Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 159 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] Robyn meets Peter Surgery (again?) Free Terry Marks!? Re: Golden Gate Park setlist, 7/3/89 RH mention Free Terry Marks Telethon Percy (continued) Re: Wax Doll and Cones Re: Wax Doll and Cones RE: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols CRD: Wax Doll/Superman [Bass] sexuality terry marks and internal vibration Re: Wax Doll and Cones Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols Wax Terry Marks. Re: Wax Doll and Cones fegmania! Re: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] Re: Wax Terry Marks. Re: Percy (continued) Stumped? Relax! knee-jerk response [ignore] RE: RH mention peter? FW: Wax Terry Marks. Re: knee-jerk response [ignore] [no] Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols ------------------------------ From: bing@student.umass.edu Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:58:19 -0400 Subject: Re: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >from the program handed out at Golden Gate Park, 7/3/89: >1983 Meet Peter in cat protection agency in North London. >interesting. robyn told a similar story (w/ peter) during a radio >interview on wbcn in boston in 1988. wonder if there really is some >truth to it (seemed like typical robyn/peter b.s. on the interview). >woj Isn't this also the discussion preceding "I Something You' on the K records 7-inch? Must be. Bradley ------------------------------ From: sprano@cvax.ipfw.indiana.edu Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:15:16 EST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Robyn meets Peter The story about Robyn and Peter Buck meeting each other while protecting cats seems to be true. On the K records single of "I Something You", Robyn is relating the story of how he met Peter Buck. You hear him say "...he was drunk and he wanted to protect a cat." And then, "We found some cats and went off and protected them." FYI! -HAL. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:49:06 +1300 (NZDT) To: The veins of Her Majesty the Queen From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Surgery (again?) I'm fairly sure I've sent this top the list before, but there have been two requests, so maybe it slipped through the net. SURGERY (see note about chords at the end of the song) F C Bb Am C Eb Bb You'll never have the damn thing out Bb F Bbm F Or meet the pope, and kiss his neck Bbm F C And like him more than you expect F F7 And in my mind, the colour red, Bb Bbm6 Is writ in blood upon your head C Eb7 C Tonight, when the time is right You'll never wear the damn thing out Or meet the queen, and kiss her throat And ask her where she hangs her coat And in my mind the colour blue Will never be as dark as you Tonight, when the time is right You'll never wash the damn things out Or meet the judge, and kiss his figs And wonder where he keeps his wigs And in my mind the colour pink Will do more damage when you think, tonight And in my mind the colour green Is oh so lovely and obscene Tonight, when the time is right NOTE: The cheat's method... capo up 3 frets, then play: D A G F#m A C G G D Gm D Gm D A D D7 G Gm6 A C7 A, with Gm6 being simply xx0330 James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:50:12 +1300 (NZDT) To: The veins of Her Majesty the Queen From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan) Subject: Free Terry Marks!? From: "Mark Gloster" Re: New World Order >>no person should be exiled in florida. i hereby propose a 'free terry >>marks' campaign...*) FREE TERRY MARKS - with every six empty wrappers! Collect them and swap them with your friends! >ps. Terry, I hope to send you a copy of "Monday's Lunch", the song... Whew, I'm glad you included those two words! Terry, nothing new from me, I'm afraid, but I'll send some old ones for the tape in the next week or so - "Sting in the Scorpion's Tail" and "Mines of Wisdom" probably. Take your pick! James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:31:50 -0500 To: Russ Reynolds From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: Re: Golden Gate Park setlist, 7/3/89 Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >I've got a box in my garage full of Hitchcock press clippings and other >memorabilia. It's been years since I've looked in that box, but I went into >it over the weekend looking for the Pink Section article that Gina Arnold >wrote years ago. Alas, that article was not in the box, but I DID find a >program from July 3, 1989 when Robyn performed solo acoustic at San >Francisco's Golden Gate Park as part of Live 105's concert series. The >program included an interesting "Robyn Hitchcock History" which I'll