Fegmaniax Digest <==----------==> (Send posts to the list to fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send adminstrative requests to majordomo@nsmx.rutgers.edu) (Send comments, etc to the listowner at owner-fegmaniax@nsmx.rutgers.edu) <==----------==> Volume 3 Number 59 Today's Topics: ------- ------ *Other Music Other music ABP on my musical taste Airscape chords Argh... (alvin lives in leeds) Faves list Gruel with bees Mark Ellen Other Music Other Stuff Other bands Other music TT the Bear's setlist available Who is Mark Ellen? other bands other music other music ... rhino liner notes online [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:34:16 -0400 From: wombat toga party To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: rhino liner notes online fegfolk, thanks to the efforts of tracey copland, the liner notes from six of the rhino reissues are now in the archives. they can be found on fegmania.wustl.edu in the fegmaniax/liner_notes/RhinoReissues directory. for the web-capable, that's ftp://fegmania.wustl.edu/fegmaniax/liner_notes/RhinoReissues speaking of the web, it seems that httpd has been temporarily shut down on remus. i'm not sure when it will come back up and what impact that may have on the fegmaniax page. will keep you all posted when i figure out what is going on. woj [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 11:19:33 -0500 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jmittell@students.wisc.edu (Jajasoon Tlitteu) Subject: Airscape chords I'm pretty sure that he plays an Asus2 not an A throughout (x02200). Even if he doesn't, it sounds better that way, with the bottom two strings open throughout the song (play the Bsus4 x24400). And then you also should add the descending bass line on the second section (under the A chord). Thanks for the chart! ******** jajasoon tlitteu (jmittell@students.wisc.edu) "If combat means living in a ditch, females have biological problems staying in a ditch for thirty days because they get infections and they don't have upper-body strength. On the other hand, men are basically little piglets; you drop them in the ditch, they roll around in it, it doesn't matter. If combat means being on an Aegis-class cruiser, managing computer controls for twelve ships and their rockets, a female may again be dramatically better than a male, who gets very, very frustrated sitting in a chair all the time because males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes." --- Newt "Little Piglet" Gingrich, practically Quaylesque [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 12:40:33 PST From: "Martin A. HOYT" To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Who is Mark Ellen? I was listening to "Eye" last night and reading the liner notes to "Respect" (even I am not sure why), and I noticed that one of the people mentioned on "Eye" (in "Clean Steve" in believe) was Mark Ellen. Lo and behold, this same person is in the credits to "Respect". I believe he did some photography. Does anyone know his connection to Robyn? Is he just one Robyn's acquaintances? If this has been discussed previously, please forgive my ignorance, I've only been a subscriber to this group for a few months. On a slightly related topic, is the Rhino reissue of "Eye" worth buying for the demos which aren't on the Twintone CD? Martin "For thine is the Kingdom... ...and mine is the other bit" [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 15:55:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Doug Mayo-Wells To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Argh... (alvin lives in leeds) On Fri, 21 Apr 1995, Julian Stewart wrote: > > > I was in Denver the other day, spending more money than I should > on music. Naturally, I looked around for any strange Hitchcock releases. > > One small store had an odd looking disc, something about poll tax > as the title. It did not specifically have Robyn's name on the disc, but > I did notice that 1) It was on Midnight Music 2) "Kung Fu Fighting" was > listed as one of the tracks! > > Stupidly, I did not pick it up-- I got too excited about a stack > of used Go-Betweens discs I found. But does anyone either have or know > what this is? (it would seem more likely that U.K. fans would be familiar > with this...) > > > thanx, > > julian > it's a benefit cd opposing the british pool tax. the songs are all 'alternative artists' covering various pop tunes, many from