From THOMASSON@CHEERS.gs.com Mon May 17 10:20:33 1993 Received: from camb.com by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 10:20:33 -0400 Received: from gs.com by camb.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #4085) id <01GYA196X9XC94E70M@camb.com>; Mon, 17 May 1993 10:19:08 EDT Received: from DECnet-Mail (THOMASSON@CHEERS) by gs.com (PMDF #2348 ) id <01GYA0GMFONK90MTMU@gs.com>; Mon, 17 May 1993 10:17:52 EDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 10:17:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Where are the Prawns? Subject: can of bees, RH videos etc. To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <01GYA0GMFONM90MTMU@gs.com> Organization: Goldman, Sachs & Co. X-Vms-To: @FEGMANIAX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT a friend lent me the rykodisk "can of bees" - i'd forgotten how unsound some of the songs were. for example, in "sandra's having her brain out", "you don't really need a brain if you're a girl. it's like tonsils, they're more trouble than they're worth." and "sandra's having her brain out, and she feels all right, like a slot-machine" and in "ugly nora", "ugly nora! hideous nora! let me see your jellies roll" maybe these are just adolescent ramblings, and i should make allowances for the fact that in the late seventies people hadn't their consciences raised to the same degree, etc. do they still do these songs live? on a lighter note, are there any RH video compilations out? i seem to remember seeing somebody getting covered in paint to the sound of "listening to the higsons" but maybe it was reality. josh@babylon From andyh@cogs.susx.ac.uk Mon May 17 10:49:09 1993 Received: from csri.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 10:49:09 -0400 Received: by csri.crn.cogs.susx.ac.uk (Smail3.1.28.1 #4) id m0nv6Tl-0000E7C; Mon, 17 May 93 15:47 BST Message-Id: Date: Mon, 17 May 93 15:47 BST From: andyh@cogs.susx.ac.uk (Andy Holyer) To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: can of bees, RH videos etc. > > a friend lent me the rykodisk "can of bees" - i'd forgotten how unsound some of > the songs were. > > for example, in "sandra's having her brain out", > "you don't really need a brain if you're a girl. it's like tonsils, they're > more trouble than they're worth." > and > "sandra's having her brain out, and she feels all right, like a slot-machine" > I was always under the impression that this song was supposed to be ironical. - "Society doesn't think women are supposed to have brains". What do other people think? > and in "ugly nora", > "ugly nora! hideous nora! let me see your jellies roll" > Similarly. Besides, surely all RH is saying there is "one can still be considered sexual without being a natural size 10"? > maybe these are just adolescent ramblings, and i should make allowances for the > fact that in the late seventies people hadn't their consciences raised to the > same degree, etc. > But withing the Soft Boys milieu, a lot of the attitudes which are now described as PC were quiter strongly supported - although the attitude of outrage around at the time teneded to disguise this. Oh shit, I should stop this, before it turns into a Moder Review piece on "Contextuality and Saliva: The Damned and the New Conciousness" :-) -&. > on a lighter note, are there any RH video compilations out? i seem to remember > seeing somebody getting covered in paint to the sound of "listening to the > higsons" but maybe it was reality. Well there's the "Hen" video which was on Jettisoundz. Don't remember seeing it for quite a while..... From keb@u.washington.edu Mon May 17 11:24:35 1993 Received: from carson.u.washington.edu by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 11:24:35 -0400 Received: by carson.u.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.22 ) id AA21856; Mon, 17 May 93 08:24:33 -0700 Sender: keb@carson.u.washington.edu Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 08:22:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Lena Bennett" Subject: Robyn set lists To: society of dark birds In-Reply-To: <9305150600.AA10309@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=us-ascii So how many of you got to hear the unfinished song "Rabbit Train?" He did it at the first Seattle show. Mainly because the opening dude told the audience to insist on it. It was pretty entertaining, and RH had us singing along to it. Then he said we could write him