Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 171 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: REM Respect/Non-Robyn Songs To cheri only (no RH or list content) Re: Man Who Invented Himself Fegographics Re: Fegographics Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax You and Oblivion (and Dylan Thomas?) Re: Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax Re: Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 00:08:57 -0500 (EST) From: roLLerCOasTEr boy To: Terry Marks cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Subject: Re: REM On Sun, 29 Oct 1995, Terry Marks wrote: > Just wondering about "Man on the Moon". > 'Andy are you goofing on Elvis'... > Just wondering if this could be the Andy I think it is.. If the Andy you think it is is Andy Kaufman, I would say "yes." Otherwise, well, art is always open to multiple interpretations, I suppose. ;-> doug ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 01:23:31 -0500 (EST) From: Terry Marks Subject: Respect/Non-Robyn Songs To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Could someone please send me chords to all the songs from Repect, and the big Songlist. [accidentaly deleted my copies of both] And..I want to take a survey to find out what all of you like(musically), besides Robyn. Respond by private e-mail only. Any responses to the list will not be counted. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:56:53 +0000 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: Jim Subject: To cheri only (no RH or list content) Cheri.. Thanks for your recent mail..the reason I'm posting this to the list is that I have tried sending a reply four times, and somehow the system won't let me post you. Don't suppose you have an alternative email address? Charmingly Dangerous Jim Bower ------------------------------ Date: 30 Oct 95 13:57:01 EST From: Aidan Merritt <101356.2516@compuserve.com> To: Fegmaniax Subject: Re: Man Who Invented Himself It's about Syd Barrett; and despite that isn't in the least relevant to him. Aidan "I've got Ray Davies' phone number and you haven't" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 19:55:35 GMT From: Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Fegographics Normally, I'd agree with Terry about the irrelevant threads. But now I'm wearing 'em, and I'm glued to the screen (mail bonding) like all the other viewers who suddenly see their reflection. Dammit, this is magic stuff and I'm curious. For the record, here's how to find out if the person next to you is actually me: in a crowd: Male, 6ft, brown eyes, overenthusiastic dancing at work: University lecturer, Oxford in company: Vegetarian, 30, talkative at home: Guitar, music, poetry, rugs And here's the feg stuff: first heard: Andy Kershaw (Radio 1) in 1985 fave album: Element of Light fave song: Airscape others: Queen of Eyes, Winchester, Wide Open Star, De Chirico Street, Chinese Bones, Bird's Head, If You Were A Priest, September Cones. Thank you and goodnight. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:00:35 GMT From: Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Fegographics > Normally, I'd agree with Terry about the irrelevant threads. But now > I'm wearing 'em, and I'm glued to the screen (mail bonding) like all > the other viewers who suddenly see their reflection. Dammit, this is > magic stuff and I'm curious. Of course, to get the most fun out of these postings, you need to read between the lines. For example, the last guy to post was > in a crowd: Male, 6ft, brown eyes, overenthusiastic dancing ...worried about his looks, and can't dance... > at work: University lecturer, Oxford ...middle-class, and poverty-stricken... > in company: Vegetarian, 30, talkative ...getting old, but not eating properly... > at home: Guitar, music, poetry, rugs ...probably smoking too much grass... See what I mean? Jim Davies ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 15:03:00 PST On: Mon, Oct 30th someone who's name MS mail will not reveal to me said: >Normally, I'd agree with Terry about the irrelevant threads. But >now I'm wearing 'em, and I'm glued to the screen (mail bonding) >like all the other viewers who suddenly see their reflection. Dammit, >this is magic stuff and I'm curious. Sometimes it just seems like one of those dreadful "lets-get-to- know-each-other" sessions at the start of one those classes where everyone has to introduce themselves before the interesting part can start. Sometimes I find myself agreeing with the "where's the Robyn content" brigade. But you know, in many ways these shared biographies say more about Robyn--his appeal and his message- -than any chord transcription or discussions about set lists or shirt preferences. You see, unlike those students about to start a new class or seminar, you and I share a passion which (I maintain) links us at a profoundly deeper level than our mutual desire to learn, say, intermediate level statistics. We share a special affinity with one artist who's work has a particular resonance and importance for us. (At least to the extent where we are prepared to wade though 20+ emails a day!) I'm sure we all find something different to admire in Robyn's work- -but music and art affects us at a level beyond rational thought. What is it in each of us that responds? It's that deep down common "something" that intrigues me. Whatever it is, we all know people who _don't_ have it! (Who hasn't had the experience of playing Robyn's music to people who "just don't get it"?) When I look through the bio's I find myself searching for that thread of commonality, yet whatever it is it remains elusive. All I can say is that I get a feeling from pretty much everyone that I'd probably like them if I met them. Do I "see my reflection"? Far from it--but that's what makes this interesting. "Magic stuff"? Whatever. As long as I get a little more insight into Robyn's appeal--and get to know y'all a little better--I'm satisfied. Conclusion: you post 'em. I'll read 'em. -nw ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 17:59:49 EST From: Daniel Ginsberg Subject: You and Oblivion (and Dylan Thomas?) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu A bit of searching payed off and I found what I had thought would be there. The only real question now is its relevance. Here is the Dylan Thomas poem for your consideration. Maybe we can at some point ask RH about his literary influences? Anyway, lemme know if this resonates fer you.... It's Not In Misery But In Oblivion --Dylan Thomas It's not in misery but in oblivion, Not vertically in a mood of joy Screaming the spring Over the ancient winter, He'll lie down, and our breath Will chill the roundness of his cheeks, And make his wide mouth home. For we must whisper down the funnel The love we had and glory in his blood Coursing along the channels Until the spout dried up That flowed out of the soil All seasons with the same meticulous power, But the veins must fail. He's not awake to the grave Though we cry down the funnel, Splitting a thought into such hideous moments As drown, over and over, this fever. He's dead, home, has no lover, But our speaking does not thrive In the bosom, or the empty channels. Our evil, when we breathe it, Of dissolution, and the empty fall, Won't harm the tent around him, Uneaten and not to be pierced By us in sin or us in gaiety. And who will tell the amorist Oblivion is so loverless. _______ Y&O did come out after the rift with Cynthia, no?? dan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 19:33:15 -0500 From: deluxe transitive vampire To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax "Winkworth, Nick SJ" sez: >[a lot of good stuff which explains why i didn't stomp the personals] what he said. basically, it boils down to this: my job is not to direct the currents that the topics on fegmaniax drift in. my job is to keep the list running smoothly from a technical point of view and stomp on abuse of the list. period. normally, i don't take part in threads like this either. usually, i don't even read such posts, but i've actually enjoyed this one for cos it's nice to get to know the people who make use of the list into which i have poured a fair amount of time and effort. there's always a tension between those who think a list's scope should be limited to its raison d'etre and those who think a list's scope should be defined by its listmembers. i don't like coming down on either side of the spectrum since there are good arguments for both stances. however, when you get right down to it, fegmaniax has evolved into a community of people and the list is going to reflect that. the posts are not going to be just data-fact-oriented, but include aspects of our personality. sometimes, like, perhaps, last week, the threads will swing a wee bit too far to the personality-oriented posts, but, like any pendulum, it always comes back. so, to those who are fed up with demographics, i ask that you hang on a while longer till the thread damps out...and to those who aren't, well, here are my stats for the record. age = 27 years, 3 months. sex = male glasses = contacts mostly, but legally blind without them. location = boonton, new jersey whatidotofundmyhabits = petroleum engineering - really! my habits = buying music, reading science fiction, playing net.god, volleyball fave robyn (heart) = fegmania! fave robyn (head) = element of light fave robyn song = i have no fucking clue deflowered = heard uncorrected personality traits on the radio in 1984. now listening to = mr. bungle's _disco volante_ that's enough i guess. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:29:42 -0800 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu, woj@remus.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Reflections on alt.personals.fegmaniax Woj writed: >fave robyn (heart) = fegmania! >fave robyn (head) = element of light >fave robyn song = i have no fucking clue Performed only once, at the Viva Sealink! secret concert on a ferry in the middle of the Irish Sea, "I Have No Fucking Clue" was composed extemporaneously, based on the response to the question "Well, what song do you want to hear?" Improvising on the spot, Hitchcock produced a ten-minute opus which both exploded the conventions of the pop song form, and succeeded in wedding charming lyrics to a catchy, infectious tune. All who were present -- two old drunks, a scattering of university students returning from a rave in Dublin, a five-year-old monoglot Welsh girl, and of course Laurence and Sally -- have never been able to forget it, and can be heard cheerfully humming it to themselves every time someone utters those famous words. If not for the good sense of a passing bootlegger with a roll of 16 IPS tape, the song would have been forever lost to posterity, and, even so, copies of the "dreaded seasick recording" are nearly impossible to find. I myself have heard only a few bars, but have been haunted by them every day, and can often be seen hopping with one leg outstretched while waving my arms as I sing the song fragment over and over. Robyn is rumored to have a DAT master of this song under a pile of old newspapers in his mother's front room; this version was supposedly recorded after a drunken night stealing traffic cones with James Fletcher, who accompanies the song by inhaling through a saxophone. Sources in the U.K. report that he may be currently rewriting the song for inclusion on a later album, primarily by removing all references to sea life, crustaceans, animate meat, disconnected body parts, corpses, feeding tanks filled with semi-liquiescent foodstuffs, insects, and baboons, and replacing them with repetitive elliptical references to dismal failures of emotional intimacy. (This version may surface on the forthcoming original tribute album for Richard Thompson, entitled _Why Don't You Just Slit Your Wrists Right Now_.) If anyone has a tape of the song, I'd love to trade for it. I can offer you a 57th generation copy of Liz Phair's _Girlysound_ tapes. Don't all e-mail me at once, okay? - David Librik librik@cs.Berkeley.edu [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can *not* be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ The Archives are temporarily unavailable, hopefully not for much longer.. For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...