pass >along later. > >A set list was scribbled across the back by yours truly: > > "I Often Dream Of Trains" > "I Watch The Cars" > "Queen Elvis" > "Love" > "Ten Fingers" > "I Got A Message For You" > >Anyone know what this "Ten fingers" tune might be? russ- i recently obtained a tape of this show, and so it is fresh in my head. ten fingers is one of those improvistational thingss. >I think somewhere I've got photos of this show, because I distinctly >remember standing about five rows back, holding a camera above my head, >facing it in the general direction of the stage and clicking away. I have a photo of this show too, which is why i wanted the tape. A few years back my sister's boyfriend at the time (whose musical mainstays are Night Ranger, Journey) came over to my apartment. When he saw my Cd collection--specifically Robyn--he said "I have something you might like." He left and came back with a black and white photo of Robyn. "My cousin took it at some free concert at Golden Gate Park. It might be rare, I heard Robyn doesn't like his picture taken...." >Stay tuned for the Robyn Hitchcock History. > And this has been "John Jones' personal-history-as-it-relates-to-Robyn segment. We now return you to the "Free Terry Marks March", already in progress.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu "You know Bootleg Sal used to live crosstown, The law went there and they closed him down, Now you can't get that stuff no more." -Tampa Red & Georgia Tom, 1932 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: CooperTJ@aol.com Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:51:48 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RH mention Anthony DeCurtis in VH1 Online's Music Diary section writes: On Thursday, October 5th, I went down to the Mercury Lounge to see Robyn Hitchcock perform an acoustic set accompanied by a terrific female violinist, Deni Bonet, who had previously played with R.E.M. and who also has a band of her own that's been gigging around town, called, aptly enough, Deni Bonet. Characteristically, Robyn was extremely entertaining and the audience included such luminaries as Peter Buck and Mike Mills of R.E.M. and the members of Grant Lee Buffalo. R.E.M. were in town to do shows at the Meadowlands in New Jersey and Nassau Coliseum on Long Island (with Grant Lee Buffalo, who were great at the New Jersey set I saw, opening). A VH1 crew interviewed Buck and Michael Stipe for VH1 UK and they said that R.E.M. are considering going on the road again in the summer of '96 -- though their management didn't know it yet. The current tour ends on November 21st in Atlanta. (Meanwhile, you should check out the cover story on Stipe in the November issue of Out magazine.) --wish one of the music channels was enlightened enough to feature our hero.... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 22:17:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Glen Uber To: The Free Terry Marks Fund Subject: Free Terry Marks Telethon Ways to help free Terry Marks: We secure some private access channels and hold a "Free Terry Marks Pledge Drive"? We could get Robyn to perform, backed by all the people who were on the Netsurfer Ghost tape. Maybe Bradley could show up with the Soft Egyptians (if his tour schedule allows). We could have a letter-writing drive in which we write to our government officials and explain the political and socio-economic importance of freeing Terry. We could also have a bake sale with all the proceeds going to the fund. We could spread the word and garner worldwide support. Terry's name will forever stand as a symbol of what people will do to help another person in need. Actually, I'm being too idealistic. I just want one of the T-Shirts. Slante, ***Quotation of the week:*** "Outside of a dog, a book is Glen E. Uber a man's best friend; inside of University of Washington a dog, it's too dark to read." Departments of Linguistics --Groucho Marx and Germanics Email: hirsute@u.washington.edu Voice Mail: 206.547.8936 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:28:50 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: Brenda shovelling on the wurst Subject: Percy (continued) I checked in Halliwell and the film _is_ based on the novel by Raymond Hitchcock (RH's father, for neophytes). Halliwell describes it as being essentially witless but having a few hilarious moments. I think I'll give it a miss and dig out my video of Time Bandits instead. - Mike (Color Out Of Space) Godwin PS I wonder whether the cat's protection league office is anywhere near that den of aliens which is so easily mistaken for Muswell Hill Cab Hire? