From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #230 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, June 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 230 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: Calling it Off. [DPS8315@aol.com] ET: RE: .....Angels Write the Best Punchlines... [Jason Vierling ] ET: Re: billy corgan [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] Re: ET: Beauty: A Poem ["Kerry Ekenstam" ] ET: still floating on a crooked heart ["Kerry Ekenstam" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:27:15 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: ET: Calling it Off. If you're out there in EDA land, I'm calling back the reserves..everyone get some sleep and we'll never sort it out in the morning... I am a direct participant.. perchance a catalyst in the affair and I'd like to withdraw my resources. Follow the trail. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 06:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Vierling Subject: ET: RE: .....Angels Write the Best Punchlines... From the recent post by Dennis "Lab Rat" Harris....... > 5) What is going on here? ........Frankly, the >content is largely depressing. It's not that they are >bad posts, just that they are mediocre >posts with little substance or inspiration. This is >one music fan discussion list that should transcend >the usual celebrity blather -- if not, please drop >the "everyday angels" moniker, because the concept of >those words is far too important to trivialize with >celebrity worship and thoughtless use! I think that Dennis' perspective on the decline toward mediocrity of the posts on this list is an increasingly unique one. Now this is not to say that I do or do not agree with his opening statements, but rather that I see that his lengthy tenure here on this list has given him a longer view as to how this list has evolved/declined/renewed itself over the years. I have often agreed with his views and shared his hopes for the continuation of the spirit of what Jewel saw in this body of people when she termed us to be EveryDay Angels (way back when). On the other hand, I know that for many, involvement with this list is temporary or even cyclical to the degree that many of our current list members have only the memory of how the list functions now in regards to posting and activites to assess what the worth of the term/moniker EveryDay Angels should be. I have asked myself many times over if what I have learned/shared/meant as a member of this list who looks a little deeper into the term EveryDay Angel. Is this just a catchy "brand-name" for a mailing list that is now primarily a discussion list for a celebrity (despite whatever it might have once been) or is this a body of people connected (even if fleetingly) by the (to paraphrase Dennis) philosophy behind the art of a commonly inspiring musician? Have those of us that share the longer view (or remembrance if you will) of this journey decided what being an EveryDay Angel means and shared this with our new friends? Is there a purpose to this list that is above the exchange of basic (even banal) Jewel trivialities? What do you all think? Is as Dennis wrote the "concept of those words far too important to trivialize with celebrity worship and thoughtless use" or should those of here be content that EveryDay Angels is a merely a descriptive term for someone who belongs to Jewels unoffical internet fan club? I feel that there is a nobler purpose implied by the acceptance of the title of EveryDay Angel, but I wonder at times if this is to much to attribute to a simple internet mailing list. I would like to say that I have found my life enriched by this mailing list, but the ultimate truth is that this is not the case. This mailing list has been a pivotal tool in the course of the past few years of my life, but it was the PEOPLE on this list, the very ones most deserving of the term EveryDay Angels ,that have been the blessing of my time here. These mailing lists are mere conduits , tethers made intially amongst strangers established by the appreciation for music. What each person who embraced the implications of being an EveryDay Angel feels that means no doubt varies from person to person. I have found amongst the members of this list a diverse body of friends and experiences that have enriched my life beyond measure. I have come from a lurker on this list to a organizer of events and fun I would have never imagined. I have shared my home, my passions, my marriage, my new family, and I have never once regretted the effort it has taken to do so simply for the fact that (for the most part) my extended family of EDAs have never failed to unselfishly do so with their lives. So I guess the main questions I have for all of you still with this rambling oratory are these... What is the value/meaning/worth of the label/term EveryDay Angel as applies to your life or perhaps how you think it should? and/or What do you think that it implies as a phrase if you personally find that it seems to carry a bit more weight than a level of fandom? Please feel free to post or reply to me directly as you see fit. Take Care Angels, Jason V __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:22:41 GMT From: "Dani(elle) Silveri" Subject: ET: oh my goodness oh my goodness If you ever wonder why there are so many lurkers..... this would be the reason why. don't you people have anything better to do? Name calling will get you no where.... What if we have newbies... is this the message you want to send? Come forth.. come forth and thrash.. Dani(elle) *Otaku for Hire* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:36 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: billy corgan In a message dated 6/13/00 9:04:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << hey guys, i read recently that billy corgan had publicly said he was giving up the "good fight" in regard to the direction the music industry is taking, i.e. BRITNEY SPEARS, and was wondering if anyone else heard about this and knows what he actually said. very interested. oh, and isn't $17 million a bit high? ;) >> Yes, he did say something to that effect. It's true, it is dicouraging making music that really means something, that's really art, and watch a whole legion of weak-minded mainstream music buyers eat up corporate bullshit like Korn, Britney Spears, Limp Bizkit, Backstreet Boys and all that trash. I think Smashing Pumpkins have paid their dues. They really helped broaden the bases of alternative radio rock (which is a far cry from the brilliance of indie stuff in the form of 4AD Records and the like). They were really the most original band to emerge from the post-Nirvana suprise succes of a lot of alternative bands (considering that a lot of those groups sound so much like Pearl Jam/Nirvana). At any rate, I don't think Corgan was saying he's giving up, he's just weary of it. At some point I'm sure you're just ready to hang up your guns and say "we've really done something". later Joe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:00:06 MDT From: "Kerry Ekenstam" Subject: Re: ET: Beauty: A Poem WHAT AN amZinG poem! I am Moved. Keep it up kerry ~*~**~*~ From: JewelAng@aol.com To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org, 00000Bryan@egroups.com, -1@egroups.com, dhalaas@pressenter.com, GenerationNoise@aol.com Subject: ET: Beauty: A Poem Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:55:06 EDT Of all poems, I don't need criticism on this one. Nice things would be wanted, but this one is a little too close to take a beating. Rebecca Trying to find beauty: Beauty lies in my blue eyes, my blue hair, the wide hips I've come to hate, my round white stomach, and my mother's same legs, the full lips that hold crooked teeth. My beauty is found in my love for art, my romantic notions, my big feet, my small hands, the beauty in understanding my cunt, the beauty in being able to say the word cunt without feeling dirty. I find beauty in my breasts that are too small for my nipples, I find beauty in being able to write my beauty even when I know that beauty is inside. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:14:14 MDT From: "Kerry Ekenstam" Subject: ET: still floating on a crooked heart HeLLo AngelS It makes me sad to see all the bickering but I suppose it is part of bieng alive and knowing another person. I don't all the way understand where it originated but, I hope to see it leave soon. If we do not open our hearts we cannot see the world. I dunno...Im babbling useless things I suppose =0) I'm floating. I've been floating for the last month (to be exact we should add 2 days). I've realized that love is formed more quickly then I could ever understand, and it is best when not sought out and wanted. LOve at first conversation...=0) It just makes me smile. Im a changed woman, for the better, and for the rest of my life. YeAh =0) HA Ha Here's some more sappy love poems Be Friendly the world will not wait for you to smile Kerry B.T.W ~ COURTNEY ~ I want to say thank you for all the help you gave me when I sought for your advice about bieng molested when I was younger. I sought for my heart and looked to what I thought now and understood everything you say. I find everyday to be a new day and my smile to reach my face on each one of those blessings. Your wonderful. you still have my admiration. Keep writing... **~**~**~** I love the way you move the way your skin curves to fit every shape of your body the way it feels to run my fingers across your body were i a painter you would be the canvass for my soul creation of happiness and love ~^~ ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 19:17:45 EDT From: Angeljlr98@aol.com Subject: ET: hallo there I just wanted to let everyone know (those who might be interested, anyway) that I updated my webpage and everyone should go see it. I have this cute little survey thing that I added to the bottom which EVERYONE should do. I'll be very upset if you don't, and the answers get sent straight to me, so I'll know! I updated the Unsung In Your Eyes (updates) page a lot, and added little things to Been Down So Long (quotes), added Lane's site to the Fish Family (my friends), added some pics to the Tiny Love Spaces (pics) page, and a few other things...just go look, will ya? ;-) You can get there 1 of 3 ways: http://www.fly.to/grey-matter http://www.go.to/grey-matter http://members.tripod.com/jamieangel/grey-matter Just in case one doesn't work, I have back-up =) Um, Sean and Laney, Could I get you both to fill out that cheesy ass survey that's on my fish family pages? Jon...I must've been really mad at you (I guess that goes without saying) because I deleted every trace of your webpage =( I suck. I'ma redo it. Sam, I need a damn pic of you, girl!!!! Okay I'm done =) Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:38:57 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: The Creation of an Alien Diety(poem) Hey there :) I was just being like creative and stuff today and watching Toy Story 2 sorta made me think of aliens. hehe I don't blame you if you don't like this but it's just a creative thing...no seriousness :) Let me know what you think if you want :) Also if you don't want my poems anymore, let me know and I won't send them to you anymore. It's all fine :) Take care of yourselves and Have a Great Day! :o) -Seth ======================================================== The Creation of an Alien Diety by Seth D. Fulmer 6-14-00 That fire in the skyline turns meteor in my backyard The little creatures coming out of it They scream at me "You are God" I listen to their cries I don the cloak and halo I feel incredibly guilty though because I am merely mortal I can not save their space ship I can't even save my life But the status of god and meteor in my life It feels good so I do then keep it The time continues to pass by The meteor still is there a week and half or two weeks The little aliens have built me a shrine It says "We love you, God Seth" The females want to take me I say "I am a 1 woman man" They reply "I don't care just kiss me" After all of this occured, I realize they gotta go I consult with the government, and the many world space agencies to see what can be done to send them home One night I'm taken in my sleep, and hooked into their culture I feel their every move, even before they make it I can not bare to send them home, it hurts too much to try I want to just resign to being their God, But their home is so far from here I figure out a way to travel fast light speed or even by wormhole from Earth through the sun and Jupiter to visit their world around Saturn. But then they find out I talked to the space agencies to send them home They had the ability all along to do so They decided to worship me though in the meantime I said I could be their God in a few hundred years when technology decided to speed up to pace They said don't even come close to here or we'll blow you the hell out of the universe Well I told them to go and I gave them their gift a nuclear missile launched from every country and the ocean I put a bomb on board when I sabotaged their ship and 2 assassins were sent for when they landed home ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:35:38 -0700 (PDT) From: shell Subject: ET: american beauty Dear Angels, This post is kinda inspired because of Rebecca's poem about her own beauty... Brought back some memories. When I was younger, I was chubby until like 7th grade, and after that my body just did some kind of adjusting to itself thing where everything just all of a sudden started looking pretty damn nifty, but it didn't do any good really because I'd had no confidence at all in how I looked. I didn't notice until like the end of freshman year, that i didn't look nearly as bad as I thought I did. (I'll be a junior this year) I'm still not a size 8 cheerleader type... and I don't weigh 115 pounds, but I'm finally just happy with how i look. just thought i'd share this with yall. feel free to comment, good or bad. Court Bug "And if you think you should come to California, I think you should." _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #230 **********************************