From: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com (edheads-digest) To: edheads-digest@smoe.org Subject: edheads-digest V1 #119 Reply-To: edheads@efohio.com Sender: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Errors-To: owner-edheads-digest@efohio.com Precedence: bulk edheads-digest Thursday, December 17 1998 Volume 01 : Number 119 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: What about Bob? ["Geoff Endlich" ] Re: What about Bob? [john yoo ] EFO/PMB: Tape tree advice, please [EFOcrew@aol.com] Last Bad Habits Show [john.stanmeyer@us.pwcglobal.com] Re: EFO/PMB: Tape tree advice, please ["Dennis Lovelady" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:22:10 -0500 From: "Geoff Endlich" Subject: RE: What about Bob? Bravo....(loud round of applause............) Caroline is right without Bob a lot of this would not be possible since every time I go to a show he is always willing to help out, get us hooked in to the board in time for the show to start and one of the kindest people in the world. I have put a copy of the Old Dominion up at http://edhead.org/dominiom.mp3 if you would like to listen to CB's fabulous example (5.42Mb) - -Geoff Endlich - -----Original Message----- From: owner-edheads@efohio.com [mailto:owner-edheads@efohio.com] On Behalf Of EFOcrew@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 7:33 PM To: edheads@efohio.com Subject: EFO: What about Bob? Pre-PS: Sorry you're getting this twice, Mark, but I forgot to change the To: addy from yours to the edheads list's. Mark wrote Geoff and I a personal Thank You for the McCabe's show and the Handlebar show, but he forgot to thank Bob (probably because of his (Bob's) lack of making his email addy available to the public). Here is the note I was going to send to him, but I thought that you other Edheads might benefit by reading it as well, so here it is: Mark, Thanks for the compliment! You do realize that you are forgetting to credit someone. I mixed the show at McCabe's, but Geoff didn't mix the show at the Handlebar. He recorded the show and did a fantastic job with the production of the 3 disc set. (Thanks Geoff!) Bob McNichols is EFO's main soundguy. He mixed the Handlebar show, and mixes them at most of the big shows. I am merely their monitor engineer who is filling in so Bob can spend some time with his lovely wife and daughter. I am pretty good at what I do, but Bob is the master. He not only gets the band sounding good, but he plays the mixing console like an instrument. He uses the effects to add a little zip to what's going on onstage. Reverb on certain snare notes and the tamborine really do make a difference, don't you think? If you've ever heard a noise that sounded like a train during the train song, that's Bob, using the delay in a way that I can only dream of. Likewise, he is the one who adds a little (OK a lot) of extra low end to Robbie's vocal when necessary to make him sound as much like Barry White as any balding white Jew can. (BTW: There's a lot of love in that "balding white Jew", so don't worry, I'm not being mean when I write that.) Listen carefully to the end of the "Old Dominion" the next time you see a show (esp.with Bob mixing), and you'll hear what I'm talking about. I know it's not your fault that you forgot to credit Bob. He gets an intro from the band every night, but I am so much more visible (on stage and in the email) that people frequently give me credit for mixing everything. I am here to say that while Bob isn't quite as social with the fans at shows, he is the one responsible for giving EFO the "Larger than Life" (OK, "Larger than Folk") sound that they have now. He (and recently I) travels with the band to make them sound as good as the system/room will allow, during even the shortest of sets and on the smallest of stages. Next time you see a show, take a minute to see who is mixing. If it's Bob, please go tell him how much you appreciate his hard work and musicianship. He has been my best friend (aside from my boyfriend, Paul, whom you might have seen mixing Pat McGee Band shows) for the past five years and he is the one responsible for getting both Paul and I into doing sound. Thanks, Bob. And thanks to you, the reader, for listening. CB PS: A bootleg is an illegal recoding that someone has made to sell and profit from. A live recording is a recording made with permission from the band which will not EVER be sold for profit! Trading recordings is OK, but the traders should never make an actual profit. Geoff and I have traded recordings for other shows, blanks & postage, and cash, but we have never profited from these trades. The money you give for recordings is to cover tapes or discs, postage, mailers, wear & tear on the equipment, and a bit for us for the time it takes to make the copies. Terminology is everything! Please be careful when using the term "Bootleg". Thanks! In a message dated 98-12-14 20:15:26 EST, you write: << Just got the bootleg of the Handlebar, and am completely blown away by this cd! It is such an outstanding package, that it deserves a quick public note, along with a huge pat on the back to Geoff for putting it together. >> ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:49:37 -0500 From: john yoo Subject: Re: What about Bob? do any of you have the lyrics to "old dominion"? bob is the nicest guy- i agree. he doesn't do this anymore, but twice he's gone through the trouble of making me tape copies of BH shows. that took a lot of his time. i'll always be grateful for that. johnny yoo ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 11:46:29 EST From: EFOcrew@aol.com Subject: EFO/PMB: Tape tree advice, please Hello Edheads and Identities! Carolyn (one of EFO's engineers and occassionally PMB's monitor engineer) here. EFO has recently ended a long running string of weekly Tuesday shows. There were a record number of tapers there to catch this awesome show - 20! I am looking for some advice on how to administer a tape/CD tree and possibly a sample application so we can get this show out. I have a feeling that there will be a lot of "leaves", but fortunately, there seem to be quite a few people willing to help make copies. Any assistance would be GREATLY appreciated. Well, I'm off to read some more in the Taper FAQ page. Thanks! CB PS: Anyone willing to help make copies, please email me (EFOcrew@aol.com) and I will pass your name & email on to the tree administrator. Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:03:58 -0500 From: john.stanmeyer@us.pwcglobal.com Subject: Last Bad Habits Show Anybody of the 15-20 tapers at the last Bad Habits show willing to make a copy for a SASE & a blank tape? Also, for those who couldn't make it, here's the set list to my knowledge... (sorry if this has already been posted--I'm brand new to the list)... thanks, John Pirate's Patch Bookends Eight Miles High (Byrds) Imagine Me I Found Love (Bonnnie Raitt) Wake Up Vanessa Galileo (Indigo Girls) Not Fade Away (Dead) Mama Tried (Merle Haggard) Gravity Charlie Brown She's Hot to Go Three Fine Daughters of Farmer Brown If I Had a Boat Rowboat to Rio I am Yours, You are Mine (Crosby Stills Nash & Young?) Eddie's Drum Solo Little Drummer Boy Very Short Fuse, Rain Work Week Song The Lion Sleeps Tonight Movin' On Up (Jefferson's Theme Song) Old Dominion (Sweet Sweet Virginia) Change (Fishbone) This My Town Operator Let Me Be (Elvis) Shake Shake Shake Senora (Harry Bellafonte) Love and Fire (Indigo Girls) August (Simon and Garfunkel) What's Going On (4 Non Blondes) Stupid American Friend of the Devil (Dead) New James Bond Hold On Me Over the Hills and Far Away/Going to California (LZ) State of Affairs (Blues Traveler) Hole in My Heart (Extreme) Lifeguard Stand Conjuction Junction/I'm Just a Bill Train Song (with Sound of Music and Country Roads in the middle) I Need a Man Me and Julio (S&G) True Love - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:31:12 -0500 From: "Dennis Lovelady" Subject: Re: EFO/PMB: Tape tree advice, please Hi, CB: >There were a record number of tapers there to catch this awesome show - 20! I >am looking for some advice on how to administer a tape/CD tree and possibly a >sample application so we can get this show out. I have a feeling that there >will be a lot of "leaves", but fortunately, there seem to be quite a few >people willing to help make copies. Any assistance would be GREATLY >appreciated. Well, I'm off to read some more in the Taper FAQ page. I'm sorry I can't help with admin advice (just take a look at my desk, and you'll agree) but I will be happy to be one of the branches in that tree. I do not have DAT, but I do have a CD-R, and could punch off a few copies here. I wasn't in attendance, so cannot be a root. HTH - -- Dennis Lovelady Simpsonville, SC mail: dennis@lovelady.com URL: http://lovelady.piedmont.net ICQ: 5734860 - -- "We do not stop playing because we are old. We grow old because we stop playing." - Anon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 12:42:49 -0500 From: john yoo Subject: Re: Last Bad Habits Show some things about the set list: did they not do "cleo and tony" after "not fade away"? (i'm not sure) "work week song" is actually "blue jeans" "love and fire" is "blood and fire" "what's going on" is "what's up" "hole in my heart" is "hole hearted" "conjunction junction/i'm just a bill" - and the rest of their "schoolhouse rock" medley don't mean to pick apart the list. just being anal about it. the setlist put together is very much appreciated - and this is the first i'm seeing a set list for the final tuesday. thanks, johnny yoo john.stanmeyer@us.pwcglobal.com wrote: > Anybody of the 15-20 tapers at the last Bad Habits show willing to make a > copy for a SASE & a blank tape? Also, for those who couldn't make it, > here's the set list to my knowledge... (sorry if this has already been > posted--I'm brand new to the list)... thanks, John > > Pirate's Patch > Bookends > Eight Miles High (Byrds) > Imagine Me > I Found Love (Bonnnie Raitt) > Wake Up Vanessa > Galileo (Indigo Girls) > Not Fade Away (Dead) > Mama Tried (Merle Haggard) > Gravity > Charlie Brown > She's Hot to Go > Three Fine Daughters of Farmer Brown > If I Had a Boat > Rowboat to Rio > I am Yours, You are Mine (Crosby Stills Nash & Young?) > Eddie's Drum Solo > Little Drummer Boy > Very Short Fuse, Rain > Work Week Song > The Lion Sleeps Tonight > Movin' On Up (Jefferson's Theme Song) > Old Dominion (Sweet Sweet Virginia) > Change (Fishbone) > This My Town > Operator > Let Me Be (Elvis) > Shake Shake Shake Senora (Harry Bellafonte) > Love and Fire (Indigo Girls) > August (Simon and Garfunkel) > What's Going On (4 Non Blondes) > Stupid American > Friend of the Devil (Dead) > New James Bond > Hold On Me > Over the Hills and Far Away/Going to California (LZ) > State of Affairs (Blues Traveler) > Hole in My Heart (Extreme) > Lifeguard Stand > Conjuction Junction/I'm Just a Bill > Train Song (with Sound of Music and Country Roads in the middle) > I Need a Man > Me and Julio (S&G) > True Love > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged > material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or > taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received > this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any > computer. ------------------------------ End of edheads-digest V1 #119 *****************************