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Oct 1995 23:41:18 +0100 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: Jim Subject: Re: Wax Doll and Cones Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu another jim wrote: >Good morning Fegsters... > >I wonder if any of you out there can answer my two questions: > >1. What is the significance of the song "Wax Doll"? Specifically, and > I am being serious here, what do the last lines mean: > > "If I was man enough I'd come on your stump (repeat) > But this is the home counties...." > I asked this same question not so long ago. A couple of people made suggestions. Jay Lyall said: >I always took this to mean that if he was more daring he'd go on some trip but >instead he stays in the complacent life of the Home Counties burbs kinda >thing.... Cheri pointed out the existence of amputee fetishists and said: "So, that's one possiblity I came up with. If I was man enough, I'd cum on your stump, like a "real man" would be so dominant that he would use only that for sexual arousal, or the focus for the orgasm, or something along that line. Or perhaps even, if he was man enough, he wouldn't let being an amputee interfere with pursuit of her....it could be that. real man = strong, and he might be describing someone not strong enough to put up with societal stares." To me, the "Come on your stump" line always seemed massively out of place in a song full of gentle imagery and which seems to be about a paternal relationship with an imaginitive child. It's such an unpleasant and graphical image mainly because of its setting, you can attach meaning to it in isolation, but it's the fact it's so unrelated to the general thread which puzzles me. In the end, I'm afraid it's just one of those Robyn lines which maybe he throws in just to perplex and interest people like us who might send emails to eachother in an attempt to figure it out. The theatre of the absurd, art for reaction's sake? I dunno. Re: the "wax doll" line itself, here's my interpretation: if you put a wax doll on a fire it will melt and perhaps look as though it's crying. Or if you put a non-wax doll in a fire, it will melt, and look like it's wax, and crying. Seems to me that this is consistent with the rest of the song's child-theme, sounds like the kind of thing a child would say "daddy, my wax doll's crying in the fire.." But what is this thing Robyn has about wax? There's "wax on my body" in "Railway Shoes" and...er...oh shit, there's definitely more but I can't immediately think of any. mmm fluid that's the tops, ************ Jim Bower ** ******** ** * * * """" """" * ** (@) (@) * *Advertisement* { ' ` } Freud Squad CD almost available *l (oo) l* ........you KNOW you want one! l ' l )======( l l` ' l `________' l l ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:01:06 -0400 From: beach house tiki god To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Wax Doll and Cones perhaps the "come on your stump" line doesn't so much mean a specific thing as it means any brash action in general. it almost sounds like slang for "beat you up," but since no home county fegs have raised their hand to say that they use the phrase in daily parlance, i think it's an off-the-cuff robynism to mean, "i'd do something that would really wig you out, but, sorry chap, that's not how home county boys behave." woj ------------------------------ Date: 17 Oct 1995 06:33:38 U From: "King Chuck" Subject: RE: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] To: "fegmaniax" >>interesting. robyn told a similar story (w/ peter) during a radio >>interview on wbcn in boston in 1988. wonder if there really is some >>truth to it (seemed like typical robyn/peter b.s. on the interview). > >>woj > >Isn't this also the discussion preceding "I Something You' on the K records >7-inch? Must be. I also seem to recall reading in Rolling Stone circa GoF about Robyn babysitting for Peter's cats while R.E.M. were in Europe. Chuck King ...or was that catsitting Peter's babies... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 07:06:16 -0500 (EST) From: Tracy Aileen Copeland Subject: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu "Esther! A long-chain ..." On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, Jim wrote: > Re: the "wax doll" line itself, here's my interpretation: if you put a wax > doll on a fire it will melt and perhaps look as though it's crying. Or if > you put a non-wax doll in a fire, it will melt, and look like it's wax, and > crying. Seems to me that this is consistent with the rest of the song's > child-theme, sounds like the kind of thing a child would say "daddy, my wax > doll's crying in the fire.." > I've read fiction in which voodoo dolls were made of wax, but I don't know whether this is traditional