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eda-thoughts-digest      Wednesday, June 14 2000      Volume 03 : Number 229




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                               Today's Subjects:
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  Re: ET: un-ex-pec-tad-lie                                [Reecord2@aol.com]
  ET: soccer--                               [shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>]
  ET: billy corgan's comments                [shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>]
  ET: Re: eeeek                                      [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com]
  ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)    [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com]
  ET: what's wrong with koRn?                [shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>]
  ET: Re: soccer                                     [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com]
  ET: Re: piles of dead leaves, warm and glowing feel from the trees....  [R]
  Re: ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)  [shivergirl <tstevens]
  ET: Beauty:  A Poem                                      [JewelAng@aol.com]
  Re: ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)  [RedWoodenBeads@aol.c]

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:01:27 EDT
From: Reecord2@aol.com
Subject: Re: ET: un-ex-pec-tad-lie

<<you say
you stole my heart
but
shhhhhhh
i let you have it>>

Brilliant!!  Simply Briliant.  K anway, bye

~~Me

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:33:16 -0400
From: shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>
Subject: ET: soccer--

football--whatever the hell you boys are calling it depending on geography.
who says it's not important, dr. romeantic?? it may be another ridiculous sport,
but they go back a long way, they've got meaning and cultural value and all that
shit.... :)
and besides, england lost their match, and that sure as hell made my day yesterday.
;)

(and i'm glad the devils won too)

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:37:55 -0400
From: shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>
Subject: ET: billy corgan's comments

hey guys,
i read recently that billy corgan had publicly said he was giving up the "good
fight" in regard to the direction the music industry is taking, i.e. BRITNEY SPEARS,
and was wondering if anyone else heard about this and knows what he actually said.
very interested.  oh, and isn't $17 million a bit high? ;)

and has anyone ever written they don't want comments??
jc.

I know there's rarely a moment when

> ridicule and criticism go hand in hand,

do you mean don't go hand in hand, dr.?

> but did you read reviews of A Night
> Without Armor???????? What was that... 1 in 2 were making fun of Jewel not just
> the poems and most of the time there wasn't a shred of objective criticism...

i agree, and i quite enjoyed them.

> I
> do agree that even though she was a teenager when she wrote those

all of them??

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:31:50 EDT
From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com
Subject: ET: Re: eeeek

In a message dated 6/13/00 6:26:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 01:13:35 EDT
 From: DPS8315@aol.com
 Subject: Re: ET: Re: vampire (Joe's Defense)
 
    Joe, I dont like you.  On a scale of one to ten I dont like you about 8.>

Wow, so much energy put into not liking someone you've never even met. Maybe 
you should try to find some people out there in the real world to not like.
 
> you irritate me when I think about it.. but aside from that, I dont care if 
 you're dead, alive, or barely breathing.<

Oooooooh. What a cool, cynical, world-weary, hip dude you are. I don't ever 
think about you, so there's a contrast.
 
 >On the other hand, I do believe.. and although this may be a stretch..  I 
 think your "so is the world" comment may have been a bonafide acceptance of 
 what maggie was saying- that the world is indeed a lonely, blood thirsty 
 place-
 
 my stretch being that you could have actually been extending her original 
 metaphor-  the lonliness is a vampire, that the world is a vampire, hence 
the 
 world is a lonely place
 
 or at least that's how a willing participant in an intellectual forum might 
 react-  i've noticed however, and I may be wrong on this too, that Maggie, 
 you are a bit overzealous...  a little too defensive when it comes to any 
 comment whatsoever, irregardless whether it is based in sarcasm or a more 
 amiable constructive criticism, you've got serious issues.
 
 Joe, I hope you don't disappoint my valiant defense. >>

I agree. Anyone who react so rediculously to such a comment is trully, as one 
might say, retarded. Kind of like people who think KoRn is innovative.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:38:01 EDT
From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com
Subject: ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)

In a message dated 6/13/00 6:26:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< 
      And here we see plainly the reason why I do not even try to write 
 poetry.  :)  I didn't consider the whole metaphor thing, and thought he was 
 making an oblique reference to "Bullet With Butterfly Wings," by Smashing 
 Pumpkins, whose first line is, "The world is a vampire / sent to drain...">>>

I was
 
    >>>>  Is it worth flipping out over, either way?  I don't think so.  As 
all 
 the literature here at my company notes...  "Past performance is no 
 guarantee of future results."  Just because Joe made some comments, once 
 upon a time, that were nasty and/or rude, does not mean that every time he 
 says something he's being mean, petty, and spiteful.<<<<

I was never rude
 
     >>>> Do I like Joe?  Nah, not especially.  Do I want him to be my 
drinking 
 buddy?  No way.  Do I think there may be a little TOO MUCH being read into 
 this last comment from him?  You bet.
  >>

I find it amazing, how everyone I know loves me but little computer nerds 
like kevin and james don't. Funny.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:45:19 -0400
From: shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>
Subject: ET: what's wrong with koRn?



