out of control," he says. "I'm trying to make order in way, to present things in as acceptable a way as I can. I'm trying to sweeten the horror, soften the torment." Indeed, the sprightly "Lady Waters & the Hooded One," on _Element of Light_, is probably the only pop song about bubonic plague you can sing in the shower without cringing. "I wished for the impossible when I was a kid," Hitchcock says, "and when I couldn't realize it, I retreated into fantasy. But I hope people don't use my records as an excuse not to relate to their girlfriends or parents. I hope they take 'em off and think, 'God, I'll go downstairs and be nice to Mum.'" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a picture of Robyn included. He is standing on a balcony which overlooks a city. He is wearing a blue pin-striped suit and a bright pink shirt. His hands are at his head level appearing ready to reach out and grab the camera. Cheers, Glen "The line between us is so thin, I might as well be you" --Robyn Hitchcock, "Chinese Bones" Glen E. Uber Department of Linguistics hirsute@u.washington.edu University of Washington 206.547.8936 Seattle, Washington, U.S.A. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 21:03:45 GMT To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: redsfan@dircon.co.uk (Mark McKeown) Subject: Robyn Sighting Hello all, Had a weird one today. Stepped out of the office for a bite to eat at Cafe Pasta on Chiswick High Road in London. Had some lentil soup and penne pasta with garlic and herbs and a glass of red wine. Paid and got up to leave and walked to the front door at which time I heard a voice. I said hmmm... that sounds like a voice I've heard before. I looked to my right and sitting there with a very attractive young lady getting ready to eat was none other than Robyn Hitchcock. I gave him a cool guy nod and he kinda just looked at me strangely and kept on talking. I did not approach. What does one say to one of their favorite musicians of all time anyway? "Uhhh...Gee I really dig your music." I am afraid this is a bit of a meaningless post since I am unable to say what he was eating or wearing, because neither can I remember. He did look very tired and his hair is quite long and gray these days. I guess the only good that comes of this is the knowledge that he remains amongst the living and it looks pretty good that he will still be around to perform on 8/12 at the Borderline. -- mark mckeown ------------------------------ From: BDWILLEMS@alex.stkate.edu Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 16:51:33 -0600 (CST) To: FEGMANIAX@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: My California Office (small peas and pods) I have found it. A piece of magic that escaped me for the past six months. It was not found in her lips, nor in his teeth (the names are left out but the body parts are real) but the magic was found in the snow. And it is only in the snow that I can cry and wimper about the few things that make me stop breathing. I had to stop at a Mobil station to sweep my arms wide over the city I live in and scream loud. The snow captured it all. My sound was damp but carried farther than I could have thrown it. That is where I rest, where the last parts of me lay. There are pieces of flesh laying outside the door of my apartment. Do you want some? I can send them air-frieght but it will cost a little more. I have no bride, although a girl kissed me just last week. She is beautiful and cried afterwards and talked about how she wanted to feel what it was like to actually kill someone (I agree) but she wanted to go to jail for it after and she didn't think that was what she wanted to do now (she's only 22). I have gone astray. I have licked my own blood. I am a frozen animal. I know that I am not understood, but my free-will is over. I am life-less and free. I am complete and utterly destroyed (and happier than ever for it!) Vanya Marie Miller [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can *not* be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ The Archives are temporarily unavailable. 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