From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V2 #26 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Wednesday, February 3 1999 Volume 02 : Number 026 Today's Subjects: ----------------- No EFO (or folk) content whatsoever: Metallica's "One" [EFOcrew@aol.com] edheads: ONE [CBonfig1@aol.com] My take on ONE ["Laura J. Mulcahy" ] Re: One (and intro) [Chad Maloney ] Re: My take on ONE [Jim Merullo ] Re: Re: One (and intro) [Bdupa@aol.com] Re: Re: One (and intro) [Jack Mitchell ] Re: Re: One (and intro) ["Kevin M. Scott" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 01:10:29 EST From: EFOcrew@aol.com Subject: No EFO (or folk) content whatsoever: Metallica's "One" <> Yeah! Metallica! I just heard "Master of Puppets" on the radio the other day and was blown away because it wasn't one of their MTV hits. Of course the radio DJ later released "new" news about the Dave Mustaine/Metallica relationship: Dave co-wrote some songs with them... Hello! He was in the band!! I think even a founding member. He co-wrote four songs from Metallica's first album, "Kill 'Em All." "The Four Horsemen," the second song on the album, sounds exactly like one of the songs from Megadeth's (Dave M.'s old band) first album, "Killing is My Business...And Business is Good!", only with different lyrics. Talk about being behind the times... Sorry about the anti-folk content, but you gotta love the album/song titles. Ex-Headbanger -CB PS: I used to draw the cover of that "cassingle" (remember those??) during class. Metallica Art was my only specialty except cutesy smiley faces and horse profiles. Whoo-Hoo! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:15:57 EST From: CBonfig1@aol.com Subject: edheads: ONE Well, I never saw anything close to a crossdressing reference in the song. Whoa...Where did that come from? Seems to me to just be a story of two people swept up ("he never meant to") in a forbidden love affair. They are "keeping up appearances for family and friends". Only later "in the hiding of their bedroom" does the passion emerge. And the tapestry reference I believe refers to the weaving of two bodies together in the act of lovemaking (the One I thought the title referred to). Geez, I always thought this was a pretty simple little song. Like seeing the lively discussion though! Chuck ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 10:39:55 -0500 From: "Laura J. Mulcahy" Subject: My take on ONE So I'm not saying this is correct, but I always imagined it as a two people emotionally involved with each other to the point where there is only one personality between the two of them. One person's identity got swept up by the other's, completely overtaken. Not by brute force, per se, but simply because one was stronger. Perhaps this is because my sister was recently in a relationship (now divorced) where her husband drove everything, every aspect of who they were and what they did. Eeek. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 10:48:18 -0500 From: Chad Maloney Subject: Re: One (and intro) Geoff Endlich wrote: > > The lyrics are at http://www.edhead.org/efo2/actually/One.htm > I am not quite sure what my translation of the song is but it sounds > slightly like sex to me? Hi! Short introduction. New EdHead here. Well, I've been a fan since for awhile, but I've just come over to this list. My name is Chad and I'm from Indianapolis IN. Actually just saw a really good two set show here last Saturday. Anyways, I love reading way too much into lyrics, so here goes *grin* Sorry if I'm too long winded and such for people. I guess this could be a song spoiler, but if you don't like what I'm saying, please ignore me! My interp of One I guess would be a relationship where instead of the two people each making each others' lives more full, becoming the cliched sum of the whole is more than the sum of the parts, the two join together and one (the man in this case) sucks the other in to make himself better. "first it happened slowly, then quickly came unveiled as madness disguised as something sane" The love was okay at first. The relationship was all good and happy. But then slowly things started to change until it all broke loose. The love was still there on the outside, but it disguised what was really there. "he wrapped her up in his life. she stuck to it like glue. round and round they spin, weaving in the night. tapestry will envelope them. they'll fight the good fight" The guy took her life into his and she just enjoyed the attention so much, she kept with it. Does that make sense? I've had friendships like that before. Where it isn't so mutual as it is parasitic. Not knowlingly of course. And when you are being leeched on really, you don't admit it to yourself at first. You think you are being the helpful good natured one and you appreciate the opportunity to be so important in someone's life until you realize that the situation isn't doing much for you at all. Tangent... anyways, they spin around and around in tapestry, kinda mumifying themselves together into one person instead of the two they used to be. "They'll fight the good fight" is, in my opinion, a kind weak lyric because it isn't really substantiated. I would guess it