Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 135 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Re: Least favorite RH Re: Queen Elvis (was Re: least favorite RH) I got the hates for you for D. BAKER, re WIRE (no RH content) Tracks, stethoscopes, waffleheads Re: least favorite RH Re: least favorite... Portland, Live at, but no Arms. Portland Date Least favorites & cover versions repertoire sux Re: least favorite RH optimism? idealism?? no...! Re: Portland, Live at, but no Arms. yes, this thread is unrelated, but.... Berbatis Pan Re: repertoire Re: repertoire Re: yes, this thread is unrelated, but.... Re: the worst Re: soundalikes Re: Worst RH Songs Re: for D. BAKER, re WIRE (no RH content) queen elvis Ian Penman/Spectre Wide Open Star [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 09:46:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Vashty Hawkins To: RH list Subject: Re: Least favorite RH Interesting thread! I've been lurking for a long while but would like to add my 0.02 ... I LIKE Wafflehead! Especially live - the audience were just eating it up, and Robyn seemed to enjoy camping it up all over the stage. Someone mentioned that they hated Wading Through Your Ventilator, which I also love! Its thrashy, has tremendous energy and lots of tortured chord changes. But I digress ... MY MOST FAVORITE RH SONGS Insanely Jealous Flavor of Night Human Music Oceanside 52 Stations Vegetation and Dimes Kingdom of Love DeChirico Street MY LEAST FAVORITE RH SONGS Furry Green Atom Bowl Certainly Cliquot I Something You Tropical Flesh Mandala (great title though, what a shame) Blues in A That's all that comes to mind right now. VAH [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:29:30 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Queen Elvis (was Re: least favorite RH) To: a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >> >queen elvis (there's something >> >unpleasantly presumptuous about a straight guy doing a song about overt >> >gayness) >> >> um, I never took this song to be anything other than an indictment of >> superstardom. >> Am I missing something? >Hmm. I took it as about homosexuality also.. >That bit about hanging in drag before dawn, >"coming out's the hardest part" >"it could break your mother's heart >it could break your sister's heart" >"justify your special ways" > OK, don't laugh, but I always thought it was a song about Madonna...call me crazy but it sorta fits both interpretations.... jay (who had another god awful dream involving John Denver songs...it must mean the End is near) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "They're telling me questions --Robyn Hitchcock And asking me lies." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 10:39:13 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: I got the hates for you To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu With all these dislike posts coming across I'm reminded of an intro story Lyle Lovett tells before his song Fat Babys Got No Pride...its about driving across country with someone he just sorta knew and as they start talking they realize they really don't like the same things, but they develop a great friendship because more important than having common likes is to share the same dislikes...of course we see how his marriage turned out.... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "They're telling me questions --Robyn Hitchcock And asking me lies." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 08:58:28 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: for D. BAKER, re WIRE (no RH content) ****sorry to post this to the list but the e-mail bounced**** David, I have but two WIRE albums at home--Pink Flag and 154. Will I find that on either of those albums? wantin' to check it out, Russ. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 17:58:39 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: The Can Opener Subject: Tracks, stethoscopes, waffleheads It's a bit late to contribute anything that hasn't been said about least favourite tracks. I can't listen to Wafflehead (and it's _nothing_ like HOTHEAD, which is fabulous, almost as good as ASHTRAY HEART) or SHAPES TURN INTO ANIMALS. And I really like HEAVEN, POINT IT AT GRAN and INTO THE ARMS OF LOVE, which have all been specially vilified. I think one of the reasons that we are Hitchcock fans is that he tries different things at different times; he doesn't write the same song over and over again (apart from ACID BIRD and VIBRATING) and isn't afraid of trying new things on new albums. So you go and buy the record without knowing what to expect, which is more than you can say with anyone else now that Syd Barrett and Captain Beefheart have given up... Which reminds me, guess which song on PIPER wasn't written by Syd? Yes, it's PICK UP THY STETHOSCOPE AND WALK by gloomy old Roger Waters. - Mike (Color Out Of Space) Godwin P.S. I would really like to hear someone singing OPEL too, and Robyn Hitchcock ought to be the person to try it. Have you noticed how the tune is nicked from EBONY EYES ("On a weekend pass, I didn't have time...")? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:38:07 +0100 To: Livia , your mom From: andyh@pavilion.co.uk (Andy Holyer) Subject: Re: least favorite RH At 3:49 pm 7/9/95 -0700, Livia wrote: > >songs that i don't like that come quickly to mind are tropical flesh >mandala (irritating musically) and queen elvis (there's something >unpleasantly presumptuous about a straight guy doing a song about overt >gayness) > I've never interpreted Queeen Elvis that way. Besides, it became cemented into my conciousness one time I was listening to it just after the Steven Milligan (SP?) affair, and the lines "See that man who mows his lawn/He'll hang in drag before the dawn" jumped out at me. (To explain, in case the story never got out of the UK, The Milligan was a conservative MP who was found dead, in stockings and bondage gear, with a plastic bag over his head and a tangerine soaked in amyl nitrate in his mouth...) >i just went and had a quick look through my cds for other songs i can >live without. (mystic trip, linctus house, insect mother, strawberry >mind, winchester, america.) none of them are really bad, i just find >them boring and want to skip past them to something better And America is one of my favourites... Andy Holyer, Brighton, UK At Home, +44 973 405836 [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:02:15 -0700 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: sherrett@teleport.com (Jason Sherrett) Subject: Re: least favorite... >susan and i used to plan dastardly things to do to robyn when he played >this song. >these missions were never completed, mind you, but we have a >standing committment >to scream whenever he plays this at shows we go to. > >woj Someone remind me not to go to a show with Woj and Susan. My least favorite Robyn tune has to be Arms of Love, as unpopular as that opinion may be. That song just doesn't have any of the elements that I appreciate in Robyn's work. And for that matter I don't really care for Respect as a whole either. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:11:33 -0700 (PDT) From: karate boy To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Portland, Live at, but no Arms. Robyn will be appearing in Portland, OR, on Wednesday, September 27 at Berbatis Pan. Ticket info at Ticketmaster 224-4400 and venue info at 248-4579. Cost is $10 with Morris Tepper and Tiddas opening. I have not a clue who or what these opening acts may be. I suspect they are human. (the venue is a no-kids-allowed-over-twenty-onish-sort-of-thing) that all, .chris [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 13:13:29 -0700 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: sherrett@teleport.com (Jason Sherrett) Subject: Portland Date Portland Fegamaniax rejoice! Exactly one year to the day from his last Portland appearance Robyn returns! Robyn will appear Wednesday, September 27th, 9:30 PM at Berbati's Pan. Morris Tepper opens. Tickets $10. Berbati's is not the best venue for a solo acoustic show, but nonetheless I'm elated Robyn will be in Portland. I was positive he would have to skip Portland this year with the NXNW conference taking over the clubs. If any other NW Fegamniax would like to meet before the show we could gather at Captain Ankeny's Well around the corner for a pitcher or two. See you there! -Jason [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 08 Sep 1995 17:16:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Frankel Subject: Least favorites & cover versions To: Fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu I can't say that I really hate any of Robyn's songs, but my least favorite ones are the "novelty" items like "Furry Green Atom Bowl," "Man with the Lightbulb Head," and "Wafflehead." While I would't sit down and listen to these individually, I think that in the context of the albums they add to the richness and diversity of the material. Also, besides the tape that people on this list made, has anyone else covered any RH songs on "official releases?" Ken Frankel P.S. What's this toast thing all about? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 08 Sep 95 18:38:54 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: repertoire BLACK SNAKE DIAMOND ROLE is a strong selection of tunes. i haven't heard the rhino version of 'the man who invented himself' but i do like the saxaphone. the music is tight and urgent. 'acid bird' secures his place as the "godfather of modern psychedlica". 