From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #116 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Wednesday, April 5 2000 Volume 03 : Number 116 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: Re:questions [RedWoodenBeads@aol.com] ET: the slant [kara garbe ] ET: smog [RJonthego@aol.com] ET: A Huge Post in Recovery [DPS8315@aol.com] Re: [ET: answered questions...and a new couple.] [JonBoy911@aol.com] Fwd: [Re: [ET: answered questions...and a new couple.]] [Naomi Vaughn (not to strike a chord)Is kissing cheating on your > boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever? if you mean kissing someone else, yes, it definitely is for me, but i suppose you all might have different views =) > Who's your favorite poet/author? I am sorry, but Edgar Allen Poe is beter than all. Joe your mother recognizes all your desperate displays and she watches all her babies drift violently away http://www.chickpages. com/musicmania/joepages ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 00:22:55 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: the slant i just wanted to share with you guys a great ani difranco song that also reads like a wonderful poem.... the slant the slant a building settling around me my figure female framed crookedly in the threshold of the room door scraping floorboards with every opening carving a rough history of bedroom scenes the plot hard to follow the text obscured in the fields of sheets slowly gathering the stains of seasons spent lying there red and brown like leaves fallen the colors of an eternal cycle fading with the wash cycle and the rinse cycle again an unfamiliar smell like my name misspelled or misspoken a cycle broken the sound of them strong stalking talking about their prey like the way hammer meets nail pounding, they say pounding out the rhythms of attraction like a woman was a drum like a body was a weapon like there was something more they wanted than the journey like it was owed to them steel toed they walk and i'm wondering why this fear of men maybe it's because i'm hungry and like a baby i'm dependent on them to feed me i am a work in progress dressed in the fabric of a world unfolding offering me intricte patterns of questions rhythms that never come clean and strengths that you still haven't seen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:50:01 EDT From: RJonthego@aol.com Subject: ET: smog In a message dated 4/4/2000 9:02:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org writes: > public service announcement: > kara now wants to live in astoria, oregon. > or perhaps in sam's town... but that's just because kara has an > affinity for california. lol - riverside's a great place, but you don't want to LIVE there. the reason: summer equals SMOG. yuck. *but sam - that doesn't mean i'm not coming over every day i can* As for prose vs poetry -- here's a newcomer's point of view: this is great actually realizing that all of you screenames are REAL people and not just poetry machines! I love the poetry -- keep it coming, but this conversation's nice too. :) royaboya reading ee cummings as she speaks(types) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 02:57:19 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: ET: A Huge Post in Recovery In a message dated 4/3/00 7:09:30 AM US Eastern Standard Time, JonBoy911@aol.com writes: > 2) I'm strongly pro-choice, and this writer obviously is not. :) lol, I just wanted to point out to everyone that THIS COMMENT ROCKED. Blatant Truth, there's nothing like it to laugh at. rock on :) In a message dated 4/2/00 11:26:22 PM US Eastern Standard Time, jackies_strength20@yahoo.com writes: > where do you live? what is it like? what are the > smells, sounds, events...what makes your place > different from mine?? i know this is a dumb question, > but at the same time, it's an awareness of where you > are...which all of us should have. also, where are you > originally from? where do you consider your hometown > (if you consier any place it) where would you like to > be??? My place is no different than yours! All Americans cut down trees and name subdivisions after them, that's the way the world works :) Despite all the complaints Mishawaka, Indiana gets about corn and having nothing to do, I found someone rather magnificent to do stuff with, and I'm happy to say that I turned out just fine, thanks. I'm normal and well rounded in most plauisble aspects, and I will hardly accept that just because most "hoosiers" are dumb, that I shouldn't raise a child hear ten years down the road! I like corn. I also like Beef, and subway is a great place to eat.. and even though they've got all that wonderful stuff (and more, as the Missourian was pointing out) everywhere else, there's nothing wrong with Mishawaka, Indiana (save the people) I like where I live! (isn't that the general consensus..all us open minded people liking the place where we've grown up..meanwhile the peons complain! ugh) In a message dated 4/4/00 8:08:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, tstevens@ican.net writes: > sides that inane what are you doing for the end of the world thread, there > hasn't been much..cept maybe some french-translation stuff.... ;) > right bifnakedgirl, james&kev????? :) Je ne sais pas le français, et je ne sais pas pourquoi vous insistez pour essayer de m'inciter à le parler. Je ne parle pas français que je ne parlerai jamais français et ce n'est pas Kara connaît le Français aussi? Pourquoi ne l'avez-vous pas mentionnée? Peut-être parce qu'elle suce et n'a pas m'écrit! (sticking tounge out) In a message dated 4/4/00 8:08:51 PM US Eastern Standard Time, tstevens@ican.net writes: > (me too :)(in no particular order.... ;) > > kara-kara(i promise to comment soon, my mag comes out tomorrow, then