means she realized what is going on and attempts to get away, but still stick with it, possibly because of traditionalism and the Stand By Your Man crap. That would be neat imagery along with the mummy stuff. "one heart cannot hold all of this one man's grace is another man's hell two souls can melt together 'til one can no longer find itself" Someone is losing here in this. When you have two people, one can't get all the attention and all the prizes. What one heart is yearning for and is dreaming for isn't necessarily what the other one wants and in this relationship, the guy is overpowering so much that they work for his causes and dreams, ignoring hers. Her identity is lost without his. Bad things. "they kept up appearances for family and friends. he coveted her soul. she put up no defense" Well, it is a bad thing and you don't want to admit to what you are doing. Under the veil of love, he tried to make things look normal while he took her life and made it his. For some reason (see, this is kinda conflicting with the "fight the good fight" up there), she didn't try to get out of the destructive relationship. Maybe she loves the attention and longs to be with someone and this is how she thinks it has to be. "we all began to notice unmistakable signs. they were never in the same room at the very same time. and in the hiding of their bedroom one hybrid voice was heard. two would shed their clothing one body would emerge" The "never in the same room at the same time" is a metaphor (and a very cool one at that) to me. It doesn't mean they fought so much they didn't hang together. It means that when they were in the same place at the same time, they were one person and not two. Her life was gone and his took over for it. Other people saw that she was losing herself in him and as they got closer and more intimate, it just got worse and worse. Even when they were alone in private, her voice would be his voice, her opinions would be his opinions. - Chad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 11:19:37 -0500 From: Jim Merullo Subject: Re: My take on ONE I guess the lines that made me think of a crossdresser were: "we all began to notice unmistakable signs they were never in the same room at the very same time" I just keep thinking of Michael and Latoya Jackson when I hear that line. and: "and in the hiding of their bedroom one hybrid voice was heard two would shed their clothing one body would emerge" But after reading into the lyrics, I'm beginning to think it IS about a man and woman. Somewhere, Robbie is snickering. The song is probably about a Bugs Bunny episode or something... "Laura J. Mulcahy" wrote: > > So I'm not saying this is correct, but I always imagined it as a two people > emotionally involved with each other to the point where there is only one > personality between the two of them. One person's identity got swept up by > the other's, completely overtaken. Not by brute force, per se, but simply > because one was stronger. > > Perhaps this is because my sister was recently in a relationship (now > divorced) where her husband drove everything, every aspect of who they were > and what they did. > > Eeek. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:07:36 EST From: Bdupa@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: One (and intro) Anybody want to explain that "Blue Jeans" song to me? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:35:57 +0500 From: Jack Mitchell Subject: Re: Re: One (and intro) It's all about having to wear nice, uncomfortable clothes to work, and wanting to get home and put on some nice comfortable clothes. J At 05:07 PM 2/3/99 EST, you wrote: >Anybody want to explain that "Blue Jeans" song to me? > ___________________________________________________________________________ Jack Mitchell "When the imagination is playing its highest P.O. Box 787 game, it is important not to let it come out Blacksburg, VA 24063 into the open, lest reason should say 'Nonsense' Phone: (540) 552-4473 and the tension be lost." Email: jamitch3@vt.edu --from A Stranger at Green Knowe by L.M. Boston ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 17:38:31 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Scott" Subject: Re: Re: One (and intro) Phew. When I saw the question, I was afraid that, being a midwesterner, some profound cultural statement by a sophisticated Eastern (admittedly redundant) band had been slipped past me. kevin At 05:35 PM 03-02-99 +0500, Jack Mitchell wrote: > >It's all about having to wear nice, uncomfortable clothes to work, and >wanting to get home and put on some nice comfortable clothes. > >J > > >At 05:07 PM 2/3/99 EST, you wrote: >>Anybody want to explain that "Blue Jeans" song to me? >> >___________________________________________________________________________ >Jack Mitchell "When the imagination is playing its highest >P.O. Box 787 game, it is important not to let it come out >Blacksburg, VA 24063 into the open, lest reason should say 'Nonsense' >Phone: (540) 552-4473 and the tension be lost." >Email: jamitch3@vt.edu > --from A Stranger at Green Knowe > by L.M. Boston > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V2 #26 ****************************