Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 169 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: THe Gender Issue RE: reclaiming the list Demographics Re: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind What was I thinking? reclaiming the list people love to talk about themselves RE: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind re: Bangles etc Re: How Did I Do? Oct 31approaches (was: The Ladies Auxillary) Re: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind Bye! baggy full glory Ummm.... Re: chord request fegographics Positive Vibrations magazine Left or right handed? Keeping score... Re: baggy full glory only if you have more time to waste online... Re: not himmmmmm ! Re: Keeping score... notes on others' notes, with a dash of.... demofegs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 07:28:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: THe Gender Issue To: Brian Huddell Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, Brian Huddell wrote: > > >Women on Fegmania > > No. > > I'm against this 100%. > > I know things are peaceful now, but what if the Bryan Adams or George > > Thorogood message-servers invade? (They *are* unstable, after all, look > > who they listen to..). I want this list to be able to defend itself, so > > I'm afraid I don't want women around. > > > > Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks > > a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us > > How about a "don't ask don't tell" policy. Only overt feminine > ACTIVITY would be punishable (ie. certain types of shopping; giving > birth; etc...) I don't know. I *STILL* wouldn't want to have to take a shower and be afraid of a bunch of women looking at me... Free your Mellotron Terry "THM" Marks ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 1995 06:31:48 U From: "King Chuck" Subject: RE: reclaiming the list To: "fegmaniax" >proclaims a female only week(and no cross-dressers allowed, you have to >have been born female or met the knife to qualify. Alll riiiight!!! I'm in! J. Bobbet ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:54:44 +0000 (GMT) From: M R Godwin To: The feisty barbel and the gruesome tench Subject: Demographics I seem to have come into this a bit late because of glitches with the local e-mail, so I thought the easiest thing was to edit someone else's contribution and edit it (thanks Ken). The problem was choosing one because about eight other fegs think the same as me. However, I do have one or two idio(t)syncrasies: age: 47, same as the trilobites where: Bath, England (leading town for Georgian architecture and Roman Baths. Local musicians include Peter Gabriel and Tears for Fears if that's of any interest - Respect was recorded 5 miles from here) job: tax research, lecturing in economic and social statistics dream job: replacing Antennae Jimmy Semens as second guitarist in Captain Beefheart's 1968 band; or steam engine driver... discovered Egyptians: Glastonbury Festival, 1986, playing "Queen of Eyes" and "Tell Me About Your Drugs". fave lps: Clear Spot, da Capo, Piper at the Gates of Dawn, Sunshine Superman (US version), The Velvet Underground and Nico, Career of Evil, the Jonathan Richman one with 'Abominable Snowman in the Market' on it. fave RH: Moonlight, Trains, Element of Light directors: Leo McCarey, Fritz Lang, Pabst, Murnau, Eisenstein, David Wark Griffiths, Jacques Tourneur, Terence thing who does the Hammer films Fisher, that's it, Billy Wilder, anyone who does black and white really. sp. effects: Ray Harryhausen, Willis O'Brien authors: Mary Renault, JRRT / CSL, Patrick O'Brian, J G Farrell, Howard Phillips Lovecraft painters: Jan Vermeer, Jan van Eyck, Max Ernst, Paolo Uccello food: Indian, Malay, pub places I'd like to go: Crete (again), Pergamon, Salamis, Babylon (but not this year) who I'd like to see produce next RH album: Joe Boyd! Damn right! No need to bother with the orchestra, though (did you know he produced the first Floyd single {Arnold Layne c/w Candy and a Currant Bun} but EMI wouldn't trust him to to the album?) Glasses: VARIFOCALS since last year when I found I couldn't read my lecture notes and see the students at the same time. Fave guitars: Pre-CBS Strat, National Steel, Fender Coronado (as played by Antennae Jimmy Semens a.k.a. Jeff Cotton), Gibson Firebird (as played by Buck Dharma), Tele with inlaid compact mirrors (as played by Syd). Ethnic thing: My grandfathers were both English (from Ilford and Matlock), my grandmothers were Jewish and Scottish respectively. Current band: Low-grade soul Current interest: Words beginning with MOR Toast: Fairly well grilled with slices of tomato and maybe some grated cheese too. Home page: http://www.bath.ac.uk/~hssmrg - Mike (Color Out Of Space) Godwin PS Do I detect that as the votes come in, IODOT is drawing into the lead? I look forward to the published tables - perhaps we can have some crosstabs complete with chi-squared significance levels? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 09:34:09 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind To: karwhite@pacifier.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >That said--have you ever noticed how BIG Robyn's hands are? Well, you >know what they say about guys with big hands. ... > Yeah, but you can't convince an LA jury of that one... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 07:42:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Lisa Freeman To: Grooving on an Inner Plane Subject: What was I thinking? I just wanted to ask the group for their opinion: Why are Robyn's pants always so baggy? (How's that Kay?) Why doesn't he cut his hair so he doesn't have to brush it out of his eyes all through the show? Oh, yes, and which of his shirts is your favorite? Last time I saw him, he was wearing a very plain, solid colored shirt. For the encore, he put on a thing with a kind of black(navy?) and white medallion / checker board pattern (ie interesting), like he usually wears. Needless to say, we were all relieved. more demographics aka opportunity to talk about self (we all jump at the chance): This is me: Lisa I drive: 1991 Escort GT, Racing Red (I know it's a Ford, but it has a Mazda engine) Live RH: at least every year since 1988 (every trip he makes to Oregon) First RH: bought GoF after hearing "Balloon Man" on radio. Hated it first time, after 3x I decided not to try and take it back, and within a week I was buying everything I could find. First (and only) conversion: my husband. Although I forced him to listen for several years, it was only after his first live concert that he started to submit. Now he would actually admit to being a fan. Lisa "Please Ralph, give me a spanner." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 08:31:39 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: reclaiming the list >Not to mention how they work their pig, or what they call it I call mine "Bucky". It's never mucky and hardly ever lucky. ------------------------------ From: s618621@aix2.uottawa.ca Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 11:29:36 -0400 (EDT) Subject: people love to talk about themselves To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu me: Caroline age: 22 big distraction: English Lit. at University of Ottawa, Canada minor distractions: smarties, gothic novels, "artistic inclinations", eightball (the fanatagraphic comic, for "mature" readers) lots of music--the quebec referendum-- glasses: nope other favorite music: saint etienne and spacemen 3, oh and of course, the transparencies fan since: heard Insanely Jealous on a mixed tape, around 1990(?)-still is my favorite song thoughts on "ladies auxiliary": i vote "non". ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 1995 10:31:18 U From: "King Chuck" Subject: RE: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind To: "fegmaniax" Q: What did OJ say when he discovered that the glove didn't fit? A: Huh... Maybe I *didn't* do it. >>That said--have you ever noticed how BIG Robyn's hands are? Well, you >>know what they say about guys with big hands. ... >> > >Yeah, but you can't convince an LA jury of that one... > >jay Chuck ------------------------------ From: seanbe@microsoft.com To: Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 09:30:51 PDT Subject: re: Bangles etc From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) .... (except that Susanna Hoffs wasn't one of the founder members of the Bangles - their first EP didn't feature her, but had someone with a Scandinavian sounding name instead, from memory). >>Her name was Anne Zilkinkas (or something like that) and she left (good for her) for a cow-core band named Blood on the Saddle. They had at least 2-3 LPs. If you can imagine, say, Costello's "Glitter Gulch" played doubletime with an acid-tinged fingerpicked Strat and standup bass...great stuff, and Anne's voice is beautiful. No earthly resemblance to Hitchcock though. >>Token RH content: Just finished "Crazy Diamond," the Syd Barrett bio, and RH features tinily in it both in quotes and discography. I liked his statement that for awhile he thought Barrett was "roosting in his head." Made me go out and buy the "Barrett" CD, which is good in a certifiably schizy way. cheers sb ------------------------------ To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 12:16 CDT From: Bret Subject: Re: How Did I Do? At 08:01 PM 10/26/95 -0500, you wrote: >I made a tape for our youngest, most impoverished fan on >the list and I wanted to see how you folks (both women and men) >thought I did on the song selection. >Uncorrected Personality Traits ok, I was reading down this list, sitting at the office with some-one on the telephone speaking in my ear........I may have lost my job when I read that one.......but boss, I swear, I wasn't laughing at the customer............ -----Bret ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: Oct 31approaches (was: The Ladies Auxillary) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 10:32:00 PDT On: Thursday, October 26 (only 4 days before Holloween), woj blurted out: >.... white, male, straight or dead.... >(i only qualify for two of the four, but i'm not telling which two). 'Fess up woj - only a power from beyond the grave could control the mighty Fegmaniax mailing list -- not no mention foreknowldge of RH's concert schedules, ability to leave Florida at will etc. nw PS Where d'ya get that ouija keyboard? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 13:07:42 -0600 (CST) From: mwolfe@macalstr.edu Subject: Re: Uppity woman speaks her dirty mind To: K A White Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Thu, 26 Oct 1995, K A White wrote: > As I mentioned in a previous post, my sister and I had discussed our > shyness (for lack of a better word) about bringing up girly-matters in > this forum. I posted, you read, you responded. Apparently we can rest > assured that gushing about the dreamy way Robyn flips his hair will not > be frowned upon. (After all, if you guys can discuss what babes the > Bangles > were on a Robyn Hitchcock list, I figure swooning over The Man himself > must be permissible.) > > That said--have you ever noticed how BIG Robyn's hands are? Well, you > know what they say about guys with big hands. ... > They wear big gloves?? :) -Michael (rimshot, please) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 13:35:43 -0600 (CST) From: mwolfe@macalstr.edu Subject: Bye! To: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" Cc: Vyrna Knowl Well folks, it's been a nice ride. Allow me to introduce myself, I am Michael Wolfe, grizzled veteran of this forum for almost four years now. I have found myself posting less and less, and found myself devoting less and less attention to the posts. I still love Robyn, and am impressed and heartened by all of your enthusiasm. But lately, with Quantum Mechanics hanging over my head, I have not gotten much joy out of deleting scores of "It's definitely Mucky" or "Toast rules!" posts. I do not mean to be rude or critical, this is the perfect place for people who enjoy that and there is certainly much more that goes on. I just don't have the time or the energy or the love to contribute or enjoy other people's contributions anymore. If somebody could forward me the process for removing myself from the list, I would appreciate it. Before I go though, I would very much like to trade with someone for a copy of Glass Flesh. My parent branch had to leave (ooh, pardon the pun) and so I never got a chance to appreciate all of Bayard's fine work or all of the list's musical talent. I have a few Robyn shows, along with lots of rare b-sides I could tape in exchange for the tribute. -Michael ------------------------------ From: LORDK@FLP.LIB.PA.US Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:39:16 -0400 (EDT) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: baggy full glory Darlings, darlings, I knew the ladies aux. idea wouldnt fly in terms of guys voluntarily removing themselves for awhile, but may I point out that it appears to have served a greater purpose-- that of getting more females talking. And I hope no one will argue with that. My votes on Mucky, especially since he wants to be investigated, which would make being mucky the perfect conter reactionary defence mech. Yes, I know the above makes no sense, but I love proving an unprovable proposition. My theory on the baggy trousers(which he was born in) is that they have nothing to do with the big hands, but rather about self-consiousness. I like to think of him(which in no9 way applies to whatever real person it is who is carring around the name at the moment, but "him" as in the image within public mind-space we call Robyn)--anyway, I like to think of "him" as being abit of a paranoid exhibitionist, playing hide and seek with his(and our) hopes and fears. He wants us to notice those big hands(just look at the poster for GoF), and the baggy trousers. To see and not to see. My guess is, like most guys, hes somewhere between 6 and 8 inches, meduim thick. My guess is that the mythical "Robyn" is hung like a horse, but too self consious to show it off(someone might blow it away or something). However, once when drunk, he sent a xerox of it in full glory to Kate Bush, who promptly fainted, and hasnt been heard from since. Have a nice weekend, and by the way, you really are a nice bunch of people. Thanks for letting me play in your sandbox. Kay ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 14:42:40 -0400 (EDT) From: daramsey@vaxsar.vassar.edu (david spencer ramsey the first) Subject: Ummm.... To: IN@" fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu" I'm not saying this to be rude, and I'm not trying to offend or insult anybody, I am getting somewhat frustrated with finding 20 or so messages a day in my e-mail box that supposedly have something to do with Robyn Hitchcock, but in reality merely use Robyn as a jumping off point for talking about things that are completely unrelated or very slightly related to the man and his work. I admit that in the past I have been guilty of using this list for a non-Robyn post or two, but it just seems to me that the list has become a bit of a free-for-all... I'm tempted to slightly alter a phrase from the movie Bambi: "If you don't have anything relevant to say, don't say anything at all." Again, I'm not attempting to insult, offend, or be rude to anybody on this list...I'm simply encouraging people to remember that the purpose of the list is to discuss Robyn Hitchcock...at least that's what I thought when I signed on. daveR. ---there's only one way of life, and that's your own--- Levellers. ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 1995 14:40:37 -0500 From: "Wayne Grgurich" Subject: Re: chord request To: bing@student.umass.edu, "Society of Dark Birds" Well, you asked... 10/27/95 RE>chord request Chandler . . . Hmmmm, haven't played it in a while, and this is from memory (no guitar - I'm at work), but I think it's . . . intro: Bb-Bb-C-C (X 4) verse: Bb-Bb-C-C Bb-Bb-C-C Bb-Bb-C-C Bb-Gm-F-F... chorus: Gm-Bb-C-C Gm-Bb-C-C Gm-Gm-Bb-Bb F-F-C-C... Enjoy, - Mr. Science -------------------------------------- Date: 10/26/95 8:58 PM To: Wayne Grgurich From: bing@student.umass.edu Could someone post the chords to "airscape" and "Raymond Chandler Evening"? I've pretty much given up on "Ted,Woody, and junior", i'm afraid. Anyone had any luck with this one? Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 01:04:02 +0000 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: Jim Subject: fegographics me: Jim Bower age: Twenty eleven where: Collingham, near York and Leeds, Yorkshire, Eng-ger-land occupation: freelance writer/graphic designer vocation: (but for poor luck, laziness, tasteless record company execs and anything else I can think of to blame): Guitarist/songwriter/cult off-the-wall pop hero with interesting shirts (etc) fan since: whatever year 'Element of Light' was released favourite hitchcock: All Egyptians, especially respect/EOL Things I will never tire of saying or be dissuaded from saying: 1: Pint of Tetley's best bitter, please, mr.barman 2. Buy my CD, it's great. 3. 'Eye' is a poor album 4: Whereas 'in a previous life' by Freud Squad is marvellous (see 2) Glasses status: none, though glasses-wearing fegs are somehow forcing me to stare at a screen and type small words and I smell a plot! Invasion of the eyeball snatchers...they seek to create...one long pair of eyes...waaah... ************ Jim Bower ** ******** ** * * * """" """" * ** (@) (@) * *stop press* { ' ` } FREUD SQUAD CD DEFINITELY available THURSDAY 26TH OCT *l (oo) l* ....Please form an orderly queue l ' l )======( l l` ' l `________' l l ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 95 15:13:27 EDT From: Aidan Merritt <101356.2516@compuserve.com> To: Fegmaniax Subject: Positive Vibrations magazine I'm trying to decide whether to give _Positive Vibrations_ - the legendary, one-of-only-two-zines-ever-to-win-_Record Collector_-best fanzine-twice-and-the-other-was-_Amazing-Pudding_-which-had-20000-subscribers-and -ran-for-70-issues, Robyn Hitchcock fanzine, which none of you ever bother subscribing to, a parallel on-line service. Any comments on whether you'd like to see it at all, what you'd like to see in it or what you think of it (or of the bits that are on the www already, for all you non-subscribers) are very welcome. Love you all already (except the ones who keep sending me hate mail) Aidan Ways in which Robyn has introduced Kimberley at various reunion gigs since 1981: "Just in case we don't sound terrible, I'd like to welcome Kimberley on stage" "Ladies & gentlemen, here's Kimberley. Now we can relive some pecularly bad times and I'd like to share them with you" "In case it's not too noisy, here's Kimberley" (at bosnia benefit) "This is Peter Buck. Donate a pound and you can shake his hand. Kimberley'll take zlotys." Quotes of the last three months (1): Kimberley (natch) on _You & Oblivion_: "Nobody gives a shit. I _wrote_ half the tracks and I don't give a shit" Dan 'Television Personalities' Treacey at his last solo gig: "Where's the band? Who the fuck cares? Probably wanking somewhere. Probably over a picture of me" ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 95 15:13:18 EDT From: Aidan Merritt <101356.2516@compuserve.com> To: Fegmaniax Subject: Left or right handed? Right handed. Who the fuck cares, anyway? ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: Keeping score... Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 12:42:00 PDT According to my (highly random and subjective) study of those who have revealed themselves to the list so far I see : female: 15 male: 38 don't know: 0 This could only mean one of three things: 1) More than twice as many males as females admire RH (v. unlikely!) 