Fegmaniax Digest Volume 2 Number 37 Today's Topics: ------- ------ "Down the Hope" in "Loser" A Soft Boy Some More Barrett CREEM magazine, circa 1987 Dark Globe Discography Helicopters More covers New Info? RE: The Loser song - aka "Trash" Re : Dark Globe cover by REM Robyn's 2p on covers SPECTRE for sale! Song Titles Speaking of Teen Mags... Syd Barrett Syd Barrett, Part II The Loser song - aka "Trash" Trash Trash - a followup to Mike early Pink Floyd songs trash [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 30 May 1994 16:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Rohith Sood Subject: More covers To: fegmaniax-digest@gnu.ai.mit.edu Here's a list of interesting, but probably not pretty covers! "Serprent at the Gates of Wisdom" -Neil Young (with harmonica!) "Freeze" - the Replacements (maybe just the fast part) "Superman" -the Replacements "Wafflehead" - De La Soul "She Doesn't Exist" -Tom Jones ;-) On a totally unrelated note, I heard that Robyn was supposed to play the Music West Conference in Vancouver, B.C. a few weeks ago. Did this actually happen, or have I been out in the sun too long? Rohith [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 16:42:36 -0500 (EST) From: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Subject: CREEM magazine, circa 1987 To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu CREEM magazine put RH on its cover sometime in 1987 - I am looking for this particular issue. Anyone out there w/ a extra copy they're willing to sell? [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 31 May 94 17:13:15 CDT From: Cullen Grace To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Speaking of Teen Mags... (this is the perfect place to ask) A number of years ago--I believe early 1990--one of the Teen music magazines, possibly Creem or Seventeen, supposedly had a flexidisc of REM doing a cover of Syd Barrett's "Dark Globe." Was this story spurious or was this item actually put out? Thanks. Cullen Grace [][][][][][][][][][] From: mad5c@server.cs.virginia.edu Subject: Re: Speaking of Teen Mags... To: Cullen Grace Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:03:25 -0400 (EDT) Cc: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu The magazine in question is "Sassy", which is allegedly targeted at 14-year-old girls. I'm not sure if the accompanying article referred to JMS as "hunky" or not :) The flexi had JMS singing solo, accompanied by someone on piano. You'll hear much better versions of "Dark Globe" on the Borderline bootlegs. Mike. Says Cullen Grace: >> >> (this is the perfect place to ask) >> >> A number of years ago--I believe early 1990--one of the Teen music magazines, >> possibly Creem or Seventeen, supposedly had a flexidisc of REM doing a cover >> of Syd Barrett's "Dark Globe." Was this story spurious or was this item >> actually put out? Thanks. >> >> Cullen Grace >> -- Mike DeLong - UVa Department of Computer Science - delong@virginia.edu. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 21:51:17 -0600 (MDT) From: Michael Rosen Subject: Re: Speaking of Teen Mags... To: Cullen Grace Cc: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu On Tue, 31 May 1994, Cullen Grace wrote: > (this is the perfect place to ask) > > A number of years ago--I believe early 1990--one of the Teen music magazines, > possibly Creem or Seventeen, supposedly had a flexidisc of REM doing a cover > of Syd Barrett's "Dark Globe." Was this story spurious or was this item > actually put out? Thanks. The magazine in question was Sassy. I don't remember the issue number/date but I have a copy of it at my parents' house. Mike -- Michael Rosen, CPA mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu George Washington University (Fall '92) Tau Epsilon Phi, Tau Theta 381 "Paint your bald spot?" -- alt.fan.don-n-mike [][][][][][][][][][] From: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) Subject: Re: Speaking of Teen Mags... To: grac@midway.uchicago.edu (Cullen Grace) Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 8:47:15 MET DST Cc: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu (pleasure of the aching void) > (this isn't the perfect place to ask, but I don't care) > > A number of years ago--I believe early 1990--one of the Teen music magazines, > possibly Creem or Seventeen, supposedly had a flexidisc of REM doing a cover > of Syd Barrett's "Dark Globe." Was this story spurious or was this item > actually put out? Thanks. this was released as a b-side to their Everybody Hurts single. I suppose it would be an import item in the US. no idea if it's the same version as on the flexi (hey, a permutation of felix, a former colleague...), but it is stipe solo, with piano accompaniamentimenti. > > Colena Graci and friends > with a smile... [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 10:25:48 EDT From: ST1D000 To: Subject: Dark Globe I remember r.e.m. doing "Dark Globe" as an encore during their Green tour. I have a version of the song on which I think the entire band plays, but now that I think about it, it may just be Stipe & piano. I found it on one of those ill-fated mini cds