From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V5 #202 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Thursday, September 19 2002 Volume 05 : Number 202 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: are kids even allowed???? ["Sam Baker" ] Anyone with a good memory? [Mark Bradbourne ] RE: are kids even allowed???? ["D. Menken" ] RE: are kids even allowed???? ["Chris Varner" ] RE: are kids even allowed???? ["Marli Porth" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 01:32:07 -0400 From: "Sam Baker" Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? I don't mean to be rude back to you, but how dare you make a comment about my drinking habits - which, by the way I said NOTHING about, I said "the booze flows heavy, it's everywhere, and many people were there to spend the duration of the cruise drunk." No mention of me, in fact, I infer my comments to be rather critical of the carnival cruise drinking mentality and of the majority of Carnival Cruisers, regardless of whether a group of Edheads are on the ship or not. I don't think that anything I worte implies that I was on a cruise to as you said "drink in excess." If someone feels comfortable having their child surrounded by lots of alcohol and people who don't behave very well when very intoxicated, then that's their decision. I wouldn't do it, and am very offended for being judged by my opinion, especially when it was an answer to a question that was asking for opinions. Sammy >From: "D. Menken" >To: edheads@efohio.com >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:35:49 -0400 > >Sounds like Sam thinks it's cool to drink to excess. > >All I can say is: I've been a kid on a grownup cruises, and I enjoyed it, >and I've taken children on grownup cruises, and they've enjoyed it. I was >thinking of the Edhead III cruise, with my children, but it sounds like a >lot of the company is going to be a little too "mature" for our tastes. > >My other thought about cruises, is that some people do use the cruise >environment to drink to excess, and eat to excess, because they can't or >won't do it at home. These are the people who veteran cruisers tend to >avoid and who should really stay home. It not cool to see someone >#@$%faced, especially when they're on the Lido Deck leaning over the rail. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sam Baker [mailto:sammybaker@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:56 PM >To: edheads@efohio.com >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? > >Though I know that there are cruises geared towards family fun, I don't >think Carnival Cruises are among them. They call themselves "The Fun >Ship", > >and they don't mean Disney type fun from what I could tell when I went. >The > >booze flows heavy, it's everywhere, and many people where there to spend >the > >duration of the cruise drunk. The few kids that i saw that on the ship >didn't seem to be having a blast. They can't be in the casino, and nothing >for them to do at the bars. I don't know if and how babysitting works - >but > >how much fun is having a babysitter on a cruise ship when your 13. > >Just my two cents. > > > > > >From: Stuart Jewell > >To: "'puddytat@gis.net'" , "edheads@efohio.com" > > > >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? > >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:47:29 -0400 > > > >Your right. The 13 year old could probably hang. However, we have one > >daughter who is currently 8. We left her home with the Grandparents for > >both cruises. Need I say more. People tend to stay up and "whoop and > >holler" till after midnight and then some. I couldn't imagine having to > >make sure my daughter is well occupied and entertained while I am "ahem" > >partying. > >Stuart > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Scott & Trea McReynolds [SMTP:puddytat@gis.net] > >Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:20 PM > >To: edheads@efohio.com > >Subject: are kids even allowed???? > > > >Ok I will prolly get lambasted for this question but I have to ask.... > >The cruise...did any of you who went bring your kids???? > >We are seriously thinking of taking the next cruise and our 13 year old > >would LOVE to go! > >Our 3 year old on the other hand....well we just aint too sure. > >Sooo I was just looking for some feedback on this. > > > >Thanx > >Tree who was at the Gardner, MA show this past weekend and LOVED it!!! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 05:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mark Bradbourne Subject: Anyone with a good memory? I'm trying to figure out the data of a past EFO show that happened in 2001 post-9/11 at the Ark in Ann arbor, MI. if anyone can remember can you please mail me... thanks ===== - ------------------------------------------------------------ Mark R. Bradbourne http://www.bradbourne.net - ------------------------------------------------------------ "The visions of utmost beauty are only able to be created on the canvas of the soul, inspired by words from the heart." - Charles Hass (1973-2001) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:22:48 -0400 From: "D. Menken" Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? Lighten up. My email doesn't refer to you. I don't even know you. - -----Original Message----- From: Sam Baker [mailto:sammybaker@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:32 AM