From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V3 #174 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Wednesday, November 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 174 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Jack Can't Cook ["Ron Rosen" ] EFO - November 24 Ram's Head ["Richard Fortgang" ] Essentials [CBonfig1@aol.com] my "must hear" 10 [Thomas Ehrhardt ] question: [Thomas Ehrhardt ] This is driving me crazy! [Thomas Ehrhardt ] Re: This is driving me crazy! [Buddy Brannan ] OT: Apple Pandowdy [Buddy Brannan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 23:23:32 -0800 From: "Ron Rosen" Subject: Jack Can't Cook Bob Miller, announcer for the LA Kings hockey team, was inducted into the hockey hall of fame last night. Jack Kent Cooke owned the Kings when Miller was hired. Here's what Miller had to say about his years working for Jack in today's LA Times: "He had no idea what he had signed up for. Cooke, who'd brought the NHL to Los Angeles in 1967, had a finger in every aspect of the club's operations. Perched in his box high above one end of the Forum ice, his transistor radio on and binoculars trained on Miller, Cooke would call Miller to berate him during games. I've never worked for anyone as hands-on as Mr. Cooke," Miller said. "No one at Wisconsin ever said, 'Don't do this.' It was a real shock. He was on you constantly. Two months into the season, I remember driving to a game and thinking, 'I'm going to do the game to the best of my ability and not worry if every word out of my mouth pleases Mr. Cooke.' You can't do your job that way. "He'd call during a broadcast and say, 'You're not doing what I told you to do.' He wanted me to sell season tickets. I liken it to Pavlov's dog, where the dog associated a bell with feeding time, and every time a bell rang, the dog salivated. Every time I heard a phone ring, I did a season-ticket plug. It could have been four rows back in the press box, but I'd hear a phone and figure it was him nd say, 'Remember folks, season tickets are available.' " Cooke also threatened to fire him. "Mr. Cooke called me into the office and said he wanted me to mention our sponsor more," Miller said. "Our main sponsor then was Datsun. He said, 'For instance, you'll say, "There's Marcel Dionne scooting down ice like a Datsun." What do you think of that?' "I told him I couldn't think of saying it once, let alone every game, and he went berserk. He said, 'Get out of my sight. You're this close to being fired,' and he held up his thumb and forefinger close together. 'Do you know how many people would love to have your job?' "I worked for him for six years. The only reason I lasted is, he was out of town for four of those years." Maguire, the Kings' general manager from 1977 until Jan. 30, 1984, also made strange requests. Once, with Cooke in Las Vegas, Maguire asked Miller not to mention the name of defenseman Bob Murdoch. Puzzled, Miller asked if Murdoch had been benched. Maguire said Murdoch would play, but he didn't want Cooke to know because the owner didn't like Murdoch. "George said Cooke would listen to the game and see how many times Murdoch's name was mentioned and chew him out," Miller said. "I said, 'George, that's unreasonable.' As it happened, in that game, Murdoch was blocking shots and playing well and I was saying, 'What a great play by Murdoch,' and every time I mentioned his name, George was cringing. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 10:57:40 EST From: "Richard Fortgang" Subject: EFO - November 24 Ram's Head I hope everyone's day is going well. I have a question/request here. I know that sometime last week, someone was offering up tickets to the 11/24 show at the Ram's Head. Alas (silly me) I somehow deleted the messages. I was wondering if anyone has any tickets that they do not need for that show and are willing to sell. I am looking for three of them. If there is anyone who can help me out I would really appreciate it. Take care everyone. Rich _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:24:52 EST From: CBonfig1@aol.com Subject: Essentials Ok, the list has been fairly quiet so I will delurk and throw something out there to all of you. Leaving the Saturday night show at the Trocadero (which Mike may how learn to pronounce someday), my son and I had a discussion over what songs EFO includes from show to show, and what he considers "essentials". He was actually able to name 8-9 tunes off the top of his head he thought absolutely should be in every show. Interestingly his list was fairly different from mine. So I thought I'd submit this idea for discussion: what are your "essentials". If you could have EFO do a 10 song house concert for you, what songs would you request? Chip's list: 10) This My Town 9) Train Song 8) Bookends 7) Gravity 6) Rowboat to Rio 5) Old Dominion 4) Stupid American 3) Farmer Brown 2) The Bridge 1) Very Short Fuse Dad's list: 10) Great Day 9) Train Song 8) Woman of Faith 7) Cleo and Tony 6) Catchers Drummers Anchormen 5) The Bridge 4) This My Town 3) Old Dominion 2) Very Short Fuse 1) Farmer Brown Anybody else care to chime in? I'd be interested to see what kind of consensus there is. Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 11:55:07 -0500 From: Thomas Ehrhardt Subject: my "must hear" 10 I'll keep it short...my list includes: Bookends (I've never heard it live!) Farmer Brown (I even painted that one!), O' my Brother (Julie at her best), Bonny Brook (another painting!), This my town, The Bridge, Very Short Fuse (Go Eddie!) Hojo's on Waukeegan (surprise), One (my most favorite) Stupid American (my dad fave) *an encore of Julie singing shoe-fly pie & apple-pan dottie (an old Dinah Shore tune) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:20:17 -0500 From: Thomas Ehrhardt Subject: question: 1st I have tickets for the 12/8 show in Atlanta..anybody besides me on the list attending? How about an edhead meet at the Vortex for Burgers before hand...I'll bring Mike Clem w/ me! kind-of kidding but I'll do my best... An Idea for EFO's next disc a (2) cd live rarities + new song compilation with a good size book documenting the bands history...I know I'd pay good money for that...Also about the "Birchmere" what's it like that it sells out well in advance...we in Atlanta are lucky tickets are much easier to come-by.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:43:30 -0500 From: Thomas Ehrhardt Subject: This is driving me crazy! O.k. I will not rest or think any thoughts happy or otherwise until I find out what exactly an "Apple Pan Dottie" is... I have asked tons of people actually (6) and no one knows what it is! Help........... Yes I know it's a desert.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:56:51 -0600 From: Buddy Brannan Subject: Re: This is driving me crazy! *Hmmm* You're makin me dig back, back, way back in my memory for this. I seem to recall in Junior High having a cookbook of Colonial cuisine. Things like spoon bread, snickerdoodles, succotash, and all manner of things like that. (Wish I could remember the name of the book though--apart from having good recipes, it had interesting info in between the recipes.) If I'm not very much mistaken, apple pandowdy was some kind of apple pie. My memory wants to tell me it struke me as being messy and served warm, but I can't remember much else, and even that could be wrong. (I haven't seen this book in, oh, I guess damned near 15 years.) - -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV Voice mail: 877-791-5298 Email: davros@ycardz.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:52:20 -0600 From: Buddy Brannan Subject: OT: Apple Pandowdy Here's one of several recipes that Google came up with on that search: Apple Pandowdy ____________________________________________________ [ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ Over the Fence-Recipe Box ] [ FAQ ] ____________________________________________________ Posted by Karen on September 22, 2000 at 21:57:29: In Reply to: ISO:Thanksgiving recipie ideas. posted by Melissa Marie on September 22, 2000 at 12:04:20: Apple Pandowdy 3 cups peeled and sliced tart apples 1/2 tsp. ground nutmeg 1/2 tsp. ground cinnamon salt to taste 1/2 cup molasses 1-1/2 cups flour 2 tsp. baking powder 1/2 cup sugar 1/4 pound butter 1/2 cup whole milk 1 egg Preparation: Preheat oven to 350 degrees, and butter a 1-1/2 quart baking dish. Arrange the sliced apples in the dish, and sprinkle with the nutmeg, cinnamon and a pinch of the salt. Spoon the molasses over and cover the dish with foil. Bake for 30 minutes. Combine the flour, baking powder, sugar and another pinch of salt in a large bowl. Melt the butter in a small pan, and then remove from the heat. Stir in the milk and the egg, and beat well. Blend in the flour mixture. Pour this batter over the apples and return the baking dish to the oven. Bake until a toothpick comes out clean approximately 30 minutes. Serve topped with whipped cream. 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I'm nobody's lunch!" Voice mail: (877) 791-5298 | --Eddie From Ohio ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V3 #174 *****************************