Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative requests to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 66 Today's Topics: ------- ------ Glass Flesh "Paisly Underground" Albini Albini-man Hitchcock on The Difference this morning Homophonic Songs Introduction (take 2) Ptolemaic Terrascope interview pt.1 Ptolemaic Terrascope interview pt.2 R.H. poll web site RE: Albini Connection RE: Ptolemaic Terrascope interview REM and Robyn Re[2]: Homophonic Songs Seen the Future comparsions and other stuff... homophonic songs lets kick Albini around lets kick this around [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 08:07:09 EDT From: woj at work Subject: Re: lets kick this around To: the ones who understood the tennis ball mikester sez: >I'd put my money on A&M (aka "Home of the Carpenters") than on any >influence that REM may have had on him. robyn as much as says this in the world cafe interview from last month (which i have every intention of transcribing this weekend). according to robyn, a&m left them alone for the first two record but then started to ache for big production. i guess they were just hurting to have the "#1 postmodern artist" again (remember though godsawful stickers on _queen elvis_? ugh!) woj (posting from work cos he doesn't feel like working) [][][][][][][][][][] From: sfoskett@mailhost.viewlogic.com (Stephen Foskett) Subject: Re: lets kick this around To: mikester@bix.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:21:08 -0400 (EDT) Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > I'd put my money on A&M (aka "Home of the Carpenters") than on any > influence that REM may have had on him. Money's a powerful thing, and when > the record label is waving $$$ under your nose for the _specific_ purpose > of recording, I think that the artist, no matter _who_ it is would tend to > spend it. They wanted albums with big production values, and they were > willing to pay for it. Or they could have spent it on Steve Albini to record it and it would have sounded godlike... Could you imagine what an Albini-recorded Hitchcock album would sound like? It would be like _Eye_ but even more personal and real... What a wonderful thing it would be... Of course, Robyn would probably weird Albini out (and Albini would piss him off) and they would never finish it... Or they could ruin an album entirely by giving it to Flood (witness PJ Harvey's newest compared to her first two) or Rick Ocasek or Butch Vig or somebody... I wore my new Robyn shirt (the black one with RH smiling) to work today (casual day!) and I've already gotten a few positive comments on it! People just like seeing a smiling guy on your chest, I guess... Stephen [][][][][][][][][][] From: goodhue@smtpgate.Disclosure.COM Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 10:16:52 est To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Homophonic Songs Hullo, My ears seem to think that the loping bass in Perspect Island's "Earthly Paradise" and Queen Elvis' "Superman" sound mighty familiar. A great public relations stunt would be if Robyn's self from a former artistic period was to sue his present self... Rock subsists on assimilation, like the way the Stones draw from Robert Johnson [or ZZ Top (La Grange/Hip Shake Thing from Exile on Main Street)]. Other times it's simply coincidental, like Michael Jackson's "Billie Jean" compared to Hank William's "Kalija" or "He's So Fine" by the Shondells and George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" or the Beatles "Tax Man" and the Jam's "Start". Does anyone find any other resemblances between or among Robyn songs or other artists? Try this: Penny Lane(Beatles)/Vains of the Queen/Flying Cowboys(Rickie Lee Jones). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:09:11 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Gene Hopstetter) Subject: lets kick Albini around >From: sfoskett@mailhost.viewlogic.com (Stephen Foskett) [snip A&M bit] >Or they could have spent it on Steve Albini to record it and it would >have sounded godlike... Could you imagine what an Albini-recorded >Hitchcock album would sound like? It would be like _Eye_ but even >more personal and real... What a wonderful thing it would be... I think Albini would've been wrong for (A&M-era or current) Robyn, IMHO. Not to slag 'ol Steve, of course, b/c he is one of my favorite producers. But I think his punch-you-in-the-gut engineering wouldn't work for Robyn's more delicate stuff. For that, I think John Leckie was perfect. I think Leckie pretty much nailed Respect's sound perfectly, and I think he'd have done a very good job with Eye. I would like to hear Robyn record something with a more technically minded producer, though, like Martin Bisi, or Jim Thirlwell, or