'i watch the cars' is the least interesting lyrically, but it typifies the sound. does 'the reptile' sound like 'i want you(she's so heavy)' to anyone else? i used to really hate 'do policemen sing?' but now i find it quite entertaining. GROOVY DECOY/DECAY/GRAVY DECO have their moments. who can deny the bittersweet poinency of '52 stations' or the dizzying decadence of 'america'? the music is very understated. there is a sensual kind of fuzzy feel that borders on goofyness. the sound is a precurser to the a&m production we know so well. it seems to substitute substance for style. 'how do you work this thing?' is the low point, but still kind of funny. 'st. petersburg' is all saxaphone. i like the demos the best. I OFTEN DREAM OF TRAINS is pure poetry. the sound is crystal clear and very intimate. every tune is achingly beautiful. a perfect mix of robyn's dark and light sides. 'uncorrected personality traits' is an instant classic. 'autumn is your last chance' gets played over and over. 'ye sleeping knights of jesus' is rip roaring fun. i don't skip any of the tunes. FEGMANIA!is infectious fun. the beginning of a new age. the production is rich and the effect is addiction. 'insect mother' and 'bells of rhymney' always make me sigh. even the goofyness of 'the man with the lightbulb head' sounds good. GOTTA LET THIS HEN OUT! just when you thought it was safe to leave the house. this is as close to a greatest hits package as you can get. the energy makes these versions at least as good as the originals, some better. this is probably the best starting point for any neophyte. ELEMENT OF LIGHT is flawless. my first purchase. i bought it because i thought robyn looked tweaked on the cover. little did i know what i was in for. it is without a doubt my favorite of the egyptians albums. what strikes me most about it is the fretless bass. it sounds so full and the lines are so intricate. 'lady waters & the hooded one' always leaves me swooning. 'airscape' makes the most of every situation, proving that there are no victims of circumstance, only of soullessness. the cathartic bitterness of 'the president' is matched with the hilarious 'bass'. could 'somewhere apart' sound any more like john lennon? INVISIBLE HITCHCOCK the fact that robyn has albums like this to compile songs he never got around to putting out is simply amazing. the level of quality is even more incredible. some of this stuff is the closest to a mainstream sound as he's ever done. from the toe-tapping 'star of hairs' to the schmaltzy 'falling leaves', there is something for everyone. 'i got a message for you' and 'all i wanna do is fall in love' are some of his most catchy ditties. some of it is really over the top. i have skipped many of the tracks in my day. definitely his most diverse collection. GLOBE OF FROGS is robyn at his absolute goofyest. the perils of aquatic lust and the lurking cobwebbed corners of our un/subconscious are themes that are not new, but somehow seem brought to the level of parody here. the production seems a bit overblown with the new contract. everything is turned way up. still, the whole thing is big fun and it sounds like they had fun doing it. some of the songs are among his best. 'chinese bones' takes you on a mystic trip. 'flesh number one' shows just how little lovers notice what goes on around them. 'globe of frogs' is a wild foray into indian rhythms. it is actually the album i find least satisfying. i find myself skipping past 'luminous rose', 'sleeping with your devil mask', and 'the shapes between us turn into animals'. QUEEN ELVIS brings the guitar back to the foreground. the band sounds fantastic. peter buck helps a lot. every song is well done. most of the album is melancholy and beautiful with upbeat punctuation ('freeze' and 'madonna of the wasps') bookending the many heartaching performances. the churning solo of 'knife' is gnarly. i love the chorus in 'superman' and the staggered vocals in the verses. 'autumn sea' was my first taste of ramblin' robyn. 'one long pair of eyes' and 'veins of the queen' blend the ache with a subtle touch of tongue in cheek. 'the devil's coachman' is the finest moment in what seems to be an underrated album. EYE comes in the middle of the a&m madness. that is the most reasonable explanation for why it seems so cathartic. there is a lot of bitterness mingled with real feeling. some of the songs are so brutally honest, it leaves you wondering what else can be said. this is the only way it leaves me cold "as kimberly would say". the hairs on my neck stand on end. 'executioner' is virile and ugly and real. 