with our opinions as to whether he should write more lyrics or just keep it as it is, and then he said he would ignore everything we said anyway :) "Oh, the Rabbit Train I ride, further on, further on...." Lena keb@u.washington.edu "I'm not above cliches tonight...." -- Scott Miller From DARAMSEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Mon May 17 11:40:56 1993 Received: from vaxsar.vassar.edu by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 11:40:56 -0400 Received: from vassar.edu by vassar.edu (PMDF #2752 ) id <01GYA46H9J0M00A45D@vassar.edu>; Mon, 17 May 1993 11:42:58 EDT Date: 17 May 1993 11:42:58 -0400 (EDT) From: DARAMSEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Subject: Robyn videotape To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <01GYA46H9J0O00A45D@vassar.edu> X-Envelope-To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT There are two Robyn Hitchcock "legal" videotapes that I know of. THe first is the "Gotta Let This Hen Out!" video, which features clips from the Marquee show along with videos of "Listening to the Higsons", "Surgery", "Only the Stones Remain" and "Heaven". Of particular interest is several disjointed clips interspersed thru-out the tape of Robyn singing bits of "the Ghost Ship" with intriguingly different lyrics from the version on the "Balloon Man" single. I'm not sure how easy it is to find this tape. I know of a few stores in Boston which have carried it at various points: 'Second Coming Records' and 'In Your Ear Records' in harvard Square jump to mind. Another RH videotape is "Brenda of the Lightbulb EYes", a tape released by A&M a couple years back. It is a video compilation, featuring videos of "One Long Pair of Eyes", "Madonna of the Wasps", "Balloon Man", "The Man With the Lightbulb Head", "I Often Dream of Trains" and maybe one other which I can't remember right now. daveR. From rsutton@microsoft.com Mon May 17 13:39:21 1993 Received: from netmail.microsoft.com by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 13:39:21 -0400 Received: by netmail.microsoft.com (5.65/25-eef) id AA17664; Mon, 17 May 93 10:37:38 -0700 Message-Id: <9305171737.AA17664@netmail.microsoft.com> X-Msmail-Message-Id: 45B4234F X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 45B4234F From: Robert Sutton To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Date: Mon, 17 May 93 10:37:37 PDT Subject: New Captain Sensible... I recall a previous thread regarding RH, Captain Sensible, and the Brotherhood of Lizards.... Just in... New Single from Captain Sensible. Just arrived from "Humbug!" Records. Forgot the song titles, but it sounds pretty good. No word on when the new album is released (anyone?) FYI, Rob From Jemiah.Levon.Jefferson@altosax.reed.edu Mon May 17 17:29:16 1993 Received: from dharma.reed.edu by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 17:29:16 -0400 Received: from 134.10.2.28 by dharma.reed.edu (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.21) id ; Mon, 17 May 93 14:29 PDT Message-Id: <12891@altosax.reed.edu> Date: 17 May 93 14:20:34 PDT From: Jemiah.Levon.Jefferson@altosax.reed.edu (Jemiah Levon Jefferson) Subject: the long, dark teatime... To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu (society of dark birds) Finally made it through all the albums. I'm sure I'm geting on the list way late, but what do other people make of "respect"? I listened to it yesterday on a sunny dreamy sunday afternoon and I nearly cried through almost every song. It's weird to see what actual deth does to someone so deeply morbid as Robyn was in the first place. It's not even the lyrics -- it's the music. You just can't write harmonies like in "railway shoes" until you lose something, I guess. And it sounds less like bloody LENNON than his earlier solo efforts... It doesn't bug me (much), it's just way pronounced on things like "Blues in A" (which I really love, BTW). oh well (somebody write something) eeyore From ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu Mon May 17 17:32:25 1993 Received: from nettlerash.Berkeley.EDU by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 15:49:06 -0400 Received: from [128.32.163.101] by nettlerash.berkeley.edu (5.67.1/1.34.6) id AA28042; Mon, 17 May 93 12:00:50 -0700 Received: from davis.qal.berkeley.edu.QAL by snowy.qal.berkeley.edu (4.1/SMI-3.0DEV3.10) id AA24328; Mon, 17 May 93 11:56:18 PDT Date: Mon, 17 May 93 11:56:18 PDT From: ruppen@QAL.Berkeley.Edu (Andy Ruppenstein) Message-Id: <9305171856.AA24328@snowy.qal.berkeley.edu> To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: misc josh@babylon and &y muse about some of RH's attitudes towards women from Can of Bees days. Can only add that when I saw him do Wey wup up a hole a couple of years ago he kind of apologized in advance for lyrics and said he was a lot younger when he wrote that stuff. daveR writes: >Another RH videotape is "Brenda of the Lightbulb EYes", a tape released >by A&M a couple years back. It is a video compilation, featuring videos of >"One Long Pair of Eyes", "Madonna of the Wasps", "Balloon Man", "The Man With >the Lightbulb Head", "I Often Dream of Trains" and maybe one other which I >can't remember right now. Raymond Chandler Evening. Nice video. Atmospheric. Andy Metcalfe as a corpse. Hat. Shot for less than 200 #, according to Robyn. I've yet to buy "Gotta Let this Hen Out", but it still pops up occasionally, invariably when I'm low on funds. I've seen it in at least 3 places over the last 2 years, ~$25-35. (In contrast to Brenda, which is still widely available < $15). Andy From 7236@ef.gc.maricopa.edu Mon May 17 17:42:27 1993 Received: from gcef.gc.maricopa.edu by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 17:42:27 -0400 Received: by gcef.gc.maricopa.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11168; Mon, 17 May 93 14:42:23 -0700 Message-Id: <9305172142.AA11168@gcef.gc.maricopa.edu> Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 14:42:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Christopher Mark Donnell" <7236@ef.gc.maricopa.edu> To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: BotLE/GLtHO I see 'Brenda Of The Lightbulb Eyes' used quite a bit (that's where I got mine). I still don't have 'Gotta Let This Hen Out!' - It keeps going up in price (I see it a lot these days for $45.00) - If I ever see it used.. maybe.. _ _ (w) Chris 'The Man With The Lightbulb Head' Donnell * (602)866-0527 (w) _V_ 7236@ef.gc.maricopa.edu * 234 E. Waltann Ln./Phoenix, AZ/85022-3038 _V_ From @mitvma.mit.edu,@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU:ROBIN@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Mon May 17 18:32:29 1993 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 16:24:59 -0400 Message-Id: <9305172024.AA28241@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4880; Mon, 17 May 93 16:25:05 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2387; Mon, 17 May 93 16:25:04 EDT Received: from UGA (NJE origin ROBIN@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5842; Mon, 17 May 1993 16:25:11 -0400 Date: Mon, 17 May 93 16:09:03 EDT From: Robin Colleen Moore To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Since I've just joined the list, I thought it would be polite to introduce myself to all of you. I live in scenic Athens, GA, where Robyn has been known to hang out on occasion, and work in the Psychology Dept. of the University of Georgia (which is how I have computer access) to pay the rent. In my "free" time, however, I'm a struggling photographer taking pictures at concerts around town, and have this nasty little habit of bringing fresh baked goods to shows for starving musicians...it's an amazingly effective way of getting on people's good sides, I find :-). So far this year, I've seen Robyn play twice here at the 40 Watt (his home away from home)--once in January as a solo acoustic performer (I think I almost prefer him that way--no insult intended to Andy & Morris), and once last month with the Egyptians. (And yes, I have taken pictures of him in the past, although I'm not sure how good some of them are, so don't get your hopes up *too* much... ;-) ) Enough of the introduction--on with the Question of the Day: Does anyone out there know when the current tour will be ending? I couldn't afford to buy a t-shirt, so I don't have that for reference, and I don't remember the last dates on them anyway, so....I'm wondering when the tour ends so I'll have some idea of when some of the crew will be heading back to the UK (it's a long story so please don't ask...nothing improper, though, I can assure you!). Any help will be most gratefully received! Robin the mad photographer P.S.: A couple of facts some people might find interesting: 1. April 17, the date of Robyn's last show here, was also his daughter Maisie's 17th birthday (he mentioned this in an interview on WUOG, 90.5 FM here in Athens). 