the disco era. kung fu fighting is acapella (andy sings too). track list: lush - chirpy chirpy cheep cheep five thirty - my sweet lord cud - bohemian rhapsody the popguns - bye bye baby (w/ amelia, presumably of heavenly) crocodile ride - i feel love robyn hitchcock - kung fu fighting corn dollies - le freak the weeding present - make me smile (come up and see me) the close lobsters - float on the 14 iced bears - summer nights the siddeleys - love grows (where my rosemary goes) the perfect disaster - wanderin' star if you don't like any of the other artists, it might not be worh it, since, the robyn song is only about 2 minutes long -- but it seems unlikely that most fegs would fail to dig the likes of wedding present and close lobsters doug -----dmayowel@access.digex.net-------------------------------------------- = We drove further, and I considered the genetic shakedown of Cushman = = driving techniques. Sylvia drove in abstracted sheets of motion while = = her son drove in sparse, violently efficient motions. He was a terse = = Dashiel Hammet sentence on wheels. (David Bowman, _Let_the_Dog_Drive_) = ----------------------------------------------------doug-mayo-wells------- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 16:25:01 EDT From: Chris Coates Subject: Other music To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu This common bond of RH's music has me curious: what else do you listen to? What bands/artists strike your fancy? The reason I ask is that RH is unlike anything else, that I wonder what intersections are out there. If you deem this non-Robyn stuff (but it really IS related), then simply e-mail your responses. I look forward to hearing. Chris Coates chrisco@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:36:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Carl Abraham Zimring To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Mark Ellen Mark Ellen is a british rock writer (and a darned good one at that). Formerly the editor of Q, he now contributes to Mojo, two of my favorite music publications on the planet. Carl [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 17:47:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Carl Abraham Zimring To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Other music Well, I'm into Robyn for the more personal lyrics (ie, I prefer Eye to Globe of Frogs by several nautical miles) and the nifty guitar work (Underwater Moonlight is my favorite album). Thus, there may be some logic to the following list o' folks I also listen to. Staples: American Music Club Husker Du Uncle Tupelo Henry Threadgill Graham Parker Mekons Carmaig deForest Camper Van Beethoven Eleventh Dream Day Some recent stuff: The Sea and Cake Tarnation Gastr del Sol The Handsome Family Yo La Tengo Astute scholars of musical geography may correctly infer I've spent a lot of time in the SF Bay Area and Chicago. I'm curious to see what other people like & hope this thread continues. Carl [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 18:44:13 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu (John B. Jones) Subject: Re: Other music Besides Robyn, my other obsession is the 4AD record label and most of the bands on it. This used to be a small record label in England specializing in moody bands like Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, Clan of Xymox, This Mortal Coil, etc. but is now pretty mainstream and corporate (Belly, Throwing Muses, Breeders, Frank Black) I also like Bill Nelson, Elvis Costello, Brian Eno, and girl-fronted groups like The Spinanes, Stereolab, Velocity Girl, Frente, and Madder Rose. The musical "skeleton in my closet" is Prince, or O+>, or The Artist Formerly Known as....You all won't hate me now will you? True confessions are so painful... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- John B. Jones e-mail: jojones@mailbox.syr.edu LYRIC OF THE MONTH: "If life is a performance, and I am not an actor, am I supposed to lay down and die?" -Juliana Hatfield "Its good to see so many of you wearing glasses" -Robyn, Seattle, May 1, 93 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [][][][][][][][][][] Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 18:47:38 EDT Resent-From: Chris Coates Resent-To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Date: Sat, 22 Apr 95 18:38:16 EDT From: Chris Coates Subject: *Other Music To: fexmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Yeah,, I recognize a lot of familiar stuff here. My tastes are all over the map, but a sample includes VU P.J. Harvey Michael Nyman Le Mystere Des Voix Bulgares Pixies Yo La Tengo Van Morrison Les Negresses Vertes (Old) Billy Bragg and others Chris [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:18:47 -0400 (EDT) From: KEN W Subject: Re: other bands To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu There's just something really cool I find about Robyn, but I actually don't think I listen to anything too similar. Some of my favorites are: Husker Du/Bob Mould/Sugar, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Cult, Dramarama, Bauhaus, Stiff Little Fingers, and Nick Cave (who actually has to do with that Robyn, Tom Waits thread). Ken kw1247@cnsvax.albany.edu [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 18:20:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Dolph Chaney, vox/gtr, PORT RADIUM" Subject: Re: Other music To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu OK, I resisted as long as I could, but here goes. MAJOR OBSESSIONS: XTC Elvis Costello The Beatles Frank Zappa King Crimson Husker Du / Bob Mould / Sugar EXTENDED FLIRTATIONS: R.E.M. Uncle Tupelo Brian Eno Shudder To Think The Posies Big Star The Who Richard Thompson Neil Young Wire U2 Miles Davis John Coltrane Charles Ives ONE-ALBUM STANDS (e.g. I only like one of their albums, but I like it a lot): Midnight Oil - DIESEL AND DUST Lenny Kravitz - ARE YOU GONNA GO MY WAY Morphine - CURE FOR PAIN [There's so much more, but I've already done too much!] Oh, and lots and lots of ROBYN HITCHCOCK!!! WOOO-HOOOOOOOOO!!! Dolph [][][][][][][][][][] From: mad5c@server.cs.virginia.edu Subject: TT the Bear's setlist available To: fegmaniax Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:31:28 -0400 (EDT) I interrupt this discussion of related bands and music to announce that I have for the moment another Hitchock artifact available. Nora Glass, who has a doubly cool name, made available to me a copy of the setlist from the 2nd show at TT the Bear's on April 18th. This particular setlist is interesting in that it is in the handwriting with the peculiar backward E's. It also has some handwriting that is definitely RH's as well. A million cheers for Nora! I'd encourage everyone with WWW access to take a look. It's available as a 15K GIF at http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~mad5c/fegmaniax/tt2.gif and a slightly smoothed 50K JPEG at http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~mad5c/fegmaniax/tt2.jpg If you are a mosaic user you may want to stick to the GIF image, because I undertand that mosaic's ability to display JPEG images varies from site to site. If you have any trouble viewing these please let me know through e-mail, so as not to bother the other fegsters. I'd like to add too that I'll be more than happy to scan in other setlists folks without scanners might want to send me. E-mail me and we'll work something out. I prefer setlists to pictures because they're small and the images take up little room. Mike. --- Michael DeLong - UVa Department of Computer Science - mike@virginia.edu --- "Join the 10% with the lead pipes." -- Dan Johnson (The Elder Dan) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 19:42:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Hazard Lights And Triangles Subject: Gruel with bees To: Fegmaniax List Funny, when I met a bunch of fegs at the Newbury Comics appearance in Boston, there was a lot of taste-overlap, but I haven't seen any of those bands yet... Anyway, the artists who have their own constant place on my shelf are: Game Theory/Loud Family The Chills Robyn Wire and its related projects Shriekback The Fall Blue Aeroplanes American Music Club Oingo Boingo Husker Du/Bob Mould/Sugar Madness So there you are. Aaron -------------------------------------------------------------------------- In the stereo: Guadalcanal Diary, "2x4"; New Order, "Substance"; Magnetic Fields, "Holiday"; Guided By Voices, "Bee Thousand"; Madness, "One Step Beyond...". --;--;-@ [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:15:45 -0400 (EDT) From: LEW Subject: Re: other music ... To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Hi all, I guess in this case I will be forgiven with breaking list etiquette, ie not posting until after lurking long and hard, as I share with you all my other favorite