From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V4 #211 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Wednesday, September 19 2001 Volume 04 : Number 211 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fwd: Great Day [Yfandes1@aol.com] 99 luftballoons ["Carey Farrell" ] Re: September 11 [Andy Squires ] If I had a radio show (Warped Humor) ["Ron Rosen" ] Re: 99 Luftballoons [Shellyus@aol.com] Re: Banned Songs- My reactions [Ellen Buckley ] Friday's show in NYC ["John Ryan" ] Re: Banned Songs- My reactions ["Liam Sullivan" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:48:36 EDT From: Yfandes1@aol.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Great Day I'm breaking my college roommate into EFO, and Great Day is by far her favorite song. We haven't gotten through all the CDs yet though, cause every know and then she has to put in some rap-stuff. Marie In a message dated Tue, 18 Sep 2001 7:35:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "joseph murphy" writes: > Hi: > > I thought that you all might be interested in the email I just received from > my great-neice. > > PAX VOBISCUM & AMDG > GOD BLESS AMERICA > > Joe > > > >From: "Victoria Ekstrand" > >To: jbmurph@hotmail.com > >Subject: Great Day > >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:59:56 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from [207.69.200.57] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailBD6FDA2A008E4136E81FCF45C8391FA90; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:02:56 -0700 > >Received: from [165.247.131.15] (user-2ivf0of.dialup.mindspring.com > >[165.247.131.15])by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id > >UAA06583for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:02:54 -0400 (EDT) > >From vekstrand@mindspring.com Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:11:19 -0700 > >Message-Id: <200109180002.UAA06583@mclean.mail.mindspring.net> > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) > >X-Priority: 3 > > > >Dear Uncle Joey: > > > >I was at a wedding this Saturday in Greensboro and the bride and groom > >entered to "Great Day!" (They come with me to all the EFO concerts in > >Carrboro.) > > > >Please tell Julie that this song has been so uplifting in light of > >everything in the past week.... > > > >much love, > >Tori > > > >------------------- > >Tori Smith Ekstrand > >Park Fellow, Ph.D. Program > >School of Journalism and Mass Communication > >University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill > >CB 3365 Carroll Hall, Chapel Hill, NC 27599 > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:58:10 +0000 From: "Carey Farrell" Subject: 99 luftballoons Someone asked why this song was included on the infamous banned list, and I'm guessing it's because it's about nuclear war. So sayeth Dave Marsh in the Book of Rock Lists, anyhoo. Carey _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:55:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Andy Squires Subject: Re: September 11 Hi, I've been a lurker here for a long time. Who would have thought it would take something like this to get me to write something to the list? First, I agree the actions of last week cannot be condoned and we must do all we can to bring the terrorists to justice. Having said that, I do think we Americans need to begin to educate ourselves to a much greater degree about what our government does around the world. We need to realize that we are part of a global community whether we like it or not. Folks need to understand that we do indeed support totalitarian regimes in places like Egypt and Saudi Arabia where dissent isn't much tolerated. Doesn't that make the U.S., the bastion of democracy, hypocritical? Can you imagine how the politics of the Middle East would be different if we didn't have to rely on oil from that part of the world? Also, many Arabs see what we are doing to the people in Iraq as not much better than what happened last week. I don't know, it's very complicated and taking out a few terrorists will not be the ultimate solution to the underlying problems. I traveled all over Africa this Summer, and one thing I heard people talking about was the disbelief that the U.S. would withdraw from the Kyoto agreements. Everyone saw it as such an arrogant act by the U.S. Just an example of our lack of cooperation with the rest of the world. I guess I'm just trying to say that Americans need to come out of their obliviousness to the rest of the world. Andy Andy Squires | The trouble with life is www.stellarfire.net | there's no background music. On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Shawn McCausland wrote: > Yes, we should have been prepared. But I balk at thinking that we are in > any way responsible for this attack or, more specifically, the implication > that we deserved it even in the smallest measure. There have to be norms of > behavior among states just as there are among individuals, and just as I > can't go blow someone away just because they humiliated me in front of my > friends or didn't come through on a loan they promised me, other states or > organizations should not feel sanctioned to commit the kind of atrocity we > have witnessed because they disagree with a piece of U.S. foreign policy > that has adversely affected them. Or, to put it another way, so we screwed > 'em - too bad, doesn't mean they have the right to fly a plane into an > office building and kill innocent people. > > Shawn McCausland > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jennifer Feneley > To: Ron Rosen ; > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:41 PM > Subject: Re: September 11 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ron Rosen" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:00 PM > > Subject: Re: September 11 > > > > > > Ron wrote: > > > > > Jennifer - Unfortunately history and politics make strange bedfellows. > > Nations > > > respond to particular situations that they believe are in their > interests > > at > > > particular moments. > > > > In my humble and politically undereducated mind, politics and most things > > make strange bedfellows. I think I must be an extremely hard to please > > constituent. I want freedom and to be protected from random, violent > acts, > > but I also cringe at the idea