Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative commands to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 133 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Subject: Tour dates in the US Subject: soundalikes Subject: Yip singing contenders Subject: Re: Yip singing contenders Subject: Queen Elvis isn't Dead Subject: Surgery Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: airplay...in an element of silence. Subject: Best of Soft Boys Subject: RE: Yip singing contenders Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: 5 Fave Records Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: Glass Flesh Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys Subject: Re: Queen Elvis isn't Dead Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys Subject: NY area date! Subject: Robyn in Seattle Subject: Re: shadow cat? Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: Re: soundalikes Subject: Aloha Seattle Subject: Thought some of you might want to see this Subject: If You Listen to Live Tapes, Check This Hardware Out Subject: Isle of Wight book; token "Yip" Subject: Bay Area Fegs: SF show! Subject: Re: shadow cat? Subject: Re: shadow cat? Subject: Re: Aloha Seattle Subject: Re: shadow cat? Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys Subject: In the hopes of being the first to answer this [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 09:13:56 -0500 From: stevenson@ssc.wisc.edu (John Stevenson (608) 265-4065) To: "fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu"@ssc.wisc.edu Subject: Tour dates in the US I am apparently a bit on the clueless side. WHat is the word on Robyn tour dates for the midwestern US? feel free to e-mail me directly! john [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:29:58 +0000 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: h.l.osullivan@herts.ac.uk (Helen O'Sullivan) Subject: soundalikes I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound like other people. Most of the time I would say he is unique,(at least he doesn't sound like any of the other bands I've heard of) except: When Robyn says "wheeled him in upon a trolley" (Yip Song) he sounds like Damon out of Blur! The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. And any other people of Irish descent who were brought up listening to Dubliners and Clancy Brothers LP's might know which song The Abandoned Brain reminds me of - I just can't put my finger on it, but I'm pretty sure it was the Dubliners and that they were under the influence of copious amounts of whiskey! And the Kershaw version of "So You Think You're In Love" sounds like Peter Perrett (Only Ones) to me. Just my humble little opinions. Anyone else? Bye bye Helen. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:38:38 +0100 (BST) From: M R Godwin To: The Can Opener Subject: Yip singing contenders I gather from recent mailings that there is some doubt about the pre-eminence of THE YIP SONG among yipping records. I would just like to point out that: In the Velvet Underground's COYOTE, there is no yipping whatsoever (although occasionally audiences attempt to join in with a sort of yowling noise). On Warren Zevon's WEREWOLVES OF LONDON, the noise is unequivocally a Howl, _not_ a Yip. On SHE'LL BE COMING ROUND THE MOUNTAIN WHEN SHE COMES, the noise is Hi-yi-yippee-yippee-eye, which has much more melisma than the plain Yip (but note the anticipatory reference to RH's Eye album). On Walt Disney's ZIP A DEE DOO DAH, the word is clearly Zip and not Yip. On Frankie Laine's RAWHIDE, the noise is more of a "Heeyah!" than a Yip. On Lita Rosa's HOW MUCH IS THAT DOGGIE IN THE WINDOW, the barking noise, although admittedly yip-like, only occurs once per chorus (at the end of the line "How much is that doggie in the window?", and there is nothing to compare with the final chorus of THE YIP SONG, which, if my memory serves me correctly goes "Yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip YIP" (last one louder than previous ones). I think that settles the matter, but would welcome other contributions. Mike PS I forgot Queen Elvis on my list: it's sitting on my shelf but I don't remember ever having played it... [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 10:00:03 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Yip singing contenders To: hssmrg@bath.ac.uk Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >On Lita Rosa's HOW MUCH IS THAT DOGGIE IN THE WINDOW, the barking noise, >although admittedly yip-like, only occurs once per chorus (at the end of >the line "How much is that doggie in the window?", and there is nothing >to compare with the final chorus of THE YIP SONG, which, if my memory >serves me correctly goes "Yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip >yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip yip >yip yip yip yip yip yip YIP" (last one louder than previous ones). > >I think that settles the matter, but would welcome other contributions. > most people don't realize that by deconstructing Pink Floyd's _TheWall_ (playing it backwards as really high then really slow speeds) it turns out that every noise on that album is composed of millions of very small yips all uttered in about 15 breaths...I'm telling you those guys were geniuses... jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "They're telling me questions --Robyn Hitchcock And asking me lies." