Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 180 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: Are You Preapred? Spam and legirons Re: Are You Preapred? Re: Copyrights/Eye lyrics disc Prepared? the last i have to say on the subject robyn with a y Influences and set lists Re: Prepared? robyn with a y re: queen of eyes Tab request stuff Re: robyn with a y Are the Higsons Electric ? Portland Arms Re: Portland Arms Re: Portland Arms portland/seattle show reviews ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 10:25:16 -0600 (CST) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Are You Preapred? To: jenor@csd.uwm.edu Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >And who was it who, speaking too soon, said none of the Rutgers listservs >had been spammed? > just send a nasty note to that account and the postmaster at that site quoting the entire piece of mail....if everyone does that it will piss the post master off enough to close the account.... ....as for enforcement of copyright...it would no doubt not be a criminal prosecution in the US unless they are part of a multi national corp...odds are it would be a civil suit then their lawyers backed usually by local sheriffs offices would take the stuff....thats what the Scientologists did to those guys running the anti-Diaretics web site in colorado and germany jay > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Must you tell me all your secrets hist1a@jetson.uh.edu When its hard enough to love you knowing nothing" University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 12:11:55 EST From: Daniel Ginsberg Subject: Spam and legirons To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu 1. RE: odd bits of foriegn law-- Enforceable? Prolly, kids. That is what These little bi and multilateral accords are all about. "specially between allies, especially when big money is involved. If you think that yer unca sam wouldn't sell you to queen over copyright infringements, think again. 2. Before anyone does mail-spam retaliation, please keep in mind that it *is* [possible to hack accounts and/or send mail on other folx name. Do unless you are pretty sure that the addy in the FROM field is the addy that was really responsible for the spamming, think twice about retaliation. Best first bet might be a bit of mail to root at the address, explaining the problem adn asking him/her to check it out. ever yours, dan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:53:33 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Are You Preapred? To: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" Cc: "Us...we wanna be some anglepoise lamps yeh!" On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey wrote: > No, I'm not preapred. But I wonder--does Mr Quizert think this list is > full of drug addicts or something? Or does he think we're a bunch of > poppy-seed bagel-eaters? (Poppy-seed toast--now *that*'d be more likely...) Perhaps he read into "Tell me about your Drugs" a bit too far? > And has anyone ever spammed a bunch of lists trying to sell spam? I'm sure they have. And I'm sure whoever recieved it sent it right back to the sender > > i say we all send Mr. Quizert a glass of piss--serve him right! I say we let him know who we are. Send him a Glass of Fish. Terry Marks ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:57:23 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Copyrights/Eye To: roLLerCOasTEr boy Cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps > Ok, Terry, but if you try to tell me I'm a pervert for thiking there's > somthing sexual about "Agony of Pleasure," well.... Well, if the underside of the bridge fits... But ok, yeah, there is something sexual about it. Personally, I don't think that the song fits the album too well. > re:Quizert's spam: geez, i don't think i've ever gotten the same message > so many times! after i deleted all of them i didn't have any mail left... Terry sits back wondering what the hate mail:customer ratio generated by messages like that is... Terry ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 15:18:09 -0500 From: am497@freenet.buffalo.edu (Michael J. Swedene) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: lyrics disc i am relly getting bored witht the bootleg discussion, just my nickel. all right then, i liked the explanation of clean steve, it worked for me. i too have always felt that there was a sexual-ness to agony of pleasure, a great tune imho. there, i've said it...nothing happened god did not come down from the sky and strike me dead. --HERBIE -who wishses he had a copy y of portland arms. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 14:56:32 CST From: Bram Tchaikovsky To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Prepared? What I thought was humorous about this particular ad was that (at least here in the U.S.) Clean and Clear is a brand of astringents and moisturizers. Wouldn't drink those no matter WHAT kind of test I had to pass :). Susan P.S. I also thought that Clean Steve's videos were of a pornographic nature. Guess I'm just one of those dirty-minded fegs :). ------------------------------ Date: 11 Nov 95 16:02:42 EST From: Positive Vibrations <101356.2516@compuserve.com> To: Fegmaniax Subject: the last i have to say on the subject a) if anyone wants proof of the BPI's willingness to take you on should you be found out, ask woj to forward the file I've sent him which i've unfortunately