that were around in the late 80's. I wouldn't go out of my way to find it, as it has value mainly as a curiosity. Stipe does his best to rend the song limb from limb vocally, and though I've never heard the Barrett version, I imagine it's probably better. It goes without saying that Robyn would have done a much better job... Since I respect (no pun intended) the opinions of the Robyn fans on this list, I'd like to ask which Syd Barrett album would be a good buy for someone who has never heard the man, but who likes RH, Soft Boys, etc? Any opinions on the newly released box set? But of course, all of that is tangential to the more important subject of Robyn. I was scanning through the radio stations the other day and heard a song on an "oldies" station which was musically very similar to "Have a Heart Betty (I'm Not Fireproof)". I didn't catch the name of whoever performed it, so I was wondering if anyone had any ideas? For some reason, I want to say that it was Chuck Berry or Little Richard but I could be utterly wrong. Let me know if anyone can come up with any clues... DS "The foliage is howling without symmetry and the chapel is expanding in the park." [][][][][][][][][][] From: "Sebastian Hagedorn" Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:25:12 +0200 To: ST1D000 , Subject: Re: Dark Globe On Jun 1, 10:25am, ST1D000 wrote: > Subject: Dark Globe > Since I respect (no pun intended) the opinions of the Robyn fans on this > list, I'd like to ask which Syd Barrett album would be a good buy for > someone who has never heard the man, but who likes RH, Soft Boys, etc? > Any opinions on the newly released box set? Well, I bought the box set without ever having heard any Syd Barrett material. I did have "The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn", though, and was expecting something similar to that. Although it doesn't quite meet my expectations I don't consider it a bad buy. Sometimes it's very easy to see where he influenced Robyn, but it takes some getting used to. I'd recommend getting "The Madcap Laughs" for starters. If you like that, get the others as well. Greetings, Sebastian -- Sebastian Hagedorn "Keep passing the open windows!" Linguistic Data Processing, System Administrator Cologne University, Germany E-Mail: Hagedorn@spinfo.uni-koeln.de [][][][][][][][][][] From: Anna Wilson Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:16:07 +0000 To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Barrett While we're on the subject of Syd Barrett, can anybody tell me where the following Barrett-era Floyd tracks are? I've got them on a dodgy german bootleg that's beginning to disintegrate, and I don't want to loose them: 1. Apples and Oranges 2. Candy and a Currant Bun 3. Point Me At The Sky 4. Scream Thy Last Scream Sorry for this being non-Hitchcock-related, but anyway they'd all sound brilliant if he did covers of them ... (yeah, I know, that thread's over) Anna [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 12:20:59 -0500 (EST) From: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Subject: Syd Barrett To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Re Syd Barrett, his eponymous second album is quite good too but at this point poor Syd was quite rapidly going downhill and the music reflects this. Chilling in retrospect, but still listenable. Another good album (I'm a vinyl junkie), if you can find it, is "Beyond the Wildwood: A Tribute to Syd Barrrett", released about hmm, 1986-87 or so. Its a compilation of Syd material but bands that I have never heard of (perhaps the most well known is the ones who had a hit with the Stones' "I'm Free" several years ago ... Soup Dragons or Mock Turtles, teh name escapes me at the moment). Its good ... some of it is a rather slavish imitation of Syd, right down to his voice and style of guitar playing; but others take the songs and play around with them, in one or two cases improving on the original. Any way its a good one to check out. By the way, I don't quite understand why Robyn is constantly compared to Syd Barrett all the time; there are similarities but I find that he is a lot closer to Lennon (vocally) and "Don't Look Back"-era Dylan (lyrically). At first I thought he sounded like Syd, but now after listening to more of his music it isn't really the case. Perhaps, like the "eccentric" label, it makes it easier for the music media to slot him into a neat little package. Well, that's my ramble for today -- Vashty. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Wed, 01 Jun 1994 14:44:58 -0500 (EST) From: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Subject: Syd Barrett, Part II To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu After posting that last message of mine, I thought I would like to clarify something a bit. When I say that Syd Barrett's influence on Robyn is perhaps over-emphasized by some, this is not to deny that the influence is there. Barrett's songs are delightful, often fantastical and very English, qualities that Robyn's songs share in abundance. But as the great man has said himself, he has loads of influences of which Syd Barrett is just a part. I would probably be annoyed too if people kept comparing me to one person without taking the whole picture into consideration. It is really unfortunate that the media seem content to liken an artist to a myriad of things that already exist, instead of concentrating on what makes them unique. Nobody writes songs like Robyn, and he is grievously underrated (especially in Britain, oddly enough). I listen to what the Soft Boys were all about, and can't understand why they weren't more appreciated by the general public. More ramble ... must stop drinking that industrial-strength coffee. Peace, Vashty (again) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 09:20:03 -0500 To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu From: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Gene Hopstetter) Subject: SPECTRE for sale! I've got a copy of the SPECTRE CD for sale. If you're interested, e-mail me with a bid. "Beads and fish changed hands, and children stayed up late!' =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Writer/Layout/WWW Guy + Tulane Computing Services =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ "Give me some more terminology!" -- Slovenly [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MCINTYRE@msupa.pa.msu.edu To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: early Pink Floyd songs From: Anna Wilson >While we're on the subject of Syd Barrett, can anybody tell me >where the following Barrett-era Floyd tracks are? I've got >them on a dodgy german bootleg that's beginning to disintegrate, >and I don't want to loose them: >1. Apples and Oranges >2. Candy and a Currant Bun >3. Point Me At The Sky >4. Scream Thy Last Scream "Scream Thy Last Scream" was never officially released, so you'll have to resort to bootlegs to get it. The other three are on the _Early Singles_ disc from the _Shine On_ set. _Early Singles_ is the only album "Point Me At The Sky" ever appeared on. "Apples and Oranges" and "Candy and a Currant Bun" did appear on a Dutch album entitled _The Best Of Pink Floyd_, which I don't think has been released on CD. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University [][][][][][][][][][] From: V4vendetta@aol.com To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Sat, 04 Jun 94 18:38:36 EDT Subject: New Info? hello... i would like to search through the archives but i am on AOL, and cannot access much of anything through here.... i don't know if this info is out there yet, i just got it in the mail a few days ago, around the same time i decided to look for something Robyn related on the net.... according to Mrs. Wafflehead & her minions of toadies, the reason that robyn hasn't been around is because he has been touring the rest of the world... he did two UK tours with the egyptians and one 13th anniversary tour with the Soft Boys.. he also played australia, japan and italy, and did a few solo acoustic dates..... Andy Metcalfe and his wife Lil just had a baby girl, Jamie is her name... Robyn has been recording some spoken word stories, one of them, "Moose Mark and The Prince of Cones" was recently read on the BBC radio, and is the short story on the Respect sleeve. he and andy plan to do more of this kind of thing in the future... robyn and the egyptians are working on the demos for a new album which is tentatively titled, "Surfer Ghost".... the soft boys are thinking about doing a short reunion tour of the US across the coasts (sorry, midwest)... Contrary to stupid rumours, the soft boys have never had any intention of taking part in LotsaPiercedLosers '94.. but robyn will be a part of the Music West festival and conference in vancouver and may do some solo dates around that time... so, if you are in canada.... lastly, if you want to get on the mailing list and find out about other robyn stuff without having to ask me.... write to Mrs Wafflehead directly.... it is free, but it never hurts to enclose an IRC.. the address is.. Mrs. Wafflehead P.O. Box 1854 London, UK W10 4ZA she also says (i know, i keep trying to end it, but i can't help myself) that she will be the only outlet for authorized bootlegs of the Soft Boys shows in the UK, she is also selling some of the back catalogue, a few T-shirts circa respect and a collection of Soft Boys oddities never before released called "Give it to the Thoth Boys", i have ordered it already, so i will post a review after i get it... but don't take my word for it, i am very biased..... V4vendetta [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 5 Jun 94 08:08:00 EST From: "Mike Brown - ST (EXT 230)" Subject: Song Titles To: "fegmaniax" What is the name of the song with birds head in the lyric? I've seen it refered to as Birdshead, Autumn Is Your Last Chance, and Withered And Died. And what is the name of the song with helicopter in the lyrics? I've seen it called Helicopter song. Thanks [][][][][][][][][][] From: Fred_M_Hamilton@cup.portal.com To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: Song Titles Date: Sun, 5 Jun 94 10:19:59 PDT Mike Brown asks: >What is the name of the song with birds head in the lyric? I've seen it >refered