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 23:29:41 WST From: baker_d@ee.uwa.edu.au (david baker) To: bedbugs@evergreen.edu Subject: Queen Elvis isn't Dead Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Sep 5, Brooks Martin wrote: >I must say that Queen Elvis is better than 95% of music by artists other >than Robyn, but of his stuff, it's the worst. I think all the songs are >good but it just doesn't work as an album. I was very depressed when >that album came out because I thought that he had lost it. I'm glad I >was wrong. and from my time subscribing to fegmaniax, he seems to be far from alone in this view. However, I view it very differently. Superman doesn't really work and I personally find that One Long Pair of Eyes is a fairly dreary song which doesn't move me in any way but apart from that, I feel it is a very strong album. The Devil's Coachman is one Robyn's songs which makes the word genius come to mind and I love the rippling, surging guitar which underscores the brilliant Freeze. I can see why people find the spoken parts of Autumn Sea (or is that Sky) annoying but I think that overall the song is one of Robyns best. It has an mood which reminds me of 52 Stations and has an eerie, psychedelic backing which I love. And the lyrics fit into this evocative mood beautifully: 'Somewhere in the Autumn Sea, the kind of girl you are to me, I stole you from a very special friend, decided the friendship had to end and hooowww..' I also find Knife and Swirling quite haunting, disturbing songs. (Yes, I like songs which disturb me, but I won't go into that). Knife is probably deliberately like this, the majestic Swirling's effect is harder to explain. Anyway, without dribbling on too much about it, I find Queen Elvis quite a potent album with a good balance of pleasant tunes (Madonna of the Wasps, Veins of the Queen) and more challenging material and I don't think it is a case of Robyn losing 'it' at all. IMHO, of course, Dave Baker [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:21:56 -0600 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: mbrage@surgery.bsd.uchicago.edu (Michale Brage) Subject: Surgery >> PS Has anyone else noticed that although You and Oblivion claims to be >> all previously unreleased material, "Surgery" appeared many years ago on the >> video release of Gotta Let This Hen Out? Are there any other tracks which >>>>>have >> appeared already? >> >Yep, only it's surgery again, I think. B-side of "Balloon Man" I think. >I wonder how they call *that* unreleased. __________________________ Surgery was released as a flexi disc that went with either a Bucketfull of Brains or a Bob mag. A live version of Birdshead was on a compilation CD called "Pave the Earth". Ghost Ship (or a version of) was on a B-side of "Balloon Man". Sincerely; Michael Brage [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia To: your mom Subject: Re: soundalikes On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound > like other people. Most of the time I would say he is unique,(at least he > doesn't sound like any of the other bands I've heard of) except: > When Robyn says "wheeled him in upon a trolley" (Yip Song) he > sounds like Damon out of Blur! > The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for > Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had > flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. > And any other people of Irish descent who were brought up listening > to Dubliners and Clancy Brothers LP's might know which song The Abandoned > Brain reminds me of - I just can't put my finger on it, but I'm pretty sure > it was the Dubliners and that they were under the influence of copious > amounts of whiskey! > And the Kershaw version of "So You Think You're In Love" sounds > like Peter Perrett (Only Ones) to me. > Just my humble little opinions. Anyone else? parts of he's a reptile are very much like old bowie (the way his voice goes deep on "tonight"). deliberately, i assume [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 05 Sep 95 13:55:15 EST From: kenster@MIT.EDU (ostrander) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: airplay...in an element of silence. >A thought... Are Robyn's US fans mainly concentrated in cities which >have a sufficiently enlightened radio station? There's next to nothing >around here (the SF Bay Area), but when I'm visiting Philadelphia, for >example, there's