3) More than half the males responding are _really_ female (possible, but improbable) 2) Males are more than twice as likely to talk about themselves as females (very likely!!!) Come on girls! Get posting and close that gender gap. We know you can do it! -nw Next: The "Fegmaniax Dating Service". Ah, I can just see it now... Any would-be matchmakers care to suggest good feg-characteristics to take special note of when pairing our clients? (I already have toast-preference on the list.) ( I also think pairing an EYE lover and a RESPECT preferrer would be asking for trouble) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 12:56:32 -0700 Subject: Re: baggy full glory From: Tom Clark To: , "fegManiax" Kay Surmised: > My guess is, like most guys, hes somewhere between 6 and 8 inches, > meduim thick. It seems you've been fortunate in your encounters; according to most research, the average is 5 to 6 inches. Not to start a new demographic thread or anything... -tc ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. "Knowledge Is Good" * tclark@apple.com -Emil Faber * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 95 15:49:13 EDT From: Daniel Ginsberg Subject: only if you have more time to waste online... To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu If any of you have lots of free time or need hourly updates as you wait for your digests to show, or whatever, I just registered #fegmaniax on AnotherNet. AnotherNet is a new, small, and thus fast set of public IRC servers. If you are interested, connect to server: orb.ar.us.another.org and join #fegmaniax. There is no Fegbot so if no one is on channel it wont show up on /list, but Chanserv has the channel held for us (unless no one uses the channel in 30 days, then it gets nuked). AnotherNet does not currently have any servers outside of the US and Canada, but if anyone has access to a T1 and a fast machine that could be remedied quickly. Dan ------------------------------ Date: 27 Oct 1995 16:56:27 -0500 From: "Wayne Grgurich" Subject: Re: not himmmmmm ! To: "Society of Dark Birds" REGARDING RE>not himmmmmm ! if I'm not too late . . . Me = Wayne F. Grgurich Sex = yes Gender = male Tempermanent Location = Pittsburgh, PA ExactAgeAsOf10/27/95 = 34.10 yrs. ThingThatMakesMeMoney = Lung Transplantation Coordinator, U. of Pittsburgh RestOfTheTime = breathe; think/observe; read; play/listen to music; eat/drink; read/delete endless Marks/Skaught e-mail ThingsIDig = slashes (/), evidently; my dear Lisa; autumn; East Grinstead; Mother Nature; heavy-gauge guitar strings; hummus; living 10:00am-4:00am; Mac computers; Syd; Concord grapes ThingsIAbhor = oppressive summer weather; proliferation of asinine commercials, TV talk shows, corporate sponsorship, illiterate local newscasters, etc. that contribute to the dumbing of America; earwigs; most Top 40 dreck; religion and it's effects; marriage/divorce; yuppie jazz; animal flesh; cult of celebrity Fan-aticSince = 1985 Glasses = yes, dammit, and I HATE 'em, since (sigh...) 11/93 Faves = Underwater Moonlight, "Bones in the Ground" ------------------------------ From: Beebster@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:03:15 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Keeping score... >This could only mean one of three things: >1) More than twice as many males as females admire RH (v. unlikely!) >3) More than half the males responding are _really_ female (possible, >but improbable) >2) Males are more than twice as likely to talk about themselves as >females (very likely!!!) > >Come on girls! Get posting and close that gender gap. We know you >can do it! OK, ok...I promised myself I wasn't going to do this. Every time I give in to the temptation of answering a demographics question on a mailing list, MY entry always gets followed by the tons of flame posts complaining about all the non-list-subject-content posts, and I end up feeling just AWFUL. But seeing as how Nick just dared all members of my gender to post, maybe all the flamers can blame him and not me?? I mean, I won't take up everybody's time with all the demographics information....I mean, like who REALLY cares that I'm 34, live near Chicago, not only wear glasses but the blasted things are BIFOCALS, and that I make my money by typing really, really fast and then spend it all on my record collection, ya know?? I'll just say that I really like Robyn Hitchcock a lot......... - Cath ; D ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:42:09 -0500 (CDT) From: Preety Gadhoke To: Our Flesh Cartoons Subject: notes on others' notes, with a dash of.... -Like the Bellman, I am glad to read such pleasant responses In fact, after tea and toast...a free trainride to Trinidad's on me (This time, it WILL be fun) -regarding the Gender Issue, my anthro prof. once told me that the term "issue" is overused in our generation of intellects, artists, cooks, robbers, etc. Sie hast recht! (she is right, for those who did not spend 4 years of high school watching Deutsche Direkt! and answering every question with: "Bratwurst") -To Gregory Shell: Did you say "Girls" or "pearls"? I think your free message might be slightly *vague* for some of us?><