From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #184 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, May 4 2000 Volume 03 : Number 184 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ET: UGH! ["~* cymbaline *~" ] ET: drinking my life away with food [Katherine Alexandra ] ET: Re: abuse of alcohol [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: ummmmmmmm [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: is that a promise? [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #183 [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: alcohol [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: Jesus and wine [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: ani and abortion [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 22:21:19 GMT From: "~* cymbaline *~" Subject: Re: ET: UGH! >Words for the wise, don't every marry a guy. They're dicks. DOn't date one, >don't marry one, don't look at them if you can help it. LOL.... I could have told you THAT! (no offense, guys) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:59:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Katherine Alexandra Subject: ET: drinking my life away with food personaly i think this whole drinking thing is a bit childish. yes, i drink wine with my sister and friends at night. my dad and i will have a glass of wine or guinesse to talk. this is with maturity, with age, with experiance, but it's not EVIL. its like money, money is NOT evil. techonology is NOT evil. sex is NOT evil. drinking is NOT evil. THE ABUSE OF IT IS. and yes, i do know alcholism first hand and i know what it can do to a family, but please remember it's not always the drinking that is tearing things apart. THE DRINKING SOMETIMES IS A SYMPTOM THAT THINGS ARE GOING WRONG, THAT SOMETHING HAPPENED. i just believe that it's up to you, to be a mature adult and decide on what you want to.you have to look at things rationaly as well as emotionaly. by saying, "i have seen alchol destroy my family therefore all alchol use is evil", or a statement similar to that is pure ignorance. there are many sides to the story. you dont have to drink if you dont want to, but remember it's a person's CHOICE. and yes good does come from drinking, i'm sure that's how lot of us have been concieved (JOKE), but also another good thing, wine with dinner is wonderful. if any of you cook you know how important wine is to a good meal, too cooking, to most delicious recipes. don't be naive towards something like that. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 19:25:47 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: I want to go to heaven(poem) Hey everyone, I wrote this last night but didn't want to make it seem like I was suicidal...I may have been thinking it but I have more levels than just one in my mind..I wouldn't have done it yet. Anyhow, Here's this poem. If you don't want it, just let me know. Take care and Have a Great Day!! -Seth ============================================ I want to go to heaven by Seth D. Fulmer 5-2-00 I want to die and go to heaven The brochure looks nice Much better than Florida or California or France Nice tall towers Angellic Boulevards Cars drive on clouds Roads that you simply ride Hell can be watched on a bigscreen TV with free wings and beer for all Those devils can really beat those saints But only when it's football season Life is not so simple The people are not nice They appear to be so nice to you only for you to hear they fucked you The alcohol and drugs and knives in the street The sexual diseases downtown or even by my doorstep A little old woman needs help with her walker So when I help her she kicks me in the shin This drug store here sounds like it could be a very fun place The pharmicist could be bribed with a nickel or even less if you're a woman Give me some morphine Some heroine with nicotine a little white powder or even a black liquid I need to go to heaven on a golden carpet with as little pain as I can afford Just numb me all up Make me feel nothing Disconnect my brain's neurons and play volleyball with it Kick me around and play with my lobes Douse me with gasoline and let loose some flames Go ahead and throw that knife Stick it in my chest See what I care! I'll see Heaven post haste! In heaven I can be myself I can hide or be social If I don't want to be found Lord knows nobody will find me. The universe is my playground The planets are my balls The stars are my fans and I am a loser. Give me that Vodka and now give me those pills Vodka and codeine, down the hatch with some Kool Aid. Next day I wake up The world is all bright Clouds are below me and I am all bloody The doctors disected me to see what was wrong Why did my heart just decide to stop beating? I don't want to think about it I just want to sleep The light from the lantern is giving me a headache But that must mean I'm still alive laying here on planet Earth Dammit all to hell How do I get to chill? I need to get to heaven Just get me there right now! Dammit just stop playing I'm not kidding, don't test me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 15:51:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Katherine Alexandra Subject: ET: a jumble of words a jumble of words. SHE she doesn't smile much anymore. except for that manic laugh. she tends to keep quiet, stay out of the picture, allow time to heal the wounds. she lost that spark back in 89, it hasn't been the same and it's not coming back. she worries about the time, her spice cabinet and if he's gonna come back tonight. sitting there in her one room apartment, she takes her last hit. and i wonder why it is that i am just standing there, waiting for that spark to come back. the humanization of who i am-an apology we used to talk for hours, nothing in particular. you would brush back my hair or tell me stories for your past. i was passionate about your beauty, wanting it to rub off onto my skin. but now there is silence and awkward pauses. i now know you no longer see in me what you once did. i know my laughter is no longer singing to your ears, but more of a worry to you. my greatness has faded into the reality of who i am, and i can tell by the way you say my name, you are tierd of this humanization of me. the truth behind why i am leaving. it started by counting down the years, when i was 7. there were too many ahead of me so i waited, got a little distracted, but went back counting at 16. lost my way around the corner, took the long road back home, and it all turned into counting down the months. allowing the calender to take it's course, convinced may would never come. somehow from there to here, i'm counting away the hours until i leave this place. i've never been really good at counting,but i can feel it gaining up on me. now i'm not really sure, why i started counting in the first place, but i knew there was a reason, so i'm going to be leaving. