From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V4 #208 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Tuesday, September 18 2001 Volume 04 : Number 208 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Banned Songs- My reactions [Jess ] Re: Banned Songs- My reactions ["Jennifer Feneley" ] Re: September 11 ["Jennifer Feneley" ] Re: September 11 ["Shawn McCausland" ] Re: September 11 ["Jennifer Feneley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions *I am rather fond of sarcasm to express outrage* > All Rage Against The Machine songs That's lovely - most of their songs deal with opression, ironic that those songs shoulb be opressed themselves. > Bangles - "Walk Like an Egyptian" I don't get this - we're not suppose to mention Arabs/Africans at all now? > Alanis Morissette - "Ironic" This list has more real ironies than that song. Yes, his plane crashed. But planes have crashed before. > The Beatles - "Obla Di, Obla Da" Nicole - I think it's the life goes on part. We're suppose to stay mad indefinitely so that the war will be supported by the nation. if we begin to heal, Bush won't get his ratings boost. > Louis Armstrong - "What A Wonderful World" We're not suppose to advocate that the world is wonderful, with all the people who are helping and caring right now? > Peter Paul and Mary - "Blowin' in the Wind" > Simon And Garfunkel - "Bridge Over Troubled Water" > Cat Stevens - "Peace Train" > Cat Stevens - "Morning Has Broken" > Petula Clark - "A Sign of the Times" > John Lennon - "Imagine" To try to ban these songs especially is sick. We need to heal, to think in terms of togetherness and peace otherwise there will just be an increase in the death toll. > Tramps - "Disco Inferno" Not a huge loss, IMHO, but then if I don't like a song i can turn off the radio. > Neil Diamond - "America" Can't trust those Canucks, they've been trying to undermine us since day 1. Example: Fruvous trying to initiate an intra-Penn. rivalry. (BTW: I'm a Canuck.) > Animals - "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" Word. As soon as i get the cash, I'm going back to Africa where things make a helluva lot more sense to me. > Nina - "99 LuftBalloons/99 Red Balloons" Do't get it. Like the song, don't get it's objectionable status. Were the people who suggested this idea of banning songs on crack? Are they going to play "At least I live in America, where at least i know I'm free" instead? The iron in this irony is turning my blood red, so I should stop now before I really begin to rant. Sorry for the diatribe, but tho world just gets stranger and stranger and more and more scary. Love- Jess ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Whiting Brown E LVCTVS SPES "And after the break, a shark catcher who caught a shark today. Stay put, you don't want to miss this." - -The LA 11:00 news anchor __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:26:19 -0400 From: "Jennifer Feneley" Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jess" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Banned Songs- My reactions > *I am rather fond of sarcasm to express outrage* > > > Sorry for the diatribe, but tho world just gets > stranger and stranger and more and more scary. > > Love- > Jess I agree Jess and there's no need to apologize to me. It looks like the lunatics are indeed taking over the asylum. Now, if all of top forty songs were banned (especially those by "boy bands" or "girl bands" or teenaged blonde girls), I could finally listen to commercial radio in my location. I think that would be a step in the right direction! Jennifer jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:35:17 EDT From: GeorgeTurtle@aol.com Subject: Banned Songs- some are safe! As to the thought of banning the songs from the Boy Bands and the blondies, there is no need to worry. They seem to be limiting their censorship to only songs that have meaningful content. So, no need to worry, the Justins and Britneys of the world can sleep sound tonight. Katie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:37:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jess Subject: I don't have a STD! I don't know how many y'all were at last years Berkeley late show where Mike got the audience to ask how my ghonerrea is (i can't even spell it). :D I also don't know how many y'all actually think that he was being serious. But! I have recieved some ... odd comments from people that make me want to ensure that there is no doubt. I do not have that unspellable disease. *giggle* Never have, hopefully never will. "I'm clean, I tell ya! You ain't got nothing on me!" It was a great joke however, and still makes me laugh when I listen to the tape. :) Jess, who should not read her emails once a week and then respond. ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Whiting Brown E LVCTVS SPES "And after the break, a shark catcher who caught a shark today. Stay put, you don't want to miss this." - -The LA 11:00 news anchor __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:41:23 -0400 From: "Jennifer Feneley" Subject: Re: September 11 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Rosen" To: Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:00 PM Subject: Re: September 11 Ron wrote: > Jennifer - Unfortunately history and politics make strange bedfellows. Nations > respond to particular situations that they believe are in their interests at > particular moments. In my humble and politically undereducated mind, politics and most things make strange bedfellows. I think I must be an extremely hard to please constituent. I want freedom and to be protected from random, violent acts, but I also cringe at the idea of them being committed on my behalf. I can only imagine how I would feel if I were directly affected by recent events, but from some of the cowboy type comments I've heard from the nation's leaders recently, I fear that our near future may hold some random violence. By no means do I condone the acts of the criminals who committed these acts, or those behind them, but isn't it possible that we are a fraction of an iota of an inch responsible for this? Shouldn't we have been prepared for something like this to happen to our country after some of the particular situations in which we've involved ourselves? Jennifer jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:56:36 -0400 From: "Shawn McCausland" Subject: Re: September 11 Yes, we should have been prepared. But I balk at thinking that we are in any way responsible for this attack or, more specifically, the implication that we deserved it even in the smallest measure. There have to be norms of behavior among states just as there are among individuals, and just as I can't go blow someone away just because they humiliated me in front of my friends or didn't come through on a loan they promised me, other states or organizations should not feel sanctioned to commit the kind of atrocity we have witnessed because they disagree with a piece of U.S. foreign policy that has adversely affected them. Or, to put it another way, so we screwed 'em - too bad, doesn't mean they have the right to fly a plane into an office building and kill innocent people. Shawn McCausland - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jennifer Feneley To: Ron Rosen ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:41 PM Subject: Re: September 11 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ron Rosen" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: September 11 > > > Ron wrote: > > > Jennifer - Unfortunately history and politics make strange bedfellows. > Nations > > respond to particular situations that they believe are in their interests > at > > particular moments. > > In my humble and politically undereducated mind, politics and most things > make strange bedfellows. I think I must be an extremely hard to please > constituent. I want freedom and to be protected from random, violent acts, > but I also cringe at the idea of them being committed on my behalf. I can > only imagine how I would feel if I were directly affected by recent events, > but from some of the cowboy type comments I've heard from the nation's > leaders recently, I fear that our near future may hold some random violence. > By no means do I condone the acts of the criminals who committed these acts, > or those behind them, but isn't it possible that we are a fraction of an > iota of an inch responsible for this? Shouldn't we have been prepared for > something like this to happen to our country after some of the particular > situations in which we've involved ourselves? > > Jennifer > jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:27:35 -0400 From: "Jennifer Feneley" Subject: Re: September 11 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn McCausland" To: "Jennifer Feneley" ; "Ron Rosen" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:56 PM Subject: Re: September 11 > Or, to put it another way, so we screwed > 'em - too bad, doesn't mean they have the right to fly a plane into an > office building and kill innocent people. > > Shawn McCausland On this I agree with you hands down. I don't even believe in spanking my dogs. I can't comprehend what's behind such a violent act. I grapple with it every hour. When this first happened, I wanted us to flatten Afghanistan, but obviously my feelings are shifting. My question is, if we screwed them and they fly planes into office buildings killing innocent people, to what lengths will our government go to retaliate? It frightens me. Jennifer jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V4 #208 *****************************