Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 136 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Worst reptiles et worst Ian Penman/Spectre Floating Cathedral Elvis Song SF gig on Sept 25? A horse is a horse of course Tour dates? Re: SF gig on Sept 25? Live At The Portland Arms Re: reptiles et worst more dates on east Re: reptiles et worst Re: reptiles et worst Re: reptiles et worst Re: Floating Cathedral Elvis Song What are the west coast dates? Gloss Fish and Wafflehead Re: reptiles et worst FegFont Re: worst... Re: Worst RH Songs Re: un-favorites Re: Portland, Live at, but no Arms. Re: FegFont Re: Ian Penman/Spectre bread & FegFont Re: FegFont Titus RE: FegFont flexi disc Re: worst... (fwd) Re: FegFont RH Monologue, 3/19/86 Re: Wire (No Robyn Content) Re: FegFont Re: reptiles ate my brain [][][][][][][][][][] From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:19:06 +1100 To: The veins of Her Majesty the Queen Subject: Worst Someone mentioned Dracula when discussing one of Robyn';s songs the other day. But this thread reminds me more of the Frankenstein story. It seems to have taken on a life of its own. For those intewrested in such things, a quick tally up shows WAFFLEHEAD leading the way, closely pursued by FURRY GREEN ATOM BOWL, then SUPERMAN, I SOMETHING YOU, STRAWBERRY MIND (some of you have NO taste!) and ARMS OF LOVE. James James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) [][][][][][][][][][] From: cj.burnham@ic.ac.uk Subject: reptiles et worst To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 13:04:39 +0100 (bst) Worst Hitchcock? I never liked Psycho all that much to be honest. PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? Christian 'tin ear' Burnham [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Ian Penman/Spectre To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Just thinking.. Who is Ian Penman (as in "The Lonesome Death Of...") and is there any chance that the Invisible Hits liner notes is referring to him? And How was the "Spectre" album distributed? [Not asking to get a copy of "Spectre", just trying to figure out how to be on "The List" if he does somehting like that again] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ps. Could someone check my tab for "Wide Open Star". It seemed right when I wrote it, but now it seems totally out of tune. Thanks [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 00:35:42 EDT From: Daniel Ginsberg Subject: Floating Cathedral Elvis Song To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Treading lightly over songs that may or may not get my spleen riled (ie, disliking worst of lists as much as best of lists if only cuz i cant generate item 1), let me pick up two micro-threads, which not being pasteurized spoil quickly but taste better fresh than do mass markedted threads. 1. When I read Karen's remark about "Balloon Man" I thought "HAH! I know eggzacly what ya mean!" Sometimes "and i wish i could ride a horse" grates, feeling like a use-it-cuz-it-rhymes cop out. But only sometimes. As I told Karen earlier today, that line often works really well for me in that it captures perfectly the neurotic thought patterns of someone doing the big wander through the city while in the grips of denial over some unhappy occurrence. Imagine watching the Masey's parade in NYC on new years day shortly after getting dumped. Bam. Ballon man. We just aren't clever enough to write it down at all or well if we do. Or we tell the wrong people and recieve happy pills as payment. Actually we pay the wrong people lots of money, share with them proto-ballon man interior monologues, and then are requested to buy happy pills if only so that we can handle the price tag of it all. But bobby is smarter than all that..... 2. Regarding Queen Elvis, I think that queen elvis is about rock stars. Then again I think that Heavan is a "floating cathedral prairie song." But pop songs are supposed to be evocative and disseminating (Derrida's sense, thanks) rather than bland monodimensional statements. Imean a 3 minute song wont get uner anyone's skin unless it has some give to it (and a "good beat" fer all of you bandstanders out there). Bobby does a better job of this than most and we love him for it. And if "queen Elvis" the song works for me it is because the insights work on several levels including that of homophobia, its persistant damaging impact on folks who arent straight, and the courage required to be oneself if one is gay in a society biased against gays. That doestn trump other readings nor does it trivialize them. But it sure is there and it sure matters to me that it is there. Of course it is has gotten harder to say "this song is about being gay" from the artists side, not because of blackllisting (tho old stick) but because the media/marketing folks want to reduce artists who address the issue or who are gay to being "gay recording artists" Which, of course, misrepresents dehumanizes, and trivializes the artist and his/her work. Bob Mould has been struggling mightily lately with this problem, which has nothing to do with him and his ffans,but everything to do with the press and marketing folks. Bonsoir, je dis! dan [][][][][][][][][][] From: treefrog@netcom.com (Edward of Sim) Subject: SF gig on Sept 25? To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 09:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Hi fegs! Someone recently mentioned Robyn having a gig in San Francisco on Monday, September 25. At the time I thought I couldn't afford to go, so I didn't even take in the venue or anything. So: Where's he playing!? Someone help me out, please!! Thanks! Peace and frogs, Edward -- Edward of Sim treefrog@netcom.com "Let's work without theorizing," said Martin; "it's the only way to make life bearable." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 11:59:27 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: A horse is a horse of course To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu I have enjoyed Robyn's playing with that line in live performances singing "I wish I'd eaten your horse" "I wish I'd married a horse" and there was one other I remember that he changed the lyric, but I just went blank.... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I never want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 95 12:11:42 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Tour dates? Anyone seen an official list of tour dates covering the west coast yet? I'm hoping for a second bay area show next to the Sep. 25th GAMH show. BTW, I noticed the opening act for that show has changed from "Titus" to someone else I've never heard of (I forget his name). BTW #2, over the weekend I brewed a batch of "Egyptian Cream Stout" just for the occasion. Thinking of bringing one for Uncle Bobby, as I believe he's been spotted enjoy a dark beer on more than one occasion. -Russ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 12:30:10 -0700 From: Jon-Ross Habina Subject: Re: SF gig on Sept 25? To: Edward of Sim cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Edward of Sim wrote: > > Someone recently mentioned Robyn having a gig in San Francisco on > Monday, September 25. At the time I thought I couldn't afford to go, > so I didn't even take in the venue or anything. So: Where's he > playing!? Someone help me out, please!! > Great American Music Hall, I believe, me heartie. Call BASS and they'll be in the know. Bathtub gin and bubble gum, J-R [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 16:21:43 -0400 (EDT) From: dwillem1@IC3.ITHACA.EDU Subject: Live At The Portland Arms To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Does anyone out there have a copy of the Live at Portland Arms? I'm also looking for b-sides not included in the Rhino re-releases (like the singles off of his newer albums). I taped a radio interview when he was in Minneapolis this summer, he plays 52 Stations, I-Something-You, and Surgery. I also taped Arms of Love and The Yip Song (audio) from 120 minutes. Willing to trade, until then I'll be Grooving on an inner plane. peace. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 17:19:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: reptiles et worst To: cj.burnham@ic.ac.uk Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu This was written by: Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Mon, 11 Sep 1995 cj.burnham@ic.ac.uk wrote: > Worst Hitchcock? > > I never liked Psycho all that much to be honest. Psycho? > PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? Yes, especially that bit about the bath and being dead. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 18:56:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assa To: Robyn Subject: more dates on east New York City Mercury Lounge October 5th and 6th I don't have any ticket or price or times info. --------------------------------------------------- 1. Earth is 98% full. Please delete anyone you can. 2. I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. 3. The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. [][][][][][][][][][] From: MILLER@ECCLES.NZDRI.Org.NZ Date: 12 Sep 1995 11:35:22 +1200 Subject: Re: reptiles et worst To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? > Yes, especially that bit about the bath and being dead. (Do I detect some sarcasm creeping into things today?) I have a question about "Titus": the act that was due to play support for RH in SF (acronyms...acronyms). What is this act's connection with Robyn? Reason for asking... If any of you had to read Mervyn Peake's "Gormenghast" in school or something (see RH favourite books list in an earlier post), you'd recognise "Titus Groan" as being from that book. (All three books in the Peake trilogy are great BTW if you're in need of a good read on a rainy Sunday). Enough of me. Sally [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 02:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia To: your mom Subject: Re: reptiles et worst On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Terry Marks wrote: > > > PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? > Yes, especially that bit about the bath and being dead. can you go into a bit more detail? did he die in a bathtub? or just like to take baths? or what? (i never liked morrison much, but the very fact that robyn saw fit to write a song about him moves him up a notch or two) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 95 12:02:43 BST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: reptiles et worst At 02:25 AM 12/9/95, Livia wrote: >On Mon, 11 Sep 1995, Terry Marks wrote: >> >> > PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? >> Yes, especially that bit about the bath and being dead. > >can you go into a bit more detail? did he die in a bathtub? or just >like to take baths? or what? > Actually, it's rumoured that he died as a result of smoke inhalation, after Janis Joplin burnt the toast she was cooking him for breakfast. Jim's