a terrific station (I forget the callsign, it's >88.5FM I believe) which plays a great selection--even some RH! I bet >there are more fans in that area, if only because they hear his stuff >on the radio. Your comments? to hear a robyn song on any radio station (i'm talking even "so you think you're in love", "radio storm", and "balloon man") is truly a feat of some mystical force beyond my reckoning. suffice to say, it is just about never. the vapid upper eshcelons of the corporate (that is, the radio stations that most people listen to, sadly as it may be) have no need for spirits hanging ten or any of that zany fegmania. i think there should be some heavy petitioning for the sequel (if there is one in the works) to 'pump up the volume' to include some soft boys when christian gets out of jail. radio piracy forever! ken "there's a plane crashing down on the studio but we're in luck; we're not there." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 13:11:39 -0500 From: David Witzany To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Best of Soft Boys There's a record store hereabouts with a 2-CD set called something like "The Soft Boys, 1975-1981". All of the titles look really familiar, from following the various threads on this list. Is this set a good deal for a serious Robyn fan, or am I better off hunting for all of the original releases these tunes were distilled from? Its big advantages are a reasonable price (US$25) and being right here right now. On the other hand, I usually avoid best of sets, because if I like a group at all, I want all the "lesser" material that only the true fans heard the first time around, but that weren't really inferior to the "hits," either. Can any Soft Boys fans who've seen this release give a quick review? Thanks. --David Witzany witzany@uiuc.edu (Univ. of IL, Champaign) ......one of Nature's bounds checkers [][][][][][][][][][] From: "Winkworth, Nick SJ" To: Vyrna Knowl Subject: RE: Yip singing contenders Date: Tue, 05 Sep 95 11:15:00 PDT Brilliant, Mike! Your posting is a definite front runner for this years coveted "Golden Yip" award! -The Bellman [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:07:43 -0700 From: Jon-Ross Habina Subject: Re: soundalikes To: Livia cc: your mom On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Livia wrote: > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) > From: Livia > To: your mom > Subject: Re: soundalikes > > On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > > > I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound > > like other people. Most of the time I would say he is unique,(at least he > > doesn't sound like any of the other bands I've heard of) except: > > When Robyn says "wheeled him in upon a trolley" (Yip Song) he > > sounds like Damon out of Blur! > > The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for > > Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had > > flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. > > And any other people of Irish descent who were brought up listening > > to Dubliners and Clancy Brothers LP's might know which song The Abandoned > > Brain reminds me of - I just can't put my finger on it, but I'm pretty sure > > it was the Dubliners and that they were under the influence of copious > > amounts of whiskey! > > And the Kershaw version of "So You Think You're In Love" sounds > > like Peter Perrett (Only Ones) to me. > > Just my humble little opinions. Anyone else? > > parts of he's a reptile are very much like old bowie (the way his voice > goes deep on "tonight"). deliberately, i assume > I can only add that a good friend and I both feel that "Somewhere Apart" from Element of Light sounds an awful lot like mid-70s John Lennon. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:21:51 -0700 From: Jon-Ross Habina Subject: 5 Fave Records To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu This is my humble submission as to my fave five, with a word or two why. 1. I Often Dream of Trains Emotionally satisfying, musically free 2. Eye Same as above with 4 more years' life experience 3. Element of Light Hands down best Egyptians record. The playing, songs, harmonies, all among the best I've ever heard. 4. Underwater Moonlight Yeah, I *know* it's the Soft Boys, but Robyn is definitely front and center. Besides, some of my favorite alltime Hitchcock tunes can be found there, and it all still sounds fresh and exciting 16 years after it was released. 