Bill Laswell. Things would get *really* interesting with those guys. However, if Albini could have "recorded" Invisible Hits or A Can of Bees (or if he had he been the engineer at the Radar sessions) the Soft Boys records would have been even more godlike than they are now. >Of course, Robyn would probably weird Albini out (and Albini would >piss him off) and they would never finish it... I don't doubt this -- esp. considering Robyn's even more disgusted with the music business than Albini is. >Or they could ruin an album entirely by giving it to Flood (witness PJ >Harvey's newest compared to her first two) or Rick Ocasek or Butch Vig >or somebody... True, so true. Steve Hillage'll tell you all about such things, eh? =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Writer/Layout/WWW Guy + Tulane Computing Services http://yodelling-hoover.tcs.tulane.edu/GeneHome.html =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:13:19 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Gene Hopstetter) Subject: re: Homophonic Songs > Does anyone find any other resemblances between or among Robyn songs > or other artists? Heck yeah. Just compare any very old Pink Floyd with the Soft Boys. Robyn was obviously listening to a lot of Pink Floyd songs like "Candy and A Currant Bun," "See Emily Play," and so on when he wrote songs like "Sandra's Having Her Brain Out." Or so I think. =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Writer/Layout/WWW Guy + Tulane Computing Services http://yodelling-hoover.tcs.tulane.edu/GeneHome.html =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 10:09:48 -0500 From: "Chuck Tomlinson" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: comparsions and other stuff... In message <9503287990.AA799089546@smtpgate.disclosure.com> writes: > Main Street)]. Other times it's simply coincidental, like Michael > Jackson's "Billie Jean" compared to Hank William's "Kalija" or "He's > So Fine" by the Shondells and George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" or the > Beatles "Tax Man" and the Jam's "Start". Ask George Harrison and his accountants how much that "coincidental" similarity between "My Sweet Lord" and "He's So Fine" cost him in royalites and legal fees! Here's a comparison that might stir up some debate: RH vs. Seal. I'm serious; you strip away the huge synth/dance arrangments Trevor Horn put on Seal's two records and I keep thinking how cool Seal's original solo demos must have sounded. The guy can write a damn catch pop melody underneath all the marketing. And even more important, does anybody have any superb soundboard recordings of the "Respect" tour w/the Egyptians. I'd love to get a dub from you. Many thanks, Chuck (who knows it's not a new song, but loves having "Surgery" on a fresh clean CD) [][][][][][][][][][] From: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:18:33 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: Ptolemaic Terrascope interview I will try to post the whole interview over the weekend sometime from this U.K. psychedelic fanzine Ptolemaic Terrascope. Pete [][][][][][][][][][] From: goodhue@smtpgate.Disclosure.COM Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 11:16:12 est To: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even), fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re[2]: Homophonic Songs Aw, c'mon, aren't you Haydn something from me? ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Homophonic Songs Author: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) at internet Date: 4/28/95 5:04 PM I have no idea what you're talking about. They did once credit the trumpet line in Veins as being taken from some classical composer. Susan [][][][][][][][][][] From: goodhue@smtpgate.Disclosure.COM Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 12:07:19 est To: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even), fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re[2]: Homophonic Songs Having missed the broadcast and not having a television guide to reference, I cannot answer you that. However, Neil Sedaka did attempt a come back in the 70's much to the help of the Captain (nonSensible) and Tenneil. He wore a T-shirt that said "Sedaka's Back" on the back. I suspect that if he considers making another come back -and- were a camel, he would not be dromedary (having two humps to advertise). ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: Homophonic Songs Author: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) at internet Date: 4/28/95 5:48 PM > So Fine" by the Shondells and George Harrison's "My Sweet Lord" or the > Beatles "Tax Man" and the Jam's "Start". Deaf ears want to know: Didn't Neil Sedaka write My Sweet Lord? Wasn't George Harrison on Conan a few weeks ago? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 12:24:48 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: re: Homophonic Songs >> Does anyone find any other resemblances between or among Robyn songs >> or other artists? > >Heck yeah. Just compare any very old Pink Floyd with the Soft Boys. > There is a song on the new Juliana Hatfield album "Only Everything" called "Bottles and Flowers". Anyone heard it? Does it remind them of a certain Perspex Island song? The jangly guitar rh ythm line is similiar to the one in "Ride". -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu LYRIC OF THE MONTH: "If life is a performance, and I am not an actor, am I supposed to lay down and die?" -Juliana Hatfield "Its good to see so many of you wearing glasses" -Robyn, Seattle, May 1, 93 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:05:35 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: lets kick Albini around To: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >>Of course, Robyn would probably weird Albini out (and Albini would >>piss him off) and they would never finish it... > Albini? Isn't he that guy with the rubber-bands in his beard in that Cindy Lauper video?...no, really who is he? jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "Why isn't phonetics spelled the way it sounds?" hist1a@jetson.uh.edu -Steven Wright --Simpsons "And others might be magicians, "We'll inherit the Earth, but he was special too, But we don't want it." he had antlers." --Replacements --Robyn Hitchcock %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:00:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dolph Chaney, vox/gtr, PORT RADIUM" Subject: Re: lets kick Albini around To: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu [listing of possible producers] I'd be interested to hear a Hitchcock/Albini album, especially if we could get the three guitars of Hitchcock, Buck, and Albini on at once -- sort of "Perspex Atomizer For The People"... Jim Thirlwell? AKA Clint Ruin? AKA Foetus, Inc.?!?!? Yipes! That would be just about the scariest thing that could happen! I wouldn't want to hear a whole album of that, but a remix of "Uncorrected Personality Traits", Foetus-ized, might be truly frightening and effective. Dolph [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:18:55 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: R.H. poll web site To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Here's the URL for the poll. It won't be up until Monday morning. http://www.sccsi.com/lsli/feg.html enjoy! jay %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "Why isn't phonetics spelled the way it sounds?" hist1a@jetson.uh.edu -Steven Wright --Simpsons "And others might be magicians, "We'll inherit the Earth, but he was special too, But we don't want it." he had antlers." --Replacements --Robyn Hitchcock %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 95 09:56:59 From: Russ Reynolds To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: homophonic songs > A great public relations stunt would be if Robyn's self from a former artistic period were to sue his current self Didn't John Fogerty recently get sued for plagiarizing himself? Not EXACTLY the same thing, but it sure struck me as odd when it was happening. that reminds me...you can add CCR's "Cosmo's Factory" to my top ten + list. Russ rreynolds@ksjo.com [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 11:21:51 -0700 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: lets kick this around Stephen wrote: >>mikester wrote: >> I'd put my money on A&M (aka "Home of the Carpenters") than on any >> influence that REM may have had on him. Money's a powerful thing, and when >> the record label is waving $$$ under your nose for the _specific_ purpose >> of recording, I think that the artist, no matter _who_ it is would tend to >> spend it. They wanted albums with big production values, and they were >> willing to pay for it. > >Or they could have spent it on Steve Albini to record it and it would >have sounded godlike... Could you imagine what an Albini-recorded >Hitchcock album would sound like? > >Or they could ruin an album entirely by giving it to Flood (witness PJ >Harvey's newest compared to her first two) or Rick Ocasek or Butch Vig >or somebody... Albini seems to me to be utterly antithetical to Robyn's "pop" aesthetic. I don't know him personally, but some friends of mine have a band (The Poster Children) who record with him. He's very fond of noise, whereas Robyn got upset with how dissonant "Eaten By Her Own Dinner" was. If A&M had really wanted to spend big bucks to turn out a best-selling Robyn Hitchcock album, they couldn't have done better than to lure