From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V8 #10 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Tuesday, March 1 2005 Volume 08 : Number 010 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: speaking of taping [Will Foy ] RE: speaking of taping ["Benjamin C. Galizio" ] Re: The School of EFO [Laura Hudson ] Re: The School of EFO [Pamela Smith Lenox ] Re: The School of EFO [Jason Burkins ] Re: The School of EFO [Laura Hudson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 16:57:47 -0500 From: Will Foy Subject: Re: speaking of taping > >Is it not kosher to upload other people's shows? I've never had the As a curator at the LMA at archive.org, I can actually speak to that... Generally, it's a good idea to have the taper's permission. Why? Because in 2004, after significant debate, the folks at Archive.org decided to allow lossy audio formats[mp3, ogg, streams] to be stored ALONGSIDE the lossless ones[shn and flac]. Because of some tapers who would refuse to allow concerts they recorded to be uploaded to the Live Music Archive [ LMA ], unless there was an "opt-out" option for these lossies. Essentially, some tapers don't want their shows to ever exist in lossy form. Anyway, that's one of the reasons it's a good idea to at least have the taper's input as to whether you should upload. Me, I'm all for it. period. so long as the lossless copies are the primary source and don't go anywhere, i'm personally fine with it. Those of you who've downloaded some of my recordings will see my standard disclaimer of it's fine to have lossy formats for things like mp3 players, streams and such, but a lossy source should not be circulated... IE, if you're making a copy to trade with someone, PLEASE use the lossless source. FOr those of you who aren't terribly technosavvy, there are plugins for Nero [Windows CD Burning application] for both SHN and for FLAC formats, which will do the conversions for you, int he background while you burn cd's. Yes, there are plugins for MP3's, but the quality will significantly suffer... I digress. Anyway, upload away, and just make sure the taper knows aboutt he upload, in most cases, EFO tapers don't care about lossies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:56:35 -0500 From: "Benjamin C. Galizio" Subject: RE: speaking of taping Well said, Will. I've enjoyed your EFO recordings, and thank you for your contributions and help as a curator at the LMA! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-edheads@efohio.com [mailto:owner-edheads@efohio.com] On Behalf Of Will Foy Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:58 PM To: edheads@efohio.com Subject: Re: speaking of taping > >Is it not kosher to upload other people's shows? I've never had the As a curator at the LMA at archive.org, I can actually speak to that... Generally, it's a good idea to have the taper's permission. Why? Because in 2004, after significant debate, the folks at Archive.org decided to allow lossy audio formats[mp3, ogg, streams] to be stored ALONGSIDE the lossless ones[shn and flac]. Because of some tapers who would refuse to allow concerts they recorded to be uploaded to the Live Music Archive [ LMA ], unless there was an "opt-out" option for these lossies. Essentially, some tapers don't want their shows to ever exist in lossy form. Anyway, that's one of the reasons it's a good idea to at least have the taper's input as to whether you should upload. Me, I'm all for it. period. so long as the lossless copies are the primary source and don't go anywhere, i'm personally fine with it. Those of you who've downloaded some of my recordings will see my standard disclaimer of it's fine to have lossy formats for things like mp3 players, streams and such, but a lossy source should not be circulated... IE, if you're making a copy to trade with someone, PLEASE use the lossless source. FOr those of you who aren't terribly technosavvy, there are plugins for Nero [Windows CD Burning application] for both SHN and for FLAC formats, which will do the conversions for you, int he background while you burn cd's. Yes, there are plugins for MP3's, but the quality will significantly suffer... I digress. Anyway, upload away, and just make sure the taper knows aboutt he upload, in most cases, EFO tapers don't care about lossies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 18:27:46 -0500 From: Laura Hudson Subject: Re: The School of EFO I feel so heartened that there are teachers out there willing to use music (especially smart, fun, funny music) in their classrooms. Maybe there's hope for us humans yet. While I'm well out of school and not a teacher, I find that I learn buckets with each new EFO album. I'm always checking out the dictionary or encyclopedia to figure a reference out. I just learned about Margot Fonteyn after becoming obsessed with Big Noise. One I'm still trying to figure out is Tom Burleigh - I can't find anything on him. Anybody out there know if he really got shot at Harper's Ferry? Laura > From: Andrea Biklen > Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:18:25 -0600 > To: edheads@efohio.com > Subject: The School of EFO > > Brought some friends to the show in Ames, Iowa last Friday. One of these > friends teaches an Intro to Sociology class and is now using the lyrics for > Fly and Independence, Indiana to generate a discussion on symbols and how > our socialization may alter the interpretation of these symbols. > > I started thinking about the wide range of academic disciplines covered by > EFO: literature, history, physics, astronomy, political science, religion, > psychology, animal husbandry. . .and many more. > > I teach English and have considered using Candido when covering works by TC > Boyle (who wrote the book which inspired the song). Are there any other > teachers, or students, who have used EFO in their classes? Or if you are > out of school and had to go back (heaven forbid!) how might you sneak EFO > into a paper? > > Just food for discussion. > > Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:24:54 -0500 From: Pamela Smith Lenox Subject: Re: The School of EFO On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 06:27 PM, Laura Hudson wrote: > One I'm still trying to figure out > is Tom Burleigh - I can't find anything on him. Anybody out there know > if he > really got shot at Harper's Ferry? Here's the