deleted now. b) if anyone seriously doubts the ability of British quangos, government, police and trade associations to massively overreact to the most petty things, check out http://www.bath.ac.uk/~bs2ajs/CJ.act.html c) if anyone _still_ doubts the ability of the British to prosecute people for ludicrously petty things, bear in mind that people have received jail sentences of up to two years for the crime of 'being in a group of more than 13 people listening to music characterised by the emission of repetitive beats'. in response to terry's question; the US police won't raid you. What's happened in the past (i've sent woj a press sutting of a case, should anyone not believe it) is that the BPI hires a US security firm to raid you. Goods of yours will be seized and held in lien to cover the cost of the security staff. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:23:11 -0800 (PST) From: Livia To: your mom Subject: robyn with a y here's something interesting i just finished reading a novel by an english writer (david lodge) where the main female character is named robyn penrose. one of the ongoing plot twists is someone getting confused because "robin" is a man's name, and someone else explaining that it can be a woman's name when spelled with a y. for example "Nice young wench, that," he observed. "What she call herself Robin for? Boy's name, innit?" "It can be a girl's. They spell it with a 'y'." i had always assumed that the y-spelling was just a neutral variant, like bryan. but this opens up some interesting questions. did his parents have a strange sense of humor? did he change it himself as a deliberate play with sexual ambiguity? (this would seem quite plausible in light of some of the comments during the infamous queen elvis discussion a few months ago) on the other hand, if robin/robyn really is something on the order of francis/frances, i'm surprised i've never seen it mentioned before maybe the uk fegs could shed some light on this ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 13:55:32 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber To: Satellites and Stags Subject: Influences and set lists hello fegs... Does anyone know if Robyn has ever mentioned any country-western singers as influences. He has done a few songs which I would consider "country-tinged", ("Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus", "Take Your Knife Out of My Back" and the acoustic "Arms of Love", specifically). I think I read somewhere that the first song he performed in public was "Dang Me". That is definitely possible, since Robyn has the same skewed view of the world as Roger Miller did. I have heard him perform Elvis Presley songs in concert, but I don't consider Elvis a strictly a country singer. Has he ever mentioned Hank Williams, Roger Miller, Johnny Cash, et al or any of the country rockers such as Gram Parsons as influences? Just curious... Also, would anyone happen to have set lists from Robyn's February 1991 show at Slim's in San Francisco and his July 1991 shows at the Edge in Palo Alto and the Great American Music Hall in SF? These were the first three shows I saw and I would like to have the set lists for sentimental reasons. No need to post them to the list unless you feel compelled. Personal e-mail is okay. While I'm at it, does anyone have the address of the feg archives? I can't find it anywhere. Thanx in advance, Glen E. Uber "If sometimes you can't hear me, University of Washington it's because sometimes I speak in Department of Linguistics parentheses" Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu --Steven Wright Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 14:05:33 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber To: Bram Tchaikovsky Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Prepared? On Sat, 11 Nov 1995, Bram Tchaikovsky, her smutty mind working overtime, wrote: > P.S. I also thought that Clean Steve's videos were of a pornographic nature. > Guess I'm just one of those dirty-minded fegs :). I guess it's to be expected of someone familiar with the airplane lavatory scene in "Emmanuelle" ;-) "Proud member of the mile-high club" Glen E. Uber "If sometimes you can't hear me, University of Washington it's because sometimes I speak in Department of Linguistics parentheses" Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu --Steven Wright Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ From: Anna Wilson Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 22:28:46 GMT To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: robyn with a y Ok. so two things: >on the other hand, if robin/robyn really is something on the order of >francis/frances, i'm surprised i've never seen it mentioned before I don't know, but: I know a male robyn-with-a-y and I don't know any female rob?ns at all. I always thought it was something like Ceri and Kerry. Or Catherine and Kathryn and all the other variations on it. Or Clare and Claire. But. and (long-held-back interjection from the side) why do I think of Gary Thing (Newman?) and the Tubeway Army every time I listen to Gotta Let This (quietly) Hen Out? It's like I almost know the song it's the same as, but not quite? Anna ------------------------------ From: "Eden Aurora Machell" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:17:26 +1100 Subject: re: queen of eyes Okay, I was being a bit dim. I sadly don't have Underwater Moonlight yet, but I do have the