From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V4 #204 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Monday, September 17 2001 Volume 04 : Number 204 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: September 11 [Eric Iannacone ] Glad that EFO isn't on clear channel [Shellyus@aol.com] Re: Banned Songs [Zonker629@aol.com] Re: September 11--in defense of Shawn ["steve roane" ] Radio Songs ["RB Mays" ] Re: Banned Songs [Don Semmens ] Fw: September 11 ["Jennifer Feneley" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:38:21 -0400 From: Eric Iannacone Subject: Re: September 11 HI I gotta speak up this time! I think that separately both of these messages below contain valid points, but to directly rebutt what Kristin has posted in such a manner is uncalled for. I myself would like to see justice done as well, but I think that love and understanding are alway in short supply worldwide. Also let us not forget that America has armed many nations around the world, a fact that does not get much attention in mainstream media. Those who committed these attacks are indefensible (to say the least), and those that died as a result are, without question, blameless, innocent victims. America is a great nation, and the American people will do the right thing, more often than not, but to assume that our government is infallible, and it's action always motivated by altruism is just not true. Eric Iannacone >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 9:28 AM >Subject: September 11 > > >> If there could be one lesson to be learned from this great human >> tragedy, I hope it is that we need to love one another. We need to put >aside >> our petty differences and celebrate the humanity in us all; black, white, >> arab, or whatever. >> They say that it is only through suffering that we learn compassion. >> Then may our suffering, our pain, and our anger serve to strengthen our >love >> and appreciation for one another. Let us not join in the evil that has >> allowed these events to unfold by turning to hate. Let us not look back in >> anger or forward in fear. Let us instead look around in awareness and >fight >> evil and hatred with the only thing capable of conquering it: LOVE. >> Love each other. Hug each other. Tell people you love them. For too >> many, that is no longer a luxury. Peace. >> >> Kristin >> >I'm sorry, but loving my neighbor or hugging my kids would not have >prevented what happened. If you're talking about tolerance and respect for >diversity, you're preaching to the choir, because there isn't a nation on >this Earth better at those things than ours. And no other nation works >harder at promoting peace between nations in conflict. > >But the time for diplomacy or peaceful measures on this issue is at an end. >People need to realize that those who inflicted this atrocity against our >country are not remotely like us insofar as their core beliefs, and no >amount of hugging or love or pacification is going to change that. We tried >that with Hitler in 1938 and 1939 - look what happened. There is a time for >every purpose under heaven, so the Bible says, and now is the time for >retribution, although certainly that retribution needs to be limited to >those responsible. It has been said that it is self-defense to kill those >who are clearly intent on killing you, and the current situation certainly >seems to fit that description. It was not our country that initiated this >war, and just as after Pearl Harbor in 1941 we have the right to aggression >to prevent such things from reoccurring. As my aunt-in-law says, it's not >okay to fight, but it's not okay to get beat up, either. > >That said, let us all pray that our retribution will be swift and effective, >and that we will be able to help return peace to the world as soon as >possible. > >Shawn McCausland ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:25:30 EDT From: Shellyus@aol.com Subject: Glad that EFO isn't on clear channel ok.....i was emailing ron to voice my distaste at some of the selections placed on the 'clear channel banned songs list'{bridge over troubled water???!!!! spirit in the sky???!!!} and i had an epiphany; isn't it kinda great that EFO -isn't- played on these stations??? can you IMAGINE .....'stupid american', 'gravity', 'a very short fuse', 'a very fine funeral', 'bleecker to broadway', 'abraham', 'smoke', 'this my town', 'revolution', 'fly south', 'montony'...mebbe even 'candido' and 'in paradise'..{and i'm sure more that i just can't think of off the top of my head right now} could be 'banned'.... all because of 'lyrically questionable' content or phraseology......*sigh* makes ya think about the thought police, eh? am i wrong here? all these songs from a band that -truly- loves America and makes no bones about that. kinda funny that 'preposition' would be more likely to be played that those, eh? just more food for thought. shelly {who seems to be feeling very soap-boxy today} o/' but there is a time for love, there is a time for love o/'---Robbie Schaefer, 'Jerusalem" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:30:07 EDT From: Zonker629@aol.com Subject: Re: Banned Songs In a message dated 9/17/01 4:43:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nmcarlson@ucdavis.edu writes: > > The Beatles - "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" > > The Beatles - "Ticket To Ride" > > The Beatles - "Obla Di, Obla Da" > > Huh? Why are these objectionable? Best guesses: Ticket To Ride and LSD could be construed as airplane references, I guess. No idea about Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da. Unless