From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #134 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Saturday, April 15 2000 Volume 03 : Number 134 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: Jesus [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #131 [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: What is Love? ["Seth D. Fulmer" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:34:46 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Jesus Jesus Christ, the man, had nothing. He wandered the streets simply loving his fellow man, and teaching others to love. Benny Hinn once said he has a suit for each day of the week. Let's not miss the point of what Jesus the man was going for. I don't think his major priorities were to have everyone meet at a building each Sunday, listen to long sermons or have televangelists get on T.V. and beg for money. Jesus Christ wanted men to be brothers. He wanted people to live in a state of peace. Let's remember that. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:56:46 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #131 In a message dated 4/14/00 6:24:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << > what is love??? >> Love. I think I have seen love a couple times in my life. Once I saw an old woman, climbing onto a bus with her husband, who was also very old with her. They must've been about 80. I saw him reach out for her hand, and help her climb onto the bus. That must've been love. One time my little cousin asked me "Joe, what do you want more than anything else in the world?" and I said "Well, I could use a nicer guitar amp, maybe a bigger marshall or something". I think I missed the point of his question. He said: "You know what I want?" and I said "What?" and he said "I want my mom to stop crying because her dad died". I used to work at a restaraunt. One time, when we closed, these guy who were life 30-something were all going to go out after-wards to some strip place. One of the guys said he wasn't going, and one of the guys who was going said "What's the matter Sean, are you afraid your wife will find out?" He said: "Well, if she ever knew I did that it would just hurt her so bad, I couldn't stand it" In the first situation I would say it's like the old couple's been together for so many years, they're completely devoted to eachother. They must've felt like giving up many times, but instead they chose to keep loving eachother. The next situation, my cousin loved his mom so much, he couldn't stand to see her suffer when my grandad died. All he wanted was for her to be happy. The final situation, the man couldn't stand for his wife to be hurt. The last thing he would ever want would be for her to be hurt. That's love. Love is really all we have. I mean, ultimately, if you don't have it, you end up alone. From love comes people, and from a family comes happiness. Even religion, which is so important to so many people, just plain can't even come close to love. Not even art, in all its glory can replace love. In the Sundays song "Love", there is a line that reads: "just love yourself like no one else". Really that says a lot too. You can only love others if at first you love who you are. Plus that, when you are alone, that's all you have. You have to love who you are, the person that you are. I have been a lucky person, as far as love from my family. I come from a really big extended family, and the love and support I've received from them has helped me walk through life in ways I cannot describe. In addition, the example of happiness, of love, of self-sacrafice, has made me realize how important the people who are closest to you are. As far as romantic love goes, well, I have experienced a lot of romance, but I would say the love I have now has been something so different and so wonderful I can't really describe it. There were times when I nearly threw it all away, in fact both of us have, but the thing is, it has never died, and it's only stronger now. I suppose it's true what they say, true love lasts. In a Cowboy Junkies song Margo says "Two people joined as one, if per chance one turns away, are they now all but lost forever". We've both turned away, once, but it never ended our love, and it's still strong and still there. So, I will be running now =) "so guilty with love" no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 23:52:10 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: What is Love? ><< > what is love??? >> Please note that for this email "you" is general and implies essentially the word "one". I define love in the most basic case as placing a value on something. You value your life...You love life. You value your mother, father, siblings, other family, pets...you love them. You value your significant other(boyfriend or girlfriend, husband or wife)...you love them. You value money, sex, affection, etc. hence you love them. You may say "I love so and so" but only when you've had time to learn to value that person. I don't think you can say "I love you" to a person until you've spent some time with them. If you meet someone and 2 days later you've only spoken a total of about 2 hours perhaps, it depends on what experiences you've been through but I doubt one can love another with such little time between them. Well I'm done my little paragraph. Take cares and Have a Great Day!! :o) Seth D. Fulmer mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #134 **********************************