pet name for Janis was "Betty," and this incident later became the inspiration for Robyn's song "Have A Heart, Betty (I'm not fireproof)." I believe that when Jim cried out "Open the door, Janis" she misheard him, and thought that he was just singing along to "Open the Door, Homer." Leonard Cohen probably had the burnt toast incident in mind when he wrote the line in "Chelsea Hotel" that goes "giving me bread on an unmade bed" which is allegedly about Janis. Jonathan. Jonathan [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 07:48:41 -0400 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Floating Cathedral Elvis Song > Bob Mould has been struggling mightily lately with this problem, >which has nothing to do with him and his ffans,but everything to do >with the press and marketing folks. One of the things I always respected about Bob Mould is that he _never_ made an issue of it. Personally, and I'm probably just talking outta turn since I'm straight, I think it'd help the gays mightily if there were more like him who took the "I'm gay, so what?" attitude. Now back to Robyn... ---Mike (Nickname o' the month - "Grumpy Ol' Alterna-Guy") Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com mikester@bix.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 13:44:34 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: What are the west coast dates? To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu So this friend of mine is getting married on Sept 30th killing my trip to Seattle...when are the other west coast dates Portland perhaps.... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I never want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 11 Sep 1995 23:52:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Gloss Fish and Wafflehead To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps 1) The Gloss Fish questionaire has been altered to take out the inane bits. It now reads: 1) Describe your band/songwriting/general musical style? 2) Why did you pick the songs you picked? 3) Tell us about your band's lineup 4) Who are your musical and lyrical influences and why? 5) What are some of your favorite all-time lyric one-liners by any musical group/poet/writer? 6) How about your ten desert island disks? If anyone would like to submit questions for everyone, feel free. 2) I note that several of you don't like Wafflehead. Just wondering, by a show of private e-mail, how many of you would like it more if it wasn't as blatantly sexual? [I challenge anyone on this list to find a song which is more sexual besides "Smoothie".] You know, how many of you would like the song if it was about, say, a family of badgers or suchlike? Let me know. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us [][][][][][][][][][] From: MILLER@nzdri.org.nz Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:24:59 +1200 (NZST) Subject: Re: reptiles et worst To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu --Boundary (ID UadF7/IpH7BYBhUwHi4puQ) Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN > PS I got BSDR last week. Is that reptile song to do with Jim Morrison? > > > Yes, especially that bit about the bath and being dead. > > (Do I detect some sarcasm creeping into things today?) > (Terry, apologies for the above, it's often so hard to read the tone of posts on this hunk of plastic.) >From recent posts, it's seems like Robyn visits some areas pretty regularly. I'm reasonably new to his work, so can anyone tell me if RH has ever visited New Zealand? Maybe James in the 'deep south' knows? Just curious... Sally --Boundary (ID UadF7/IpH7BYBhUwHi4puQ)-- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 22:45:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: FegFont To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps I checked the liner notes for IODOT, FegMania and BSDR. All the lowercase letters were used. The only letters not used were DJPQUX and Z. Hopefully, either there are a few things he's written that I've missed or maybe we've got a good forger. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 23:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin To: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz Cc: The veins of Her Majesty the Queen Subject: Re: worst... Dwarfbeat, hands down wins in this catagory. My friend Shanon and I will sometimes listen to it to torture ourselves. On Thu, 7 Sep 1995 james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz wrote: > Okay folks, time for a new thread! > > Dave Baker says of Queen Elvis > >However, I view it very differently. Superman doesn't really work and I > >personally find that One Long Pair of Eyes is a fairly dreary song which > >doesn't move me in any way but apart from that, I feel it is a very strong > >album. > > Now, Superman just happens to be the one Robyn song that I'm most likely to > reach for the "skip track" button during. What song by our beloved maestro > do YOU regard as his woprdst? Or worst, for that matter? > > James > > James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. > > Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand > pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 > > * You talk to me as if from a distance > * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, > * from another time (Brian Eno) > > > [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 23:32:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin To: JAY LYALL Cc: ZeroSummer@aol.com, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Worst RH Songs Okay, I'll take the challenge. Furry Green Atom Bowl is the song that hooked me to Robyn. I'm sick, I know. but it just _really_ stands out from other songs. Ya-know-what-i-mean? -brooks.