To: dmenken@sbjlaw.com; edheads@efohio.com Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? I don't mean to be rude back to you, but how dare you make a comment about my drinking habits - which, by the way I said NOTHING about, I said "the booze flows heavy, it's everywhere, and many people were there to spend the duration of the cruise drunk." No mention of me, in fact, I infer my comments to be rather critical of the carnival cruise drinking mentality and of the majority of Carnival Cruisers, regardless of whether a group of Edheads are on the ship or not. I don't think that anything I worte implies that I was on a cruise to as you said "drink in excess." If someone feels comfortable having their child surrounded by lots of alcohol and people who don't behave very well when very intoxicated, then that's their decision. I wouldn't do it, and am very offended for being judged by my opinion, especially when it was an answer to a question that was asking for opinions. Sammy >From: "D. Menken" >To: edheads@efohio.com >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? >Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 09:35:49 -0400 > >Sounds like Sam thinks it's cool to drink to excess. > >All I can say is: I've been a kid on a grownup cruises, and I enjoyed it, >and I've taken children on grownup cruises, and they've enjoyed it. I was >thinking of the Edhead III cruise, with my children, but it sounds like a >lot of the company is going to be a little too "mature" for our tastes. > >My other thought about cruises, is that some people do use the cruise >environment to drink to excess, and eat to excess, because they can't or >won't do it at home. These are the people who veteran cruisers tend to >avoid and who should really stay home. It not cool to see someone >#@$%faced, especially when they're on the Lido Deck leaning over the rail. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Sam Baker [mailto:sammybaker@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 11:56 PM >To: edheads@efohio.com >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? > >Though I know that there are cruises geared towards family fun, I don't >think Carnival Cruises are among them. They call themselves "The Fun >Ship", > >and they don't mean Disney type fun from what I could tell when I went. >The > >booze flows heavy, it's everywhere, and many people where there to spend >the > >duration of the cruise drunk. The few kids that i saw that on the ship >didn't seem to be having a blast. They can't be in the casino, and nothing >for them to do at the bars. I don't know if and how babysitting works - >but > >how much fun is having a babysitter on a cruise ship when your 13. > >Just my two cents. > > > > > >From: Stuart Jewell > >To: "'puddytat@gis.net'" , "edheads@efohio.com" > > > >Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? > >Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:47:29 -0400 > > > >Your right. The 13 year old could probably hang. However, we have one > >daughter who is currently 8. We left her home with the Grandparents for > >both cruises. Need I say more. People tend to stay up and "whoop and > >holler" till after midnight and then some. I couldn't imagine having to > >make sure my daughter is well occupied and entertained while I am "ahem" > >partying. > >Stuart > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Scott & Trea McReynolds [SMTP:puddytat@gis.net] > >Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:20 PM > >To: edheads@efohio.com > >Subject: are kids even allowed???? > > > >Ok I will prolly get lambasted for this question but I have to ask.... > >The cruise...did any of you who went bring your kids???? > >We are seriously thinking of taking the next cruise and our 13 year old > >would LOVE to go! > >Our 3 year old on the other hand....well we just aint too sure. > >Sooo I was just looking for some feedback on this. > > > >Thanx > >Tree who was at the Gardner, MA show this past weekend and LOVED it!!! > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 10:13:49 -0500 From: "Chris Varner" Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? Hey D, From your last msg (to Sam): > Lighten up. My email doesn't refer to you. I don't even know you. ...and from your previous msg... > Sounds like Sam thinks it's cool to drink to excess. Now that doesn't refer to Sam?? You probably don't know him -- neither do I -- but calling him by name is certainly making a reference to him... -c ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 11:41:48 -0400 From: "Marli Porth" Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? Am I the only person who wishes y'all would take this conversation offline? Come on dudes----get back to the reason we have this list serv, to talk about how freakin' awesome EFO is. Cheers. Marli "Chris Varner" Sent by: owner-edheads@efohio.com 09/19/2002 11:13 AM Please respond to cvarner To: edheads@efohio.com cc: Subject: RE: are kids even allowed???? Hey D, From your last msg (to Sam): > Lighten up. My email doesn't refer to you. I don't even know you. ...and from your previous msg... > Sounds like Sam thinks it's cool to drink to excess. Now that doesn't refer to Sam?? You probably don't know him -- neither do I -- but calling him by name is certainly making a reference to him... -c ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V5 #202 *****************************