Pat Collier out of retirement and fly him to L.A. He could bring along some of that Alaska smell, too. (This is pretty much what EMI had to do with Pink Floyd -- they spent a fortune trying to recreate the sound Joe Boyd got on "Arnold Layne," and eventually had to take the tapes over to his studio to clone that hitmaking production.) Completely tangential note: have you noticed how "pop" has come to mean two unrelated things? We talk about _Perspex Island_ being more pop than _Fegmania_ -- it's closer to mainstream radio-friendly music that most people seem to like to listen to. Yet, in the other sense, nobody could dispute that _Fegmania_ is one of the most Pop albums of all time. Unfortunately for us, Pop is no longer pop. - David Librik librik@cs.Berkeley.edu [][][][][][][][][][] From: sfoskett@mailhost.viewlogic.com (Stephen Foskett) Subject: Re: lets kick Albini around To: HIST1A@jetson.uh.edu Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 15:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Cc: gene@viewlogic.com, fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > >>Of course, Robyn would probably weird Albini out (and Albini would > >>piss him off) and they would never finish it... > > > Albini? Isn't he that guy with the rubber-bands in his beard in that Cindy > Lauper video?...no, really who is he? Oops, I don't want to get too name-droppy and leave everyone out... Steve Albini was in Big Black and Rapeman and is in Shellac. He's (imho) a great engineer and music recorder, and doesn't "produce" things all to hell. Since people were talking about how Robyn's sound changed in the A&M years, I got to thinking that maybe he was just produced too much. Well, Albini is famous for getting really GREAT instrument sounds without really affecting the band's "sound" too much. Witness PJ Harvey's "Rid Of Me" or the (better known) Nirvana album, "In Utero", though DGC had Scott Litt play with the vocals on Nirvana's... I think he could do great things with softer music, too, though he hasn't gotten the chance ever... Y'all want a moody, powerful, raw-yet-good RH album? *grin* I actually like the idea of Jim Thirwell, too. I know he's got it in him and is likely to be less ... difficult to deal with than SA... Stephen [][][][][][][][][][] From: bc80233@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:30:33 -0400 (EDT) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: homophonic songs What's all this blather about homophonic songs? Don't gays and lesbians take enough crap without people writing songs that are blatantly anti-homosexual?....What's that?....Homophobic?...It's not the same word?...Oh. Well, then... Never mind. Emily Litella Actually, as far as songs sounding like other songs, I can't listen to Sheryl Crow without hearing other people's songs. "Leaving Las Vegas" sounds suspiciously like Steve Miller's "The Joker" (the bass line, that is) And "All I Wanna Do" has parts that sound just like "Stuck in the Middle with You" by Stealer's Wheel. Less obvious, IMHO, is "Strong Enough" (primarily the bass line again) and "Watch the North Wind Rise" by Hot Tuna. Perhaps I'm just looking for excuses to not like Crow. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 13:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Pearson Subject: Introduction (take 2) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Hello. My name is Paul. I'm new here. Just wanted to say hello. I work at a college station in Olympia, Washington, where Brooks Martin and I have made sure each of Robyn's new reissues (and the single on K Records) have charted on our playlist (Robyn was #1 three weeks ago.) Just saying hello. Bye. Why does everyone laugh | The Shrug Festival album of the week at my mighty sword, | is STILL: Paul Pearson | TEENAGE ZIT ROCK ANGST, various artists KAOS Olympia 89.3 | on Nard Wuar Records [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 16:57:23 -0500 (CDT) From: MILES GOOSENS Subject: Seen the Future To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu David Librick sez: > Completely tangential note: have you noticed how "pop" has come to mean > two unrelated things? We talk about _Perspex Island_ being more pop than > _Fegmania_ -- it's closer to mainstream radio-friendly music that most > people seem to like to listen to. Yet, in the other sense, nobody could > dispute that _Fegmania_ is one of the most Pop albums of all time. > Unfortunately for us, Pop is no longer pop. Well put. As a power pop connoisseur, I've often been heard to remark the same thing. Amazing how THE perfect music to hear blaring across a radio while driving on a sunny day is guitar-driven pop--the Hoodoo Gurus, the dBs, Shoes, Material Issue--yet you NEVER hear this