From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #150 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Friday, April 21 2000 Volume 03 : Number 150 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: laying it to rest [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: Re: you'r shameless ["Kevin B. Pease" ] ET: "Kill Yourself" ["~* cymbaline *~" ] ET: (no subject) [Cassidy831@aol.com] Re: ET: Re: you'r shameless [DPS8315@aol.com] ET: Joe, this for you. [DPS8315@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:52:00 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: laying it to rest Well folks, I thank you for debating with me. It is trully a good thing, debate, for it keeps the mind on its toes. I have decided to put an end to this, because so many of the posts I have received have been rude as well as intolerant. When I simply reacted to them in a similar way, to point out their rediculousness in a way, I was accused of the same behavior, which is trully quite laughable. Sigh, I suppose I could point out examples of all of this, but as they say, life is too short... Tara (or Kara, I don't remember her name) made a remark that we "don't need all these people" in the world. In fact, she said we REALLY don't need them. This is a very anti-life statement. I simply proposed the thought that she could end her own life, and set an example of solving this horrible problem which will one day destroy mankind itself. Hey, maybe we could have mass suicides! Wouldn't that help end this wretched "overpopulation" dilema. I have expressed opinions very different from your many expressed here. From the very beginning I have been abused about it, and so it is obvious that no one here is interested in discussing anything, because everyone here already knows everything. I imagined at least most of you would like some color on this list, but I suppose I was wrong. Many people here claim to be open-minded, when in reality I have met some of the most close-minded people I have ever met in my life. Geez, you're worse than the freaking pensticostals. Ofcourse I am not addressing the above comments to everyone on this list. You who it is directed towards know who you are. =) Alright, so, looks like I have to go get ready for a guitar lesson tonight, so I will be going now. Oh, and I won't be responding to any more of your posts. I feel as though I am speaking to stones. Ok, everyone have a great Easter, and take care! Joe no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:56:04 -0400 From: "Kevin B. Pease" Subject: ET: Re: Re: you'r shameless RedWoodenBeads@aol.com writes: > Hmm, I haven't had trouble being my own person since I was 13. Perhaps you > are still struggling with that. Strangely enough, Joe, I don't see somebody being his own person. What I see is a petulant little boy convincing himself that he's a "real man" because he can piss off some girls by calling them names and pulling their hair. That's pretty entry-level, Joe. I have a 4 year old nephew who's better at it than this. If you're going to be your own person, you could at least try being a decent, considerate one. It might be a refreshing change for you, who knows? Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 03:23:09 GMT From: "~* cymbaline *~" Subject: ET: "Kill Yourself" You know... joking or not, that should never be something you say to someone! How do you know the person you're saying it to in completely stable? Hmmm...?? Sme people might be so depressed and down on themselves, that they'd actually follow through w/ a comment like that. I remember a time when I so SO depressed, and wanted to die, that if someone told me to kill myself, I probably would have! Don't get me wrong, I tried without anyone telling me to. But I *was* so messed up, so depressed, that when a girl handed me a knife and dared me to cut myself, I did. I took the knife and repeatedly slashed my arm, straight faced, right in front of her. so never say anything like that to someone! its a horrible thing to say and wish upon someone, and you never know... they might actually follow through w/ your request. Peace, Cym ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:23:45 EDT From: Cassidy831@aol.com Subject: ET: (no subject) ~I just have a few points. ~1) Titleing a post where you address a religious belief "blah blah blah" is insulting in itself. ~2) God did not send a disease to the towns of Sodom and Gamora(sp?) he burned them to the ground, with the citizens in them. They were horrible people, NOT just gay people. Well, I have heard many different versions of the story. People are telling me to 'get my facts straight' but then they turn around and tell me what is exactly in the Bible....but you see everyone's story is different. I suppose I should just find out for myself! :o) My subject blah blah blah was not meant to be insulting. I was trying to say that my post was probably not much different from anyone elses. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:25:23 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Re: you'r shameless In a message dated 4/20/00 9:38:44 PM US Eastern Standard Time, RedWoodenBeads@aol.com writes: > never. ;)oops! but i'm a GIRL! i ferget! do girls do that??? can they think > that? > _do_ they think? > > Hmm, I suppose that is a legitimate question coming from some of the ladies > on this list. I'll say! I for one, do not think.. then again, I am not a lady... although I could be. ( I dont like high fives) > I know! How dare anyone have an opinion outside of yours! They should be > shipped to Cuba! again, james is second-ing this opinion.. > I have expressed opinions very different from your many expressed here. alright, and here, I'm going to commend the brilliant young man, for, if nothing else, being the one to stand up and speak for what he believes in... which, given their unpopularity, is a pretty remarkable thing.. maybe the presentation wasn't the best.. in fact, it sucked. I dont like the guy, we've never gotten along, but i for one know what it's like to be alienated on a list of ppl who think they know what they're talking about.. truth be told, I grew out of it.. moved up and moved on.. we all have places to grow, Joe, maybe this is one of yours. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 23:35:30 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: ET: Joe, this for you. well, not in his tone but in his attitude nonetheless In a message dated 4/20/00 10:25:19 PM US Eastern Standard Time, cymbaline76@hotmail.com writes: > I remember a time when I so SO depressed, and wanted to die, that if someone > told me to kill myself, I probably would have! I always thought the whole "pity me" suicide bit was a bunch of shit. Of course I've never been there, and that's where a lot of people would point to say, "you dont understand".. so maybe this is me reaching out for a deeper understanding. nonetheless, I've known a few rough times, where it seemed like I was fighting myself and the whole world, and the whole fucking thing seems like a big lopsided battle.. one of my closest friends periodically goes through this pensive depressed state where she looks like she's ..going to kill *someone* anyway... Suicide has never been the answer, it's only been that should-have-been-temporary-but-was-a-bit-too-permanent-solution that weak people turned to. I've stuck it out in my middle class suburban life, and although there have been *many* times I would've liked to slip out the backdoor into a warm, sunny field of emptiness&springtime, I've never said to myself, or to anybody else, I'd like to die... or I'm going to kill myself. Why? it's not because i'm some insensitive prick who things nothing in the world is so terrible that you could feel *that bad* about how things are, it's because no matter how dramatic I'd like to make my current predicament out to be, it's not that bad. plain and simple it's not that bad. If you're so weak minded that someone, completely unattached to your life, could tell you to kill yourself.. and you'd listen to them, well, I can't imagine that you have any bigger problems. there is no excuse for suicide. it is completely idiotic and uncalled for, and frankly I think that it is one of the sickest diseases of society. the weak succumb. suicide is bullshit. ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #150 **********************************