5. Queen Elvis It's taken some slagging in recent posts, but I like its directness and *love* the songs/sound! "Knife" is simple and terrible and true, "Madonna of The Wasps" is also gorgeous, and "The Devil's Coachman" is sheer genius. My own two pennies' worth, for what it's worth. Cheers, Jon-Ross [][][][][][][][][][] From: treefrog@netcom.com (Edward of Sim) Subject: Re: soundalikes To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 14:53:24 -0700 (PDT) This thread got me to thinking how much, the first time I heard "Blues in A" on Invisible Hitchcock, I thought the vocal sounded just like Gordon Gano of the Violent Fennes. And, as J-R said, "Somewhere Apart" is undoubtebly Lennon's ghost. :-) Then again, terrible as it seems, the first time I heard "Flavour of Night" I thought it sounded just like Al Stewart. Oh, and another friend of mine called Thom thinks the backing vocals on the chorus of "Dwarfbeat" sound just like mid-70s Bowie, and he's right! peace, all! EoS -- Edward of Sim treefrog@netcom.com "Let's work without theorizing," said Martin; "it's the only way to make life bearable." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 23:00:02 +0100 To: h.l.osullivan@herts.ac.uk (Helen O'Sullivan), fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: andyh@pavilion.co.uk (Andy Holyer) Subject: Re: soundalikes At 2:29 pm 5/9/95 +0000, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: ... > And the Kershaw version of "So You Think You're In Love" sounds >like Peter Perrett (Only Ones) to me. Equally well, the other week I was listening to The Only Ones and it struck me how much "The Beast" sounds like a Robyn (or at least, a Soft Boys) song... Andy Holyer, Brighton, UK At Home, +44 973 405836 [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:15:11 -0400 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Glass Flesh Ok, everyone. The wait was definatly worth it. It's great to get some glimpse into the personalities of a bunch of people here. Some fav moments upon first listening: James' version of Serpent. Airscape Queen of Eyes Bayard's contributions Destroy You (duh.) Brenda. I don't know _how_ Kevin was able to keep a straight face during that. Ye Sleeping Knights. A version that dosen't annoy me. More reviews after I listen for a bit more. ---Mike (THIS SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION) Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com mikester@bix.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:15:06 -0400 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: witzany@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys >Can any Soft Boys fans who've seen this release give a quick review? There's quite a bit of oddities, live bits, and alternate takes to make this worth the money. I was on the fence for a while about it, until I read the back of the CD and found all that unreleased stuff. ---Mike (THIS SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION) Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com mikester@bix.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 18:14:59 -0400 From: mikeb@usa1.com (Mike Breen) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Queen Elvis isn't Dead >However, I view it very differently. Superman doesn't really work IMO, Superman works far better on the Kershaw Sessions CD. >Anyway, without dribbling on too much about it, I find Queen Elvis quite a >potent album with a good balance of pleasant tunes (Madonna of the Wasps, >Veins of the Queen) Madonna of the Wasps is one of his best songs, IMO. Pop don't get much more perfect than that. Sounds great real loud too, especially the begining "IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS THIIIIIIIIIS LOOOOOVVVVEEEEEEE"'s ---Mike (THIS SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION) Check out the Other Days home page at http://www1.usa1.com/~mikeb/odays.html mikeb@usa1.com mikester@bix.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:36:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia To: your mom Subject: Re: soundalikes On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Jon-Ross Habina wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Livia wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 10:04:16 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Livia > > To: your mom > > Subject: Re: soundalikes > > > > On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > > > > > I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound > > > like other people. Most of the time I would say he is unique,(at least he > > > doesn't sound like any of the other bands I've heard of) except: > > > When Robyn says "wheeled him in upon a trolley" (Yip Song) he > > > sounds like Damon out of Blur! > > > The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for > > > Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had > > > flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. > > > And any other people of Irish descent who were brought up listening > > > to Dubliners and Clancy Brothers LP's might know which song The Abandoned > > > Brain reminds me of - I just can't put my finger on it, but I'm pretty sure > > > it was the Dubliners and that they were under the influence of copious > > > amounts of whiskey! > > > And the Kershaw version of "So You