double CD compilation. I heard him play it in london this summer and it brought back alot of memories. I like the solo version and wish it was on a CD somewhere so I cuold play it on the radio. We can't play tapes on the air where I work. Any suggestions? I guess it's too much to hope for. Thanks, eden ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 17:25:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jonathan Naito To: Fegs Subject: Tab request Robyn Tabsters, How about working out some chords for "Sinister but Happy"? I would really like to play this one, but I haven't the time to tab it out myself. Thanks, Jon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 20:47:00 -0500 From: deluxe transitive vampire To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: stuff as any of you who complained about the lil' mail abuse incident already know, peter whazzisname's account on primenet.com has been terminated. primenet is also planning on billing ol'pete for the time it takes them to clean up after his net.droppings. hats off to them! am497@freenet.buffalo.edu (Michael J. Swedene) sez: >i too have always felt that there was a sexual-ness to agony of >pleasure, a "sexual-ness"? i think that would be an understatment. that song is clearly sexual, though covertly delivered. Glen Uber sez: >While I'm at it, does anyone have the address of the feg archives? I >can't find it anywhere. missing in action. the archives are still temporarily unavailable. i have a new home for them planned, but we are awaiting a net connection. the domain and machine are ready, but the link's not there yet. soon. i hope. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 11 Nov 1995 22:02:49 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: robyn with a y To: Livia Cc: your mom I believe that his name had a y in it on his birth certificate. [and yes, his mother's second name *is* Joyce. And his middle name is Rowan] I just find it odd that you get not one, but two guys with girls' names in the same band.. And did anyone ever call Kimberly Rew "Kim" for short? And can anyone explaing his "Sinew" nickname? Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (The list that invented itself) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 95 23:32:09 EST Subject: Are the Higsons Electric ? Anna interjected from the side: >(long-held-back interjection from the side) why do I think of Gary >Thing (Newman?) and the Tubeway Army every time I listen to Gotta >Let This (quietly) Hen Out? It's like I almost know the song it's >the same as, but not quite? > >Anna Please stop wondering before you have to remember "Are Friends Electric?"! Now the damned thing's stuck in my head for the balance of the night. My apologies to any who now share this affliction. -- ROSS OVERBURY email: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 01:06:46 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Portland Arms To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps I'm wondering who wrote the followign Portland Arms songs. My Evaline I Like Bananas (Because They Have No Bones) Horns Large Horns Wish I Had My Baby Back By My Side White Shoe Blues In the Mood That's Where Your Heartaches Begin Duke of Squeeze Also, wondering if anyone besides me has noticed the followign musical similarities: Unsettled : Word Song, Syd Barrett Wish I Had My Baby : Lady Is a Tramp, They Might Be Giants Winter Love : I'd Love to Change the World, Ten Years After I Got the Hots : Maisie, Syd Barrett Into It : Norwegian Wood, The Beatles [I plan on doing "Norwegian Wood/Into It" for Glass Flesh..hopefully. The tunes do fit surprisingly well together.] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 14:25:10 GMT From: Rob Collingwood To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Portland Arms In message Terry Marks writes: > I'm wondering who wrote the followign Portland Arms songs. > > [snip] > I Like Bananas (Because They Have No Bones) > [snip] Not much help, but I'm sure I remember reading an obit. about the bloke who wrote this a couple of years ago. It's an old song, dating from the thirties or forties? -- Rob Collingwood Warrington, Cheshire, England E-mail: rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk or: rac2@student.open.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 10:26:26 -0800 (PST) From: Glen Uber To: Terry Marks Cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Subject: Re: Portland Arms On Sun, 12 Nov 1995, Terry Marks wrote: > I'm wondering who wrote the followign Portland Arms songs. > > I Like Bananas (Because They Have No Bones) Chris J. Yacich. The official title is, simply, "We Like Bananas" > That's Where Your Heartaches Begin Fred Fisher I'll find out the others for you and get back to you as soon as I can. Glen E. Uber "If sometimes you can't hear me, University of Washington it's because sometimes I speak in Department of Linguistics parentheses" Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu --Steven Wright Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 16:09:22 -0500 From: deluxe transitive vampire To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: portland/seattle show reviews the following was sent to me by one of our newest subscribers before he was subscribed. i'm forwarding them on to the list for him. enjoy! >From gburnell@proaxis.com Sun Nov 12 05:27:07 1995 >Date: Sun, 12 Nov 1995 02:23:21 -0800 >To: deluxe transitive