of them being committed on my behalf. I can > > only imagine how I would feel if I were directly affected by recent > events, > > but from some of the cowboy type comments I've heard from the nation's > > leaders recently, I fear that our near future may hold some random > violence. > > By no means do I condone the acts of the criminals who committed these > acts, > > or those behind them, but isn't it possible that we are a fraction of an > > iota of an inch responsible for this? Shouldn't we have been prepared for > > something like this to happen to our country after some of the particular > > situations in which we've involved ourselves? > > > > Jennifer > > jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 07:40:02 -0700 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: If I had a radio show (Warped Humor) Here's my alternative to the Clear Channel Banned Songs list. It is warped humor, not meant to be offensive, if you are easlity offended or extremely controlling, PLEASE DO NOT READ ON: OK, on my morning show I will play "Ahab the Arab" by Ray Stevens, "The Worst that Could Happen" by the Brooklyn Bridge, anything by the Tower of Power, "New York Mining Disaster 1941" by the Bee Gees, "Big Bad John" by Jimmy Dean, "Boom Boom" John Lee Hooker, "Concrete and Clay" Unit 4 + 2, "Sh-Boom" Crewcuts, "Shake Rattle and Roll" Arthur Conley and "Helter Skelter." All off this backed by a huge screen showing the cover of Jefferson Airplane's Crown of Creation which features a color photo of a nuclear blast. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:30:40 -0400 From: Ellen Buckley Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions i'm kind of surprised that The Cure's "Killing an Arab" didn't make the list. though maybe it's already banned from clear channel radio stations. ;) peace, ellen - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. - -from The Washington Post's Style Invitational ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:24:56 EDT From: Shellyus@aol.com Subject: Re: 99 Luftballoons To take care's post a step further about 99 Luftballoons, there is also the lyric{in the english version anyhoo} 'it's all over and i'm standing pretty in this dust that was a city' i just assumed for that line -alone- it was logical for the banned list{*disclaimer* i do not actually -feel- that this list is 'logical' on some fronts} shelly {who's at work and hatin it} ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:41:27 -0400 From: Ellen Buckley Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions Ron Rosen wrote: > What is that song about? "Ahab the A-Rab" is a funny song, but I'm sure not > politically correct. it's about "The Stranger," by albert camus. a point which is utterly lost on the people who have sought to ban it. peace, ellen - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. - -from The Washington Post's Style Invitational ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:50:45 -0400 From: "John Ryan" Subject: Friday's show in NYC This show still of being on, so to all of those people who have tix to what could be a VERY poignant show, be ready for a tearjerker. I SO would love to be there, but alas I have a wedding to go. I'm asking if any tapers are going to this show if they could hook me up. Also, the shows at the Knitting Factory are usually webcasted on Digital Club Network (DCN.com), so hopefully this show won't be an exception. Take care people. - - John Ryan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 16:38:43 -0400 From: "Liam Sullivan" Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions This song is based on Camus?: ?????! Ahab, The Arab Let me tell you 'bout Ahab The Arab The Sheik of the burning sand He had emeralds and rubies just dripping off 'a him And a ring on every finger of his hands He wore a big ol' turban wrapped around his head And a scimitar by his side And every evening about midnight He'd jump on his camel named Clyde...and ride Spoken Silently through the night to the sultan's tent where he would secretly meet up with Fatima of the Seven Veils, swingingest grade "A" number one U.S. choice dancer in the Sultan's whole harem, 'cause, heh, him and her had a thing going. You know, and they'd been carrying on for some time now behind the Sultan's back and you could hear him talk to his camel as he rode out across the dunes, his voice would cut through the still night desert air and he'd say (! imitate Arabian speech) which is arabic for, "stop, Clyde!" and Clyde would say, (imitate camel voice). Which is camel for, "What the heck did he say anyway?" Well.... He brought that camel to a screeching halt At the rear of Fatima's tent jumped off Clyde, Snuck around the corner and into the tent he went There he saw Fatima laying on a Zebra skin rug Wearing rings on her fingers and bells on her toes And a bone in her nose ho, ho. Spoken There she was friends lying there in all her radiant beauty. Eating on a raisin, grape, apricot, pomegranate, bowl of chitterlings, two bananas, three Hershey bars, sipping on a "R C" Co-Cola listening to her transistor, watching the Grand Ole Opry on the tube reading the Mad magazine while she sung, "Does your chewing gum lose it's flavor?" and Ahab walked up to her and he said, (imitate Arabian speech) which is arabic for, "Let's twist again like we did l! ast summer, baby." (laughter) You know what I mean! Whew! She looked up at him from off the rug, give him one of the sly looks, she said, (coy, girlish laugh) "Crazy baby". 'Round and around and around and around...etc. And that's the story 'bout Ahab the Arab The Sheik of the Burnin' sand Ahab the Arab The swinging Sheik of the burnin' sand Written by: Ray Stevens - ----Original Message Follows---- From: Ellen Buckley Reply-To: ebuckley@usra.edu To: Ed Heads Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:41:27 -0400 Ron Rosen wrote: > What is that song about? "Ahab the A-Rab" is a funny song, but I'm sure not > politically correct. it's about "The Stranger," by albert camus. a point which is utterly lost on the people who have sought to ban it. peace, ellen - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it. -from The Washington Post's Style Invitational - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V4 #211 *****************************