Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 161 Today's Topics: ------- ------ i propose a TOAST Re: i propose a TOAST Introducing - me! Mortal stumps Mor trivia Re: Mor trivia Re: i propose a TOAST Re: Mor trivia Mor Than This Re: i propose a TOAST Re: Robyn On VH1 UK Anglepoise lamps encore une fois; psychedelia rain parade Re: rain parade temporarily blonded Re: MOR[E] Pyschedelic bands Re: fegmania! Rock Names Re: sexuality terry marks and internal vibration record labels & so forth FW: Rock Names The Big Boss Robyn on TV FW: record labels & so forth ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 17:52:19 -0600 (MDT) From: Horselover Phat To: Mark Gloster cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: i propose a TOAST On 17 Oct 1995, Mark Gloster wrote: > voices, fingers and fish of the next musical wave), and how all of this > relates to ROBIN HITCHCOCK. I apparently have some difficulty resisting ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ whoa. trouble. is this somehow indicative of our priorities around here? Notice that Mark had no trouble spelling Terry Marks's name correctly a few lines above this. not that i care, mind you--i think it's invaluable that there is a group of people on the planet who wouldn't blink a (collective) EYE (hey look: robyn content) if, suddenly, i were to yell DIPOLE ANISOTROPY! zach _________ MOONBOOTS MOONBOOTS MOON. ("i'm hol ding out for a spa ceman"). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 18:38:08 -0700 Subject: Re: i propose a TOAST From: Tom Clark To: "Horselover Phat" , "Mark Gloster" , "fegManiax" On 18 Oct 1995, zach careened out of control by stating: >On 17 Oct 1995, Mark Gloster wrote: > >> voices, fingers and fish of the next musical wave), and how all of this >> relates to ROBIN HITCHCOCK. I apparently have some difficulty resisting > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > whoa. trouble. is this somehow indicative of our priorities >around here? Notice that Mark had no trouble spelling Terry Marks's name >correctly a few lines above this. > > not that i care, mind you--i think it's invaluable that there is a >group of people on the planet who wouldn't blink a (collective) EYE (hey >look: robyn content) if, suddenly, i were to yell > > DIPOLE ANISOTROPY! > > zach I must come to the defense of my colleague on the 4th floor by stating that zach's sarcasm firewall did not have a hole punched in it for Mr. Gloster's port. The caps are a dead giveaway... -tc ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. "Knowledge Is Good" * tclark@apple.com -Emil Faber * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* ------------------------------ From: dsaunder@islandNet.com (Daniel Saunders) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Introducing - me! Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 18:51:34 -0800 Hello, I'm new to this mailing list (what are are these strangers doing in my mail box?!) and I thought I'd just say a bit about who I am and how I got to know Robyn Hitchcock 'n' the Egyptians. My name is Daniel Saunders, I'm 15 years old and a fan of slightly off-kilter rock music. A constant problem I have is that of running out of music to listen to, since at this point in my life I don't really have a steady source of income. So I often get albums out of the local public library. Unfortunately it has a very limited and bizarre selection (how about four copies of "Hangin' Tough" and "Please Hammer Don't Hurt Them" and absolutely nothing by They Might Be Giants?). One day I was browsing through the catalogue, looking for something new, when I came across an LP of "Fegmania", by you-know-who. I took it home and I found that I really enjoyed Robyn's particular brand of twisted, upbeat pop a lot. Then my aunt bought me "Queen Elvis" for my birthday (cool aunt) and I loved that too, but unfortunately the cassette now screws up half way into "Knife". So I've had relatively little experience with Robyn Hitchcock, but I'm definitely looking to expand my collection. I'd appreciate it if everyone could e-mail me with their favourite albums. My favourite songs so far are "My wife and my dead wife", "I'm only you", "Wax doll", and "The Devil's coachman". Ever notice how seemingly nonsensical songs often have a lot more to say about real life than mainstream songs that at first glance are more down to earth? Try comparing "Just another bubble" with Bon Jovi's recent hit "I will always love you". -- Daniel pointy daggery Saunders And still mysteries abound... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 15:03:39 +1200 To: The veins of Her Majesty the Queen From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Mortal stumps while carrening down the Andes on a cardboard toboggan, I psychically sensed that Mike stated: >I was struck when reading the recent posting about Conan Doyle how keen >he is on villainous names beginning with MOR. just confirming, it comes from the old Mort- meaning death, so it's connected with all sorts of, erm, deadly things. One of the world's oldest words, mort. We still use it in things like Mortuary, it is the Mat of Shah-mat "The King Is Dead" in Persian, which we hear in the chess term Checkmate. It even spread east from the Sanskrit mother tongue into southeast Asia and from there to the Pacific. The Maori word for dead is "Mate" (rugby fans will recognise this from the All Black's traditional haka "Ka Mate"). But I regress. >Come on your stump.... "If I were man enough I'd... come on, Yorstumph!" Robyn interrupts his singing to encourage a slow Mongolian runner in the London Marathon. >Also, the Roman personification of Death was called Mors. did you say Morris? James ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 95 22:18:00 EDT From: Daniel Ginsberg Subject: Mor trivia To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu If ya wanna know anything re Tolkein, then check old Icelandic. JRT was a scholar of Norse mythology and his serious scholarship provided the literary mulch fer his fiction. All of which drags us a long way, methinks, from unca bob..... dan On the turntable today: 2 books and some old, cold pizza.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 19:33:09 -0700 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) To: DGINSBER%UConnVM.UConn.Edu@RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Mor trivia The "mor" in Mordor is from the Sindarin word meaning "black". It is not related to the Latin or Greek words beginning in "mor-". Since this note currently has zero Robyn content, I'll increase it by saying that "Nothing" "Captain Dry" and "Victorian Squid" are proof that _You & Oblivion_ is not as dull an album as it is commonly claimed to be. - David Librik librik@cs.Berkeley.edu ------------------------------ Date: 18 Oct 1995 19:50:49 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Re: i propose a TOAST To: "fegManiax" , "Horselover Phat" , "Tom Clark" Reply to: RE>>i propose a TOAST >> whoa. trouble... >> zach >I must come to the defense of my colleague on the 4th floor... >-tc I am typing this from under my desk, where I must remain for a pennance of my typing/spelling skills. I used to be one of the greatest spellers in Reno, if you leave out the sagebrush that always ruined the curve for the rest of us. No, tc, I was being a lateworking feeble custard-convolutioned veggiebrain. Thanks for the benefit of the doubt for my intellectual skills, real or imagined. Confession: I spelled his name wrong, but didn't mean to. I don't really think I'm a complete moron, but that seems to be a fairly dominant gene at times. This is not the first time that I have been correctly accused of misspelling Robyn's name on this maillist. Actually everyone's been pretty nice about it. Smiles, -Mrak Gtoastler "hukd ahn fonix" Please read my new book: _Better Spelling Through Sleep Deprivation_ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 23:33:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Mor trivia To: David Librik Cc: DGINSBER%UConnVM.UConn.Edu@RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Wed, 18 Oct 1995, David Librik wrote: > Since this note currently has zero Robyn content, I'll increase it by > saying that "Nothing" "Captain Dry" and "Victorian Squid" are proof that > _You & Oblivion_ is not as dull an album as it is commonly claimed to be. Hmm Nothing: Sounds as if he had a chorus and no verses to this song.. Captain Dry: Great song. *Really* stupid distortion. Victorian Squid: You can sing it to the bassline of Van Morrisson's "Brown Eyed Girl", you know. I say Surgery, You & Me and Fiend before the shrine are the reasons why it isn't that bad Terry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 20:40:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber To: Uncle Reg Subject: Mor Than This On 18 Oct 1995, Mark Gloster (most likely without realizing) wrote: > I don't really think I'm a complete moron,... ^^^^^ ^^^^^ Is it any coincidence that Mark uses MORon to describe himself instead of idiot or some other such term? I think not! Slante, ***Quotation of the week:*** "Outside of a dog, a book is Glen E. Uber a man's best friend; inside of University of Washington a dog, it's too dark to read." Departments of Linguistics --Groucho Marx and Germanics **************************** Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu hirsute@becker.u.washington.edu arrow@bbs.nwconnect.net Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ From: bing@student.umass.edu Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 23:53:47 -0400 Subject: Re: i propose a TOAST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu "sleep"? Holy cow, I forgot all about that... Bradley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 21:36:56 -0700 From: Don Reid Subject: Re: Robyn On VH1 UK To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu <---- Begin Included Message ----> Marcus Slade said, They even showed a small clip of the film of A Man With A Lightbulb Head (the only time i have ever seen any of this film!). <---- End Included Message ----> If