to as Birdshead, Autumn Is Your Last Chance, and Withered And Died. The only official recorded version I know of calls it "Birdshead". "Withered and Died" is a Richard (& Linda) Thompson song. >And what is the name of the song with helicopter in the lyrics? I've seen >it called Helicopter song. You got me on this; I'm not sure I've heard the song you're referring to. -Fred [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 5 Jun 1994 23:36:22 -0700 From: "Partridge John" Subject: Discography To: "fegmaniax" It's done. I have created a monster Excel spreadsheet containing every Hitchcock song I had reasonably solid proof of existing. Its size (250K) makes it a bit cumbersome to mail around so I am soliciting suggestions on how to make it available. Here are some issues to consider: 1. What server is the best place for it to hang out on 2. What format is best - comma-separated-value, tab-delimited, etc. 3. Who should keep it up to date as new stuff comes out 4. How will corrections be made I spent a *long* time on this thing and volunteer for #3 and #4. However, I would love some assistance on making sure it is as complete and correct as possible. Each row in the spreadsheet has the following fields: Song, Side/Sequence, Duration, Version, Album, Year, Label, ID, Medium, Type, Comments, Copies, and Artist. "Side/Sequence" means which side it's on and which track. "Version" is for handling the dozen different versions of "When I Was A Kid" for example. "Album" is the name of the album, "Year" is the year it came out, "Label" is the name of the record company, "ID" is the record company catalog number, "Medium" is vinyl, CD, cassette, etc., "Type" is compilation/bootleg/promo., and "Copies" is how many copies I have of it. For example: Human Music, a-4, 1:34, 3, The Day They Ate Brick, 1986, Polarad, POL 121 045, 12" blue vinyl, Bootleg, The Legendary Radar Sessions, 1, The Soft Boys I especially need help in verifying the information on stuff I don't own and on checking the different versions of the same song. For example, "Heaven" has come out lots of times but I don't know which version is on which release. Maybe divvying the whole thing up amongst volunteers is the way to go. One last issue. Has anyone got a good suggestion for a proper database tool? I have implemented what is effectively a flat database and am suffering the attendant redundancy of information. For example, "Eye" came out on Twin/Tone and Glass Fish and on CD and on vinyl. My spreadsheet has, therefore, *four* full entries for each song. This sucks. John Partridge P.S. Someone asked about what song has "helicopter" in it. My lyrics database turns up only "Love Poisoning". Hope that helps. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 08:53:54 BST From: smeats@lincoln.gpsemi.com (Sad Git on the Internet) To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re : Dark Globe cover by REM The REM cover of Dark Globe can be found on the 12 inch of Orange Crush. I can look up the catalogue number if anyone's that bothered. Stipe`s rendition of the ltrics is a bit suspect eg. "pussy willow that smiled on my sleeve" doesn't sound right to me. sm [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 09:12 BST From: andyh@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Andy Holyer) To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu, partridge_john@gsb.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Discography > > It's done. I have created a monster Excel spreadsheet containing every > Hitchcock song I had reasonably solid proof of existing. Its size (250K) > makes it a bit cumbersome to mail around so I am soliciting suggestions on > how to make it available. Here are some issues to consider: > > 1. What server is the best place for it to hang out on > 2. What format is best - comma-separated-value, tab-delimited, etc. > 3. Who should keep it up to date as new stuff comes out > 4. How will corrections be made > I think that it's now safe to reveal that within the next 4-6 weeks I will be taking up my position as Managing Director od Pavilion Internet Ltd, the UK's first local public access provider. Since I own the bloody machine I hereby nominate pavilion as the site of the official fegmaniax FTP/WWW server. At least for east of the Atlantic. Does this sound reasonable? It'll realistically be early August before I have time to mount up the Robyn page. However it should be coming. With Robyn's connections with Lewes, I'm hopeful we might get him to come in and do a live IRC interview for us as well... Oh, and we plan to give Sensible a free account, of course. In due course I'll be starting up the generic "Jangly" list to cover Robyn/Cleaners/Dentists/Mood Six/Teardrops/TV Personalities/etc. as well. In fact, I might even put it through a cfv to make it a real newsgroup. Luv peace and bananas, -&. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 06 Jun 94 15:19:21 EDT From: ST1D000 To: Subject: Helicopters When in doubt as to where a stray lyric comes from, it's probably "What Can I Say To You?" off Globe of Frogs - there's enough crammed into that song to start a new dictionary. One question: To whom does the "Loser" song on _Invisible Hitchcock_ refer? My guess is Paul McCartney, but some knowledgeable person might be the wiser... any guesses, corrections? Cliff Richard? Prince Charles? John Major? Enlighten me. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 16:24:56 -0500 (EST) From: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Subject: The Loser song - aka "Trash" To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu I always thought it was a song about groupies, but hey, John Major sounds appropriate - he is such an embarrassment. My political 2 cents -- Vashty. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:43:25 -0300 (EDT) From: Bayard Catron Reply-To: Bayard Catron Subject: Robyn's 2p on covers To: pleasure of the aching void Here's what Robyn had to say on the subject of others covering his songs, in a 1992 edition of the BOB: Birds in Perspex Bryan Ferry, Streisand, Nina Simone, Alison Moyet "All my songs" The Indigo Girls My Wife and My Dead Wife Elvis Costello Airscape The Byrds or someone Arms of Love Roger McGuinn I Often Dream of Trains Paul Simon, Stevie Nicks He stated that he'd enjoy hearing songs like "The Man with the Lightbulb Head" done by women who sound like they've been playing together for a long time (re. the Indigo Girls). Sorry for the belated nature of this post, but I got knocked off the net 8 days ago and only now accidentally continued this message. No more covers talk from me. Yours in Robyn, Bayard (Peter Murphy's "Cuts you Up") (sorry) ;) [][][][][][][][][][] Date: 6 Jun 1994 15:12:18 -0700 From: "Partridge John" Subject: RE: The Loser song - aka "Trash" To: "fegmaniax" I always thought it was about you and me - his fans, along with "Tell Me About Your Drugs". I was at one of his shows and a fan screamed for him to play it. Robyn grinned carefully, looked away from the idiot, and mumbled, "Yeah, now we're getting somewhere." He didn't play it, thankfully. - JP [][][][][][][][][][] From: mad5c@server.cs.virginia.edu Subject: Re: The Loser song - aka "Trash" To: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 18:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Cc: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu And nevermind that Major became PM long after the song was written. I thought the target was possibly male. Why would a woman want to be Brian Jones? Mike. Says VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca: >> >> I always thought it was a song about groupies, but hey, John Major sounds >> appropriate - he is such an embarrassment. My political 2 cents -- Vashty. >> -- Mike DeLong - UVa Department of Computer Science - delong@virginia.edu. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 16:09:20 -0700 From: Andy Ruppenstein To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: The Loser song - aka "Trash" I rather thought it referred either to a particular rock journalist or just rock journalists in general. Seems to me the scorn is directed at the journalists who hang around rock stars in efforts to be cool. Or maybe just at anyone who does that. As "Trash" is one of those songs I've heard so many boot versions of that I no longer remember whether the lyrics I'm remembering are from those or the legitimate version, I'll just throw this out in support.... So you've got a job at NBC well, honey, better you than me [mumble mumble] just might be they've got special department there just for losers... I don't really get the idea Robyn is directing the song at fans, per se. I can't pretend I really know what Robyn's feelings are about having fans or fandom in general, but based on things Robyn has said in interviews it seems likely that Robyn has also experienced fandom from the other side of the fence as well. (Opening the door to the interpretation that the song may also be a dig at himself, perhaps in the same manner as "Queen Elvis" (may be)). Andy / ruppen@qal.berkeley.edu [][][][][][][][][][] From: RAdams7@aol.com To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Tue, 07 Jun 94 01:47:47 EDT Subject: Re: The Loser song - aka "Trash" The specific lyric which pins everything down in one of the live versions of "Trash" is the line, "So you've got a job at NME." (Not NBC!) The NME is, of course, New Musical Express, one of the UK's two top pop music rags, the other being Melody Maker. With the inclusion of that lyric it seems to me pretty obvious that the story is about hind-tit sucking music journalists who get their pictures taken with Charlie Watts, which could actually stand for _any_ not-quite-as-famous music personalities. And we all know that music journalists really secretly wish they could be rock stars like Brian Jones, right? There was a posting a couple back -- I can't go find it now -- with an amusing story about a fan requesting "Trash" at a show. Reminded me of when I saw Robyn on the acoustic tour for EYE, and I convinced a friend to yell for "I Like Bananas (Because They Have No Bones)". Robyn just stopped dead, slapped his hand against the body of his guitar, and said, "I'm very happy for