Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative requests to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 95 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Kaleidoscope TONIGHT! Kaleidoscope, again RE: which album... Robyn on Kaleidoscope Robyn on UK Radio 4 (5 minutes ago) Which album? rout of the clones which album? which album?! which album?! (fwd) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 08:19:18 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: which album? To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Here's all I plan to say on the matter..."Buy them all and let the changer sort them out" jay [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:39:41 GMT From: Rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk (Rob Collingwood) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Robyn on UK Radio 4 (5 minutes ago) Just driving home, turned on Radio 4 Kaleidoscope on and the presenter says 'and now my favourite singer/songwriter - Robyn Hitchcock'. He played DeChirico Street (with sax accompanying) then was interviewed, then Glass Hotel. The program is repeated at 9pm tonight (Wednesday), but is 10 minutes shorter. If Robyn's on it again, I'll tape it. It was good so hopefully it won't be dropped from the repeat. I hope someone gets this in time to catch the program. Perhaps whoever told Simon that he was on earlier this week was mistaken? I'd be amazed if he was on twice in one week. -- Rob Collingwood Warrington, Cheshire, England E-mail: rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk or: rac2@student.open.ac.uk [][][][][][][][][][] From: bskaught@nwrain.com Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 09:00 PDT To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: which album... Personally, I think Roger Jackson's keyboards are a bit blaring at times. I seem to remember that the video doesn't sync up with the album in some places which leads me to believe that there was a bit of post-production done. Anyone else notice this also? I'd go for Black Snake..., it's a lot darker. -tom In an interview once Robyn said that some of the vocals and bass parts were redone in postproduction as a result of some failings in the recordings--bass parts are infamous for "dropping" during live recordings. I'd agree about Jackson's keyboards for the most part, but I still feel the performance makes up for it. Bradley [][][][][][][][][][] From: bskaught@nwrain.com Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 09:05 PDT To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: which album... "King Chuck" sez: >IMHO, GLTHO is one of the best LIVE albums ever by anyone. agreed. i'd even claim that if i wasn't a fegmaniac. the only other live album that is in the same range as _hen!_ is richard lloyd's _real time_. woj Amen to that! I love live albums-- I'd add Van Morrison's "It's Too Late to Stop Now"-- it's at the top of my best live albums ever list. Right near "Hen" actually! By the way, if you like "Real Time" you should try to find Television's "The Blow Up"-- wow! Bradley [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 10:02:21 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Which album? In defense of "A Can Of Bees"... "Human Music" --lovely track "Leppo" --excellent rocker. one of the best tracks on "Hen Out" "Sandra" --it's a classic "Sacred Crab" --great guitars. perfect harmonies. brilliant changes. "Rock&Roll Toilet"--a party favourite. "Have A Heart Betty" --the BEES version is one of my all time favourite tunes. "Anglepoise Lamp"--us, we wanna be...another party fave. The album cover rivals any of Cal Schenkel's classic Zappa covers. This is not a "pointless" record. This is what ammounts to the first recorded evidence of Robyn's brilliance. take Jay's advice...buy them ALL...and let the changer sort them out! "I believe in all or nothing" --rh Russ rreynolds@ksjo.com [][][][][][][][][][] From: simon roberts Subject: Kaleidoscope TONIGHT! To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 20:06:04 +0100 (BST) Well Rob spilt the beans already. Thanks to Anna for falling asleep to Radio 4 - I got home in time for the afternoon Kaleidoscope. I caught it on tape so we're home and dry now. Well, I'm dry anyway. Bit of between song banter, and they rather pointlessly finished the programme with the opening theme from "Shuffling over the Flagstones" (about 30 seconds worth). I'll type out the chat and post it soon. So to any UK fegs: Listen to Radio 4's Kaleidoscope (92-94 FM) TONIGHT (Wed) from 9.00. This is a condensed version of the afternoon show - hopefully Robyn has survived the edit. Ears crossed. Simon [][][][][][][][][][] From: simon roberts Subject: Robyn on Kaleidoscope To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 21:12:25 +0100 (BST) Here is what happened on BBC Radio 4's Kaleidoscope 14th June 1995. "DeChirico Street" - Robyn plays acoustic accompanied by James Fletcher on sax (as on "Flavour of Night"). ("P" is presenter. Apologies to him - didn't get his name.) P: Not having the powers of your own town planning organisation you've named your song after this man - Georgo DeChirico, the pre-surrealist surrealist. R: That's right. Yeah. P: So why? R: Uummmmm...Well, he painted all these very looming pictures, 'specially during the first war; there was a lot of presence in the pictures but there was hardly ever anyone in them. You know, there would be all these things like punch-balls and grandfather-clocks, punch-bags... P: The one I know is "Mystery and Melancholy" (?) which has got a girl with a hoop and a long avenue of arches, and right at the top is this looming shadow, and there's a sense that something's going to happen to the girl, maybe. R: I think something's always going to happen in those pictures, but nothing quite does. P: Is that one of the things that appeals to you as a song-writer, is using patterns of words to suggest things?...you know... sentences that would constitute normal speech, could never do. Your songs aren't about boy meets girl meets man meets whatever, they are weird images. R: I don't know. You have to condense things with a song. You've got to get it all done in 3 minutes. So maybe you can't afford to use that many conventional sentences. P: But you like the idea of strange juxtapositions? R: ...Well you've got to keep people awake. P: Ha ha ha. R: But on the other hand I think that if your juxtapositions are too strange people just don't notice. Unfortunately that's why Trout Mask Replica isn't playing in Selfridges. P: The Captain Beefheart classic. Now, again, we're onto things that aren't by you. You've got 9 CDs out simultaneously all featuring new material. This is...ur...What's