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:00:25 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: abuse of alcohol In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << but don't let my rants and bitching stop anyone from drinking.. alcohol has done nothing but cause deaths,accidents, abuse, neglect, and humiliation in my family and it's history.. it has affected me beyond belief and i don't drink at all... I've had a cousin die because of it I've felt the abuse physically when i was younger from it.. and lots of other things that i refuse to talk about.. >> So you think alcohol itself caused these problems? Wrong, Abuse of alcohol caused this. Just like abuse of a screw driver can cause someone to lose an eye. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:18:50 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: ummmmmmmm In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << you are so fucking ignorant.. >>> i guess some of us should kill our selves in moderation >> Um, whoa man, let's get our priorities straight here. Alcohol doesn't kill people unless they drink it ALL the time. Getting up in the morning and mixing a shot with your tomato juice, that's an alcoholic, not a family sitting around a table sipping wine. Alcohol is NOT a problem. Abortion, Euthenasia, Tyraanical governments in Cuba, those are the problems. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:19:49 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: is that a promise? In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << Words for the wise, don't every marry a guy. They're dicks. DOn't date one, don't marry one, don't look at them if you can help it. >> Guys, you can all breathe easy now! She has promised to leave us alone! YES!!!!!! {Leaps around filled with intense joy} no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:19:43 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #183 In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << Oh, and top it all off, my boyfriend is being a dick. He's all whiney and pissed off at me because I've gone goth. I'm not wearing black dresses and such everywhere, and i won't dress that way around him because he doesn't like it, and the boy is 17 frikkin years old, and he's litterally whining about it! >> {Stamps foot and puts hands on hips while making a pouty face}. Gee, when will we goths get our well deserved respect!!!!!!!! no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:19:05 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: alcohol In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << >i hope someone dear to you dies from alcohol poisoning or something related >to drugs or alcohol.. then maybe it will start to set in... >> Well my grandpa died from choking on potato chips, and I can honestly say, I do not hold potato chips nor the pringles company in contempt for it. And I'm not making fun of you, I really am not! I have family who have suffered from alcoholism, most notably one of my aunts, but I can tell you right now, it isn't thw alcohol that does it, it's the alcoholic. That's like saying all kitchen knives kill people. No, some people stab with them, others chop vegetables. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:18:59 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: Jesus and wine In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << Ever wonder why you like alcohol? does it taste good?.. I usually don't drink bitter things. the coke i buy isn't bitter.. neither is the cool-aid... maybe they should start making pine rosin flavored cool-aid.. > or horse piss tea.. I find the taste of beer and wine quite refreshing. Pop is the real enemy. Pop is filled with caffine. Pop is what you should be mad about. >as far as what Jesus drank.. I don't really believe in all that stuff I have not seen enough proof.. the bible contradicts itself on the very first page. >were you there when he drank it? >> Yes there is proof. You don't think written recipes have survived? Jesus drank wine. It's a fact. Yet anothet reason to love the guy. Here's someone who recognizes the evil of hurting your fellow man, and likes wine. I have to admit, Buhhda, never got there. Jesus was right on. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 23:20:37 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: ani and abortion In a message dated 5/3/00 3:23:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 09:11:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Katherine Alexandra Subject: ET: ani and abortion this is one of my favorite ani songs..thought i would put down the lyrics, sense we have been talking about indie stuff and abortion...awesome news, i get to see ani live in new orleans this saturday :) i'm happy >> I know a lot of people like Ani's lyrics, but I find them rather poor. Too self-focused. That's just my opinion, I know tons of people disagree. I do like Ani, quite a bit in fact, and I think what she has done in independant music is tremendous. But as far as her musicianship, I think she's somewhat overated. I mean, she is a very good guitarist, she has a real different playing style, but her voice isn't that good and while she has written good stuff, she's written a lot of mediocre stuff too. Anyways, that's just my two cents...... no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #184 **********************************