you." [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:48:23 -0500 To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu From: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Gene Hopstetter) Subject: Re: The Loser song - aka "Trash" Wow, cool thread. I've wondered about this for years. Personally, I long thought the song was about an ex-bandmate of Robyn's. I initially thought it was about Kimberly Rew, b/c I had been under the impression that Rew's leaving the Soft Boys was not amicable, and that there was much tension between Robyn and him, i.e., Robyn thought Rew to be a prima donna rawk star wannabe who played too loud, etc. Is this really true, though? It seems the two are still good friends, especially considering they played together at the Soft Boys reunion shows. Just my $.02. "Last time we were at the Hope, I saw you hustling for a piece of dope... God, you're embarassing..." =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ Gene Hopstetter, Jr. + gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu Writer/Layout/WWW Guy + Tulane Computing Services =+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+ "Give me some more terminology!" -- Slovenly [][][][][][][][][][] From: seven@cs.utwente.nl (Susan Even) Subject: Re: trash To: gene@mailhost.tcs.tulane.edu (Gene Hopstetter) Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 17:14:31 BST Cc: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu (pleasure of the aching void) > Personally, I long thought the song was about an ex-bandmate of Robyn's. I > initially thought it was about Kimberly Rew, b/c I had been under the > impression that Rew's leaving the Soft Boys was not amicable, and that > They seemed to be getting on quite well on stage in Cambridge in January. It was a lot of fun watching Kimberley make goofy faces at Robyn all the times they'd try to synchronize. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 11:32:14 -0500 (EST) From: VHAWKINS@oise.on.ca Subject: Trash - a followup to Mike To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu A friendly response to Mike; My reference to John Major was a feeble attempt at humor, I imagine the subject of the song really is about fawning music journalists. As for why a woman would want to be Brian Jones ... his girlfriends (Anita Pallenberg etc.) and his female fans certainly tried to physically resemble him as much as possible, so it is feasible. [][][][][][][][][][] Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:20:58 -0300 (EDT) From: Bayard Catron Subject: A Soft Boy Some More To: Susan Even Cc: Gene Hopstetter , pleasure of the aching void On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Susan Even wrote: > > Personally, I long thought the song was about an ex-bandmate of Robyn's. I > > initially thought it was about Kimberly Rew, b/c I had been under the > > impression that Rew's leaving the Soft Boys was not amicable, and that > > They seemed to be getting on quite well on stage in Cambridge in January. > It was a lot of fun watching Kimberley make goofy faces at Robyn all > the times they'd try to synchronize. Did they play only Soft Boys material? Being stuck in the States, I was not fortunate enought to see any of these shows. How were they, performancewise, etc? Also, I heard Kimberley was not at all the shows, that someone was filling in for him for a large part of the tour. This made be think there was still bad blood between him and RH. Sure do hope they come to DC soon... Bayard [][][][][][][][][][] From: RAdams7@aol.com To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Tue, 07 Jun 94 23:00:15 EDT Subject: Re: "Down the Hope" in "Loser" Gene posts: "Last time we were at the Hope, I saw you hustling for a piece of dope... God, you're embarassing..." Hm, could be Kimberley, if that were the line and by "we" Robyn means the Soft Boys. But the line actually is "Last time _you_ were down the Hope," which makes it sound like it was just a journalist Robyn saw making a score. [][][][][][][][][][] From: mccalls@netcom.com (Fred McCall) Subject: Trash To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 21:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Cc: mccalls@netcom.com (Fred McCall) > My reference to John Major was a feeble attempt at humor, I imagine the > subject of the song really is about fawning music journalists. If there is one thing I know about Robyn's life, it is the amount of fawning sycophants that record companies employ to hover around him at all times when on tour. (Hell, one might be tempted to label Trudi and myself as such, but at least we were sincere in our hero-worship :) I have no doubt that "Trash" is about journalists and promoters and company reps and publicists and etc, etc, etc. Whoever said it was Paul McCartney, shame on you! ;) Sandra [][][][][][][][] End of this Fegmaniax Digest. Archives can be found on fegmania.wustl.edu:/fegmaniax and ftp.uwp.edu:/pub/music/lists/fegmaniax. For administrative questions, subscription requests, and all that boring crud, send mail to fegmaniax-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu. Slipping you the midnight fish...