'linctus house' lays it all out to picked apart by those who don't know any better. it is the anger of this album that puts it a slight notch above TRAINS for me. every song has it's own life. it draws you in, chews you up, and spits you out, never to be the same again. PERSPEX ISLAND is robyn's pop music tour de force. for anyone (what floor of a&m are we talking about?) who thought it couldn't be done. the sound is awesome. 'oceanside' is motivational. we can thank the single for lots of new fans. 'lysander' weaves a shimmering web of guitar magic. 'vegetation and dimes' creates a moody feel that isn't easy to shake (though i am continually annoyed by the insuficient amount of characters in the 1-800-reaper number). the only criticisms i have are lyrical. 'if you go away' sounds like someone else wrote it. the chorus of 'ultra unbelievable love' leaves me unsatisfied. much of the imagry is less interesting to me than on other albums. less imaginative or perhaps it seems to cater to some other tastes? 'earthly paradise' does seem to go on and on. 'ride' does too, but i like it. a mixed bag for die hard fans. it just doesn't stand up to much of the catalogue. i can't help but love it though. RESPECT is robyn's most lush sonic landscape yet. 'arms of love' and 'the moon inside' are sweeping and epic. 'then you're dust' is rich and lovely. 'the yip song' starts out as irritating but only gets better with more listening. knowing what it's about helped. 'when i was dead' is great fun. so is the lip smacking wackyness of 'wafflehead'. my least favorite is 'the wreck of the arthur lee'. when i first got this album i hated it. i made a point of not listening to it. it has turned out to be quite nice. YOU AND OBLIVION another compendium of unreleased, wonderfully underproduced tunes. it is much more consistant than INVISIBLE. the songs sound as if they were recorded in the same week. i have heard live versions that had more of that EYE power, but the songs themselves are the kind that seep into your subconscious making you go back wondering where you heard that riff. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:13:12 -0600 (MDT) From: David Scales a/k/a Captain Oblivion To: Chuck Tomlinson cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: sux Okay, okay, but only under duress (whoever she is): The Royal We Do No Like: "Caroline Says" "Insect Mother" "Strawberry Mind" "Ted, Woody & Junior" "Superman" (and I only say that because Sonic Youth does it better) ..and that's about it actually. Hmph. I expected it to be more painful. Dave Scales / Captain Oblivion "He wonders if he, too, might have made a similar mistake." --Talking Heads [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 19:22:24 -0600 (MDT) From: David Scales a/k/a Captain Oblivion To: Livia cc: your mom Subject: Re: least favorite RH On Thu, 7 Sep 1995, Livia wrote: > > Balloon Man, because in that song RH follows one of his best lines ever > > ("And it rained like a slow divorce") with one of his worst lines ever ("And > > I wished I could ride a horse"). > > I hate it when my heroes show their weaknesses like that. Agreed. I still use that phrase when talking to my mom. She's utterly clueless about it. (So am I, but who am I to tell?) > i like most of everyone else's least favorites. even wafflehead I love love love "Wafflehead". It's the sound of Barry White in Hell, and I didn't think he could do that. Of course, I had never thought of Barry White in Hell, so two points to RH for originality. Dave Scales / Captain Oblivion "He wonders if he, too, might have made a similar mistake." --Talking Heads [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:00:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: globe of toast Subject: optimism? idealism?? no...! i would just like to publicly give thanks to kenster aka ostrander for that stark raving positive post about the hitch oeuvre. while it is interesting to explore the weak points of our hero's body of work, I'm glad he does not follow the discussions here. it was good to read all those positive, well written points. perhaps a new thread is in order? or a question: what occupations has RH held besides musician? did he go straight from school to music? how could he afford to eat? (and as an aside to ken f: ever since the great toast famine/disk drive crash of 1990, the Toast Goddess has seen fit to watch over our little band of fegs. I suspect you'll be hearing from her soon.) bayard [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:04:57 -0800 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: kreichs@rain.com (Karen Reichstein) Subject: Re: Portland, Live at, but no Arms. >Robyn will be appearing in Portland, OR, on Wednesday, September 27 at >Berbatis Pan. Ticket info at Ticketmaster 224-4400 and venue info at >248-4579. Cost is $10 with Morris Tepper and Tiddas opening. I have not a >clue who or what these opening acts may be. I suspect they are human. >(the venue is a