Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative requests to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 79 Today's Topics: ------- ------ I Used To Say I Love You REM AOLove The REM Version The REM version Union Chapel gig, 18th May, London Union Chapel gig, Islington at last... pit of souls? lyrics the knives of love [][][][][][][][][][] Subject: re: The REM version To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (fegmaniax) Date: Thu, 18 May 95 8:52:03 MDT From: "Arif Jamal Ansari" The REM version of "Arms" also is on a compilation called, I think, "For the Benefit of Animals" or some such. Anyways, it's for some trendy cause. And it's not worth going to any length of trouble to find. Maybe if it's at your local library... Later, Arif. [][][][][][][][][][] From: ZeroSummer@aol.com Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 15:21:50 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: The REM Version "Arms of Love" is also on REM's "Man on the Moon" single. I don't think it's half bad myself, if I can break the prevailing trend for a moment. It doesn't have the drive of the original, but it's nice in an achy-folky way. And its lyrics are true to the ones printed in the Respect liner notes. I believe it might have been released just weeks before Respect, or at the same time at the latest. So apparently it's something REM picked up from Robyn on one of their musical outings together, not off of Respect itself. Later. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 16:06:03 -0400 (EDT) From: ha ha snowsuit To: ZeroSummer@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The REM Version Actually, now that Mr. ZS has brought up the "folky" air of the REM version in comparison to Mr. Hitchcock's version on _Respect_, I'd like to give a yell in favor of Mr. H's songs being done in as simple a way as possible. My personal favorite version of 'Arms of Love' is the _Kershaw Sessions_ one. Robyn's voice isn't the sweet tenor of Paul McCartney nor is it the beautiful barritone of Barry White (Wafflehead?), but it's perfect for honest, heartfelt songs presented in as-close-to-live-as-possible fashion. Of course, this is my own biased view, being a lo-fi queen-pin. Any opposing viewpoints? Anyone favor the recording style of _Respect_ over that of _Eye_? kiss kiss, Pam * "Only when I'm dancin' can I feel this free, At night, I lock the door where no one else can see. I'm tired of dancin' here all by myself, Tonight I wanna dance with someone else." "She runs through the night as if nobody cares, She screams and she cries and ignores all the stares, She wants me to come but I'm never going there, The goldheart mountaintop queen directory." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:18:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Bayard To: The Pit of Souls Subject: the knives of love Speaking of 'arms of love', does anyone else expect RH to start singing that song when they hear the intro to 'take your knife out of my back'? Similar, no? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 18 May 1995 17:53:58 -0400 From: wombat toga party To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: The REM Version "Arif Jamal Ansari" sez: >The REM version of "Arms" also is on a compilation called, I >think, "For the Benefit of Animals" or some such. ZeroSummer@aol.com sez: >"Arms of Love" is also on REM's "Man on the Moon" single. it's on both and each version is different. the version on the compilation, i believe, is credited to solely mr. stipe, though i haven't bothered to track that one down yet. ha ha snowsuit sez: >Anyone favor the recording style of _Respect_ over that of _Eye_? i don't think that's a fair question since _respect_ is a mixture of songs that needed different production. unfortunately, they all got the same treatment. for some songs - "oceanside" and "so you think you're in love" - this works. for others - "arms of love" and "when i was dead" - it doesn't. woj [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 95 00:29 GMT+0200 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: hardaker@iaccess.za (Mike Hardaker) Subject: I Used To Say I Love You Intro: D A G A D A G A D A G I used to say I love you A G A G A It wasn't really true D A G I wanted to believe it A G A G A And now I almost do I used to say I love you I said it as a threat Or maybe as a promise To see what I could get D DMaj7 C G But my heart doesn't break any more D DMaj7 C G No my heart doesn't ache any more Em D D/C Cause it just couldn't take any more D F#m G E A (Asus4 A A2 Asus4 A A2 A) And I've lost my illusions about you now etc... M. