From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #50 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, February 10 2000 Volume 03 : Number 050 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: love vs. bitterness (was VALENTINE'S) [shivergirl ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2000 23:28:30 -0500 From: shivergirl Subject: ET: love vs. bitterness (was VALENTINE'S) i agree wholeheartedly with james (surprise, surprise ;). why should anyone on this list "watch what we say"? is there like, censorship of feelings or something? come on. we all feel differently about things/holidays. and we're all entitled to our own opinion, and to sharing that opinion if there is a handy platform available to us and we feel sufficiently worked-up enough about it to spew. i'd like to think this is what this list is about; whether it's self-absorbed poetry (and i should know), philosophic thoughts, cries for help, short fiction, found poetry, or just an ear for what you did on the weekend and your latest cd, i'm glad this forum exists for us all to remain sane and get the stuff out of us that we need to purge (however non-literary that may sound). seth, you're entitled to hate valentine's, though i seriously doubt it's at the hiroshima level. (personally, i think that's a horribly egotistical, non-parallel comparison, but that's just ME). you can say whatever you like. we all can. that's fair. we don't all have to like it, or any of it. that's what delete buttons are for. *but that's also what reply buttons are for.* so i'll continue to tread on this "dangerous ground." i just never thought i'd have to be lookin for and dodgin grenades on this list. james, i think your comments/suggestions were right on the mark and helpful. you got at the crux of the matter: prolly most singles on valentine's want to participate in the "cutesy crap." because it's a legitimate day to actually enjoy and revel in it (methinks, anyways). seth, i understand what you're sayin about how some girls would definitely take it the wrong way if you sent them a dozen red or whatever roses. it looks more than way bad if you're both just friends and she doesn't want more and you're cognizant of that fact; it looks downright desperate. so i would advise against it. but james still has a point; and maybe you should refrain yourself from goin "all-out" for once and see what happens. maybe girls get intimidates or overwhelmed by such grand treatment. maybe it doesn't impress them so much as scare them. and what does getting all this attention have to do with love, anyway? is that really the point? is it more for show or for yourself? why not give your friends (girls or guys or whatever club you belong to) one rose/gift and make it abundantly clear it's platonic, but still presented in the same spirit of caring? say you don't expect/want anything more and leave it at that! make a joke out of it to ease the tension, for god's sake! but please don't become so bitter and resentful of others and their good-intentioned tips/advice that you alienate everyone and end up just feeling more alone. it's a self-fulfilling process. just my two loonies. ;) now *i'll* shut my trap before anyone *else* gets "really upset." (why didn't god give everyone the same amount of valentine cards in this cosmic game anyways? everyone would be so much happier...) (i remember how it feels, though; getting five back when you've handed out twenty.) @~tara ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #50 *********************************