music on the radio. So pop has come to mean "bland" and "lowest common denominator" rather than "melodic," "hook-filled," and "catchy." Sad. And if I had had the money in 1985, I would have bet on any of the above- mentioned groups (and X, Pete Shelley, even the Jazz Butcher and Robyn) to make it big before I would have guessed that something as densely woven, elliptical, and difficult as R.E.M. (even in _Green_/OOT "pop" mode) would have sold millions. Then again, who would have thought in 1975 that Peter Gabriel would become critically acclaimed and that his drummer in Genesis would be a huge international superstar? Funny how things work out... On another note, it seems like many of the artists whose careers date to the 1978-85 period who mine the melodic/intelligent vein seem to be undergoing career crises. Robyn maybe dumping the Egyptians and label shopping, Lloyd Cole and the Jazz Butcher making noises about calling it quits after this year's offerings, etc. Is there no future for smart popsters, at least saleswise? One can only hope that folks with similar leanings like Matthew Sweet and Weezer might wedge the door open, even if just a bit. Later, Miles [][][][][][][][][][] To: fegmaniax From: Gabe Zashin Date: 28 Apr 95 17:45:00 EDT Subject: Albini Someone said: I think he could do great things with softer music, too, though he hasn't gotten the chance ever... Y'all want a moody, powerful, raw-yet-good RH album? *grin* Actually, I think Albini has produced ("recorded" as he likes to put it) some Gastr Del Sol stuff, which is pretty soft, acoustic instruments and stuff. Personally I don't think it would be that great with Robyn, but a lot of Albini's work is great, and he tends to surprise (check out the Wedding Present album "Seamonsters" for example), even when working with bands you wouldn't think of as a natural fit. So who knows? Gabe [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:35:57 -0400 From: am497@freenet.buffalo.edu (Michael J. Swedene) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Albini-man Steve Albini and Robyn would be a cool combination, IMHO. I could envision, or hear, what Mr Albini would have done with "Zipper in My Spine," especially with the Soft Boys version. That would totally kick it!! Steve Albini, for those who don't know, is an engineer/producer/musician who is excellent at what he does. He has produced albums for The Pixies, Breeders, and NIRVANA. He hates the music industryt and he especially hates the "main stream" so after finishing "In Utero" he said he did not like working with NIrvana and he started calling Courtney Love-Cobain :( evil names. Enuff on that. What is the cover of Robyn's K 7" It looks like a trumpeter from the Apocalypseor something like that. -HERBIE -- I'm Looking for NIRVANA Bootlegs, Hitchcock too. "Give an inch and take an inch and what you've got is where you were The Universe is based on Sullen Entropy - It falls apart as it goes on." -Robyn Hitchcock [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 20:37:49 -0400 From: am497@freenet.buffalo.edu (Michael J. Swedene) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: REM and Robyn It is apparent that the two have influenced eachothers careers imensely. Robyn got them to be a band, with the help of The Soft Boys, while I think REM helped expose Robyn to a bigger audience on their tours and eventually to a polished record. No doubt they influenced him, but he influenced them first. Not that it matters or anthing like that. Enuff rambling Bye -HERBIE -- I'm Looking for NIRVANA Bootlegs, Hitchcock too. "Give an inch and take an inch and what you've got is where you were The Universe is based on Sullen Entropy - It falls apart as it goes on." -Robyn Hitchcock [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 18:05:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Pearson Subject: Re: lets kick Albini around To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > Well, Albini is famous for getting really GREAT instrument sounds > without really affecting the band's "sound" too much. Witness PJ > Harvey's "Rid Of Me" or the (better known) Nirvana album, "In Utero", > though DGC had Scott Litt play with the vocals on Nirvana's... > > I think he could do great things with softer music, too, though he > hasn't gotten the chance ever... Y'all want a moody, powerful, > raw-yet-good RH album? *grin* Albini's starting to branch out a little bit; he's just recorded a straight-up country song by a band whose name I can't remember. The song is called "She Took a Lot of Pills and Died," but it's definitely country. He leaves it alone and gets a dry, pretty straight-ahead recording. He could probably work okay with Robyn but I'm still not convinced