or not. (Voodoo is a syncretic religion still practiced in parts of the Caribbean and the southern US. There's a voodoo tradition of sympathetic magic, in which items [most famously dolls] associated with a person are subjected to rituals intended to affect that person.) > But what is this thing Robyn has about wax? There's "wax on my body" in > "Railway Shoes" and...er...oh shit, there's definitely more but I can't > immediately think of any. > There's "They're chewing away at the wax" in "Earthly Paradise," and "I would offer you some meat in exchange for a good loaf of wax" in "Bones in the Ground." In both cases the rhyming word is "relax;" I've always imagined Hitchcock writing the second line first and thinking "hmmm ... something odd that rhymes with 'relax' ... I know!" I may be being unfair here. Tracy "wax toast, yeah" Copeland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 21:18:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: CRD: Wax Doll/Superman [Bass] To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Here's how Wax Doll is really played. (verse). The notes in parentheses are tough to get. My advice is (a) Tune your E up to F. (b) Do what Robyn did and get Morris to play guitar also so that you don't have to hit all the notes. Tell one of them to get the E-string and you get the rest. (c) As with (b), but with the help of someone besides Morris to play that bit. G:----------------------- D:-------3--------3------ A:----0h3-3----0h1-1----- E:-(1)------(3)---------- Superman: Here's that great bassline from the first verse. The bassline of the second verse is just a straight C. G:----0------------------ D:----------------------- A:--3----3---0-2--------- E:----------3------------ Terry Marks "The HUman Mellotron" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:52:36 -0400 (EDT) From: dwillem1@IC3.ITHACA.EDU Subject: sexuality terry marks and internal vibration To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Sexuality: Robyn introduced Queen Elvis last summer by saying: "This is a song about people who exploit their sexual ambiguity for more gain than I do" In an interview for Rolling Stone, they asked him if he had ever had sex with other men, or male fans, and he said something to the effect of "Of course, that was one of the advantages of going to an all boys school" and "I slept with a lot more fans in the early days" I've always considered the story (about Mr. Moose) in the Respect album an exploration of sexuality (especially in the last paragraph). Terry Marks: Well the Free Terry Marks convention went rather well. A bit somber, but it fit the general mood. The pinnacle was when Robyn came out on stage at the end and dedicated Mr. Deadly to Terry. Tears came to eyes when everyone virtually chanted out the chorus (torchlights swaying in the darkness of the evening): And all who hear him say He must be further gone then they And all who hear him say He must be mad To be himself Around today Very moving. I think I saw a couple of you other fegs there as well, but as you may well agree, the mood wasn't quite right to go around meeting people. I was angry I didn't have enough money for a tee-shirt, although I cought a glimpse of the back of it, I think it said "Spring into Reality" (ouch!). Can anyone back me up on this? Internal vibration: I'm feelin' it alright. David "I'll leave you with this. This is a song about dying from cancer... ONE TWO THREE FOUR!" {Yip Song} ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:39:33 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Wax Doll and Cones To: Jim@jimbower.demon.co.uk Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >> "If I was man enough I'd come on your stump (repeat) >> But this is the home counties...." >> > Perhaps its about a frustrated lumber-jack lusting for the gratification he can only find in felled fields of the mighty oak, but trapped in Southern England and dreaming of his far away wooden love toys %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:20:00 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols To: toast@indy.net Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > I've read fiction in which voodoo dolls were made of wax, but I >don't know whether this is traditional or not. (Voodoo is a syncretic >religion still practiced in parts of the Caribbean and the southern US. >There's a voodoo tradition of sympathetic magic, in which items [most >famously dolls] associated with a person are subjected to rituals >intended to affect that person.) but in order to work you need some hair and possibly finger nail clippings from the person the doll is supposed to represent....perhaps our New Orleans Fegs can elaborate....NO