From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V7 #54 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Thursday, March 25 2004 Volume 07 : Number 054 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Loud and Annoying People ["John Ryan" ] Re: Loud and Annoying People ["photomonk@earthlink.net" ] Re: Loud and Annoying People [Lonnie ] RE: Loud and Annoying People [R D ] Re: Loud and Annoying People ["erika-renee lanier" ] Re: Loud and Annoying People ["Jennifer Kirkby" ] Pre-show festivities for Sommerville Theatre Show on Sat 3/27 [David Fonz] Robbie shows [Kerry Frey ] Re: Robbie shows [Ellen Buckley ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 09:32:44 -0500 From: "John Ryan" Subject: Re: Loud and Annoying People Vance Gilbert's guide to hecklers at a show: Confront them head on, don't ignore them. Anytime sometime would call out "Freebird" at an EFO show, they would do the most embarassing thing back, honor the request. And a very campy rendition of it at that. Robbie would later say, "Aren't you glad you requested that song now?" At a Robbie solo show in NYC last month, there was this one table of people talking very loudly during one of Robbie's soft songs. After the song was finished, Robbie had one of his classic saopbox moments. To paraphrase what he said, "I don't normally mention this at shows because it's a personal thing, but some of you miay not know that I'm completely deaf in my right ear. Therefore, if you're going to talk during the show, you may sit on this (stage right) side of the room." _________________________________________________________________ Get reliable access on MSN 9 Dial-up. 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time offer) http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&pgmarket=en-us&ST=1/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:17:27 -0500 From: "photomonk@earthlink.net" Subject: Re: Loud and Annoying People sad to say, obnoxious concert goers are not exclusive to EFO. i've been going to indigo girls concerts since 1990 and it's a fairly significant problem there. it seems like some of the folks go simply to get drunk, talk loudly, and walk right on your feet during the middle of a song (usually a quiet one) to get MORE beer. people often stand and dance at the more uptempo stuff at IG shows, but then getting them to sit down for quiet songs is a nightmare. for those like lonnie who like to dance, i am curious: what would you say to someone sitting behind you who *cant* stand and dance? a wheelchair user, or someone with a hidden disability who cant stand for any length of time. is a little bit of obnoxiousness still applicable then? myself, i have a moderate hearing loss. people talking to each other around me at a show or the movies really *does* impair my ability to hear and enjoy what's going on. but getting people to understand that is a struggle. it seems to me, these days, that people are so consumed by their own desire for their own custom designed experience that there is no concept of how that impacts anyone else. in the end, it's about consideration. i dont care how much i paid for my ticket.. IMHO, if my behavior negatively impacts on someone else's ability to enjoy a show, it isnt worth the bad karma. if everyone else is up and dancing or the people around you arent blocked by that dancing, more power to you. just MHO amy p. (who wishes she lived closer to boston so that she could take in this weekend's EFO show) - -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 07:02:27 +1200 From: "Ken Stiffler" Subject: RE: Loud and Annoying People ellen wrote: >>I personally don't understand why no one dances in the pavilion of the Filene Center (people dance in the pavilions of all of the other amphitheaters I've been to) << At NGDB a couple! years ago, a few Dead Heads (Vassar Clements was playing with NGDB) down front got up and started dancing and one of the band members said something about Wolf Trap having a sit down policy inside the Filene Center so they would have to sit down or get thrown out or some such thing. Funny how time flies. . . and memory just flies away! :) Ken ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:08:14 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Lonnie Subject: Re: Loud and Annoying People Lonnie is a huge DC United fan, he goes to every game (where he absolutely NEVER sits down!) and he isn't bad at all, he just doesn't like boring, whiny people :) shameless plug: first home game @ RFK April 3rd, it's almost sold out :) To see me now that you're curious who to throw things at, the game is on ABC, you'll see a huge black banner at midfield with people jumping and screaming during the game, I'm in the front row in the space between the SCREAMING and the EAGLES on the banner, or just over the A in Eagles, depending on how it is hung :) EFO have done pre-game concerts and have sang the national anthem at DC United games, so it's all on-topic. For the record, I don't get up and dance in front of people in the pavillion unless it's ok with them (most people are perfectly cool with it for a song or two here and there), I go off to the side if there are fuddy-duddies behind me. At a bar, I may dance, it is a bar afterall :) And you won't have to ask me more than twice if you do it politely, if you do it rudely or snide-ly, well, I'm in too good of a mood today to go into that, as many of you seem to have no sense of humor :) Dancing is rude, but throwing chicken bones isn't - I like the way you think :-) (yes, I get the humor) So, were you Googling me to find out about me, or to go burn my house down? - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Sabourin Well, you also pay for the space behind your seat, so that would be me and my "sitting on our hands" friends behind you throwing popcorn and chicken bones at you after you've been politely asked three times to stop blocking our view, stepping on our blanket, and dancing through "Minnesota 1945" and "Abraham". After all, it's good for people to be exposed to a little obnoxiousness now and then. :-) Actually, all is generally forgiven, because (assuming my 2-minute Google search is correct), Lonnie is a DC United fan, so he can't be all bad. Paul. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:20:42 -0800 (PST) From: R D Subject: RE: Loud and Annoying People Just for the record, as a Wolf Trap employee for the past seven years (and Ody, I think, can back me up on this) I have never heard of such a policy and have been to literally hundreds of shows at the Filene Center, quite a few of which had people dancing in the pavilion. I think Wolf Trap actually has a "politeness" policy, where if there are two people in the entire Filene Center that are standing, and everyone else is sitting, the ushers would probably ask them to sit down or move to the lawn, but there is NOT a "sit-down" policy. - --- Ken Stiffler wrote: > ellen wrote: > >>I personally don't understand why no one dances in > the pavilion of the > Filene Center (people dance in the pavilions of all > of the other > amphitheaters I've been to) > << > > At NGDB a couple! years ago, a few Dead Heads > (Vassar Clements was playing > with NGDB) down front got up and started dancing and > one of the band members > said something about Wolf Trap having a sit down > policy inside the Filene > Center so they would have to sit down or get thrown > out or some such thing. > > Funny how time flies. . . and memory just flies > away! :) > > > Ken __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 14:51:57 -0500 From: "erika-renee lanier" Subject: Re: Loud and Annoying People I'm fairly short, so I have a hard enough time seeing past someone who's taller than 5'10" and is *sitting* in front of me. Dancing doesn't bother me so much, as long as the person sits down after the song they're groovin' to is over. Talking? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. I hate having to constantly turn around and ask someone to please be quiet because they're talking so loudly. I hate it even more when they give me the evil eye and continue talking. It means I waste the next song dreaming of all the evil karmic things that could happen to mean-loud-talkers, and if that next song happens to be a goodie, oh man, am I pissed! However, I wish more people would get up and dance to the good stuff. I'd be all about standing up and rockin' out to One Thousand Sarahs, as long as everyone else was getting into it too. - -Erika (who sits timidly in her seat so she doesn't piss off anyone around her, but who would much rather be dancing to fun, happy efo music) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:10:07 -0500 From: "Jennifer Kirkby" Subject: Re: Loud and Annoying People I have a perfectly good sense of humor. I just don't find you as hilarious as what you think you are. :) Of course it is ok to say whatever you like as long as a :) is put after the sentence...right? Lonnie wrote: And you won't have to ask me more than twice if you do it politely, if you do it rudely or snide-ly, well, I'm in too good of a mood today to go into that, as many of you seem to have no sense of humor :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 15:34:35 -0800 (PST) From: David Fonzi Subject: Pre-show festivities for Sommerville Theatre Show on Sat 3/27 Hi All, As a prelim for the Sommerville Theatre show this Saturday we have a group going out to Redbones at 5:00. We figured we hang out have a good dinner and then a few drinks __and no, we won't be drunken fools singing over the band ;-) __ So, if anyone is interested in joining us were planning to try to get seated downstairs. So far it's looking like nine of us, but we'd love to have more. I'll have an EFO shirt on of course so please feel free to come on over and chat. I may even have a special prize for the first two edheads who come on over. Get psyched for the show !! - - dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:54:21 -0800 From: Kerry Frey Subject: Robbie shows Two Robbie shows in DC at Jammin' Java May 14 & 15! http://www.jamminjava.com/events/ No dancing allowed. :) Kerry ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 21:20:51 -0500 From: Ellen Buckley Subject: Re: Robbie shows On Mar 24, 2004, at 8:54 PM, Kerry Frey wrote: > > No dancing allowed. :) except chair-dancing. those JJ chairs are mighty springy. peace, ellen ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V7 #54 ****************************