i'll be .............................................................................. ...................... > james(who's not living up to his part of the bargain ;) SEE, WHATEVER! Don't you hate shady bitch-es who take up all the fame and get to be sooooo popular? bleh! and she doesn't even attempt to write fragile little me! I thought you were sending me that 2 1/2 pg thing, dear.. minor revisions or something? and btw, t, i'll get to my part of the bargain.. what was it again? why dont you ever email me? it takes you like 3 weeks to even get back to me! I think I get deleted. In a message dated 4/4/00 11:45:35 AM US Eastern Standard Time, jackies_strength20@yahoo.com writes: > kara: you are one awesome bitch. have i responded to > your email? i always forget who's "turn" it is. i dont > wanna lose track of you (i want to know all about that > transatlantic journey, GO ON THE PADDYWAGON, i promise > you, it's the best). *sniff* I remember the good ole days when Kara wrote me.. alright, seriously, I'm done with the guilt trip now In a message dated 4/4/00 7:47:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time, lakini@virginia.edu writes: > > (not to strike a chord)Is kissing cheating on your > > boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever? > i think this is cheating... if you're willing to kiss someone else, > then what does it say about your dedication to your current > significant other? of course there could be extenuating > circumstances, or maybe the kiss makes you realize how much you > don't want to be with someone else after all, yada yada... but i > think that if you do kiss someone else, you should tell your > boyfriend/girlfriend because that was some sort of transgression. Don't listen to Kara she gives bad advice! She plays your conscience and makes you do the right things and what not! crazy woman, indeed. I think kissing is over-rated. Well, let's rephrase that.. I think kissing is great... and being a good kisser is as essential to a relationship as anything... (and I could use some support on this, CASSIE) when you kiss someone... if it isn't passionate, if you cant FEEL energy transgressing the b oundaries between you, then there's something wrong... like those cool little electric-gas spark glass balls that you can get at your local weirdo store (they were popular a few years back) kissing is wonderful. I think my first kiss...was actually in like 5th grade but that doesn't count etc, and here I am like 6 years later, if it werent for the french..or actually, probably Americans, and the "french kiss" my life would not be nearly as inspired. Kat talked about CREATING .. and the from baz lurhman's sunscreen, "do something everyday that scares you" - that's what creation is all about, and there's no place to manifest dreams and passion and everything that's bottled up inside of you, like someone else's lips connected to yours (: back from my tangent to the orig topic: for me at least, accepting that I'm more than a bit helplessly romantic, long before you *kiss* someone, you cross a whole hell of a lot of big black stone walls that are telling you a lot of things- your relationship sucks, you dont care, blah blah, we've been over that already: if you're to the point of kissing someone, you need to take a serious check of what's going on in your life, and straighten things out.. you cant be a player.period. it doesn't work, and you end up with a lot of people hating you..the lesson kids: dont smoke crack. and dont think about kissing other people! In a message dated 4/4/00 8:17:35 PM US Eastern Standard Time, tstevens@ican.net writes: > dearest kara-kara and the rest of youse, blah blah, there's kara bein ms popularity again. *cough*bitch*cough* :) > as for the poh-etry being overshadowed, if it's good enough, it won't > be, although i do notice a startling decline in the past few days... ;) I'll fix that, really.. but do ya really want me to? ew! you post dear, you post.. we'll all post. that's the next assignment! a poetry post! woohoo! > as fer denigration into personal conversations, as long as they're not > completely dorky (however that's to be judged!), i don't see the > problemo. fosters community and all that warm-fuzzy bullshit, right? :) I love warm fuzzy bullshit! I like warm fuzzy everything.. In a message dated 4/4/00 8:37:50 PM US Eastern Standard Time, lakini@virginia.edu writes: > and now i'm receding back into the land of strict poetry postings > because i feel that i have way overdone my allowance of prose > babblings! well I think I kept myself pretty well in check for the 40 some emails from this list in my box... I kept it to two emails (counting my p-post to follow) in one day, and it's all good! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 22:19:00 EDT From: JonBoy911@aol.com Subject: Re: [ET: answered questions...and a new couple.] In a message dated 04/04/2000 6:14:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time, electricdream@netscape.net writes: << > (not to strike a chord)Is kissing cheating on your > boyfriend/girlfriend/whatever? >> Most definitely. A kiss doesn't come with a contract, but sometimes I think that it should. Namaste, Jon ------------------------------ Date: 4 Apr 00 21:56:50 CDT From: Naomi Vaughn Subject: Fwd: [Re: [ET: answered questions...and a new couple.]] pretty sure the lovely rebecca meant to send this to the list, not me :) "And when somebody knows you well / well there's no comfort like that / a= nd when somebody needs you / well there's no drug like that" ~Heather Nova ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. - ------NetAddressPart-00--=_ec5Y0240S0labb1d8 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Forwarded Message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from rly-na03.mx.aol.com [205.188.158.40] by mx09 via mtad (2.6) with ESMTP id 012eDeaT20580M09; Wed, 05 Apr 2000 00:19:53 GMT Received: from imo18.mx.aol.com (imo18.