happening here Robyn? R: (breathes heavily on mic.) Well most of them are ol'...They're all old records but they've all got little extra bits tacked on the end. P: New bits? R: Well things that we're recorded at the time and weren't released or whatever. P: And including a whole new album of previously never ever before heard stuff. R: There's stuff that was lost, ur I didn't realise it was lying around. I had a load of demo tapes... P: Ha hu ho huuuh (funny gulp of air sound - probably a fly) R: ...from 1987 or so..the, ur, cassette broke so I didn't realise I had them. P: Is this because, let's be honest, you write songs faster than we, the public, can possibly consume them? R: I write a lot of stuff yeah, but I think you have to. Uuurmm, the casualty rate, you know, I write...I put 10 songs on one album but I write 40 songs for it. I mean think of the amount of footage that you shoot for a film - I dunno what it is - you're lucky if you keep more than 2 minutes a day or something. You know, in the can. So same with song-writing. I mean I bet even George Michael has got loads of old stuff lying around, but maybe he doesn't choose to release it. Plays "Glass Hotel". Just acoustic guitar. Programme ends with a few seconds of "Shuffling Over The Flagstones". Just the first 3 lines, then as it takes off with that higher melody it rapidly fades and gets slaughtered by the announcer. Ouch. Simon [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 22:22:58 GMT From: Rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk (Rob Collingwood) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Kaleidoscope, again I think I got the time wrong in my previous post - sorry about that. Unfortunately, the repeat was edited so that DeChirico Street was omitted and the interview was cut to just an explanation of why there are so many CD's just released and where 'You and Oblivion' came from, followed by Glass Hotel. The full interview broadcast earlier was much more interesting and included a discussion of the artist DeChirico - whom I had never heard of and thus had no idea the song was named after - apparently he was an early surrealist, and I'm sure there is someone out there who knows lots about him. The rest of the interview I don't remember as I was hurrying home to get my tape recorder started. -- Rob Collingwood Warrington, Cheshire, England E-mail: rob@nimbus.demon.co.uk or: rac2@student.open.ac.uk [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 19:06:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: Which album? To: Russ Reynolds Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > > In defense of "A Can Of Bees"... > > > "Human Music" --lovely track Agreed > "Leppo" --excellent rocker. one of the best tracks on "Hen Out" I'd debate that one, but I'm already bloating the bandwidth > "Sandra" --it's a classic Hmm...that "Someone's pulling your leaves off" section should've been dropped..needs some changes, but it's absically a good song > "Sacred Crab" --great guitars. perfect harmonies. brilliant changes. > "Rock&Roll Toilet"--a party favourite. > "Have A Heart Betty" --the BEES version is one of my all time favourite > tunes. I don't have Sacred Crab or R&R Toilet on *my* version of Bees..I've got the Ryko rerelease...you? "Rat's Prayer" is one of the greatest songs to chant at people to unnerve them...and has a nice melody > "Anglepoise Lamp"--us, we wanna be...another party fave. > I never was much for it. Vocal harmonizing seems off. > This is not a "pointless" record. This is what ammounts to the first > recorded evidence of Robyn's brilliance. > > take Jay's advice...buy them ALL...and let the changer sort them out! I'll take his advice as soon as he sends me the money for it :) Until then, well, I've already got "Bees", but Trains and Hen are sort of off of my buy list. GD, BSDR, Feg and Element are sort of biggert priorities > > "I believe in all or nothing" > --rh "Sometimes in the early morning. I beleive in everything" Terry "Sometimes, you're better off with it than with a blowdrier" Marks [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 19:12:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Marks Subject: Re: which album?! (fwd) Cc: Pretty girls and Anglepoise lamps This message was meant to be sent to everyone. I'm just forwarding it, so I won't have a snappy nickname this time. Terry Marks a013645t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us From:bskaught@nwrain.com To: Terry Marks Subject: Re: which album?! Ok. Underwater Moonlight is *the* essential Soft Boys CD, and, really, the only one you need. Bees is pointless. Hits...I've never heard, honestly. You & Oblivion is neccesary, I say. Never heard Element, Queen Elvis or Fegmania. Gravy Deco is a maybe sort of album (GD is GDo+GDa). I often dream of trains, I cannot stand. It has 3 songs that I like...Pretty Girl (Can't get it out of my head now), Sounds Great and some other one. THe rest, I swear, I recognize the guitar riffs from those classic rock songs I hear on the radio. Listen to 'I'd love to change the world' then to...I forget the name...the chords are at least really close, if not identical. Perspex is good, but optional. Eye and GLobe of Frogs are must-haves. Black Snake Diamond Role is nearly as important as Underwater Moonlight to have. Once again, risking unpopularity, i'm gonna throw Respect into the essential list (at the removal of Gravy Deco Decoy Groovy Geco Doovy, please.) Please don't hurt me-- I really think it's one of his greatest albums. The songwriting is fantastic-- free of some of the forced "weirdness" he can slip into-- and the production is fantastic. It's almost like a home made "Pet Sounds" or something. I'm standing by Respect as in the top three or four Hitchcock albums. I'm going back into my bunker now, so you can continue to throw things at me. :) my best to you all, Bradley [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 22:14:25 -0400 From: woj To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: rout of the clones fegs, i was talking to my local record emporium's proprieter this afternoon and asked him to track me down a copy of _rout of the clones_. according to him (and i suspect he would know), this bootleg is of japanese origin and rather limited in number. hence, he didn't expect to be able to find me a copy. so...two questions: 1) can someone who has a copy please post the details about label and such? (we already have the setlist, so no need to do that.) i'm curious for my own sake. 2) if anyone sees a copy of this, please grab it for me. price is no object. thanks. woj [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. 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