the "life goes on" line is considered objectionable. Okay, they're weak guesses, but I didn't come up with this asinine list. Guess I'll never make a good censor. What a shame. What I find really amusing is that "Imagine" is on their list, and I know I heard at least one radio station deliberately playing that song _for_ its message. Eric ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:43:33 -0400 From: "steve roane" Subject: Re: September 11--in defense of Shawn Directly rebutt Kristen in such a manner? huh? As far as I can tell, Shawn had reasoned reply, that neither attacked Kristen nor what she said. Getting up in arms because 2 people disagree is exactly the weakness of our culture that these terrorists prey on. Oprah pop psychology that says every one should just get along and love each other doesn't work with irrational nut jobs. Shawn was right that Western Europe/US's pacification of Hitler led to the slaughter of millions of people. Bin Laden and is ilk have been coddled long enough--they have been killing Americans for almost 10 years now. He has killed over 5000 people; thank God his plots to kill Bill Clinton, the Pope, and blow up several planes over the Pacific were foiled by a combination of luck and Philippine police. The time for hugs ended Sept. 11. I do disagree with Shawn on one point--Force is needed, but diplomacy is essential now more than ever, several Middle Eastern and Asian countries are as fearful of extremists as we are--Malayasia, Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and yes, even Iran to name a few. These countries are in a precarious situation and our diplomacy now may very well determine whether these countries will be led by moderates or the Talleban. Steve >From: Eric Iannacone >To: edheads@efohio.com >Subject: Re: September 11 >Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:38:21 -0400 > >HI > I gotta speak up this time! > > I think that separately both of these messages below contain valid >points, but to directly rebutt what Kristin has posted in such a manner is >uncalled for. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:54:23 -0400 From: Stuart Jewell Subject: RE: EFO change of subject Be careful. It might get banned! - -----Original Message----- From: JRaimo007@aol.com [SMTP:JRaimo007@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 3:13 PM To: edheads@efohio.com Subject: EFO change of subject There are 2 MP3's of "Oh, My Brother" available at efohio.com (one off "Portable" and one off "Fido") I think it would be a good thing to download these songs and send them to your local radio station. If possible, send it to the attention of the Program Director or Morning Show Personality / Producer. Many radio stations are programming their mornings devoted to the events of the last week some are already playing it. If anything, at least the MP3's are available for you. Thanks and God Bless America. - Jim Raimo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:09:52 -0400 From: "RB Mays" Subject: Radio Songs Hey Now! Clear Channel thinks they own many things. Richmond, Va. for instance. They bought up all kinds of stations after the deregulation. Figures they'd use this tragedy to further their ownership of the airwaves. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 19:41:35 -0400 From: Don Semmens Subject: Re: Banned Songs At 07:42 PM 9/16/2001 -0700, ronsopas@earthlink.net wrote: >"In response to Tuesday's terrorist attacks, Clear Channel, the world's >largest radio network, has sent out a list of some 150 "lyrically >questionable" songs by everyone from the Animals to the Zombies to its radio >stations, recommending that the songs not be aired. Some songs are overtly >violent in their intent, but the majority simply contain metaphorical >language or narrative aspects that connect uncomfortably with the tragedy. > >http://www.hitsdailydouble.com/news/songs.html Geez, pretty soon they'll be banning Kris Delmhorst's "Honeyed Out?" :-) don (my way of plugging Kris Delmhorst's GREAT new cd at www.krisdelmhorst.com ) you should buy it and find out What we do in love and kindness Is all we ever leave behind -- Carrie Newcomer, "Bare To The Bone" Don Semmens; Richmond VA; donsem@concentric.net Visit my Regan Site http://www.concentric.net/~donsem/regan.htm Rob Buck Memorial Scholarship Fund http://gottabuck.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:59:12 -0400 From: "Jennifer Feneley" Subject: Fw: September 11 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Eric Iannacone" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 5:38 PM > Subject: Re: September 11 > > > > HI > > I gotta speak up this time! > > > > I think that separately both of these messages below contain valid > > points, but to directly rebutt what Kristin has posted in such a manner is > > uncalled for. I myself would like to see justice done as well, but I > think > > that love and understanding are alway in short supply worldwide. > > Also let us not forget that America has armed many nations around > > the world, a fact that does not get much attention in mainstream media. Now I have to speak up. In the last week I have felt more patriotic to the USA then I ever imagined possible, but it's hard for me to forget that one of the nations America has so generously armed is Afghanistan by way of Pakistan. I don't think the Taliban was in existence at the time, but I do think it's possible that we helped to fuel the extremist terrorist fire in the east. Jennifer jenfen@glccomputers.com ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V4 #204 *****************************