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 00:13:01 GMT From: rramsay@realres.demon.co.uk (Robert Ramsay) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Union Chapel gig, 18th May, London Hello. Just got back from the Union Chapel gig - it really is a Church! As Robyn said: "This is really weird playing in a church; it's like being in a church." Everyone sat in pews with their plastic containers of beer from the impromptu bar next door. They had all the heaters on, but it was still a bit nippy in there. The stage was set up around the pulpit and behind, you could see a balcony, and a large rose stained glass window. The first band were two guitarists called Denzil - the quality of songwriting was first class, even if the playing wasn't virtuoso. I think I'll buy their record 'Pub'. "I don't know why we chose that title - we must have thought it up in a pub." You might like them too - my favourite line was "I thought you were Sid James, but you were Jimmy Tarbuck" (on rising, angry chords!) Next up were Edzio (sp?) who were a Mike McShane like-a-look and this long haired guy who sung like a cross between early Billy Joel and Springsteen. I'd prefer to see these guys live rather than buy their record (Black Boots on Latin Feet, if you're interested. They were pretty virtuoso on two guitars, and the big guy really punished his, string bending until I thought there was a string missing. Then Robyn: wearing one of his lizard shirts, he seemed as relaxed as he ever gets on stage. Some usual banter - "They're like polystrene, only they eat you." Two things stood out for me; he introduced 'I'm Only You' with: "If you miss somebody enough, you become them." and the Yip Song: "This is about one old veteran who never saw VE Day". Set List -------- Surgery Wide Open Star Balloon Man (Yay! Boo!) Shuffling over the Flagstones (*very* like Chinese Water Python) DiChirico Street Madonna of the Wasps The Devil's Coachman Glass Hotel (greeted with much excitement) I'm Only You I Something You Ride The Yip Song Electric Encore 1 ----------------- I Am Not Me IODOT (Hurrah!) Listening to the Higsons 52 Stations Only the Stones Remain Electric Encore 2 ----------------- Queen of Eyes (which I mistook by the first chords for So You Think You're In Love!) Insect Mother Zipper in Your Spine I didn't realise that Robyn still had the green & black diamond shirt he wore on GTLTHO. My mate Andy had never seen Robyn before. He annoyed me all the way home by going Woah-oh-woah at random intervals, but at least it got into his brain... Very good gig. Just as well, seeing as it took me forever to find out where they were selling the tickets originally. I'm going to see Al Stewart there on 24th June... -- Robert Ramsay - Reality Research rramsay@realres.demon.co.uk "Meaning is something we humans invented" [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 18 May 1995 17:12:22 -0800 From: "Mark Gloster" Subject: Re: REM AOLove To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Reply to: Re>REM AOLove I really didn't like the Arms Of Love when I first heard the version on the Man on the Moon CD5 single. I then forced myself to listen to it a second and third time and suddenly found myself liking it. I am probably not quite the REM fan that most people are on this list, but I now really like their version of AOL. This has left me wondering what Michael S 'n' the gang would do with one of my weird little ditties. I wonder if they translate well enough into Robynglish. Felines, and vegetalia, -Mark Gloster mark_gloster@quickmail.apple.com "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." -Hunter S. Thompson [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 16:16:13 +1200 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James) Subject: at last... pit of souls? At last, after many months, the rereleases are arriving, having finally crawled and swum their way to New Zealand. Import only, mind you, at $39NZ (about $27US). No wonder I'm going broke...). Two down and another one on lay-by, six to go... Anyway, there's one track that I haven't seen much comment about, surprisingly, since it's unlike any other RH work... The long 'soundscape' Pit of Souls, on Fegmania! According to the liner notes, Robyn got the idea for it listening to Bowie and Eno's work on Low and Heroes, but to my ear it sounds a lot more like early Floyd, such as Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun. More Barrettism? Also, is it my imagination, or does the melody of Egyptian Cream try to break out of the mix about 7-8 minutes of the way through the piece, just before the fast part? J. James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago. Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807 * You talk to me as if from a distance * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time, * from another time (Brian Eno) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 06:18:25 GMT From: sweetums To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Cc: vbl@cix.compulink.co.uk Subject: Union Chapel gig, Islington What a religious experience (the church notwithstanding). First things first: Mr Hitchcock emerged wearing a shirt simply covered in pink and yellow salamanders, neatly tucked into black jeans, for the acoustic set. Then after a short break he re-emerged in black and kelly green checkerboard print shirt, untucked but with cuffs buttoned. And for the encore he sported his old favorite, that sort of yellowy and bluey one with things on it that might be planets out