groups. Two are below in my sig, but there are others. The Chameleons, Sad Lovers and Giants, Bob Mould/Sugar/Husker Du, The Mission, Smashing Pumpkins, Offspring, Replacements, The Cure, and the Smithereens are bands that currently tops with me right now. Again, pardon my intrusion, Lew -- -- Lew J. Harasymiw --- BC Law ----- harasymi@bcvms.bc.edu ---- | | | "Like a nightmare from the past, To the sound of | | splintered glass dance the monsters in the mask." | | - The Chameleons | | | | "Fears revolve round one theme, Smothered thoughts enter | | every dream. As cold hands stretch through the night, | | Their secret rests far from sight." | | - Sad Lovers and Giants | --------------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:17:21 -0400 (EDT) From: LEW Subject: Re: other music To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Sorry, I forgot the Church as well. Lew -- -- Lew J. Harasymiw --- BC Law ----- harasymi@bcvms.bc.edu ---- --------------------------------------------------------------- [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:36:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Eve Subject: Re: Other bands To: Hitchcock List Like John B. Jones, I am also quite fond of the 4AD label, and many bands which did/are coming from that label. In addition, I am on the Factory label list. Two very, very important labels for music, past and present, IMHO. I'll narrow this down to BARE essentials. There's many many other bands I've seen here that I like. It's still a long list. . .:) I find my tastes center around two-guitar bands, for some reason. ** The Church !!! Steve Kilbey Blue Aeroplanes The Chameleons Julian Cope Hitchcock/Soft Boys Brian Eno (seems a lot people here like him!!) Bill Laswell New Model Army Sonic Youth Peter Gabriel Leonard Cohen Dead Can Dance The Close Lobsters Wire The Fall Shriekback Syd Barrett The Bats The Chills And LOTS and LOTS of other great music coming out of New Zealand (David Kilgour, the Clean. . .) and Australia. And I've just started getting into Bill Nelson. Eve ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I hate Shakespeare. He's too hard to read. I wish he were dead. . . .Oh, he is?" --Couch Flambeau ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- eemsho77@ursa.Calvin.EDU [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:17:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Bebergal Subject: re: other music To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Frank Black!!!!! nuff said [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 21:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Pamela A Lowy To: Chris Coates Cc: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Other music Robyn I like intelligent, los Beatles non-too-heavily-varnished Guided by Voices pop music for cynical the Pixies dreamers and existential the Breeders romantics. REM Velvet Underground -Pam * Liz Phair The Smiths The Cure "Life is a long trip - terrifying and wonderful" - Henry Rollins [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 02:06:59 GMT To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu From: lgray@pop01.ny.us.ibm.net (Lee Gray) Subject: Faves list I was surprised to see a lot of 'my' taste in bands overlapping with a lot of yours... since I don't think I listen to much else that's similar to Hitchcock. Here's small sampling... All-time faves: -------------- god... er, I mean Brian Eno The Fall Wire and *all* of their side projects Einsturzende Neubauten Sonic Youth Other faves: ----------- Big Black The Birthday Party (although I'm not crazy about Nick Cave Solo/Seeds) Bowie (up to around 1980) Chrome The Cure (at least up until Kiss Me x3) The Flaming Lips Husker Du Mercury Rev Pixies Residents Spacemen 3 XTC ...and the obligatory 'and many, many more'! Lee --< Lee Gray >-- lgray@ibm.net [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:28:14 -0400 From: cb236@freenet.carleton.ca (Caroline Smith) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Other music Here's another schizophrenic list of bands. My interests, which radiate from RH, include: Luna Saint Etienne Spiritualized/Spaceman 3 Julian Cope Sloan Boo Radleys Velvet Underground Leonard Cohen Sonic Youth Jane Sibbery The Transparencies Isotopia I can't understand the popularity of Husker Du etc. among us. Oh, well. By the way, this is a first-time contribution. I'm an English student at the University of