best I can do on google. Guess it really wasn't "the drink" :-) http://www.wvculture.org/history/jnobrown.html Armory workers discovered Brown's men in control of the building on Monday morning, October 17. Local militia companies surrounded the armory, cutting off Brown's escape routes. Shortly after seven o'clock, a Harpers Ferry townsperson, Thomas Boerly, was shot and killed near the corner of High and Shenandoah streets. During the day, two other citizens were killed, George W. Turner and Harpers Ferry Mayor Fontaine Beckham. When Brown realized he had no way to escape, he selected nine prisoners and moved them to the armory's small fire engine house, which later became known as John Brown's Fort. http://flag.blackened.net/daver/1sthand/harpers_ferry.html A little before 7 o'clock a.m., Mr. Alexander Kelly approached the corner of High and Shenandoah streets, armed with a shotgun, for the purpose of discharging it at the invaders. No sooner did he turn the corner than two shots were fired at him and a bullet was sent through his hat. Immediately afterwards, Mr. Thomas Boerly approached the same corner with the same purpose. He was a man of Herculean strength and great personal courage. He discharged his gun at some of the enemy who were standing at the arsenal gate, when a shot was fired at him by one of the party who was crouching behind the arsenal fence. The bullet penetrated his groin, inflicting a ghastly wound, of which he died in a few hours. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:03:03 -0500 From: Jason Burkins Subject: Re: The School of EFO Interesting Stuff... and here I thought the song was completely made up :) On a related topic, we can go to the G. Barrington show. I will see about tickets tomorrow. Jason On Mar 1, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Pamela Smith Lenox wrote: > On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 06:27 PM, Laura Hudson wrote: >> One I'm still trying to figure out >> is Tom Burleigh - I can't find anything on him. Anybody out there >> know if he >> really got shot at Harper's Ferry? > > Here's the best I can do on google. Guess it really wasn't "the > drink" :-) > > > http://www.wvculture.org/history/jnobrown.html > > Armory workers discovered Brown's men in control of the building on > Monday morning, October 17. Local militia companies surrounded the > armory, cutting off Brown's escape routes. Shortly after seven > o'clock, a Harpers Ferry townsperson, Thomas Boerly, was shot and > killed near the corner of High and Shenandoah streets. During the day, > two other citizens were killed, George W. Turner and Harpers Ferry > Mayor Fontaine Beckham. When Brown realized he had no way to escape, > he selected nine prisoners and moved them to the armory's small fire > engine house, which later became known as John Brown's Fort. > > > http://flag.blackened.net/daver/1sthand/harpers_ferry.html > > A little before 7 o'clock a.m., Mr. Alexander Kelly approached the > corner of High and Shenandoah streets, armed with a shotgun, for the > purpose of discharging it at the invaders. No sooner did he turn the > corner than two shots were fired at him and a bullet was sent through > his hat. Immediately afterwards, Mr. Thomas Boerly approached the same > corner with the same purpose. He was a man of Herculean strength and > great personal courage. He discharged his gun at some of the enemy who > were standing at the arsenal gate, when a shot was fired at him by one > of the party who was crouching behind the arsenal fence. The bullet > penetrated his groin, inflicting a ghastly wound, of which he died in > a few hours. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 21:20:48 -0500 From: Laura Hudson Subject: Re: The School of EFO No WONDER I never found anything by Googling "Burleigh". Very cool - Thanks, Pamela! I guess ghastly groin wounds don't make for such good lyrics... Jason - See you at Helsinki. Maybe we can get them to do Tom Burleigh at the show. I've never actually heard it live. Laura > From: Jason Burkins > Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 20:03:03 -0500 > To: Pamela Smith Lenox > Cc: edheads@efohio.com > Subject: Re: The School of EFO > > Interesting Stuff... and here I thought the song was completely made up > :) > > On a related topic, we can go to the G. Barrington show. I will see > about tickets tomorrow. > > Jason > > On Mar 1, 2005, at 7:24 PM, Pamela Smith Lenox wrote: > >> On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 06:27 PM, Laura Hudson wrote: >>> One I'm still trying to figure out >>> is Tom Burleigh - I can't find anything on him. Anybody out there >>> know if he >>> really got shot at Harper's Ferry? >> >> Here's the best I can do on google. Guess it really wasn't "the >> drink" :-) >> >> >> http://www.wvculture.org/history/jnobrown.html >> >> Armory workers discovered Brown's men in control of the building on >> Monday morning, October 17. Local militia companies surrounded the >> armory, cutting off Brown's escape routes. Shortly after seven >> o'clock, a Harpers Ferry townsperson, Thomas Boerly, was shot and >> killed near the corner of High and Shenandoah streets. During the day, >> two other citizens were killed, George W. Turner and Harpers Ferry >> Mayor Fontaine Beckham. When Brown realized he had no way to escape, >> he selected nine prisoners and moved them to the armory's small fire >> engine house, which later became known as John Brown's Fort. >> >> >> http://flag.blackened.net/daver/1sthand/harpers_ferry.html >> >> A little before 7 o'clock a.m., Mr. Alexander Kelly approached the >> corner of High and Shenandoah streets, armed with a shotgun, for the >> purpose of discharging it at the invaders. No sooner did he turn the >> corner than two shots were fired at him and a bullet was sent through >> his hat. Immediately afterwards, Mr. Thomas Boerly approached the same >> corner with the same purpose. He was a man of Herculean strength and >> great personal courage. He discharged his gun at some of the enemy who >> were standing at the arsenal gate, when a shot was fired at him by one >> of the party who was crouching behind the arsenal fence. The bullet >> penetrated his groin, inflicting a ghastly wound, of which he died in >> a few hours. ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V8 #10 ****************************