vampire >From: Grant Burnell >Subject: Re: Reviews of Robyn Shows in Pacific Northwest > >Thank's for the encouragement; here are my reviews and reflections on the >two Robyn shows last September. Hopefully, they aren't too long-winded. >You are correct; I'm not currently on the mailing list. The internet is a >new experience for me; I'm learning fast and was pleased to see that the >Robyn Hitchcock resources are more numerous and are of higher quality than >those of more "mainstream" musicians. Please feel free to add me to your >mailing list. Here we go as I try to remember the Robyn shows. I hope the >attachment comes through; it's a Robyn art collage that I whipped up in >Photostyler from a HP 2CX Scanner; I toyed with the idea of making a custom >shirt (not for sale, mind you) but I'm not that happy with the quality. >Some Robyn fans I know like to use it as a Windows Wallpaper. > >Berbati's Pan: This was at a small tavern/restaurant in Portland, Oregon. >Opening was Tiddas, an Australian trio of women who play Indigo Girls style >folk music; they did a good job of warming up a small audience of maybe a >hundred people; this number at least doubled by the time Robyn was on. >Morris Tepper then took the stage to do his "Hanging Watermelon" show, a >strange mix of Bob Dylan style folk with some of his Captain Beefheart >electric punch thrown in. By this time, the place was getting anxious and >all the chairs were taken. Everyone else was resigned to standing in the >back, off to one side of the stage, and unfortunately the stage is about one >foot high, so these people had a hard time seeing anything. Luckily, we >made the 80-mile drive from Corvallis early and were only ten feet from the >stage when Robyn FINALLY took the stage. > >He started with De Chirico Street and went on to Lysander and shocked us >with a mesmerizing version of The President. Other highlites included >Birdshead, Only the Stones Remain (solo electric), Flesh Hotel, Queen of >Eyes, You and Oblivion, and he ended with a crowd pleasing Kingdom of Love. >This show doesn't stick in my mind as well as the Seattle show two days >later, but it was well worth it, even though it meant working the next day >with two hours of sleep. > >The Seattle show was the best I've ever been to. The Backstage is a >wonderful venue with a good stage, a small floor area, and terraced tables >going around; I'd guess five hundred people but I may be way off. We opted >for the floor to get a closer view (and easier access to the bar). I'm an >Oregonian and have been for most of my life, but I have to admit that there >was something about the atmosphere and the crowd that put the Portland show >to shame (People were dressed as Devils and Ghosts and were openly sharing >their recreational um...foliage). Details like this made me feel that the >crowd was more "into" the show. Again Tiddas opened up to a good reception >(they are now touring with Billy Bragg). Morris Tepper didn't fare as well >since the crowd was getting restless. I think Robyn sensed the "vibe" when >he came out because he seemed to put more energy into the show than in >Portland. The sound system was definitely better; Robyn chatted quite a bit >more than in Portland and he played several more songs. He paid tribute to >Jimi Hendrix with a more than respectable version of The Wind Cries Mary >that seemed to surprise a lot of us Robyn freaks standing at floor level. >He also added I Something You, Message For You, and again ended with Kingdom >of Love. The only songs he didn't repeat from the Portland show were Only >the Stones Remain and The President. It took a long time for the crowd to >give up on a second encore. > >Like always, I was amazed at how flawlessly Robyn performed and played the >guitar--never a dead note. Interestingly, no songs from Respect or Queen >Elvis, and only Lysander from Persplex Island. The new songs went over very >well; one that stands out was called (I hope I'm getting this right) Cool >Bug Rumble. There was also one that I told myself I would remember that >somehow got erased from my brain. My wife Lorrie stands by me in that such >a song was played (both shows) and was extremely cool. The mystery song had >something to do with the Devil and it must be new unless it somehow sneaked >past me on a previous B-side. I had to double-check to see that You and >Oblivion is not on the album of the same name and must also be new. A few >more shows like this at the Backstage or any of Seattle hundred other clubs >and we'll have to move. > >We were treated last year to a solo-Robyn Portland show that was one of only >a handful either right before or right after the Soft Boys reunion shows. I >won't complain, but the Northwest has been exceptionally lucky to get these >spontaneous, small venue shows when the tours are so short-lived. > >Please feel free to E-Mail me your own experiences if you were at the >show(s), and no, I was not the guy dressed as the Devil. Hopefully, we'll >be doing this all over again, (with Eugene, Oregon hopefully added) after >the record release. Now if we could only get Julian Cope! > >Thanks, >Grant Burnell >Corvallis, Oregon > [][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] The End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can *not* be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ The Archives are temporarily unavailable. For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...