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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:41:12 EDT
From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com
Subject: ET: Re: soccer

In a message dated 6/13/00 6:26:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes:

<< I know it's not important, but still there's no way to describe how 
devastated I
 am and most of our little country. As some of you may know I come from a 
small
 young country called Slovenia and last year we succeeded in qualifying for
 European Soccer Championships 2000 that was the biggest team sport success in
 our history, where everybody has written us off as complete outsiders. In
 England bets were 200-1 against our country winning the championship, which 
of
 course was mot realistic to expect, but we aren't accidentally there. And 
just
 about half an hour ago our first match finished. We played Yugoslavia and
 humiliated them, dominated the field and were leading 3:0, 20 minutes into 
the
 second half. And then suddenly something gave... and 7 minutes later it was 
3:3.
 Fireworks that were exploding around here like it was New Year's Eve, 
suddenly
 stopped and nobody could believe what just happened. The rest of the match we
 were better again, but the score hasn't changed. It was the historic event, 
that
 could've and should've ended so gloriously, but it was too good to be true. 
I'm
 not gonna get over this for a while, unless we win one of our next 2 matches,
 which will be even harder after this disaster. Realisticly if we were 
offered a
 draw, before the game we would take it, but after being the superior team for
 over 9/10 of the game and leading by 3 we can't help but feel disappointed 
even
 though scoring a point on such a huge event is a big deal, but this time we 
lost
 2 even though Yugoslav team were the favorites. I guess it's called
 experience... I don't know.
 Sorry to bug yall, I just had to get it off my chest and this is the only 
place
 I know... >>

Whoa. I can trully understand how dissapointed you were. I was just in 
Germany and I know how enthusiastic a lot of folks are about soccer (football 
if you're in Europe) and that must of been some let down.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:44:35 EDT
From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com
Subject: ET: Re: piles of dead leaves, warm and glowing feel from the trees....

In a message dated 6/13/00 6:26:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes:

<<  I agree that we should stick together
 and help and support eachother... but comments on the other's work are 
essential
 regardless of their nature. 99% of the time there is at least a shred of 
truth
 behind them! True, nobody ripped apart even one of my poems yet, even though 
it
 would be refreshing to get a few pointers... but..... I won't beg for it! 
:))))) >>

I would like to say, I cannot believe the fuss this has caused. I was simply 
quoting a line from a band I like, I wasn't even commenting on the poem.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:49:58 -0400
From: shivergirl <tstevens@ican.net>
Subject: Re: ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)

> k, where's that from then?



>
>
> I find it amazing, how everyone I know loves me but little computer nerds
> like kevin and james don't. Funny.

i don't love you, joe. but i'm sure you're still alive. <g>and lil pewter nerds
are the last adjectives i would wrap around 10k james and
voice-of-reason-lucky-boston-dweller-kev.

(even if james doesn't appreciate my emails ;)

+

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:55:06 EDT
From: JewelAng@aol.com
Subject: ET: Beauty:  A Poem

Of all poems, I don't need criticism on this one.  Nice things would be 
wanted, but this one is a little too close to take a beating.

Rebecca


Trying to find beauty:

Beauty lies in
my blue eyes,
my blue hair,
the wide hips I've come to hate,
my round white stomach,
and my mother's same legs,
the full lips
that hold crooked teeth.
My beauty is found 
in my love for art,
my romantic notions,
my big feet,
my small hands,
the beauty in understanding
my cunt,
the beauty in being able to say 
the word cunt 
without feeling dirty.
I find beauty in my 
breasts that are too small
for my nipples,
I find beauty 
in being able to write
my beauty 

even when I know that beauty is inside.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:56:07 EDT
From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com
Subject: Re: ET: Re: when you wake (you're still in a dream)

In a message dated 6/13/00 8:45:35 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
tstevens@ican.net writes:

<< > k, where's that from then?
 
 
 
 >
 >
 > I find it amazing, how everyone I know loves me but little computer nerds
 > like kevin and james don't. Funny.
 
 i don't love you, joe. but i'm sure you're still alive. <g>and lil pewter 
nerds
 are the last adjectives i would wrap around 10k james and
 voice-of-reason-lucky-boston-dweller-kev. >>

I just find it strange that everyone likes me in real life and people on this 
internet list get offended by my strong personality and what not.

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