does have the best Voodoo shops in the country.... >> But what is this thing Robyn has about wax? There's "wax on my body" in >> "Railway Shoes" and...er...oh shit, there's definitely more but I can't >> immediately think of any. perhaps in addition to posing as a recordstore clerk he was also a beautician working heavily in electrolosis and the waxing of womens legs? jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 11:31:02 PDT From: Gene Subject: Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:20:00 -0500 (CDT) JAY LYALL wrote: >but in order to work you need some hair and possibly finger nail clippings from >the person the doll is supposed to represent....perhaps our New Orleans Fegs >can elaborate....NO does have the best Voodoo shops in the country.... Are there any New Orleans Fegs? I used to be one (just left the Crescent City), I'm just a Maryland Feg now (but hey, you can't remove the N'Awlins from me...). As for building the doll, anything from the targeted person will do, but the closer to him/her, or the more personal, the better. The spell books I own recommend hair, nail clippings, as you suggested, but also bodily fluids (!) and pieces of personal articles such as underwear (!). BTW, anybody need a great spell to give someone warts? Or, could somebody get me one of a pair of Trent Reznor's underwear? Heh. "Even tried Voodoo outside your home, but these days I couldn't care less..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:15:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Miss Western Teen USA To: dennis Subject: Wax Terry Marks. perhaps instead of freeing terry we should smuggle him out of florida. we could accomplish this by all of us contributing a small amount of wax. this wax would then be covered around terry and the authorities would be none the wiser to our plot. encased in this wax he could easily be smuggled out of the region. also, after he is free, terry may need 'adjustment' counseling. this could be a formidable task considering the contrast between florida and the rest of the planet. thus, we now may have 'Counsel Terry Marks' projects going in every state, excepting missouri. .chris ------------------------------ From: "Brian Huddell" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 10:17:58 +0000 Subject: Re: Wax Doll and Cones > > "If I was man enough I'd come on your stump (repeat) > > But this is the home counties...." Did I dream this, or isn't there a usage of "stump" which corresponds roughly with "soapbox," ie. a place where speeches are made? When I want to evade the jarringly seminal imagery of that line I pretend it means something like "If I was man enough I'd speak my mind, but here in the HCs we don't do that sort of thing so I won't, TOAST!" --Brian ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 13:38:11 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: fegmania! >I'm not so new to fegmaniax and I still don't know what "feg" means! "what is fegmania? it has come for your sister. also for your husband, that kindly man with something poking out of his head. it has come for your arms, and it will change your concept of hygiene. it may be the sound of a plane crash-landing in a ploughed field, or salad cream being tipped out of an attic window. there are stars, minds and judges - people in scarlet rags that pull frogs out of each others' mouths. FEGMANIA RISES! light pulsing from a bruised sun that eats into tired rugs. light coursing from a swarming moon that careens in frozen exstasy across the sky - naked people oozing on warm mud with the radio tuned to venus. here is music to implode by. here is FEGMANIA! a turnip in a silver box. a dromedary lurching through the house of commons. a bank manager shooting himself in the navel with a water-pistol. a royal baby with permanent amnesia. a vampire at the cenotaph. respectable people with uncontrollable urges, freed only by the disconnection of their hands. a nun writing her name in marmalade on a soldier's leg. one word." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 10:54:32 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: A Robyn Hitchcock History [long] ======== Original Message ======== >from the program handed out at Golden Gate Park, 7/3/89: >1983 Meet Peter in cat protection agency in North London. interesting. robyn told a similar story (w/ peter) during a radio interview on wbcn in boston in 1988. wonder if there really is some truth to it (seemed like typical robyn/peter b.s. on the interview). woj ======== Fwd by: Russ Reynolds ======== He can also be heard telling this story at the beginning of "I Something You" on the K single. So either it's true or they've done a great job perpetuating the myth. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:25:16 -0700 Subject: Re: Wax Terry Marks. From: Tom Clark To: "Miss Western Teen USA" , "fegManiax" >perhaps instead of freeing terry we should smuggle him out of florida. >we could accomplish this by all of us contributing a small amount of wax. >this wax would then be covered around terry and the authorities would be >none the wiser to our plot. encased in this wax he could easily be >smuggled out of the region. "Is your wax Terry still smuggling through the fire?" -tc ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. "Knowledge Is Good" * tclark@apple.com -Emil Faber * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 11:19:31 +0100 To: M R Godwin From: Jim Subject: Re: Percy (continued) Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >I checked in Halliwell and the film _is_ based on the novel by Raymond >Hitchcock (RH's father, for neophytes). I never knew Robyn's dad was a novelist. Is this true? ************ Jim Bower ** ******** ** * * * """" """" * ** (@) (@) * *Advertisement* { ' ` } Freud Squad CD STILL almost available *l (oo) l* ........you KNOW you want one! l ' l )======( l l` ' l `________' l l ------------------------------ From: Ross Overbury To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (The list that invented itself) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 14:53:07 EDT Subject: Stumped? Relax! >Subject: Re: Wax Doll and Cones > >> > "If I was man enough I'd come on your stump (repeat) >> > But this is the home counties...." > >Did I dream this, or isn't there a usage of "stump" which corresponds >roughly with "soapbox," ie. a place where speeches are made? When I >want to evade the jarringly seminal imagery of that line I pretend it >means something like "If I was man enough I'd speak my mind, but here >in the HCs we don't do that sort of thing so I won't, TOAST!" > >--Brian > I've always thought that way. Not that I'd ever heard this phrase before. I'm sure Robyn knew people would hear it as a sexual reference, too. He does like to play with words, doesn't he? Whenever I get too puzzled about the meaning of lyrics, I find comfort in these lines from Dylan's "Watching the River Flow": People disagreeing everywhere you look Makes you want to stop and read a book Forgive me if my aging memory fails me and I've paraphrased this great poetry. Sometimes we agonize over the meaning of phrases that got stuck in the song while working it out, and never got replaced; or ones that got picked out of a hat like the Bowie/Eno experiments in the 80's; or ones used for their sounds rather than their meanings. If I remember correctly, the original question also referred to the meaning of the song as a whole. The verses of "Wax Doll" don't seem to have a whole lot to do with each other. Is it really about one thing? Maybe there's a "big picture" I can't see. Maybe the connection is a personal one for Robyn. Maybe it's just words. I'll get off my stump now. -- ROSS OVERBURY (Orb something or other) INTERNET: rosso@cn.ca ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:57:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: Gene cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: knee-jerk response [ignore] Gene remarked: >I'm just a Maryland Feg now JUST a Maryland Feg? Harumph. ------------------------------ From: jimm@dbu.edu Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 15:16:00 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: RH mention Ha. The VH1 thing sounds like a fairly typical Robyn interview/review... example: REPORTER: "We're here to talk to Robyn Hitchcock, psychedelic pop cult figure extraordinaire... -So Robyn, how long have you known R.E.M.? -What did Peter Buck have for lunch yesterday when you had lunch? -What's the funniest thing you've ever said to Peter Buck? -Do you like Michael Stipe's new bald head hairdo? -What's the funniest thing Peter Buck has said to you? -Tell us the cat story again--that one is hilarious!!!!!! -Do you know if R.E.M. plans to tour this year? -Will we see Peter on any of your forthcoming albums? -Isn't R.E.M. great? Well, that's it for our exclusive interview with Robyn Hitchcock" Beaker =============================================================== > Characteristically, Robyn was extremely entertaining and the audience >included such luminaries as Peter Buck and Mike Mills of R.E.M. and the >members of Grant Lee Buffalo. R.E.M. were in town to do shows at the >Meadowlands in New Jersey and Nassau Coliseum on Long Island (with Grant >Lee >Buffalo, who were great at the New Jersey set I saw, opening). A VH1 crew >interviewed Buck and Michael Stipe for VH1 UK and they said that R.E.M. >are >considering going on the road again in the summer of '96 -- though their >management didn't know it yet. The current tour ends on November 21st in >Atlanta. (Meanwhile, you should check out the cover story on Stipe in the >November issue of Out magazine.