Think You're In Love" sounds > > > like Peter Perrett (Only Ones) to me. > > > Just my humble little opinions. Anyone else? > > > > parts of he's a reptile are very much like old bowie (the way his voice > > goes deep on "tonight"). deliberately, i assume > > > I can only add that a good friend and I both feel that "Somewhere Apart" > from Element of Light sounds an awful lot like mid-70s John Lennon. and another bit of bowieness on black snake diamond role. not vocal, but the music at the very beginning of 'love' reminds me a lot of 'five years' from ziggy stardust as i say, i have always assumed that these reminders are quite deliberate (although i don't know how blur would fit in, unless the borrowing is the other way around. is damon a robyn fan, perhaps?) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 15:40:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Livia To: David Witzany cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, David Witzany wrote: > There's a record store hereabouts with a 2-CD set called something like > "The Soft Boys, 1975-1981". All of the titles look really familiar, from > following the various threads on this list. Is this set a good deal for > a serious Robyn fan, or am I better off hunting for all of the original > releases these tunes were distilled from? Its big advantages are a reasonable > price (US$25) and being right here right now. On the other hand, I usually > avoid best of sets, because if I like a group at all, I want all the "lesser" > material that only the true fans heard the first time around, but that weren't > really inferior to the "hits," either. Can any Soft Boys fans who've seen > this release give a quick review? well, if you read the back cover carefully, you'll see that quite a few of the tracks are previously unreleased. it really isn't a 'best of' at all, in the usual sense (and it's 1976-81, actually) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 20:01:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Assa To: Robyn Subject: NY area date! I got my tickets for Maxwell's on Oct 4th. It seems this is the second time in 5 years that he has decided to play on Yom Kippur. I think I am the one who caused these tix to go on sale at Ticketmaster. I went for the 3rd time in a week and they still wren't on sale, and "the guy" called into ticketmaster HQ and asked what thew deal was. He said, ok, they're on sale NOW, and then they were. SCHWIIIING! --------------------------------------------------- 1. Earth is 98% full. Please delete anyone you can. 2. I came, I saw, I deleted all your files. 3. The world will end in 5 minutes. Please log out. [][][][][][][][][][] From: millikan@pasco.wednet.edu Date: Tue, 5 Sep 1995 21:44:52 -0700 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Robyn in Seattle Greetings Fegs, We were in Seattle this past weekend to see Richard Thompson, and while we were there we went to the Backstage ticket office to buy tickets to see Al Stewart on October 4th, and what-do-you-know but to-our-great-amazement, there was the listing for the Robyn show on September 29th. Eclectic aren't we? Seattle is a four hour drive for us, as well as one night's kennel for the dogs and one night lodging for us, so for us to go over there twice in one week is unheard of, but we have tickets for both Robyn and Al Stewart, and kennel reservations for the dogs. We lived in Seattle from 1983 to 1990, and the Backstage is our favorite venue. It used to be that if you bought tickets and ate their mediocre food you got preferred seating, but they seem to have abandoned that policy. Our idea this time is to dine at Lombardi's, an Italian restaurant just above the Backstage, where one of us can always be keeping our place in line. Although we haven't eaten there before, the place does reek of garlic which we take as a good sign. Doors open for the Backstage one hour before the 9:30 show (why so late Robyn?). If any of you would like to join us we would welcome the company (we hate to see people forced to go out with "evil ex-boyfriends.") What do you say Elisabeth? Is Lombardi's any good at all? And while we thought we were pushing the limits of sanity to make this trip twice in one week, Jay is more than welcome to join us if he makes it up from Houston!?!?! If anyone needs more Backstage information please feel free to email me privately, as well as anyone who wants to get in on the Lombardi's dinner. We should probably make reservations soon. See some of you in Seattle, Mike millikan@pasco.wednet.edu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 01:06:24 -0400 To: beach house tiki god From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: Re: shadow cat? Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >eabu135@ea.oac.uci.edu sez: >>Yesterday, a friend mentioned that while listening to KCRW (Santa >>Monica), she heard mention of an upcoming(?) album of Robyn's called >>_Shadow Cat_, or thereabouts. > >the tentative title for robyn's new album is _surfer ghost_. i wouldn't >be surprised if that did not end up being the name though - _queen >elvis_ was originally going to be called _flesh cartoons_. > >_shadow cat_, however, seems kinda goofy. > >+w A friend of mine has a mailing from Sandra & Trudi from 1990 announcing that Robyn was working an album entitled "The Adult Album". This ended up being "Perspex Island". Shadow Cat, is the name of our cat. It is never more than a few inches behind us, wherever we are. (and if it could talk, it would forever be screaming "Just Direct Me to the Cheese!") So Robyn, you've gotta find another name.... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu "Death by envy is the only way" - O+> "My headphones....they saved my life" -Bjork -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 20:28:34 WST From: baker_d@ee.uwa.edu.au (david baker) To: h.l.osullivan@herts.ac.uk Subject: Re: soundalikes Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound > like other people. Most of the time I would say he is unique,(at least he > doesn't sound like any of the other bands I've heard of) except: > When Robyn says "wheeled him in upon a trolley" (Yip Song) he > sounds like Damon out of Blur! > The first couple of lines of Messages of Dark are a dead ringer for > Steve Kilbey's (Church) voice, so much so that I thought the CD changer had > flipped onto Remindlessness while I wasn't looking. Interesting that you should mention Robyn sounding like The Church because I remember an interview with Steve Kilby in which he was talking about one of his songs off the album Starfish, Reptile. He was saying that he wrote the song because he wanted to write something slimey, slippery and sinister (i.e. reptilian). To me, this sounds like an exact discription of Robyn's Lizard, off BSDR, five years earlier. Dave [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 09:33:56 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: Re: soundalikes >On Tue, 5 Sep 1995, Helen O'Sullivan wrote: > >> I was just musing on a couple of bits of Robyn's stuff that really sound >> like other people. Here are two that always come to mind: 1) Falling Leaves (off "Inviso Hitchcock"): This always reminds me of John Lennon's "Woman". 2) Then You're Dust (off "R-E-S-P-E-C-T"): Robyn's voice during the verses reminds me of the guy that sings "Year of the Cat" (NOT Shadow Cat). Was it Al Stewart?? 3) Wafflehead: Hey, this sounds like Captain Beefheart's "Hothead"!! ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu "Death by envy is the only way" - O+> "My headphones....they saved my life" -Bjork -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 09:20:15 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Aloha Seattle To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu I'm quickly scrambling around for money to get to this Seattle gig...$318 roundtrip from Houston to Seattle isn't that much, but the $700 AmEx bill this month was...so those Nor'westerners up there...is it worth renting a car there or is there enough stuff in walking distance from that university district? jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "If you could free my inner child hist1a@jetson.uh.edu Then I could free your inhabitions." University of Houston --Lloyd Cole "I was born to cheese you." "They're telling me questions --Robyn Hitchcock And asking me lies." --Replacements %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 09:37:58 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Thought some of you might want to see this To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Path: news.uh.edu!swrinde!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.sprintlink.net!in2.uu.net!news.aurora.net!pagesat.net!news.cerf.net!vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu!usenet From: nrozakis@getty.edu (Nick Rozakis) Newsgroups: alt.music.replacements Subject: If You Listen to Live Tapes, Check This Hardware Out Date: 5 Sep 1995 17:55:52 GMT Organization: The J. Paul Getty Trust Lines: 48 Message-ID: <42i2v8$hff@vaneyck.ahip.getty.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: nrozakis.getty.