Ottawa. I'm trying to work RH somehow into a PHd. dissertation (a few years away.) bye for now - Caroline. [][][][][][][][][][] From: ZeroSummer@aol.com Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 22:40:12 -0400 To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Other Music What fun! Robyn's my favorite, I say for context's sake. Here's a few more favorites: XTC Cranes Sundays VU Pixies R.E.M. Wire Beatles Joy Division Cure Bruce Cockburn Camper Van Beethoven Victoria Williams Lisa Germano . . . and much much more, the old cliche. I'm overwhemingly into female artists the past few years, I should add. Later! --Joe [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Sat, 22 Apr 1995 20:03:45 -0700 From: librik@netcom.com (David Librik) To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu Subject: Re: Other Stuff The day I knew why I loved Robyn so much was the one where I saw his TOP TEN ALBUMS in the reissued _Gotta Let This Hen Out_. His taste is the same as mine! At the risk of repeating him, I'll list my other favorite artists: Steeleye Span Syd Barrett Roy Wood (and the Move) The Pogues Tyrannosaurus Rex Runrig The Oyster Band Liz Phair The Kinks (circa _Village Green Preservation Society_) R.E.M. The cool thing about Robyn Hitchcock is that he's good for so many different reasons. So people who like him can come from many different musical-taste backgrounds. I'm sure that this is why you can't categorize Robyn fans: I remember the pleasurable jolt I got when I heard "Balloon Man" blasting out of a window on Fraternity Row. - David Librik librik@cs.Berkeley.edu [][][][][][][][][][] From: mrd@world.std.com (Mitchell R Dickerman) Subject: ABP on my musical taste To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu (Fegmaniax) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 1995 00:36:30 -0400 (EDT) > Funny, when I met a bunch of fegs at the Newbury Comics appearance in > Boston, there was a lot of taste-overlap, but I haven't seen any of those > bands yet... > > Anyway, the artists who have their own constant place on my shelf are: > > Game Theory/Loud Family, The Chills,Robyn > Wire and its related projects, Shriekback, The Fall, Blue Aeroplanes > American Music Club, Oingo Boingo > Husker Du/Bob Mould/Sugar, Madness I was one of those Feg's you met, Aaron, and I'm really annoyed that you walked off with my musical tastes and divied them up with Eve, who mentions the other half of my favorites (Chameleons, The Church, Julian Cope, Dead Can Dance, Syd Barrett, The Bats and all things Kiwi). Of course, there are a few other major players (XTC, Stranglers, del Amitri, Wedding Present, Bill Nelson, Lloyd Cole, and the Jazz Butcher). Oh, and by the way, anyone who likes the Blue Aeroplanes is an instant friend of mine. God they're so wonderful and criminally unknown. _Rough Music_ is the best album of 1995 so far. Anyway, it's funny - on the Chameleons mailing list, the peoples tastes are very, very similar, yet we see a wide variety here. In fact, I remember when I was going into see the show here in Boston the guy in front of me was saying how he had 6 Robyn CDs and had more from only one other band,the Indigo Girls. That struck me as strange, and yet I suppose there're alot of people with fairly 'mainstream' tastes that are into Robyn. For me (as well as most of us) he's in my musical pantheon, but I suppose for others it's like going to services once a year - something fun and different and a break from the every- day stuff. Mitch P.S. Here's a really, really hard challenge: Your top ten albums/CDs of all time. Depending on my mood and time of day, mine looks something like: 1. The Chameleons, _Strange Times_ 2. Robyn Hitchcock, _Fegmania!_ 3. XTC, _The Big Express_ 4. The Jazz Butcher, _Sex & Travel/Scandal In Bohemia_ (on one CD) 5. The Wedding Present, _George Best_ 6. The Chills, _Kaleidoscope World_ 7. The Blue Aeroplanes, _Swagger_ 8. Lloyd Cole & The Commotions, _Rattlesnakes_ 9. del Amitri, _Waking Hours_ 10. Kitchens Of Distinction, _Strange Free World_ Yeah yeah, stuck in the mid-80's for the most part. [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found on fegmania.wustl.edu:/fegmaniax and ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax. For administrative questions, subscription requests, and all that boring crud, send mail to fegmaniax-request@nsmx.rutgers.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...