From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #127 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, April 13 2000 Volume 03 : Number 127 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: jesus and sensationalism. [Katherine Alexandra ] ET: Insanity to Romance in a few easy steps ["Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: jesus and sensationalism. ok, i got a few questions...i think some of us basicaly agree that there is a "trend" going on, where the "pray hard" and billboards are basicaly making a buck from jesus' name, and aren't really for the faith (bc if they were, they would be going to charity organizations anyway),but this is the thing: why is this going on in the american culture?(i'm not sure about canadian, my bf says it's not nearly to the extent as it is in america. he didnt even know about the WWJD bracelets), i have some very good friends in england and i have spent a great deal of time there, and this isn't as much of a trend in their culture. and i know it's not in the rest of the european cultures.....sooo...why is this part of the american? is this just part of our sensationalism? our fasination with going over the top with things and making a few bucks? we are known for sensationalism with media, movies, everything...now with jesus? i'm not christian, but i'm not against christians, so please realize this isn't bashing christians, this is just questioning, challenging, making money from christianity. and how this is happening. i think kara is the one that said if you are in america and you dont know about christianity, the something strange is going on. it's a strong part of our culture, from the beginning....i really dont think these billboards are from pure, innocent, wanting to show people a brighter tomorrow...call me cynical, but it seems to be senationalism at our cultures highest. kat imperfect angel __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 07:22:28 EDT From: JewelAng@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: PLastic Jesus In a message dated 4/11/00 9:00:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Reecord2@aol.com writes: << plastic Jesus thing >> Got a plastic Jesus and a cordless telephone for every corner of my room..... Sorry, just had to sing and put that imput. haha Rebecca - -------------------------------- http://www.envy.nu/ophelia Ophelia Spins http://nettrash.com/users/majesticramblings .majestic.ramblings. http://www.envy.nu/souls Common hearts with common dreams (cliques) http://www.angelfire.com/yt/horns My horns keep up my halo (webring) - ----------------------------------- Into the night of the heart your name drops slowly and moves in silence and falls and breaks and spreads its water *Pablo Neruda* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:10:58 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: Re: ET: jesus and sensationalism. kat was asking about why the US has such a big christian movement as compared to other predominantly christian countries like england and canada... well, this might seem strange, but think about who founded this country. it was the puritans, right? all these religious people who wanted their freedom. they formed the basis of our country and they lent their religious morals to the founding of this nation. although many people say america doesn't have a "culture" per se as compared to maybe european countries with huge long histories, america nevertheless does have a culture and it's been largely influenced by puritan values. so... i don't mean to say that those of us now in the present day have necessarily inherited some sort of psychological patterning that makes a lot of people become "born again" etc, but maybe there's something about our very conception of the world (given to us by our culture) that makes americans more easily aligned to christian doctrine. we are, after all, still considered the puritan nation. people i know who come here from france are shocked at things like, for example, our movie ratings. over there, they'll show male frontal nudity and not blink an eye, not "rate" the movie to keep youths from watching it. but for most of us born and raised in the US, there's an ingrained that 10 year olds simply shouldn't be watching sexually explicit things in the movies, right? this country's religious background has influenced us in ways we don't realize, giving us unconscious beliefs that maybe, just maybe, lead people easily to obsessively embrace christianity. what do you guys think? i just thought of this as i was writing it, so i'm not trying to say this is fact or anything. i'm curious if you think it holds water. ben, i'm waiting for you to jump in on this too. :) ~kara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 08:36:29 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: Insanity to Romance in a few easy steps Hey everyone! Ok, a test trial...I wrote this a while ago with an absess of energy in my system. I started with the energy and ended up thinking of slow dancing and an evening of candlelight with someone. Nobody in particular though. I just wanted(and still do want) to slow dance soooo freakin' much! Oh well, c'est la vie. Take care and Have a Good Day!! -Seth ======================================== Insanity to Romance in a few easy steps by Seth D. Fulmer 4-5-00 A million different synapses firing every second One says to another God is she beautiful! You're talking to a house plant The other said to the one It's a Green African Violet But yeah it's a cute one A green one so you say? But Violets aren't Green I really can't help it My sunglasses are tinted These eyes and these ears That little puppy dog tail Shut up and stop drooling over the schnauzer next door But it's so freakin' cute and the music it plays on its guitar at night with it's girlfriend, the poodle Oh Do it to me baby do it baby just right Make me want to grab you by the fruit and flowers now Oh I need to calm down I could run a freakin' marathon I could run to California and back without a breather I want to go eat something But then I'd have to move Dear do you wanna get me a hotpocket or something to drink? I'll hand you a $50 bill Go get yourself as well whatever your heart desires or even a nice night gown Sexy lingerie, or even a bottle of wine a CD of slow dance music and the night will then be ours Insanity starts from energy and slows down to a crawl It ends where we are dancing Oh Baby you're the best You wonder where I've been all day I was out kicking people senseless Those who make your life miserable and those who were just being foolish I should really shut up now This is becoming incomprehensible But dear it's so fun when you talk your baby talk to me ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:44:37 -0700 From: "Platt, Caroline" Subject: RE: ET: roya's lovely question this is a very good answer, i thought of a different angle when i read it. perhaps the reason that people think so much "good" poetry, or rather poetry or expression that touches them, is the sad stuff is this: talking about pain is a bit more taboo than talking about joy, so perhaps poetry that does that stands out. and also perhaps gets expressed in poetry because it is conversational taboo.... or something. ;) caroline - -----Original Message----- From: kara garbe [mailto:lakini@virginia.edu] Sent: April 07, 2000 10:13 PM To: eda Subject: Re: ET: roya's lovely question about whether we have to be depressed to write... i think the thing is that the best writing tends to come out of deep, intense emotion, whatever that is. and i think, for me at least, that when i'm depressed i have more of a tendency to sit around feeling that feeling, digging into it and then spilling it back out onto paper. i think just as great stuff could come out of happiness, but when you're ecstatically happy, do you really sit around brooding about it? probably not. hm. maybe we should all try to mope around in happiness the same way we tend to mope in depression, and see if we can create some poems in celebration of life rather than in rejection of it... we can all use that sort of thing, both as writers and as readers... and there are a few people especially on this list who i think maybe could use a reminder like that. that life can be beautiful, almost unbearably so. but in a way that makes you want to bear it, forever. my heart goes out to everyone tonight. you people are beautiful. i'm going to go sit outside and write... it's finally warming up enough to do that. ~kara ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:05:56 -0500 From: zerocool@sunlink.net (Niki) Subject: Re: ET:it's not just Christianity From what I've read most of you think that this sensationalism is just within the Christian religion...and how it's becoming a 'trend'... but if you've picked up a magazine lately (i forget where i read this at) you'll see that the trend isn't really Christianity anymore-it's Buddism and I forget what other religions were mentioned but there were a few more. The article I read showed an increase in Buddism etc and used movie stars as examples of people who are going off on this new trend... spending thousands of dollars to get special herbs, statues of Buddha, and anything else relating to it... think all that money goes to a Buddist charity? I'll bet not. And it's kinda funny how people can just change their views to go along with whatever the trend is... Don't you think it's better to back something like Christianity and actually BELIEVE in it and even make some money off of it then to just follow the trend and not believe in it and have some people make money off of it? I'm sorry I just think this is really ridiculous and I can't believe that no one else sees that it isn't just Christianity, and even if it WAS just Christianity, at least people believe in it. ****************************************************************************** Check out my Website at: >http://www.refmaker.com/members/legomoney.shtml ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #127 **********************************