From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #123 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Monday, April 10 2000 Volume 03 : Number 123 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: breathing [Naomi ] ET: hmm ;) [Naomi ] ET: a lullaby ["a poet on 'Bleecker Street'" ] ET: pink flamingos [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: poem [courtney gordon ] ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses [Katherine] Re: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses ["~* c] ET: ~ on angel's wings & sealed by a kiss ~ ["marty" ] Re: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses [Nicol] ET: he was not my friend or brother [kara garbe ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 20:59:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi Subject: ET: breathing a child of the electronic age breathing my hopes and dreams into this heartless machine - -- ~pain~ it waits, it lurks behind the sun, behind those shades behind the corner, behind your eyes the cruel dark beast lingers just waiting, for me to breath - -- what the books don't tell you is Cinderella had 19 children & Prince Charming lost the castle to gambling debts --- where's the fairy-godmother when you need her? (a Caribbian cruise) ===== "What is Desire? Desire is... complicated. One person always wants the other person more." -VS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2000 21:31:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Naomi Subject: ET: hmm ;) ~daydreaming~ you want to know how much I love your spine? I love the groove, the curve, the subtle fall I love the sensation racing through my fingertip as I slide it up the canyon, meeting your neck I love that it's feel is not known to everyone but it's known, to me ===== "What is Desire? Desire is... complicated. One person always wants the other person more." -VS __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 03:49:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "a poet on 'Bleecker Street'" Subject: ET: a lullaby Hi everyone, I post occasionally with my poems--and this is one of those times. Anyway, here's a poem I wrote last night about my girlfriend and me... OOOOOhh I love her! I love her with all my heart, with all my mind, with all of me! The poem ends on a positive/optimistic note despite the overshadowing pessimistic imageries of falling stars, lies we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better, such as: 'Yea tomorrow's gonna be better' when in fact we know it won't be with all the pressures of people and situations aggravating our lives. As the title suggests, I tried to make the poem appear like a lullaby. And at times I see the poem, itself, as a possible song--now only if I could write music and add a beat. But basically the lush of childrens' nursery rhymes is juxtaposed with the seriousness of the subject of lost hope and a life-death situation at hand. As you will find, the poem incorporates several infamous nursery rhymes--modified to my suiting of thepoem. The title, itself, has double-meaning... As you may know, the phrase "lay to rest" often suggests someone being dead. But on a literal note, the title suggests laying someone to rest (as in rest up, sleep, etc.). I really like double meanings with poetry... Observe the trend for the imageries of "falling", "stars" and "lies" as... lies (negative in life) are used to comfort ourselves from the harsh reality falling upon us each day. Okay... I will let you enjoy the poem for what it'sworth. The poem is better read from my poetry Web page: Http://unpoete.cjb.net/poetry/lullabys.html And the main Web page of assorted poetry:Http://unpoete.cjb.net Please send me your feedback if you so wish to. Sincerely, John "lullabies to lay you to rest" by John Khuu Dedicated to my Sweetheart Jonalyn Hush-a-bye baby don't you cry, I'll be here all through the long night; Hush-a-bye baby don't you die, I need you here all through the night. Rock-a-my-babe don't say a word, I'll hold you so tight all night long; Rock-a-my-babe don't crash-n-burn, I need you now before you're gone. Heaven's crying downright, Stars are falling tonight. . . Night lovers are moonstruck And we're blessed without luck. I see tears in your eyes, I sense fears in our lies, But I'll sing lullabies To wipe your eyes with lies: 'Tomorrow will be good, Things will work as they should'. Shhhhh. . ., shhhh. . ., shhh. . . Shush your cries, shut your eyes Shhhhh. . ., shhhh. . ., shhh. . . I'll be here - that's no lie. Twinkle, twinkle my lovely star, Oh, how I worry how you are Pinned-up above the world, so high, But a falling star from the sky. . . My fallen star - here, Shooting stars choke the air. . . Shooting stars disappear - Her falling stars. . . nowhere. Illusions twinkle high above, Reality falling so hard - Hush-a-bye love don't you swallow, I'll be here through your overdose; Hush-a-bye love don't you let go, I'll stand here through your comatose. Hush-a-bye, baby, in my arms, I'll keep you safe and far from harm; Hush-a-bye, darling, in my heart, I'll love you always in my heart. - --end of poem-- ===== "...his dream must have seemed so close that he could hardly fail to grasp it. He did not know that it was already behind him..." -F. Scott Fitzgerald (The Great Gatsby) [ the New remodelled... Bleecker Street Cafe ] { http://unpoete.cjb.net } ( poetry, thoughts, and more! ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 10:05:22 EDT From: RedWoodenBeads@aol.com Subject: ET: pink flamingos In a message dated 4/9/00 9:02:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: << my neighbors have pink flamingos in their yard. >> then they're gay. gay guys always have pink flamingos in their yard. no longer cradled in gravity's memory still in and spinning in spiral drifts of endlessness spinning in torment into the garden of light - -Pale Saints "A Thousand Stars Burst Open" http://www.chickpages.com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:15:07 -0400 (EDT) From: courtney gordon Subject: ET: poem Dear Angels, This is a poem I wrote a while ago, I was feeling kinda concieted, childish and pissed off at the same time, and this is what happened. I had to edit it because there were some words in it that were...less than holy, if you want that version, just ask. "Telepathy" They say pain makes great art; and you're building me a museum. Dammit, I want a Taj Mahal! "Hey, baby, why don't we break up, and be just friends?" Hey, you, why don't I just give you the finger and tell you to kiss mine? <"You just dissed this, and now you wanna kiss this?"> "But it's not you, I love you" It's your fault! How's that food for thought? Remember me when you're crying and whining at 3 a.m. and you can't sleep cuz you're alone. Remember you're crying alone. Remember alone is all by yourself. Remember alone is not with me. Remember alone, is all your fault. ~~~~~~~ Comments & questions accepted with open arms! Courtney ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 11:16:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Katherine Alexandra Subject: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses jesus' favorites. i shouldn't be writing this. someone will get offended, and i know this already...so please, if you do get offended easily, just dont read this. or if you get upset, don't start a flaming war with the list, just send the anger to me. but let me begin, because this is on my mind and i can't seem to get it out. jesus' favorites. that's what my best friend and i call em'. we go to wal-mart and they wear t-shirts that say "pray hard" and wrist bands saying "wwjd", which is cute and all...but what is wrong with our generation? and i mean this, when i went to high school, kids would bring BIBLES to school and "chicken noodle soup for the teen soul". we are a boring lot if you think about it....i just dont understand where along the lines, christianity became a trend...bc that's what it has become in the mainstream american pop culture. jesus is being marketed. i dont know why hardcore christians don't get all upset about this, bc it really does seem wrong. i have a keychain with a hologram of jesus on it. the sticker with the price attached to it says: for ages 6 and up. i find humor in that. but think about it, we are saling holograms of jesus on keyrings. seems a bit wrong. back in high school students would go to the american flag, link hands and pray around it. praying around the american flag. does anyone else find something ironic about all of this? and maybe it's simply because i am in the bible belt, but there are magnets with seashells and the cross glued to it saying my small towns name. people put this own their fridge. glow in the dark jesus night lights, glow in the dark rosearys, if you want anything to do with the bible, i gurantee you can get it to glow in the dark. see the movie "omega code", it's a thriller of bibical proportions...but notice just how wrong it seems?? is this just me? and i'm not even christian, but i think it's odd to sale a religion, bc that's whats going on...i was in the mall about 2 weeks ago and a group of bible thumpers went up to me, between the ages of 15-20 and asked me if i believe in god...they started asking me if i have been saved...asking me rather personal questions..in the mall, while i was trying to buy a cd at sam goody.. this all seems a bit twisted, cult-like, and a little scary to me. the billboards that say: "you think it's hot down here-god" and "i was invited to the wedding, what about the marriage-god" all signed by god..so while i'm driving i read these billboards and it all seems a little strange to me. i'm not knocking christianity, that's cool if that's what you believe, and i think it's out to do good...but somewhere along the lines someone is making a few too many dollars off of jesus merchandise. just seems a little creepy. kat imperfect angel ps sorry about this rant. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:10:32 GMT From: "~* cymbaline *~" Subject: Re: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses I don't understand. What's so offensive about Christian merchandise? There's plenty of Christians in the world, and there isn't anything wrong with them professing their faith, by wearing "WWJD?" and T-shirts. Its not wrong to bring Jesus into the everyday world. Did you know that U2, a band who had one of the biggest follwings in the 1980s, are Christians? Even a lot of their sings reflect on spirituality. Is that really so wrong, though? I think its great. Why is it wrong to bring Christianity out to mainstream? I don't see any reason why. It will reach more and more people that way. And the more people that become Christian, and come to know the Lord, the more this world will be a better place to live. I think there are bigger things to worry about, than the marketing of Christianity. This isn't a flame, just my own view, thats why I'm sending it to the list. Peace, Love and Happiness, Cymbie <>< - --- "If love is a river, heartache is a desert" -cymbaline - --- If bread crusts are better than nothing and nothing is better than love then by the transitive property of math bread crusts are better than love. No? - --- AIM: Cymbaline327 DiamondGoatAngel PrincessCealaigh ICQ: 66422547 (Cymbaline) - --- The Inner Realm http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Chalet/1007 - --- Sounds of Freedom http://listen.to/sounds-of-freedom - --- The Official EODA Website! http://www.geocities.com/everyotherdayangels ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 23:58:46 +0200 From: "marty" Subject: ET: ~ on angel's wings & sealed by a kiss ~ sitting here with this letter... ~ par avion ~ sealed by a kiss from your lips and this an amorous lil tear running down on my right cheek- the eye where it always begin, from water salted with ~love~ why the right? maybe because our love is always so right... and so honest, good and warm. i won't try hold this lil tear back as it slowly leaves its sheer trail down my skin, because it holds of a precious treasure-message from my soul to your soul. and it feels like: like it was your fingertip, slowly wandering across with such wonder down my cheek maybe is it red n rosy from blush oh i don't know; i don't look myself in the mirror for this.. but i see you in the mirror; of my inner soul. and i whisper to myself and to the spirit of you i keep within me oh this must be the warmest emotion a man will ever feel and yet i know, what we are waiting for, you and me; intim something so much higher, so much more beautiful than what we have ever felt within our senses, but this feeling that i'm living right now... with this kiss&letter in my hand and then some.. it is of the most wunderful things, higher than for me to ever ask for in this my life to be the happiest, knowing.. that every new day with you, love has this new emotion in its cradle of being loved like this; makes me shed another. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 17:51:00 -0700 From: Nicole Subject: Re: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses well, i think what she meant to say was that it's not offensive bringing it to mainstream, but it's offensive to make money off of it. there's a big difference. and plus, it's not coming to mainstream in that much of a good light...it's kind of being cultish, i'd say. that's just me though :) nik - ----- Original Message ----- From: "~* cymbaline *~" To: Sent: Monday, April 10, 2000 12:10 PM Subject: Re: ET: jesus' favorites, plastic jesus', glow in the dark crosses > I don't understand. What's so offensive about Christian merchandise? There's > plenty of Christians in the world, and there isn't anything wrong with them > professing their faith, by wearing "WWJD?" and T-shirts. Its not wrong to > bring Jesus into the everyday world. > > Did you know that U2, a band who had one of the biggest follwings in the > 1980s, are Christians? Even a lot of their sings reflect on spirituality. Is > that really so wrong, though? I think its great. > > Why is it wrong to bring Christianity out to mainstream? I don't see any > reason why. It will reach more and more people that way. And the more people > that become Christian, and come to know the Lord, the more this world will > be a better place to live. > > I think there are bigger things to worry about, than the marketing of > Christianity. > > This isn't a flame, just my own view, thats why I'm sending it to the list. > > Peace, Love and Happiness, > Cymbie <>< > > --- > "If love is a river, heartache is a desert" -cymbaline > --- > If bread crusts are better than nothing > and nothing is better than love > then by the transitive property of math > bread crusts are better than love. No? > --- > AIM: Cymbaline327 > DiamondGoatAngel > PrincessCealaigh > > ICQ: 66422547 (Cymbaline) > --- > The Inner Realm > http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Chalet/1007 > --- > Sounds of Freedom > http://listen.to/sounds-of-freedom > --- > The Official EODA Website! > http://www.geocities.com/everyotherdayangels > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 18:49:44 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: he was not my friend or brother I shot him down like a rotten angel. He was not my friend or brother, just a spot in the sky I wanted to call home. His helmet rolled onto grass at my feet, his fingers still wrapped around the gun thirty feet from his arm. It had already been responsible for more red blood than flesh was ever meant to expose. How can we know when something dies? When the soil is soaked with greens and browns and dog tags I bought as a child at the museum, bringing them home to my father the only thing left is the thing that's left when everything else is broken. His fingers were clenched so tightly just at the edge of my vision that he says he can still feel the hand there, clenching and clenching around the trigger. If only he had lost it sooner but he stood before me in the yard as I said I needed to know what death was, death you witness and cause and whose only justification is more death he said safety pins holding closed the wound at his neck he said his hand was gone, lost in the fall, his trigger fingers bent in half, cut away with the hand. Sliced forearm dripping bullets. I wrapped it with my tongue and still could not stop the bleeding. My mouth full of his wound, the kind of closeness we don't encourage any more so I had to learn to say I feel his pain I feel his pain I feel his pain I am his pain and one day when I set him free, un balanced, I will cleave my face to his wound, an extra body for his hand, a last minute liability that doesn't know how to pick up a gun, overdraft protection for a finite reserve of peace and I will dig my dog tags out of the dirt and put them on again, and this time I will not know when to stop I will not know when to stop I will not know when to stop I will not know when to stop. ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #123 **********************************