~~~~~~ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 23:36:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin To: Chuck Tomlinson Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: un-favorites Oh, yeah and "America" is pretty shitty musically speaking also. I dissagree with what most people are picking for worst songs but hey, that's okay! Diversity of opinion is good. We all love Robyn for our own reasons. ~~~~Brooks~~~~~~ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 23:52:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin To: karate boy Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Portland, Live at, but no Arms. Morris Tepper was in the Captain Beefheart band. On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, karate boy wrote: > Robyn will be appearing in Portland, OR, on Wednesday, September 27 at > Berbatis Pan. Ticket info at Ticketmaster 224-4400 and venue info at > 248-4579. Cost is $10 with Morris Tepper and Tiddas opening. I have not a > clue who or what these opening acts may be. I suspect they are human. > (the venue is a no-kids-allowed-over-twenty-onish-sort-of-thing) > > that all, > .chris > > [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 00:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia To: Terry Marks cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Subject: Re: FegFont On Tue, 12 Sep 1995, Terry Marks wrote: > I checked the liner notes for IODOT, FegMania and BSDR. > All the lowercase letters were used. > > The only letters not used were DJPQUX and Z. > Hopefully, either there are a few things he's written that I've missed or > maybe we've got a good forger. > > Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks > a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us isn't there something a bit illegal -- or at least unethical -- about this? i would say that someone's distinctive handwriting is their intellectual property just about as much as anything they write with it if you're serious about this, you should at least contact mrs. wafflehead and have her run the idea by robyn [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 01:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Martin To: Terry Marks Cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Subject: Re: Ian Penman/Spectre To clear this up, Spectre was and is a "promo-only" CD. It was distributed to radio to promote the Respect album. Major labels like to do wanky things like this. I guess they realized that people liked Robyn's chatter a lot(I know I do) so they must've devised this plan to get some of this chatter on the radio. Or maybe not. Mostly I've found that fancy "rare" items like this are given to Music Directors to try and get some of this chatter on the radio. Or maybe not. Mostly I've found that fancy "rare" items like this are given to Music Directors to try and butter them up and spark interest in a particular artist. It's supposedly a good way to "work the record." If the record isn't getting airplay the label won't be "moving units." This make for a sad person who will soon be out of a job. I'm exaggerating a little bit there but not too much. Major labels do business by deluging the industry with buzz to get the ball rolling. This means lots of print advertising, lots of touring and in-store appearances and lots of promo materials. These promo items are usually very cool to fans of the band and really stupid to non-fans. I recently got a bottle of juice in the mail with a sticker from the band "Brutal Juice" stuck to it. Ha ha, very cute. I would have been ectatic, however if I had gotten some balloon man balloons or Wafflehead waffle iron! It's a weird industry. Now let's see, you were curious as to how you could get on a list for releases like this. One way is to start a publication. A lot of my friends have 'zines in which they review records and write about their lives. They receive promos galore. Not always the ones they want, however. People that work at record stores also sometimes can get promos. When I worked at Tower Records in Washington, DC, I got an advance cassette of "Eye" almost a month before it came out. I was 19 and I felt supercool! The best way to get promos, however, is to work in radio. Incidentally, the record company really doesn't care that much if people or stores sell promos; it's ASCAP and BMI (and SOCAN in Canada). If the record company isn't making money off the sale, the artist isn't making money and it's these organizations responsibility to right that. The music business is an incredibly complex legal web but it doesn't need to be that way for everyone. Artists and labels that work on a smaller scale can avoid most of these issues. That's the beauty of something like netsurfer ghost or glass flesh. Long live home taping. Without it we wouldn't have a lot of my favorite Robyn recordings. Boy have I digressed in this note or what? Sorry about that, I've been sitting in bed with a fever and I'm afraid I've grown a bit loopy... Brooks Martin Music Director, KAOS CAB 305 The Evergreen State College Olympia, WA 98505 (360)866-6000 X6896 [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 09:55:42 BST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: bread & FegFont At 07:56 PM 12/9/95, Jordan M Anderson wrote: >Excerpts from internet.music.fegmaniax: 12-Sep-95 Re: reptiles et worst >by Jonathan Turner@rpms.ac. >> Leonard Cohen probably had the burnt toast incident in mind when he wrote >> the line in "Chelsea Hotel" that goes "giving me bread on an unmade bed" > >bread? I always thought it was head. Silly me. > Sorry, I must have been thinking of "Flour of Song." And count me in as another who feels uneasy about analysis of Robyn's handwriting. Jonathan. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 07:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: FegFont To: Livia Cc: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps > isn't there something a bit illegal -- or at least unethical -- about > this? > > i would say that someone's distinctive handwriting is their intellectual > property just about as much as anything they write with it Hmm...I understand what you're going at, but I don't think handwriting is protected, legally...and I *know* that he won't be losing money if someone decides to make a font of his handwriting. > if you're serious about this, you should at least contact mrs. wafflehead > and have her run the idea by robyn Yes. Someone ought to. By the way....why exactly *do* we want to be able to type like Robyn? Terry "The Huam Mellotron" Marks [][][][][][][][][][] From: cj.burnham@ic.ac.uk Subject: Titus To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:50:18 +0100 (bst) Yeah the Titus books are indeed Robyn friendly tomes. Titus Alone is a bit of a let down. Gormenghast is probably the best in the trilogy. Happy the Golden Prince seems to be at least partly inspired Gormenghastically though Mervyn Peake didn't have a lot to say about oral hygiene. Other Robyn friendly authors might be, Iain Banks British author. Try reading 'The Wasp Factory', it cuts the scampi. P.K.Dick American author. Try reading 'The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch'. Thomas Pynchon. Try reading (if you've got the time), 'Gravity's Rainbow' I don't really think RH has probably read many or any of the above, but they come Feg approved. Any other thoughts on this? Christian 'tin ear' Burnham (Has anyone seen my scampi cutter?) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 13 Sep 1995 08:03:44 U From: "King Chuck" Subject: RE: FegFont To: "fegmaniax" >> isn't there something a bit illegal -- or at least unethical -- about >> this? >> >> i would say that someone's distinctive handwriting is their intellectual >> property just about as much as anything they write with it > Hmm...I understand what you're going at, but I don't think handwriting is > protected, legally...and I *know* that he won't be losing money if > someone decides to make a font of his handwriting. Unless we use it to write checks! :-) Chuck King king_chuck@mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:25:25 -0600 To: glass ground From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michale Brage) Subject: flexi disc I was reading the Goldmine that had published a RH discography. It mentions a flexi disc released with a BOB mag called "Deck of Cards" Anybody have this? I would like a recording of it, if possible. Let me know. Sincerely; Michael Brage [][][][][][][][][][] From: treefrog@netcom.com (Edward of Sim) Subject: Re: worst... (fwd) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 08:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Brooks Martin said: > > Dwarfbeat, hands down wins in this catagory. My friend Shanon and I will > sometimes listen to it to torture ourselves. Just wanted to do the obvious thing and state that Dwarfbeat is easily in my top ten list of Robyn songs. So go figure. :-) peace Edward -- Edward of Sim treefrog@netcom.com "Let's work without theorizing," said Martin; "it's the only way to make life bearable." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:55:07 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: FegFont To: king_chuck@mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >From: IN%"king_chuck@mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com" "King Chuck" 13-SEP-1995 08:19:49.15 >Subj: RE: FegFont > >>> isn't there something a bit illegal -- or at least unethical -- about >>> this? >>> >>> i would say that someone's distinctive handwriting is their intellectual >>> property just about as much as anything they write with it >> Hmm...I understand what you're going at, but I don't think handwriting is >> protected, legally...and I *know* that he won't be losing money if >> someone decides to make a font of his handwriting. > >Unless we use it to write checks! :-) > >Chuck King >king_chuck@mn15-gw.mavd.honeywell.com I was going to have him sign off on my dissertation... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "If absence makes the heart grow fonder --Robyn Hitchcock Then I don't want to see you any more." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 09:58:45 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RH Monologue, 3/19/86 Something I'd like to see more of on this list are transcriptions of Robyn's on-stage monologues. I'll get the ball rolling by offering this blast from the past from an Egyptians concert at the Berkeley Square, Berkeley CA, March 19, 1986. Robyn: Uh, I don't know how many of you were at the previous show in San Francisco but I assume--[crowd cheers]--so you all were, so I don't need to introduce this one again. It's the one about Death coming to the woman and she gets away with it. If you HAVEN'T heard the introduction you'll have to try and listen to the words--I assume the monitor's working out front. If you still can't get the words you have to write to our manager's office in London stating WHY you couldn't hear the words, WHICH words you couldn't hear, and which ones you'd LIKE to hear. This then gets passed by his secretary to me and then I put it at the bottom of my filing cabinet and sell the filing cabinet and go off on a short holiday to Africa to a place where Roger went last year. When I come back I'm unable to read owing to some tropical disease I've contracted. It takes a long time, but it WILL be out on our forthcoming record. [Andy rips right into the opening bass riff of "Lady Waters" amid cheers and laughter from the crowd] Hopefully some of you with massive tape collections will offer up a few more. BTW to those of you who received the 1980 SB tape from me several months ago I've forgotten who you are but feel free to contact me if I never sent you a blank to dub something for me in return. I think Bayard is the only one I've completed the trade with so far. (Thanks for the cool reunion stuff, Bayard) And an aside to DAVE BAKER (sorry, my server won't let me e-mail you... doesn't like _'s in addresses): Except for "Map Reference", most of 154 is pretty slow and gloomy, with much less prominant guitar than on Pink Flag. I love to dig it out on rainy days, though. Judging from some of the responses I've gotten I'd say there are several others on this list who are a little more in the know (and fanatical) about Wire who may be able to communicate with you directly) Keep changing oil and changing gears, Russ. [][][][][][][][][][] From: ZeroSummer@aol.com Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 14:25:08 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Wire (No Robyn Content) <> Perhaps, but I think "I Should Have Known Better" is about as brilliant as a song can get. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 16:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: glass frogs Subject: Re: FegFont > > isn't there something a bit illegal -- or at least unethical -- about > > this? > > i would say that someone's distinctive handwriting is their intellectual > > property just about as much as anything they write with it but does sticking it in the computer make it any less "his"? he has given us free reign in sharing his intellectual property via the live concert recordings and even allowed us to cover his songs. the only reason i can see for him not liking the font idea is, it makes the writing less special if anyone can imitate/duplicate it on a machine. We don't want to dilute his expression, but the writing is aesthetically pleasing and perhaps it is good to share and appreciate it. > > if you're serious about this, you should at least contact mrs. wafflehead > > and have her run the idea by robyn I sent her her Glass Flesh today and passed this question on. > By the way....why exactly *do* we want to be able to type like Robyn? perhaps it will make us more creative writers. ;) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 13 Sep 1995 13:35:35 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Re: reptiles ate my brain To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Reply to: RE>>reptiles ate my brain Little RH content. This is a somewhat associative rambling based upon references to his highness James (Phobosian for "Lizard") Morrisson (Phobosian for "Person with stuff on his head that makes him think he's a king). I'm much amused by this Jim Morrisson humor thing happening. I have had many associations with personages who (puzzling to me) thought that Mr. M. was some sort of diety. Some of the following, I believe to be true. The rest is purely for your entertainment. I think the self-professed lizard king kicked the bucket after Janis, that wacky entertainment trail-blazer who invented vomiting on stage as a form of performance. I understand that Janis thought Jim Morrisson was more of an insect or amoeboid life form than a reptile or a member of any royalty, really, and didn't want to have anything to do with him. He was supposedly pretty crazy about her, though. He died in or near a bathtub in a hotel in France (just outside Lake Michigan). There are those who say that there is an Elvis/Morrisson-bathroom- conspiracy thing about the porcelain and water, and that Richard Milhaus Outhouse Nuthouse Nixon had them both removed from the ranks of the breathing because he was afraid of the way they undulated their collective pelvi, and that Julie might become transfixed by those motions and decide to change her party affiliation. There are a great number of other people who are sure that Jim Morrisson faked his death and is still alive and selling insurance or china pugs or hot dogs or run-on sentences in Muskogee or Tuskeegee or Winnemucca or San Marino. I kind-of hope that Robyn Hitchcock was not too heavily afflicted with the Jim Morrisson influence. If he was, he certainly chose the better moments. I think ol' Jimmy, the reptillian throwback, had a pretty decent band, though. Speaking ill of the (probably) dead, -Mark Gloster (I've been told a few times that I remind people [fans of the Doors] of Jim Morrisson when I perform. I just don't always know what do do with that information. I always try to take it as a compliment.) [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. 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