you want to see the entire film, try to find the video, "Brenda Of The Lightbulb Eyes" It has "The Man With The Lightbulb Head" film plus videos of other songs. It came out in 1989 from A&M video. I'm not sure if it's still available, but try to find it. It's very good. Don Reid ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 11:16:57 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: Brenda shovelling on the wurst Subject: Anglepoise lamps encore une fois; psychedelia Epsiode 1 of a longish ramble: The man with the lightbulb head video is included in the Gotta Let This Hen Out video, available from Mrs Wafflehead for 13 pounds or 25 dollars (NB US imperialism prevents me from using a poound sign on ASCII). It features an attractive sequence of courting anglepoise lamps frolicking in Robyn's bedroom. Unfortuantely I don't know enough about sexual dimorphism among anglepoises to distinguish which one makes the first approach. There is also footage of RH walking about wearing a lampshade, which didn't fool me into thinking his head had turned into a lightbulb - it might deceive some, but not dedicated fegs. Episode 2 of a l.r.: Psychedelia: I think that Syd Barrett, Jimi Hendrix and the Grateful Dead are clear psychedelic influences on RH. Numbers like I'm Only You, and some of those noodling instrumentals in four parts, are about as psychedelic as you can get. However, he has plenty of non-psychedelic influences too: Bob Dylan is not psychedelic (except possibly for Highway 61 Revisited), neither are Brian (Biryani Ferret) Ferry or Steeleye Span. Maybe this label got attached because at the time the Soft Boys came out, everybody else was strongly anti-psychedelic (Elvis Costello, Graham Parker, Ian Dury, Johnny Rotten, the Feelgoods and so on). It was unfashionable even to admit those influences (has anyone seen those 'hippy' photos of Elvis Costello with really long hair, circa 1973 - amusing or what!). The psychedelic influence was the most obvious symptom of the unusualness of the Soft Boys, and the tag has stuck ever since. Incidentally, there is no way that Lou Reed is or has ever been psychedelic - he hates that stuff and always has: see Bockris's account of the Velvets in San Francisco. I am not too sure that the Doors qualify either: they don't jam or noodle around two modal chords in the required aimless manner. The last unequivocally psychedelic band I saw was the RAIN PARADE, a band who used to hang out with the Bangles. Whatever happened to them? Episode 3 (mercifully brief) Talking of the Bangles, does anyone else remember RH saying that he wrote Balloon Man for the Bangles to record, but they rejected it? I remember him saying this at a solo gig in Bristol in 1987... - Mike (Color Out Of Space) Godwin Postlude: thanks to Jeffrey, Bayard and Glen for MOR explanations. I stand reproved by Terry Marks for deviation on this issue, but I got the info I wanted. When in need of useless information, I ask fegMANIAX first! "It's a gloom that congeals, so greasy and thick..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 07:13:32 -0400 From: beach house tiki god To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: rain parade M R Godwin sez: >The last unequivocally psychedelic band I saw was the RAIN >PARADE, a band who used to hang out with the Bangles. Whatever happened to >them? the brothers roback split. the one that is not named david went on to form viva saturn who had one decent album a few years back and have recently or will soon release another album about which the rumors are good. the one that is named david went on to form opal with kendra smith (who, once upon a time, was the bassist in the dream syndicate along with david). opal latter metamorphed into mazzy star when kendra blew the coop and the tempestuous hope sandoval stepped in. woj ps. oh yeah, the other brother is named steven. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:55:35 BST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: rain parade At 07:13 AM 19/10/95 -0400, beach house tiki god wrote: >the brothers roback split. the one that is not named david went on to >form viva saturn who had one decent album a few years back and have >recently or will soon release another album about which the rumors are >good. the new Viva Saturn is called "Brightside", Ptolemaic Terrascope sez "perky power pop with a haunting undertow" and who am I to argue ? Especially since I haven't heard it. Apologies for my last post having no subject line; call it "Peripatetic Vibrations" if you need a name for filing purposes. They're always keen for articles if anyone fancies writing something for the mag. Jonathan. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 14:48:59 BST From: Jim.Davies@comlab.ox.ac.uk To: jturner@rpms.ac.uk Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: temporarily blonded From: Jonathan Word from the temporarily-blond Aidan Merritt, former editor of "Positive Vibrations" magazine is that he's handed over the reins of power to some other kindly souls. Nope. Some kindly souls. Ain't no other. That Aidan, he sure weren't kind. We've heard that the band wished him to be kindly disposed (of). He almost ended up in Camden Lock after the Jongleurs gig. And his hair is not so much blond as industrial yellow. All that body and no head and shoulders. Natch thatch, he was at the organic yellow Copey gig, which was 100% brilliant. In my umber opinion. The new Kimberley Rew album is out, as "Rew and Leskanich" in the UK and "Katrina and the Waves" in the rest of the world, news again from AM. Has anyone heard it yet? I'm intrigued. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 09:20:06 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: MOR[E] To: walden@universe.digex.net Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >> I was struck when reading the recent posting about Conan Doyle how keen >> he is on villainous names beginning with MOR. MORiarty we all know about, >> but I had forgotten Colonel MORan. J R R Tolkien has been criticised for >> having his bad guys come from the land of MORdor, which one critic said >> was obviously based on MURder, but I don;t think it is. Can any of you >> Lit and Lang fegs suggest what it is that is so MORbid, MORose, MORtifying >> and MORdant about this syllable? Two words: Mory Amsterdam who do you think always put that ottoman in front of Rob? enough said %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ From: jpartridge@accel.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 12:46:18 EST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Pyschedelic bands Mmmm, Rain Parade... I liked them quite a bit. They were connected to that Rainy Day compilation via Kendra Smith I think. Which brings another Psychedelic band to mind: The Three O'Clock and another Bangles connection: Michael Quercio was previously in a band with what's her name - Susan Hoff (sp?) - from before she started the Bangles. I saw a connection graph of the LA band scene once and it was incredibly incestuous. Of course then there's the Bangles cover of Kimberly Rew's "Going Down to Liverpool". I was always hoping these connections would finally become circular with Robyn covering Walk Like An Egyptian. Wait a minute, it *was* The Bangles who covered Going Down to Liverpool wasn't it? Or am I mixing it all up? My brain's giving way these days. Not in itself bad - it's just so unpredictable. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 10:17:42 -0700 Subject: Re: fegmania! From: Tom Clark To: "ostrander" , "fegManiax" >"what is fegmania? it has come for your sister. also for your husband, >that kindly man with something poking out of his head. it has come for >your arms, and it will change your concept of hygiene. it may be the >sound of a plane crash-landing in a ploughed field, or salad cream being >tipped out of an attic window. there are stars, minds and judges - >people in scarlet rags that pull frogs out of each others' mouths. >FEGMANIA RISES! light pulsing from a bruised sun that eats into tired >rugs. light coursing from a swarming moon that careens in frozen exstasy >across the sky - naked people oozing on warm mud with the radio tuned to >venus. here is music to implode by. here is FEGMANIA! a turnip in a >silver box. a dromedary lurching through the house of commons. a bank >manager shooting himself in the navel with a water-pistol. a royal >baby with permanent amnesia. a vampire at the ***cenotaph***. respectable >people with uncontrollable urges, freed only by the disconnection of >their hands. a nun writing her name in marmalade on a soldier's leg. >one word." For the curious: cen.o.taph \'sen-*-.taf\ n : a tomb or a monument erected in honor of a person whose body is elsewhere ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. "Knowledge Is Good" * tclark@apple.com -Emil Faber * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* ------------------------------ From: ZeroSummer@aol.com Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 14:06:57 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Rock Names The second (I think) edition of something called Rock Names (also I think) is out. Has this been covered before? The book traces the origin of tons of rock bands' names. Most listings run a few lines, while the most important (say, The Beatles) might run a page and a half. The Soft Boys entry, which also covers the Egyptians, is a solid four pages long, perhaps the longest in the book. It's nothing we haven't heard from Robyn before, although I've never heard him talk so enthusiastically about Anubis and Thoth and the feather of truth and whatnot. ------------------------------ From: jimm@dbu.edu Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 15:06:00 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: sexuality terry marks and internal vibration Terry Marks wrote: >Terry "Thinking that Mr. Deadly, The Devil's Coachman, Some Body and >Falling Leaves are *very* underappreciated" Marks. > >ps I think that Some Body is great and Beatlesque. Does anyone agree? ================================================================= I