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 16:01:13 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Winiarz To: beach house tiki god Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: peter? anyone know when robyn will be talking to peter (buck) again? any possibilities of peter being on the next album? shaz *better than a kick in the teeth with a frozen mukluk* ------------------------------ From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: FW: Wax Terry Marks. Date: Tue, 17 Oct 95 13:59:00 PDT On:Tuesday, October 17, Chris schemed: >perhaps instead of freeing terry we should smuggle him out of Florida. >we could accomplish this by all of us contributing a small amount of wax. >this wax would then be covered around terry and the authorities would be >none the wiser to our plot. encased in this wax he could easily be >smuggled out of the region. Surely the thing to do with all that wax is to make a replica of Terry (a la Madame Tousaudes). That way we can fool the authorities that he is still there. If they realize he's gone--who knows, they may start extradition proceedings on some trumped-up charges. (Selling YooHoo to minors? Excessive use of F#m?) We must act fast! Send wax now. Cheers "The Bellman" PS I never did get my T-Shirt. --Did someone pick up mine by mistake? I only saw the back from a distance--looked like: "Strings into F#". Seems appropriate. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:56:40 -0400 From: beach house tiki god To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: knee-jerk response [ignore] [no] Bayard sez: >Gene remarked: >>I'm just a Maryland Feg now >JUST a Maryland Feg? Harumph. why be just a maryland feg when you can be a *delmarva* feg? :) woj ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 18:20:47 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey with 2 f's Jeffrey" To: "Us...we wanna be some anglepoise lamps yeh!" Subject: Re: Esters of long-chain carboxylic acids and long-chain alcohols On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, stirring up world-wide havoc, JAY LYALL wrote: > > >> But what is this thing Robyn has about wax? There's "wax on my body" in > >> "Railway Shoes" and...er...oh shit, there's definitely more but I can't > >> immediately think of any. > > perhaps in addition to posing as a recordstore clerk he was also a beautician > working heavily in electrolosis and the waxing of womens legs? > No, this ties in with the Peter Buck/cat protection thread. If you recall, in Arthur Conan Doyle's "The Empty House" (the Sherlock Holmes story in which Holmes returns from his apparent demise at the hands of the nefarious Prof. Moriarty), Holmes fools Col. Sebastian Moran by placing a lifesize wax figure of himself in his rooms, which draws the fire of Moran's airgun--with Holmes & Watson conveniently camped out in the empty house across the way, which, affording a perfect view of Holmes' Baker Street quarters, is also where Moran hides to take his shot at "Holmes." (For some reason, I find myself thinking of Lee Harvey Oswald in the Texas School Book Depository...ahHA! The New Orleans connection! So: Lee Harvey Oswald's into voodoo, and has a wax doll made of JFK, which he dresses up in women's clothes so he can sell it at a meeting of the New Orleans Irenian Society--a "Sherlockian" society operating under the peculiar premise that Irene Adler, from "Scandal in Bohemia," was actually Holmes in drag....) Anyway, where the hell was I? Oh yes: So: when Robyn & Peter Buck met drunkenly that fateful eve, attempting to protect cats, what they did was make a wax cat, so that, ummm, whoever was attempting to harm the cat in question would just go after the wax cat instead. So *that's* why wax appears so often in RH songs, because this event made *such* an impression on him... "But wait," you say, "RObyn wrote about wax *before* that meeting with Peter Buck. Explain *that*, you wigged-out freak!" Geez, as if we didn't all already know that Robyn's *psychic*... --Jeff Jeffrey Norman "Solipsism is its own reward" University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Dept. of English & Comp. Lit. --Crow T. Robot e-mail: jenor@csd.uwm.edu PS: Too bad Captain Beefheart's no longer recording--I'd like to hear his rendition of "Esther's Longchain Boxcar Acid Alcohol Blues." [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. 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