Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 162 Today's Topics: ------- ------ morphologies Introducing - you! tapes and trading Spelling, Rew-Bangles connection et cetera click track in my skull? Spelling misteaks Statue and Mucky Leppo Marks "Mucky" Re: record labels & so forth Rout of Cones Re: "Mucky" mucky et. al. Re: Leppo Marks Re: mucky.. Jooves and Jets virtual robyn porcine contentions porcine contentions (fwd) "Bucky" and Paisley Re: record labels & so forth Re: record labels & so forth Re: The Big Boss Re: "Bucky" and Paisley Re: Bill Nelson Less is MOR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 18:26:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss Western Teen USA To: dennis Subject: morphologies sorry to post this to the list, but you know...yada yada. some person had posted the life cycle sort of dynamic of a listserv, it had about five steps... i was wondering if that person, wax or flesh, could mail it to me. it would be most appreciated and you'll earn cookie credit, wax cookies that is, by doing so. thanks, .chris ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (The list that invented itself) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 22:46:22 EDT Subject: Introducing - you! Daniel Saunders said: > A constant problem I have is that of running out of music to listen to, > since at this point in my life I don't really have a steady source of > income. So I often get albums out of the local public library. Boy, have you stumbled on a gold mine. Robyn's released enough material to keep you broke until you're 20! Then there's the stuff he hasn't released... > Then my aunt bought me "Queen Elvis" for my birthday (cool aunt) and I > loved that too, but unfortunately the cassette now screws up half way > into "Knife". Learn to splice tape. Then after you repair your cassette Terry can recruit you to reorder all the cuts on Robyn's old releases. I could once do this, but I'm now semi-retired. When I was young and foolish, I got my kicks out of trying to cut versions of songs as close as possible to the then-magic 3 minute mark. I did this to "Low Spark of High Heeled Boys". I'm sorry now. > So I've had relatively little experience with Robyn Hitchcock, but I'm > definitely looking to expand my collection. I'd appreciate it if > everyone could e-mail me with their favourite albums. Have you been set up to this by some bored feg? We were at each other's throats over this topic just a couple of weeks ago. Check the fegmaniax www page for the results of this futile exercise. > My favourite songs so far are "My wife and my dead wife", "I'm only > you", "Wax doll", and "The Devil's coachman". Here we go again ... > Ever notice how seemingly nonsensical songs often have a lot more to say > about real life than mainstream songs that at first glance are more down > to earth? Try comparing "Just another bubble" with Bon Jovi's > recent hit "I will always love you". Jeez, do I have to ? > -- > Daniel pointy daggery Saunders > And still mysteries abound... PS: I haven't been able to convert any friends to fegmania after years of trying. REMEMBER .. We are your only true friends. We suffer with you. Welcome to fegmaniax! -- ROSS OVERBURY (insert nom-de-plume here) INTERNET: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ From: Algae99@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 23:08:08 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: tapes and trading Hello my fellow lemmings. I am fresh and new to the list, glad to be here. I am wanting some new material by our mutual friend. I wish I had more to trade than what I have, but maybe it will be bait enough to hook someone. My only rare stuff is the "I Something You" (probably not rare in these parts), and a concert tape from Cincinnati, Ohio, from October 20, 1990, the night the Reds won the Series. I had the rare privelage at being at this show, and apparently the guy nest to me was the one booting it, because one can hear me talking on it at show's end. There are also a couple of other songs on it, such as Strawberry Fields and Octopus. Any takers with something to trade, e-mail me, and we can set something up. Thanks for all the fish, James ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:55:53 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: Brenda shovelling on the wurst Subject: Spelling, Rew-Bangles connection et cetera PENANCE, not pennance SUSANNA HOFFS, not Susan Hoff (I wonder whether there is an H in Susannah) MOREY AMSTERDAM not Mory Yes, the Bangles did record Kimberley Rew's Going down to Liverpool to do nothing. It was a hit in the UK, but not elsewhere where people didn't know what a UB40 was (it is an unemployement benefit form). Why would Kimberley Rew want to have one band name in the UK and another worldwide? Is it a deal like Benson & Hedges which used to be made by BAT in the UK and Imperial Tobacco elsewhere, or what? All I know about Morey Amsterdam is that he used to be in the Dick van Dyke Show with Mary Tyler Moore, Rose Marie and Dick van Dyke, but that was a while back. Is there something else I should know? - Mike (Color - sorry, Colour - Out Of Space) Godwin PS Thanks for the Roback brothers info: David had already split at the tiem I saw them, band they were still pretty good.. Any news of the other guitarist, Matt Piozzi? ------------------------------ From: gene@cadmus.com Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 08:53:31 PDT Subject: click track in my skull? To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Alrighty. So I listening, with much glee and abandon to the Rhino Invisible Hitchcock release, right? And I get to "A Skull, A Suitcase, And A Long Red Bottle Of Wine", which is one of my faves, and being a particularly detail-oriented listener, I'm reveling in the better bass, the tighter guitar, and in general, the lack of aural mush that the original release was full of. But hey, what's this? An odd clicking sound, which drags about half a second behind Morris' high-hat. Is that an echo on the high-hat, or a click track, or just a hallucination brought about by radish overconsumption? Anybody have a clue? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:39:32 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: The feisty barbel and the gruesome tench Subject: Spelling misteaks Jonathan Turner reminds me that the Rain Parade guitarist's name is MATT PIUCCI not Matt Piozzi More errors next week - Niwdog (Ecaps Fo Tuo Roloc) Ekim ------------------------------ From: jimm@dbu.edu Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 09:25:00 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Statue and Mucky Thanks to all of you who gave me advise about the Robyn CD sampler. I found it for around $10.00 -- and since I had a little extra cash I decided to buy it. It arrived yesterday and I must say that Statue W/ A Walkman REALLY made me laugh. Robyn's "old country man" accent is hilarious! Did his banter have a similar effect on anyone else? I haven't decided if the one song is worth the price of the CD -- but I do think that it is better than some of the songs on "Y & O". On another note, who or what is "Mucky the pig". I noticed that this character appears on "Queen of Eyes" as well as "There's Nobody Like You". Can anyone enlighten me on this? Thanks, Beaker "Stationary Dude" Moore ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:46:53 +0100 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: Jim Subject: Leppo Marks There was Groucho, Chico, Harpo...er...and Karl. Plus, of course, Terry. But am I right in saying there was a Marx brother called Leppo? And if so, what happened to him...perhaps, and this is a big perhaps, PERHAPS, he retired to Florida. Well, its possible. And he could have changed the spelling of his last name to avoid detection. Maybe. Or there may be some sort of astral ley-line UFO crop circleish kind of strange paranormal-type phenomenonny thing going on linking Robyn with Terry himself. Leppo Marks. Makes you think, eh? Plus there is the word 'Jooves' itself, which is a derivation of the latin "Joovus" meaning "one who obsessively tabulates." One more thought: do you free a Florida person using Florida Keys? Hyperthalimuses open to the wind, ************ Jim Bower ** ******** ** * * * """" """" * ** (@) (@) * *Advertisement* { ' ` }Iminent Freud Squad CD still nearly almost available soon(ish) *l (oo) l* ........you KNOW you want one! (I know I do) l ' l )======( l l` ' l `________' l l ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 10:06:54 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: "Mucky" Beaker asks: ----------------------------------- who or what is "Mucky the pig". I noticed that this character appears on "Queen of Eyes" as well as "There's Nobody Like You". Can anyone enlighten me on this? ----------------------------------- I contend that the pig's name is "Bucky" and I'd stake my fully autographed Can Of Bees album on that. Someone else on this list (someone trapped in Florida, I believe) thinks it's "Lucky". Another person thought it was "Murphy", and now we have "Mucky." Can we settle this one? As to where this character came from, that's one I'd like to find out from Robyn himself. (Whatever became of the "virtual interview", Woj?) -Russ. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 09:18:32 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: record labels & so forth To: jimm@dbu.edu Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > I was looking at the sleeve of Respect last night and I noticed >that Robyn did some of the production/mixing at Real World Studios. I'm a >Peter Gabriel fan and so that name rung a bell with me.... Real World >Records and Real World Studios are PG's concoction--stemming from his work >with WOMAD (the world music scene). PG's plan is to represent bands and >artists from around the world--and to give them a platform where they can >make their voices heard when they would otherwise probably not be given the >opportunity. PG taking up the "White Man's Burden"....sorry, but PG has been on an ego kick starting with So....there was a great review of his show in town a while back...the reviewer got backstage to meet PG and was awaiting this opportunity to meet a musical god....PG shows up with sweat-soaked tights and noticable Now a RH and Eno or RH and Daniel Lanois collaboration would be kinda cool jay >Beaker %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 10:03:26 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Rout of Cones To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu If anyone is interested, the Houston record shop "Soundwaves" on Westheimer and Montrose has one cd copy of Rout of Cones for about 18 bucks...they will do mail order if you call them... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:51:45 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: "Mucky" To: RREYNOLD@ksjo.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >----------------------------------- >who or what is "Mucky the pig". I noticed that >this character appears on "Queen of Eyes" as well as "There's Nobody Like >You". Can anyone enlighten me on this? >----------------------------------- > >I contend that the pig's name is "Bucky" and I'd stake my fully autographed >Can Of Bees album on that. Someone else on this list (someone trapped in >Florida, I believe) thinks it's "Lucky". Another person thought it was >"Murphy", and now we have "Mucky." > I think its Stuckies the Pig named after the chain of highway roadstop-pecanlog vendors.... FYI: Outside of Austin in San Marcos they have a place called Aquarina Springs a pretty cheesie resort and home of Ralph the Swimming Pig....he runs up a diving board and dives into a pool and swims around....pretty frightening stuff if you drink properly.... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:15:36 EDT From: "woj at work" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: mucky et. al. Russ Reynolds sez: >Can we settle this one? i've always heard mucky as well, but my ears aren't (and weren't) what they were. >(Whatever became of the "virtual interview", Woj?) good question. the last i heard was that robyn was going to be working on the answers after the march/april northeast american gigs. obviously, that is not what happened. i believe he got the questions, but i haven't heard anything since. i'll look into that this weekend. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:40:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Horselover Phat To: exterminating angelfish Subject: Re: Leppo Marks On Fri, 20 Oct 1995, Jim wrote: > There was Groucho, Chico, Harpo...er...and Karl. actually, it was larry, moe, curly, shemp and leppo. that's right: lep lep leppo and the stoo stoo stoo stoo stoo stoo stooges. _________ MOONBOOTS MOONBOOTS MOON. ("i'm hol ding out for a spa ceman"). ------------------------------ From: bing@student.umass.edu Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:24:15 -0400 Subject: Re: mucky.. To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On my "so UN-definitive version it hurts" version of "Queen of Eyes" I said "Lucky." listening to _Underwater Moonlight_ it still sounds that way. "Lucky" is such a good name for a pig-- i think we should just say it's "lucky", whether it is or not. bradley ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 12:26:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber To: "It's a Mystic List" Subject: Jooves and Jets Does anyone know... ...did "Lep-lep-leppo and the Joo-joo-joo-joo-joo-joo-joo-jooves" ever tour with "B-b-benny and the Jetsssssss"? Just wondering. Slante, ***Quotation of the week:*** "Outside of a dog, a book is Glen E. Uber a man's best friend; inside of University of Washington a dog, it's too dark to read." Departments of Linguistics --Groucho Marx and Germanics **************************** Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu hirsute@becker.u.washington.edu arrow@bbs.nwconnect.net Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:37:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: "vyrna's iron bowler" Subject: virtual robyn the virtual interview questions are interesting, but what about the actual robyn online irc chat? Andy, I believe you were pondering this? Would he ever consent to such a thing? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 15:52:34 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: porcine contentions >I contend that the pig's name is "Bucky" and I'd stake my fully >autographed Can Of Bees album on that. Someone else on this list >(someone trapped in Florida, I believe) thinks it's "Lucky". Another >person thought it was >"Murphy", and now we have "Mucky." > >Can we settle this one? i'm putting my vote in for "mucky". ken ------------------------------ From: treefrog@netcom.com (Edward of Sim) Subject: porcine contentions (fwd) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 13:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Forwarded message: > >I contend that the pig's name is "Bucky" and I'd stake my fully > >autographed Can Of Bees album on that. Someone else on this list > >(someone trapped in Florida, I believe) thinks it's "Lucky". Another > >person thought it was > >"Murphy", and now we have "Mucky." > > > >Can we settle this one? > > i'm putting my vote in for "mucky". > > ken I have always heard it as "Bucky," very clearly. peace Edward -- Edward of Sim treefrog@netcom.com "But remember when you're out there, trying to heal the sick, that you must always first forgive them." - RZ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 16:10:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Frankel Subject: "Bucky" and Paisley To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Count my vote for Bucky rather than Mucky! RE: Robyn's alleged comment that he wrote Balloon Man for the Bangles, it must be an allusion to "Going down to Liverpool," written by his old bandmate. Actually, the first 2 Bangles albums were pretty good...they started going downhill after their interlude with the artist then known as Prince. There were a lot of good bands in the LA area in the early 80's which were given the unfortunate tag of "Paisley Underground." The first Dream Syndicate and first 2 Rain Parade albums were great, and bands like True West, the Long Ryders, and Green on Red were good as well, certainly better than the "New Romanticism" move- ment coming out of England at that time! BTW I think that Matt Piucci of the Rain Parade made an album with Crazy Horse a few years ago... Ken Frankel ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:20:49 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: record labels & so forth To: walden@universe.digex.net Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >From: IN%"walden@universe.digex.net" "Bayard" 20-OCT-1995 13:15:36.67 >Subj: RE: record labels & so forth > >> back...the reviewer got backstage to meet PG and was awaiting this opportunity >> to meet a musical god....PG shows up with sweat-soaked tights and noticable > >noticable what?? Looks like UH is having VAX problems today....as I thought I said...noticable panty lines...well this was a moment of horror for her and her conclusion was to never to aspire to meet your heros while they're still in tights... ...and I would like to ammend my earlier critical statement of PG's work...I do think that the soundtrack to Last Temptation is remarkable... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:23:10 -0400 From: beach house tiki god To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: record labels & so forth >>>PG shows up with sweat-soaked tights and noticable >>noticable what?? >Looks like UH is having VAX problems today....as I thought I said...noticable >panty lines...well this was a moment of horror for her and her conclusion was >to never to aspire to meet your heros while they're still in tights... men's underwear shows lines too, bub. at least he was wearing some - i'd rather see panty lines than the definition of his...package. ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 14:41:27 -0700 Subject: Re: The Big Boss From: Tom Clark To: "Russ Reynolds" , "fegManiax" >Some day when I rule the world I'm going to make sure that everybody >everywhere is forced to listen to the same music and all my favourite songs >will be constantly blaring out of these huge speakers--indoors, outdoors, on >the telephone, along the freeways--so that no matter where you are you'll be >unable to escape whatever song is playing. Mostly I'll just play Robyn >Hitchcock. > > -Russ. Gee, you _really do_ work in commercial radio, huh? ;-) -tc ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. "Knowledge Is Good" * tclark@apple.com -Emil Faber * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 15:48:05 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: "Bucky" and Paisley To: FRANKEL@ACC.FAU.EDU Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > > Count my vote for Bucky rather than Mucky! RE: > Robyn's alleged comment that he wrote Balloon > Man for the Bangles, it must be an allusion to > "Going down to Liverpool," written by his old > bandmate. Actually, the first 2 Bangles albums > were pretty good...they started going downhill > after their interlude with the artist then known > the LA area in the early 80's which were given But as far as 80's chick groups go, noone comes close to Bananarama...where's my Venus cd?...oh, well, I'll just turn on the radio and listen to Lump for the 500th time today... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: beach house tiki god Cc: Vyrna Knowl Subject: Re: Bill Nelson Date: Fri, 20 Oct 95 15:14:00 PDT woj - thanks for that tip for the Bill Nelson Web site. Seems I have alot of catching up to do (not to mention more than a few albums!). In a transcript of a 1994 interview I found this very Robynesque reference which I thought I'd share with the list... JJ : Okay, Bill, thank you for your time. One last question. With all this experience, what's the best advice you would give to those wanting to release their own record? BN : Just go ahead and do it. Ignore the constraints of the 'system' and just make yourself heard. Keep a good head and always carry a light bulb. Good advice for an artist in search of a label? -Nick "gotta light bulb mate?" Winkworth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 17:41:23 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jh3@ns.cencom.net (JH3, Inc.) Subject: Less is MOR Dear Fegs: I don't know just how many of you out there are Sherlockians or vice-versa, but I thought I'd put in one last word on this business of Conan-Doyle and "MOR." We mustn't overlook the following Conan-Doyle characters: The Countess of Morcar, owner of the "Blue Carbuncle"; Alice Morphy and her father, Professor Morphy, in "The Creeping Man"; Annie Morrison, the name on the note that lured William Kirwin to his death in "The Reigate Squires"; and of course, Mary Morstan, the client in "The Sign of Four," whose father Capt. Arthur Morstan was, in fact, one of the four. Most notably, Mary Morstan later married Dr. Watson, thus becoming Mrs. Watson, all of whose children were certified insane. (And I want her.) But enough about Conan-Doyle; I also subscribe to "Hounds of the Internet," and the whole thing was getting very confusing, and I'm not sure I even want to bring it up again since the subject seems to have died. If we're going to talk mystery writers, I think we should be discussing Raymond Chandler, or perhaps more appropriately, John Cornell Woolrich. Born in 1904 under the star-sign of Sagittarius, John Cornell Woolrich, though not acheiving the kind of literary notoriety that his colleague, Raymond Chandler, achieved, nonetheless wrote a series of spine-tingling short stories that to this day leave a livid scar on the reader's imagination... stories like "Rear Window"... "The Dancing Detective"... and "Did She Really Die So Horribly?" All bear out a certain macabre movement inside the eye of a frightened reader as she or he lies alone in the bedroom at night, the windows half-closed but still fluttering under the tawdry orange street lamp coming in and the occasional fruit lobbed onto the floor by thoughtless party-goers on their way back home... Not to mention the artemises of World-War I fighters long since apparently grounded but which had later been in extremely desirable vogue, sometimes building up into huge, pyramid-like mounds at the foot of the bed, making it almost impossible to get up in the morning... For instance, the other day I could hardly get out of bed, I was covered in rotting, pre-World War I machinery... Fortunately, being rustproof, I borrowed Dad's old nice (transcription a bit garbled here) sheets and met a very old wizened man... "Tell me, old man," I said, "Why have you lived so long and done so little?" He conserved energy, I suspect, for he never replied... -JH3 [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...