From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V5 #119 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Tuesday, May 28 2002 Volume 05 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: Nicole's cruise report (long) ["John Eddy" ] Re: Nicole's cruise report (long) ["Kerry Frey" ] EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) [Nicole Carlso] RE: Nicole's cruise report (long) ["John Eddy" ] RE: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) ["John Eddy" Subject: RE: Nicole's cruise report (long) What an interesting concept. Instead of one venue, how about multiples? EFO could make extra bank by playing a 'regular' tour. EdHeads could make multiple shows by being with the band on the trip. Maybe set up one private concert along the way. Could be interesting. Maybe next year I can make the cruise. :( - -----Original Message----- From: Paul Brown [mailto:pbrown@michweb.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:16 AM To: Cryan, Lauren B; 'Jessica Brown'; novamacs@juno.com; edheads@efohio.com Subject: RE: Nicole's cruise report (long) While a train trip sounds somewhat interesting I question the ability to have a quality concert on board, thought maybe you could have one at a venue along the way somewhere. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:08:38 -0400 From: "Kerry Frey" Subject: Re: Nicole's cruise report (long) About the next cruise (or alternative): when I discussed a next time with Robbie and Mike, there were three possibilities (likely October 2003): Renting a smaller sailboat (Windjammer, probably least likely due to the minimum rental being a week), Vancouver to Alaska, or New Orleans to Cozumel. Speaking as one who took a while to get his land legs back, I certainly wouldn't mind being land based, but I think they're trying to keep the price in the same range. Kerry - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexeplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. - Douglas Adams http://www.magenta.com/~morpheus/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:29:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Carlson Subject: EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) John Eddy wrote: >EFO could make extra bank by playing a 'regular' tour. EdHeads could >make multiple shows by being with the band on the trip. Maybe I'm missing something, but how is this different from regular tours? EFO's travelling following doesn't quite match up to, say, the Dead or Phish or anything, but I know plenty of people on this list who go to several shows on a tour. Myself included. Paul Brown wrote: > way somewhere. So, a cruise may be the best alternative unless we > could just book our own EFO Fest somewhere and have the band play all > day long for three days. All in Favor? Aye Oh yeah, the band would LOVE the all-day-for-three-days-part. :) Day 2-- Edheads: "Just start with Juggler and play everything. Again." EFO: "Can we at least have potty breaks today?" > In a discussion with the woman from Belair Travel, while waiting to > disembark, she talked about how much more expensive it would be to have > a similar outing at a hotel, as it would cost 2-3 times as much as the > cruise, and you would still have to pay for food on top of that. Lauren Cryan wrote: > > Just to add my $.02, I wouldn't change the venue. I love the idea > of a > > cruise ship vacation with EFO. I don't think you can beat being on a > really > > big boat with a bunch of Edheads. I had a blast on the cruise. Sure, I thought the food was mediocre (plentiful, though), service was kinda spotty, and the brown liquid coming out of the coffee dispensers should have been taken out and shot. But damn! did I have fun hanging out with Edheads poolside, deckside, Nassau-side, barside, and everywhere in between. I wouldn't do a solo cruise (leastaways, not on Carnival)--but I'd do an Edhead cruise again in a heartbeat. And personally, I think this is all academic. Events like the cruise require a LOT of organizing, yet I think it's the simplest of all possible events. Unless BelAir's Fan Club Cruises department branched out to--for example--ski resorts, someone would have to coordinate group reservations for 114 people, dinner reservations for same, concert space, paying the band, figuring out how to schlep a drum kit up the mountain, etc. With a cruise, all that's just fractions of a grand total that's already calculated for you. With a land-based alternate event, you'd have to calculate everything yourself. It would suck. Just my thoughts. - --nicole twn *** "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato chip market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food market and it is fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose."--James Finke, president of Commodore, 1982 Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org carlsonn@seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:35:40 -0700 From: "John Eddy" Subject: RE: Nicole's cruise report (long) My vote is for vacouver to alaska ;) Seattle Based Edhead Feeling Cut Off - jd Plus, I live on a housebarge, so I don't have landlegs anymore. Heck, sitting at this desk in my cube at work I feel like I'm rocking back and forth... Or maybe that's the bourbon.... - -----Original Message----- From: Kerry Frey [mailto:ktfrey@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:09 PM To: edheads@efohio.com Subject: Re: Nicole's cruise report (long) About the next cruise (or alternative): when I discussed a next time with Robbie and Mike, there were three possibilities (likely October 2003): Renting a smaller sailboat (Windjammer, probably least likely due to the minimum rental being a week), Vancouver to Alaska, or New Orleans to Cozumel. Speaking as one who took a while to get his land legs back, I certainly wouldn't mind being land based, but I think they're trying to keep the price in the same range. Kerry - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarrely inexeplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened. - Douglas Adams http://www.magenta.com/~morpheus/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:37:05 -0700 From: "John Eddy" Subject: RE: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) Well... Imagine riding Harvey between the shows with the band :) - -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Carlson [mailto:nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:30 PM Cc: edheads@efohio.com Subject: EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) John Eddy wrote: >EFO could make extra bank by playing a 'regular' tour. EdHeads could >make multiple shows by being with the band on the trip. Maybe I'm missing something, but how is this different from regular tours? EFO's travelling following doesn't quite match up to, say, the Dead or Phish or anything, but I know plenty of people on this list who go to several shows on a tour. Myself included. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:18:43 EDT From: JRaimo007@aol.com Subject: Re: EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) In a message dated 5/28/2002 3:30:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu writes: > for example--ski resorts I had a blast on cruise #1 and #2. I plan on taking on the seas again for #3 whenever that happens. I agree with nicole, though. If EFO wasn't on the ship, the cruise would have sucked. I also heard alot of chatter about a ski resort. I don't know about anyone else, but after a full day of skiing, I don't want anything to do with a nightlife. Random thoughts are over. Thank you for your time - jim raimo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:56:10 -0400 From: "Jamie Barth" Subject: Re: EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) I concur with Jim - one of the reasons the cruise (tacky as it was) was so much fun was that we had the energy to play so hard, since we lay around in the sun much of the day. In addition, since swimming away was not an option, we kept running in to each other on board. Thus, I found myself getting to know people I may not have seen outside the shows. If we can find an activity that lets us relax while keeping us together in a centralized spot, then a non-cruise may work. Carnival, while not my choice for cruising only, is reasonably priced. Jamie - ----Original Message Follows---- From: JRaimo007@aol.com To: edheads@efohio.com Subject: Re: EFO: Cruise alternates (was Nicole's cruise report (long)) Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 16:18:43 EDT MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from hotmail.com ([65.54.236.20]) by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Tue, 28 May 2002 13:25:13 -0700 Received: from smoe.org ([66.89.201.78]) by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Tue, 28 May 2002 13:19:48 -0700 Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1])by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4SKJJQl003317for ; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost)by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g4SKJJ3n003315for edheads-outgoing; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:19:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tomco.wdn.com (tomco.irides.com [216.250.230.63]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g4SKJHQl003284 for ; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-r08.mx.aol.com (imo-r08.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.104]) by tomco.wdn.com (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22736 for ; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:19:21 -0400 Received: from JRaimo007@aol.com by imo-r08.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v32.5.) id 8.130.ee7cfe6 (4239) for ; Tue, 28 May 2002 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <130.ee7cfe6.2a254023@aol.com> X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows US sub 534 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.97c X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Sender: owner-edheads@efohio.com Precedence: bulk Return-Path: owner-edheads@efohio.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2002 20:19:49.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[044960D0:01C20685] In a message dated 5/28/2002 3:30:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu writes: > for example--ski resorts I had a blast on cruise #1 and #2. I plan on taking on the seas again for #3 whenever that happens. I agree with nicole, though. If EFO wasn't on the ship, the cruise would have sucked. I also heard alot of chatter about a ski resort. I don't know about anyone else, but after a full day of skiing, I don't want anything to do with a nightlife. Random thoughts are over. Thank you for your time - jim raimo - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 18:52:57 EDT From: Shellyus@aol.com Subject: Re: cruise alternate{my .02 cents} ok..time for -my- .02, which, is gonna sound a LOT like lauren's .02, but longer... though i -was- a first-time cruiser, i agree with lauren about the fact that it was good that we were all self-contained on the boat; we didn't hafta deal with finding restaurants, bars, etc. and we were always able to pretty much find each other, which i thought was good. we also had the day in nassau where we could do any damn thing we pleased and didn't necessarily -have- to stick with everyone else. like..there wasn't the 'oh...-we're- all going on THIS excursion' kinda deal; we could all just do what we pleased. and the space of the cabins was -not- as bad as i thoughtit was gonna be goin in, hearing horror stories from a friend whose sister and family had cruised the year before to like italy or something.... i mean....we goddesses of M-91 managed to sleep 4 to a cabin. and not kill each other. -and-, as andrea said..we had a very profane bear there, too. ;) and it -was- good that we, the edhead posse, were all kinda a unit unto ourselves who, yes, shared all of the commom areas like the lido deck, dining room, and buffets with the 'others' on board, but didn't necessarily have to -deal- with them or socialize with them{as snarky as that sounds..} we kinda just mingled and defined each night after dinner what we thought we were all gonna do/where we were all gonna go and whatever. fun was had. *shrug* i just don't think the whole 'following the band for a tour' would work..i mean..we'd all hafta, like carpool..or get our -own- RVs to rent???..or rent hotel rooms in each place..etc.....how would -that- work?? skiing outing? dunno. don't ski. but i am sure i'd make use of the lodge and be waiting with cocoa when everyone strolled in. resort? hmm. sounds like the best of them right after the cruise, but, again...schematics...*shrug* i just think that the cruise thing works best, IMHO. in fact, i have already started again putting change in my 'cruise fund' bank for when the next one sets sail. see...my .02 just -never- is that...i always seem to take at -least- .06. *grin* shelly {who misses the cruise already and her fellow cruiseheads..and will finish her saga, along with the rams head goodness} ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V5 #119 *****************************