From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V4 #210 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Wednesday, September 19 2001 Volume 04 : Number 210 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Banned Songs [Nicole Carlson ] Re: Banned Songs ["Paul & Nancy Brown" ] Re: Banned Songs [Buddy Brannan ] Re: Banned Songs [Nicole Carlson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:29:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Carlson Subject: Re: Banned Songs On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Sara wrote: > country. I am deeply saddened and will not listen to these stations if they > choose to adhere to this recommended ban. Sara, I hate to break this to you, but you're up against the Microsoft of the airwaves. Clear Channel owns 1200 stations nationwide, and a stunning 247 of the 250 largest radio markets. (Numbers from a fascinating if dispiriting little peek at the radio industry: http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index.html ) - --nicole twn *** "Don't worry; this will all make sense once you've dropped some acid." - --former computer science professor, on computer architecture Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org carlsonn@seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 22:35:35 -0400 From: "Paul & Nancy Brown" Subject: Re: Banned Songs I just heard that Clear Channel is denying that there is such a list. Has anyone heard about this list from a regular news source, and not just an e-mail? Paul - ----- Original Message ----- From: Nicole Carlson Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 10:29 PM Subject: Re: Banned Songs > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Sara wrote: > > country. I am deeply saddened and will not listen to these stations if they > > choose to adhere to this recommended ban. > > Sara, I hate to break this to you, but you're up against the Microsoft of > the airwaves. Clear Channel owns 1200 stations nationwide, and a stunning > 247 of the 250 largest radio markets. (Numbers from a fascinating > if dispiriting little peek at the radio industry: > http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2001/04/30/clear_channel/index.html ) > > --nicole twn > > *** > "Don't worry; this will all make sense once you've dropped some acid." > --former computer science professor, on computer architecture > Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn > nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org carlsonn@seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 21:43:27 -0500 From: Buddy Brannan Subject: Re: Banned Songs On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 10:35:35PM -0400, Paul & Nancy Brown wrote: > I just heard that Clear Channel is denying that there is such a list. Has According to the snopes web site, they aren't denying the list exists. They are, however, saying the list was drawn up by *one* program director and is **not** official company policy, and any program director is free to program the station however he sees fit. (I assume that that "however he sees fit" has an assumed "within certain constraints" attached though.) - -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | From the pines down to the projects, Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks. Phone: (972) 276-6360 | And it's only going forward, ICQ: 36621210 | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 20:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Carlson Subject: Re: Banned Songs On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Paul & Nancy Brown wrote: > I just heard that Clear Channel is denying that there is such a list. Has > anyone heard about this list from a regular news source, and not just an > e-mail? Wade mentioned snopes.com, which is an excellent reference on urban legends and related phenomena. Snopes has an analysis of the e-mail everyone saw, plus a link to Clear Channel (www.clearchannel.com). They say that the list is the work of one program director and is just a compilation of songs that people *may* find in poor taste and that individual stations *may* therefore wish to not play. I don't know, though. I'm a big fan of debunking urban legends as they come up [1], but to me Clear Channel's denial sounds an awful lot like corporate "clarifying"/backpedalling. On the other hand, if it's not an official corporate blacklist but rather an unofficial list by one guy, well, I think that goes a long way towards explaining the odder choices on the list. Maybe they made sense to him. Just my $.02 - --nicole twn [1] Though I'll freely admit that I majorly dropped the ball on this one. I'll do more verification in the future, I promise. *** "Don't worry; this will all make sense once you've dropped some acid." - --former computer science professor, on computer architecture Visit Nicolopolis! http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~carlsonn nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu ana.ng@tmbg.org carlsonn@seclab.cs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V4 #210 *****************************