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.5 I purchased a product a while back called a BBE 362 Sonic Maximizer. Cost me around $175. It can be used for many different purposes, but mostly I use it to listen to live recordings. It's a 19" rack mountable device that can be hooked in between your tape player and your amp/receiver, just like any audio device. The sound difference is nothing short of spectacular. The high and low ends of the recording (which normally get lost on live tapes, especially on audience tapes) gets significantly restored. There is a greater "presence" and clarity to the sound. It's so great, that I even run new CDs and tapes through it. It also works great for home studios for bouncing tracks, as it maintains all the frequencies of the source. If you listen to old recordings from the 50s and 60s, the device brings out some of the lost sounds, espcially the bottom end from those recordings. The Mats sound great through the device. I don't sell them and I don't have any affiliation with the BBE company. I'm just an avid fan of the product, especially for the money. I've seen them on REC.MUSIC.MARKETPLACE used for around $120. I know Guitar Center sells them new, as does Manny's. -- THE OPINIONS EXPRESSED IN THIS POST ARE SOLELY MINE AND NOT OF THE J. PAUL GETTY TRUST OR OTHER GETTY ENTITY [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 95 16:42:46 BST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Isle of Wight book; token "Yip" I had a long chat over the 'phone last night with one of the guys (Mike, I think) who wrote the book about rock on the Isle of Wight that Mike Godwin mentioned in his review of the Yarmouth gig (hey, Mike, what about "Ghost Riders in the Sky" as an early "Yip" appearance ? Yippie-aye-a....). The book is 180 pages long, 4 in colour, A4 sized, soft cover, first run of 1,000 copies. Contains 4 pages on Robyn, including info on the Glass Hotel and Compton Beach (where Airscape was written), an interview with Robyn, an original story (if I heard right), and a few photos, including one of the fez that features in the Glass Hotel story (and which resides in the hotel that the story was loosely based in). Plus some stuff on Robyn's dad. Isle of Wight Rock book available from: Vic King Isle of Wight Rock Archives Palmer's Forge Newport Road Niton Isle of Wight PO39 2DB UK GBP12.99 (+ GBP1.95 for P&P in the UK, not sure about overseas). Payable to Isle of Wight Rock Archives. The book is divided into 5 sections, covering Isle of Wight rock history from 1955. i) 1955 - 62; ii) 1963-70; iii) Festivals; iv) Local Bands v) Poets & Performers (Robyn, Vivian Stanshall, etc) with links to the Isle of Wight. Includes lots on the three IW festivals, original photos etc of Dylan, Hendrix, Joni Mitchell etc, stories of Pink Floyd playing on the island in the 60's, interviews with people like Allen Ginsberg and Vivian Stanshall (who apparently wrote some of his Rawlinson End stuff on Shanklin Pier, when he was performing with the Temperance Seven there in about 1971). There's a whole bunch of other stuff too, mail me if you want more info. I don't yet have a copy, hopefully should have one in a couple of weeks. Mike also passed on a few interesting snippets that may be of interest - Milo, star of "De Chirico Street," was at the Yarmouth gig -he's apparently the daughter of Julie Lewis, who housed Bob Dylan when he played on the island. Robyn is thinking of having the launch party for the next album on the island; also there's a possibility of a show on the lawn of the Glass Hotel sometime next summer. Mike may hijack his mate's modem and regale us with stories of Robyn & the Isle of Wight sometime soon. He talked about a bunch more stuff that I can't face typing up right now. I've scanned a photo of Robyn playing at Yarmouth, you can find it via http://diagphys6.rpms.ac.uk/robyn.htm (NB: NOT html). Jonathan jturner@rpms.ac.uk [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 06 Sep 95 08:44:53 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Bay Area Fegs: SF show! This is actually old news by now if you scour newspaper ads for such things, but in case you don't: Robyn Hitchcock (w/ Titus) September 25, Great American Music Hall. Got my tickets yesterday at BASS. Nick--I've heard Hitchcock occasionally on Live 105. Better chance on the weekends, probably. Also, KFJC (89.7) will probably play some when they're not doing Jazz, Reggae, Blues, Soundtracks or Bavarian Folk. And if you get up closer to SF I imagine KUSF still plays lots-o-bobby...that's usually where he stops for interviews. Don't know their frequencey off hand, though. Mike--maybe you folks in Seattle will be lucky enough to hear Robyn do a rendition of "Year Of The Cat", or Perhaps Al Stewart will do "My Favourite Buildings" ;) -Russ in the changer today: Neil Young/Mirror Ball Soft Boys/Invisible Hits Badfinger/The Best of Badfinger Smashing Pumpkins/Siamese Dream The Cure/Staring At The Sea--The Singles [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 13:11:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: "John B. Jones" cc: beach house tiki god , fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: shadow cat? > > > >the tentative title for robyn's new album is _surfer ghost_. i wouldn't > >be surprised if that did not end up being the name though - _queen > >elvis_ was originally going to be called _flesh cartoons_. > > A friend of mine has a mailing from Sandra & Trudi from 1990 announcing > that Robyn was working an album entitled "The Adult Album". This ended up > being "Perspex Island". Also some will remember that the original title for _can of bees_ was "heat me up, and tell me you're happy." _Underwater moonlight_ given the warm and friendly working title "that's my fish you're holding". or do I have it backwards? I can't find my notes. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:21:39 -0700 Subject: Re: shadow cat? From: Tom Clark To: "Bayard" , "John B. Jones" , "beach house tiki god" , "fegManiax" Bayard Said: >Also some will remember that the original title for _can of bees_ was >"heat me up, and tell me you're happy." _Underwater moonlight_ given the >warm and friendly working title "that's my fish you're holding". I remember hearing that the original name for "Black Snake Diamond Role" was something like "Silver Pear", although I don't think it was "silver", but something similar... -tc ************************************* * Tom Clark * Apple Computer, Inc. * tclark@apple.com * tclark@netgate.net * tclark@eworld.com * http://www.netgate.net/~tclark ************************************* [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 11:59:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Crowl To: How do you work this thing? Subject: Re: Aloha Seattle On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, JAY LYALL wrote: > I'm quickly scrambling around for money to get to this Seattle gig...$318 > roundtrip from Houston to Seattle isn't that much, but the $700 AmEx bill this > month was...so those Nor'westerners up there...is it worth renting a car there > or is there enough stuff in walking distance from that university district? Don't even worry about a car, Jay. Unless you want to drive out to the mountains and hike or ski (we're on the cusp of the season), you won't need a vehicle. Seattle's bus system is really efficient (ESPECIALLY from the U-Dist), and you can get just about anywhere from there. The District itself is great for shopping and eating, but there tons of buses from the there that will take you either downtown or up to Capital Hill, where there are ten times as many clubs and restaurants and shops. I'll definitely be at the show, too, and I hope you enjoy yourself - maybe a bunch of us will link up somehow... ;) --< mikey >-- /--------------------------------------------------------------\ | Michael Crowl LEO Sun, VIRGO Moon, LIBRA Rising... | | V/M (206)726-2591 E/M "SHITCAN@ESKIMO.COM" | | "The Scientist, like the Artist, is constantly | | faced with the problem: | | 'How do you organize and comprehend the World?'" | | (EINSTEIN SPACE & VAN GOGH SKY, by Leshan and Margenau) | \--------------------------------------------------------------/ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 6 Sep 1995 16:57:48 -0500 From: "Wayne Grgurich" Subject: Re: shadow cat? To: "Society of Dark Birds" Mail*Link(r) SMTP RE>shadow cat? > A friend of mine has a mailing from Sandra & Trudi from 1990 announcing > that Robyn was working an album entitled "The Adult Album". This ended up > being "Perspex Island". At the 4/91 Mountain Stage benefit concert (with Robyn, R.E.M., Billy Bragg and Gregson/Collister) in West Virginia, an announcement was made during Bob's intro that his soon-to-be-released album (Perspex Isle) was entitled "Kiss Yourself." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 17:43:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Best of Soft Boys To: David Witzany Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Hmm If we're talking about the same thing, it's not a Greatest Hits as such. It contains several unreleased songs and alternate versions. I recommend it in addition to the complete Soft Boys discography (Underwater Moonlight, Invisible Hits, Can of Bees, and Raw Cuts/Wading Through a Ventilator) and the Can of Outtakes ROIO. I haven't heard it, myself, but I want to get it and would encourage anyone else who likes the Soft Boys to do the same. I'm not sure, but I don't think that this is meant to be a stand-alone collection. (Unlike, say, DEVO. After you've got the Greatest Hits and Greatest Misses, very nearly all of their discography isn't worth buying) Terry "The Human Mellotron" Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 18:09:11 -0500 (EST) From: tracy aileen copeland To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: In the hopes of being the first to answer this On Wed, 6 Sep 1995, Tom Clark wrote: > I remember hearing that the original name for "Black Snake Diamond Role" > was something like "Silver Pear", although > I don't think it was "silver", but something similar... _Zinc Pear_ ... so sayeth the liner notes on the Rhino reissue. Tracy, who hoped the new album would be "Surfer Toast" [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, send mail to owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu For subscription requests, send mail to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...