of "Le Petit Prince," but then again might not, untucked and with cuffs unbuttoned. Is this progressive deshabille simply due to lack of time, or is it a statement? No way could I give you a set list (and apols in advance, I'm shit with titles), but particular beauties included a new instrumental track (acoustic) that appeared almost impossibly difficult to play, yet he did . . . "Glass Hotel" made you want to cry, that one about the devil in the nude made you crack up, his between-song patter about coping with inanimate but tangible objects, like cupboard doors, and the obscenely grinning horse who waits behind the half-open door which had served its purpose simply by grinning obscenely and need not actually emerge, or (before "I'm Only You") about how when you miss someone, you become them . . . nothing to rival his remark about Captain Beefheart at Dingwalls, mind, but if only I could be disturbed like Robyn! "I Often Dream of Trains" was mindbogglingly beautiful. He even played some Soft Boys stuff, "The Queen of Eyes" and "Zipper in My Spine." And lotsa Felleaux Feg-x there from UK and US; lemons were carried but in the end not needed (maybe next time red ribbons in our hair? white carnations on our lapels?): Jonathan and his brother, Julian, Eden & Ian. Anyone else? And they had lotsa neat stuff to buy, including some live tapes I'd never ever seen before, and a UK address for Mrs Wafflehead, which if anyone doesn't have, I'd happily send 'em. Yes, I am gushing. I want to marry him, if only so I can browse through his shirt collection . . . . And last but not least, I am finally the exceedingly proud owner of one copy of the Infamous Issue Eighteen of *Ptolemaic Terrascope*, thanks to superhuman efforts by Minus Zero record store and *PT*'s editor, Phil. Okay, 'nuff said. Lizzie "sweetums get that frog and *smash*, turn old frog to froggie *hash*!" --from "The Frog Prince" by Jim Henson, ca 1972 [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 1995 00:53:20 -0700 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: avarice@primenet.com (Christopher Donnell) Subject: Re: lyrics At 09:51 AM 5/16/95 -0700, BRUCE%TOYVAX@Arizona.EDU wrote: > > Since there seems to be lyric question thread again I have always wondered >what the last few lines of The Lizard are. I can only make out a few words >as the song is fading at that time... the vocal is way down in the mix.... >Robyn is singing in a very high register and there is massive echo.... > > I am sure only that he does not repeat one of the first 3 verses. I once figured it out and was terribly sure of it. I spent long hours (well, maybe not too long) listening and transcribing it. Then I accidentally erased my file... I haven't don't any lyric transcriptions since. :) (It's true, I haven't - but I'm being over dramamtic) Maybe it's been long enough for me to put it back on and try to remember. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 19 May 95 11:29:57 BST To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jturner@rpms.ac.uk (Jonathan Turner) Subject: Re: Union Chapel gig, Islington Lizzie wrote: >What a religious experience (the church notwithstanding). > (thanks for the fashion notes!) (Robyn's diet doesn't seem to have progressed at all) And thanks to Robert for the setlist. the oddest venue I've been in for ages. It's a shame Robyn stood in front of the pulpit, rather than in it, maybe he was told not to. He should have done 'Ye Sleeping Knights of Jesus' but perhaps that was banned by higher authorities. Who does have all the best tunes, anyway ? (The numbers for the hymns for the service were displayed, but Robyn didn't sing any of them.'O Morris my help in ages past' would have been fun.) It's a shame there weren't any Robyn songbooks tucked into the pews. At least the 'no smoking' signs kept the incense levels down. Gossip from the aisles, in no particular order of service: The gig in Lewes in June is rumoured to be secret, so maybe we should all forget that Andy told us about it. The cuddlesome Aidan Merritt of Positive Vibrations magazine claims that there will be a Soft Boys 20th anniversary show in Cambridge, in 18 months time. ("Robyn just told me this in the pub" sez AM) This gives you all time to save up. There's a new Kimberley solo album out in a month or two; I forget the title. Anyone writing to Positive Vibrations should write to Aidan's address in England, since Barb Lien in the US has moved, but no-one knows the new address. (woj - best strike her off the web page!) Mrs Wafflehead has about ten copies of the 'I Something You' CD single left, for mail order - they were selling them at the show for GBP3, but sold out very early on. Nice to meet some more lovely fegs, visiting and resident! See you in Lewes, burning trains permitting... Jonathan. [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found at ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/archives/ For administrative questions, subscription requests, and all that boring crud, send mail to fegmaniax-request@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...