it's the best match-up yet. Robyn's lack of popularity isn't because he hasn't written great pop songs. On an objective level "So You Think You're In Love" should have been a huge hit, but it didn't strike because pop music isn't popular anymore (oooh, how ironic). Robyn just isn't disposable enough for mass consumption. Shame, eh? I just joined this list, so I was kind of shocked to see that Robyn had kicked Andy and Morris outta his life. Could somebody privately send me the details?? Thanks. [][][][][][][][][][] From: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 22:30:52 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: RE: Albini Connection There is a lot of talk on this list about wishing Robyn could work with Albini. A friend of mine know Steve here in Chicago and gave me his AOL sign on name. Maybe we should e-mail him and ask him if it would be of interest to him directly. It beats talking hypothetically. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Fri, 28 Apr 1995 23:49:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Eve Subject: RE: Albini Connection To: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu On Fri, 28 Apr 1995 OLDSCHREC@aol.com wrote: > There is a lot of talk on this list about wishing Robyn could work with > Albini. A friend of mine know Steve here in Chicago and gave me his AOL sign > on name. Maybe we should e-mail him and ask him if it would be of interest > to him directly. It beats talking hypothetically. > WOW! "Put your money where your mouth is" time! I think it would be an excellent idea to get his input on the topic. And give him a chance to get his own two cent's worth in re: himself, perhaps? Eve ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We are all innocent in spite of you and me" -John Cale ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- eemsho77@ursa.Calvin.EDU [][][][][][][][][][] From: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 03:02:18 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope interview pt.1 PT: What are your earliest musical memories, Robyn? RH: The very first stuff that I heard was Bill Haley & The Comets doing "Rock Around The Clock", and Lonnie Donegan doing things like "Cumberland Gap"-skiffle. I don't know who listened to those records, it doesn't seem like the type of thing my mum would listen to, but they were there when I was small. I had these 45s, and then we had albums like "My Fair Lady"-I remember I used to listen to that all the time. One day, the Queen was scheduled to be going past this place in Gloucestershire, near where my mother's family comes from. The Queen was going to be driven past this hedge on a certain day, and we knew all about it. I ran around sticking these Union Jacks we'd bought into this hedge and singing all these songs from "My Fair Lady" at the top of my voice, "Wouldn't It Be Luvverly" and "Why Can't The English Learn To Speak". I was four, I think. Eventually the Queen came by, and she just went by in her car in 3 seconds. Her hand just had time for a wave and a half. I turned to my mother and said "Was that it?" and we took the Union Jacks out of the hedge. And that was that. [][][][][][][][][][] From: Sherrett@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 03:04:56 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: "Paisly Underground" > Benjamin M. Brainard wrote: > This of course means that somehow "Queen of Eyes" has been translated into "Keep Your Hands to Yourself" Actually I think "Keep Your Hands To Yourself" was ripped off note for note from The Morrells' "Big Guitar". [][][][][][][][][][] From: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 03:06:14 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Ptolemaic Terrascope interview pt.2 PT: Do you reckon she did the Royal Wave for the whole of the journey then? RH: I reckon she continued past that--I saw her ten years later when they opened the Severn Bridge and she was still doing the same wave. She may not even had time to change her clothes. So that was my earliest musical memory, and I still find sections of something like that will crop up in a song. I'll suddenly think, "Ah, I recognize that- it's from "My Fair Lady". [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 09:55:06 -0400 From: RP6123A@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 09:50:04 EDT Resent-From: "Richard E. Poole" Resent-To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 09:39:36 EDT From: "Richard E. Poole" Organization: The American University Subject: Glass Flesh Sorry to make everyone read this, but I don't seem to have Bayard's current email address, Bayard! I'm sure you detest me by now, but what the hey? Sorry to be so late with my "Midnight