no-kids-allowed-over-twenty-onish-sort-of-thing) Oh, am I glad I'm over twenty-one. Several years back, Robyn played at the now-defunct Melody Ballroom, and, being underage at the time, all of us juveniles were packed way in the back, literally roped off like cattle in order to separate us from our drinking elders. Someone passed around a petition in protest of these inhumane seating practices, but Melody Ballroom closed down not long after anyway. Oh, and in regards to Woj's comment about "I've Got A Message For You:" Yes, he does seem to play a campy version of this every time he comes round, and, much as I like this song, the novelty wore off long ago. Has anyone noticed that he also subsitutes the *same* last line: "I've got a message for you/you've got a message for me/we both like Bryan Ferry"? I consider any Robyn show, lackluster songs or not, to be an annual treat. But If he sings "Raymond Chandler Evening," I can die happily. --Karen "...And back across your belly, there crawl the dusty bees." --R. Hitchcock [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 8 Sep 1995 23:23:56 -0800 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: kreichs@rain.com (Karen Reichstein) Subject: yes, this thread is unrelated, but.... Just a thought: There's a new font utility out which allows one to send a sample of one's own handwriting to some font production company, and for an admittedly expensive fee of about $50 or so, one can purchase a font written in one's own handwriting--a boon for those of us who spend more time in front of the computer than the writing desk. Wouldn't it be nifty to make a font out of Robyn's distinctive, loopy-esque handwriting (seen on the backs of albums like Eye, IODOT)? We could call it "FegFont," or perhaps "The Lines Between Us." Well, like I said, it's just a thought. "...And back across your belly, there crawl the dusty bees." --R. Hitchcock [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 00:08:34 -0700 From: Jon-Ross Habina Subject: Berbatis Pan To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu My girlfriend and I will be making the trek between Medford and Portland for the September 27 gig at Berbatis Pan. For the cost of your own ticket and a few measly bucks for fuel, you could see the show. We can't guarantee you a ride home, but you can get there in bloody-Yank-car comfort, cheap (and in good time too). So if you've got the ducats for the tix and you're between Medford and Portland somewhere along I-5, drop me a line. Thanx, Jon-Ross (& Colette) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 9 Sep 95 16:32:16 WST From: baker_d@ee.uwa.edu.au (david baker) To: kenster@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: repertoire Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Just a little note to say that I found Kenster's appraisal of Robyn's post-Soft Boy recordings great to read. As a huge Hitchcock fan, I always like to read positive reviews of his work and the fact that it was written by a fellow Feg did nothing diminish the experience. However, considering the mostly positive tone of the reviews, I feel compelled to add that Sleeping with Your Devil Mask is one of my favourite Hitchcock tunes and one of the tracks that I skip to rather than past. (It does sound very similar to Syd Barrett's Rats though). Cheers, Dave [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 12:33:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: repertoire To: david baker Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu This was posted by: Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us On Sat, 9 Sep 1995, david baker wrote: > However, considering the mostly positive tone of the reviews, I feel > compelled to add that Sleeping with Your Devil Mask is one of my > favourite Hitchcock tunes and one of the tracks that I skip to rather > than past. (It does sound very similar to Syd Barrett's Rats though). Hmm. I used to like it a bit, but I have to agree with RObyn "There's a lot of good stuff that didn't make it into this song and a lot of silly stuff that did" And, yeah, it does sound a bit like "Rats". ANd is it just me or does "I Got the Hots for You" sound a lot like "Maisie"? ps. How long does it take to get a catalog from Mrs. W? How much is postage there? (hoping that he put the correct amount of stamps on and that it takes about a month to get a catalog...otherwise he's got to start over again) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 17:25:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: Karen Reichstein cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: yes, this thread is unrelated, but.... karen ruminated: > Wouldn't it be nifty to make a font out of Robyn's distinctive, loopy-esque > handwriting (seen on the backs of albums like Eye, IODOT)? We could call it > "FegFont," or perhaps "The Lines Between Us." I bet a diligent feg with a scanner and a public domain font program could accomplish this without paying the $50 fee. the only problem is getting a clear sample of robyn's writing. he's probably too busy for penmanship excercises but a skilled mimic/artist might be able to forge bobby's script. would have to be a long font, to have room for the bottoms of those f's and y's. if robyn's willing to provide the sample i'd contribute to the $50 (if I can use the font on my ibm. is it mac-only?) good idea, I'd like to see it happen. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 9 Sep 1995 19:19:45 -0400 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: the worst >My vote goes to Luminous Rose, one of the most annoying songs I've ever >heard...and it just goes on and on and on... Along the same lines, I can't stand "The Black Crow Knows." BTW, I _like_ "Wafflehead." Then Cath said, >I believe that there is often a very fine line between true brilliance and >utter stupidity. My favorite songwriters tend to be those who prove this >point. ; D That's from Spinal Tap, "There's a fine line between clever and stupid." Words to live by. Terry, th' human mellotron said, >Oh...and I really hate September Cones, Keeping Still, Stranded into the >Future and a good portion of the rest of Y&O Hey, I like those!! Especially September Cones! >I love all of Piper at the Gates of Dawn, except for Take up thy >Stethoscope...just a bit of fluff separating whatever the two songs on >the other sides of it.. It's funny that Take Up Thy... is the only song that Syd _didn't_ have a hand in. It's a Roger Waters song. >Hmm. I took it as about homosexuality also.. So did I. On the Respect tour he introduced it by saying, "This song is called 'Coming out of the closet's hard when you think you're straight.'" >Foxes Do Not Exist! Sorry, Terry, but I have seen the sleeping knights of foxes. I've seen a fox with these two eyes -------> 8| Speaking of the worst, I think we all know I can't stand "Sleeping Knights," but love the version Kevin did on GF. ---Mike (THIS SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION) Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com mikester@bix.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:31:43 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sebastian Hagedorn To: david baker Cc: h.l.osullivan@herts.ac.uk, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: soundalikes On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, david baker wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > > The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for > > Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had > > flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. > > Interesting that you should mention Robyn sounding like The Church because > I remember an interview with Steve Kilby in which he was talking about one > of his songs off the album Starfish, Reptile. He was saying that he wrote > the song because he wanted to write something slimey, slippery and sinister > (i.e. reptilian). To me, this sounds like an exact discription of Robyn's > Lizard, off BSDR, five years earlier. When I listened to Queen Elvis for the first time I thought the beginning to Madonna OTW sounded exactly like The Church. Take about any song off The Blurred Crusade or Starfish and compare for yourself. That's what I love about The Church. What I hate about them is their attitude. What arrogant bastards they can be! Greetings, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn "I am unable, yonder beggar cries, To stand or move. If it be true, he lies!" Cologne University, Germany E-Mail: Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de WWW: http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:38:36 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sebastian Hagedorn To: ZeroSummer@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Worst RH Songs On Thu, 7 Sep 1995 ZeroSummer@aol.com wrote: > To respectfully counter Jay's criticism, I adore Luminous Rose. > > You know what really annoys me? The Man with the Lightbulb Head. I know it > has its fans, but . . . > > I agree Superman and Wafflehead are weak, but they stretch into the realm of > novelty (as does Lightbulb Head). But these can be excused as such. In > general, Robyn's worst songs are those few that are simply boring, like > Cathedral and The Fly. Of course, some would stick Luminous Rose in this > category, but I think it's too great lyrically. Cathedral?? You've GOT to be kidding!! That's one of my favorites. Both the music and the lyrics move me no end. I absolutely hate Grooving On An Inner Plane. Greetings, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn "I am unable, yonder beggar cries, To stand or move. If it be true, he lies!" Cologne University, Germany E-Mail: Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de WWW: http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 14:57:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: Sebastian Hagedorn To: Russ Reynolds Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: for D. BAKER, re WIRE (no RH content) On Fri, 8 Sep 1995, Russ Reynolds wrote: > > ****sorry to post this to the list but the e-mail bounced**** > > David, > I have but two WIRE albums at home--Pink Flag and 154. Will I find that on > either of those albums? > wantin' to check it out, Well, I don't know what song you're talking about, but you absolutely need Chairs Missing as well - if only to have Outdoor Miner! The long version is a bonus track on the reissue by EMI. Greetings, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn "I am unable, yonder beggar cries, To stand or move. If it be true, he lies!" Cologne University, Germany E-Mail: Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de WWW: http://www.spinfo.uni-koeln.de/~hgd/ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 95 14:13:33 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: queen elvis i've heard robyn say that this song (or probably the concept behind the title, since this was around the time the album of the same name came out) was just as easily something like "president lennon". he just liked the juxtaposition of anglo-american icons. "it is about the descent into stardom" as he introduced it during the fabulous (by the way i'd like to point out that for the latest rhino tour i heard 'i got a message for you' nary a "huh-huh" single note for the four performances) EYE tour. as the king himself points out, "a writer ("you've got to be kidding") once said that life is a stage and you must play a part". it's all about image. what you project becomes difficult to discern from what you really have going on inside. this is what the whole point is: can you handle the brutal honesty involved in projecting your true heart. will the reactions (ie. disappointment, disgust, or worse still, disinterest) of other people to your innermost secrets ruin your resolve? for steven milligan it tainted his experience in a way he couldn't handle. i don't know if the reference is to that particular case, but it is illustrative. i don't think the song is about overt gayness. overt queerness perhaps. i do think it's about coming to grips with your own identity. "in the mirror you and me" infinitely redefining and rediscovering what we think we want to be. i like to think of robert de niro's one-sided dialogue in 'taxi driver' when he finally says "well, there's nobody else here." i think for robyn the fear of catering to some amorphous sense of success "'cause you think it might rub off on you" creates a very personal sense of his dislike for the music industry. what's to like? whether or not he has done more than the expected amount of prostitution for his craft has been a much debated topic. "people get what they deserve". especially sell-outs. it is one thing to challenge ourselves. it is quite another to create impediments to our own psychological well-being. still, people do it all the time. what is worse? the filthy rumors we perk our ears at or the boring reality that so often disappoints in comparison? i guess the end result is that we have to create ourselves. if we let others do it for us, then we have lost our individuality. "have you got the nerve?" ken 'who avoids mowing the lawn' [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 19:39:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Ian Penman/Spectre To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps Just thinking.. Who is Ian Penman (as in "The Lonesome Death Of...") and is there any chance that the Invisible Hits liner notes is referring to him? And How was the "Spectre" album distributed? [Not asking to get a copy of "Spectre", just trying to figure out how to be on "The List" if he does somehting like that again] Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us ps. Could someone check my tab for "Wide Open Star". It seemed right when I wrote it, but now it seems totally out of tune. Thanks [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 10 Sep 1995 21:03:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Wide Open Star To: Pretty Girls and Anglepoise lamps > ps. Could someone check my tab for "Wide Open Star". It seemed right > when I wrote it, but now it seems totally out of tune. Thanks Sorry about the false alert. Turns out that my tab was for the In-Store version, not "NetSurfer Ghost" version. Sorry. Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...