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.8]) by rly-na03.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 20:19:33 -0400 Received: from JewelAng@aol.com by imo18.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id x.d8.28991a6 (1840) for ; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:17:30 -0400 (EDT) From: JewelAng@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 20:17:30 EDT Subject: Re: [ET: answered questions...and a new couple.] To: electricdream@netscape.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 101 In a message dated 4/4/00 8:14:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, electricdream@netscape.net writes: << Who's your favorite poet/author? >> Well a few. I love Charles Burkowsky. I have his one poetry book called "And the days run away like wild horses over the hills." If you like poetry, you should go out and get it. I have a book by e e cummings also. I like him, but I have a tough time understanding his poetry. That doesn't mean I don't like it any less though. Then of course, right now I"m reading Pablo Nuredo (sp?) but he is just AMAZING. Anyhow, of course then there is Jewel. :) I don't really have a favorite author. I love too many books. Rebecca - -------------------------------- http://nettrash.com/users/majesticramblings ..majestic.ramblings. http://www.envy.nu/souls Common hearts with common dreams http://www.angelfire.com/yt/horns My horns keep up my halo Webring - ----------------------------------- "There is all this love but nowhere for it to grow each second continually devours the next and we're moving too fast for it to fasten its roots to the wind" ~*Jewel*~ - ------NetAddressPart-00--=_ec5Y0240S0labb1d8-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 04:02:53 EDT From: DPS8315@aol.com Subject: ET: Uninspired, but suggested been too tired with job and m'lady to sufficiantly devote myself. i now reside to writing in class and in laudry mats (I've actually only been in one once, to wash sleeping bags this past weeked, but still!) :) _____ Sunday mornings the sky caves in on Americans caughts between love and war and what society tells them they know about life Our children aren't kids anymore and life aint toissin 'em anything short of a cure ball everytime the step up to the plate the path lay not in front of you, but behind you in the west, and when you find it, the sun will be fading out in front of you, night coming as life goes on: your roads shall hardly be Frost's diverged paths, and though seldom traveled by, your paths are clear and unyielding: an uphill climb you will conquer to fall foreer, below the heights you knew when first you began Life will not pass you by. it will be there always around and in front of you calling you down curved and darkened path time and again Sleepless Nights ______ Life catching up with you, dear friend? didn't see it sneaking up on your nineteen-ninety-six Lexus SE, things putting your life on cruise conrol; A smooth ride through everyone else's nights, days, and forvers but is Life caught up with you, kind sir? flashing red and blue lights, ugly white car and an even nastier officer got you and the rest of the world all worked up and stalled out, pulled over on the side of I-94- just a glitch in today's time schedule, and life ain't treating you too bad, but ten years later is life passin you by? broken down on the highway shoulder, your Lexus pawned off for a could-have-been-prototype-P.O.S. that ended up bein your yesterday death and burial.I'll see you in hell ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:44:23 EDT From: RJonthego@aol.com Subject: ET: just a couple The way this one came about is neat -- i was walking through barnes and noble and saw a book titled "she's come undone" i thought -- ooh, i'll have to write a poem with that in it. went home...and here it is: She's come undone (nothing to do with the hooks on her dress) (well she tells herself that at least) And coming unglued could be the safest way of distance Maybe she's afraid ofthecrowd at the finish line She can never run far enough to look back Flying a p a r t the closest thing to wings (?) Scaring him (she never meant to) (she tells herself that anyway) loving him (she meant to) (coming) undone deftlyquicklyquietly Before him she had to strain to reach to stretch to undo ~~~ Did I mention stop ? You're not allowed to turn my stomach The way you have a habit of doing. You say she says he says I do this to myself. Did I mention stop ? This feeling is not allowed. ~~~ that's all for now... royaboya "freedom's just another word for nothing left to loose..." *don't forget: http://www.angelfire.com/stars/neonskye/mypoems.html* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2000 18:05:44 EDT From: RJonthego@aol.com Subject: ET: favorite poets... i'd have to say ee cummings, tori amos and our own phoenix princessa, sAmArA top three right there :) (not necessarily in that order) i haven't really read all that much pablo neruda ,but what ihave read i loved, and then copied into my journal :) before i go - let me say.... i didn't list you all on my fave poets list, but you're INCREDIBLE. I've never been on a list like this.... every time i get online i read my edathoughts digest first. but i was thinking... there sure is a whole lot of pain on this list. there's another question. do you have to be miserable to write? or do you write *better* if you're unhappy? do share... royaboya but now that i think about it there's sure a lot of happiness here too ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #116 **********************************