Fish" tape, but it is done & ready to go. Unfortunately, I had your address in an unsaved MS word file when my power went out last night. (having erased the original email.) In other word, I need your address again. If you can get it to me before noon today, I'll get it in today's mail. Sorry again for the hassle. Also -- what is the plan for distribution? Let me know if I can help (as a "parent" or whatnot) although you probably have misgivings about my reliability by this point... In my defense (gee, I'm pretty defensive for a guy who hasn't even been attacked yet!) I'm trying to put out my record company's first CD (BTW - an excellent 16 song eclectic compilation called "Kitsch 'n' Sync" - out 5/5/95 & only $12 postpaid! -- jeez, this business thing is really getting to me) at the same time I'm trying to finish up law school (I supposedly graduate in 3 weeks) so I'm kinda busy... Whatever - let me know what's up. -ed. rp6123a@american.edu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 10:05:53 -0500 (CDT) From: JAY LYALL Subject: Re: Ptolemaic Terrascope interview pt.1 To: OLDSCHREC@aol.com Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu > I was four, I think. Eventually the Queen came by, and she just went by in >her car in 3 seconds. Her hand just had time for a wave and a half. I >turned to my mother and said "Was that it?" and we took the Union Jacks out >of the hedge. And that was that. Robyn as Professor Higgins...I'd pay to see that..."Put these chameleons in your mouth and pronounce your vowels"...or more suiting Robyn as Dr Doolittle...riding around in the giant snail or strapped to the giant lunar moth... %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Jay Lyall "Capy Toad Blast" "Why isn't phonetics spelled the way it sounds?" hist1a@jetson.uh.edu -Steven Wright --Simpsons "And others might be magicians, "We'll inherit the Earth, but he was special too, But we don't want it." he had antlers." --Replacements --Robyn Hitchcock %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 29 Apr 95 11:01:25 EWT From: "Jasper, this ones evil" Subject: Hitchcock on The Difference this morning To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Hey now. Todd Rundgren played a performance of Robyn doing "DeChirico Street" plus an interview explaining the song this morning. Todd does a radio music type show called "The Difference" which is on really early Saturday morning in my part of the world, and since I usually dont get up that early I wasnt ready to tape it. Oh well, it was on, I heard it, and it was good. Monty (the Fegmaniac formerly known as Jay) [][][][][][][][][][] From: mikester@bix.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: "Paisly Underground" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >no, but funny enough, I did read an interview with Dan Baird, of Georgia >Sattelites fame (if one can call it that) who cited robyn as a big >influence on his songwriting. I would have said he was influenced by Mick Jagger, but Robyn?? ---Mike (Nickname o' the month - "Rickenbacker Boy") [][][][][][][][][][] From: mikester@bix.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:47:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Seen the Future To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >On another note, it seems like many of the artists whose careers date to >the 1978-85 period who mine the melodic/intelligent vein seem to be >undergoing career crises. Don't forget Scott Miller. The Louds need a new bass player and Alias's problems with doing things like getting albums out the door. ---Mike (Nickname o' the month - "Rickenbacker Boy") [][][][][][][][][][] From: mikester@bix.com Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 13:47:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: lets kick Albini around To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu >I would like to hear Robyn record something with a more technically minded >producer, though, like Martin Bisi, or Jim Thirlwell, or Bill Laswell. >Things would get *really* interesting with those guys. Personally, I'd like to see him record with Mitch Easter, and not because of the REM connection. Listen to some of those Game Theory and Loud Family albums he's produced for something that has a big sound but sounds intimate at the same time. Plus Easter _really_ knows how to get a great drum sound. ---Mike (Nickname o' the month - "Rickenbacker Boy") [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found on fegmania.wustl.edu:/fegmaniax and ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax. For administrative questions, subscription requests, and all that boring crud, send mail to fegmaniax-request@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...