can't believe I'm actually writing to the legend himself--Terry Marks! I'm quivering with expectation--or is that just my vertigo acting up again. I, for one, (and for seven) love Mr. Deadly--and I also agree with your evaluation of Some Body. On a scale between 1 and 10 I'd rate Mr. Deadly a sure 8, (the square root of 64 for you math majors) (the square root of 3 for you non-math majors) and I'd rate Some Body somewhere between pi and the hypotenuse of a non-right triangle. I do have a question, though... Is Robyn saying: "All my vinyl children will be sticky little mushrooms in a field" or.... "All my final children.... Or, perhaps he's saying: "All my Rhino children..... Nevertheless, I think it is a great song--it has that certain cryptic mood that goes well with a good fit of depression.... CATHARSIS!!! Beaker The subhuman lap dulcimer ------------------------------ From: jimm@dbu.edu Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 15:29:00 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: record labels & so forth I was looking at the sleeve of Respect last night and I noticed that Robyn did some of the production/mixing at Real World Studios. I'm a Peter Gabriel fan and so that name rung a bell with me.... Real World Records and Real World Studios are PG's concoction--stemming from his work with WOMAD (the world music scene). PG's plan is to represent bands and artists from around the world--and to give them a platform where they can make their voices heard when they would otherwise probably not be given the opportunity. All that to say, Woj: do you know if Robyn has been in contact with Real World for a possible record deal? Would he consider it? Would they consider him? I can't think of anyone better to represent Jolly Old England on the "world music label" than Mr. Deadly himself! Beaker ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: FW: Rock Names Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 13:44:00 PDT On Thursday, October 19, an anononmous (to my mailreader) feglistperson informed: >The second (I think) edition of something called Rock Names (also I think) is >out. [...snipped...] The Soft Boys entry, which also covers the Egyptians, is >a solid four pages long, Sounds intriguing. Anyone have more details? Publisher? Author? ISBN? Thanks. -nw ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 16:03:45 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: The Big Boss Some day when I rule the world I'm going to make sure that everybody everywhere is forced to listen to the same music and all my favourite songs will be constantly blaring out of these huge speakers--indoors, outdoors, on the telephone, along the freeways--so that no matter where you are you'll be unable to escape whatever song is playing. Mostly I'll just play Robyn Hitchcock. -Russ. iwannabeabossiwannabeabigbossiwannabosstheworldaroundiwannabethebiggestbosst hateverbossedtheworldaround ------------------------------ From: plate@shadow.net Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 20:01:26 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Robyn on TV Peter B. has finally has something to say, about a recollection of Robyn making a mysterious and sudden appearance on the local TV news about 2 years ago. I'm still nursing the wounds I inflicted upon myself fot not taping it. He was at some celeb studded party at a nightspot on Miami Beach. Someone must have pointed him out as a famous person, beacuse the power suited TV news shrew descended upon him for a man on the street interview. She said "This is ... uh ... musician Robyn Hitchcock. " (Not poseesing a clue as to his true identity) She proceeded to barrage him with questions about the party, etc., to which he responded by rooting through her purse. He took out her lipstick, carefully applied it, pursed his lips and said something like. "That's how you do it, isn't it?" She looked at RH like she had her left foot in a bucket of clams, and unfortunately decided to end the interview then. A brush with genius, and she'll probably never know it. I thought about trying to dash down to the club that night and crash the party, but my pogo stick was in the shop. Peter B. ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: FW: record labels & so forth Date: Thu, 19 Oct 95 16:18:00 PDT On Thursday, October 19, Beaker speculated: > I was looking at the sleeve of Respect last night and I noticed >that Robyn did some of the production/mixing at Real World Studios. > ...do you know if Robyn has been in contact with >Real World for a possible record deal? Would he consider it? >Would they consider him? Speaking as another Peter Gabriel supporter ("World Music" having been my staple listening diet for many years) I find the idea of RH on the Real World label somewhat incongruous. Nevertheless, there is (& correct me if I'm wrong) a Captain Sensible/Jah Wobble connection here, is there not? Anyone else like to comment on this connection? -nw "The Bellman" [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...