2. Apparently Robyn's changed managers recently--it seems he's now being represented by Peter Jenner & Sincere Management, who are the same people who look after Billy Bragg. Don't worry, though--I've had the pleasure of meeting Peter & a couple of the others from Sincere, and they're all wonderful people, so Robyn's in very good hands! :-) From THOMASSON@CHEERS.gs.com Mon May 17 19:04:09 1993 Received: from camb.com by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 19:04:09 -0400 Received: from gs.com by camb.com (PMDF V4.2-11 #4085) id <01GYAJKBOK4W94EH80@camb.com>; Mon, 17 May 1993 19:03:25 EDT Received: from DECnet-Mail (THOMASSON@CHEERS) by gs.com (PMDF #2348 ) id <01GYAJAMLRU891VS3I@gs.com>; Mon, 17 May 1993 19:02:17 EDT Date: Mon, 17 May 1993 19:02:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Where are the Prawns? Subject: Re: sandra's having her brain out To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <01GYAJAMLRUA91VS3I@gs.com> Organization: Goldman, Sachs & Co. X-Vms-To: @FEGMANIAX Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT gosh, what a tolerant bunch you all are! the concensus seems to be robyn is off the hook because of satyrical intent. just to wind this one up, i'm having a problem with the lyrics "now she waddles about in a crimpolene ????? she works in a shop in the south now she waddles about in a crimpolene ????? and tickets grow out of her mouth. and also at the end, "bloaty's having his ????" sounds like "stone" to me but that doesn't make any sense. reply off-list if you think no one else would be interested josh@babylon From @mitvma.mit.edu:REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET Mon May 17 20:10:10 1993 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Mon, 17 May 93 20:10:10 -0400 Message-Id: <9305180010.AA00771@wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu> Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6529; Mon, 17 May 93 20:10:17 EDT Received: from ERENJ.BITNET by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 7355; Mon, 17 May 93 20:10:16 EDT Received: from ERENJ (REWOICC) by ERENJ.BITNET (Mailer R2.05) with BSMTP id 5567; Mon, 17 May 93 20:09:53 EDT Date: Mon, 17 May 93 20:02:53 EDT From: woj Subject: Re: sandra's having her brain out To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 17 May 1993 19:02:17 -0400 (EDT) honestly, i dunno if robyn was ever on or off the hook. on one hand, he could be interpreted as having less than an appreciative attitude towards women. on the other, they're satirical. robyn's apologized before playing various older tunes from the old days saying that "i was much more sexist in those days," and yet, he writes "wafflehead" for the latest effort. i'm not going to condemn him for things he wrote fifteen years ago. i'm also a bit surprised that a&m went ahead and released "wafflehead" consi- dering this age of guarded speech and whatnot. are we to applaud a label for ignoring such social pressures or are we to condemn an artist for seemingly being (gasp) sexist. is wafflehead sexist, for that matter? +woj From DARAMSEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Tue May 18 00:28:41 1993 Received: from vaxsar.vassar.edu by wookumz.gnu.ai.mit.edu (5.65/4.0) with SMTP id ; Tue, 18 May 93 00:28:41 -0400 Received: from vassar.edu by vassar.edu (PMDF #2752 ) id <01GYAUT8Y28G008JP7@vassar.edu>; Tue, 18 May 1993 00:30:43 EDT Date: 18 May 1993 00:30:43 -0400 (EDT) From: DARAMSEY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Subject: Fare thee well. To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu Message-Id: <01GYAUT8YBVM008JP7@vassar.edu> X-Envelope-To: fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu X-Vms-To: IN%"fegmaniax@gnu.ai.mit.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Much to my deep dismay, I must unsubscribe from Fegmaniax. I am leaving college for the summer tomorrow morning, and I will no longer be able to access Internet. I just wanted to drop a line and say that it's been really groovy to be able to talk to all you other mysterious ones in the Society of Dark Birds, and a big thank you goes out to those who I've been able to trade tapes with. Anyways. It is getting late, and my eyes and limbs are weary. Fare thee well. There's a body on the railing, but I can't remember why...(ah, shit, I've forgotten the verse.) -so it goes-. peace, peace thru anarchy, daveR.