From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #16 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Friday, January 14 2000 Volume 03 : Number 016 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V3 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: trying not to be over it [kara garbe ] ET: good art? [kara garbe ] Re: [ET: good art?] [genben@usa.net] ET: SNOW!!! [mandabear4@juno.com] ET: Everything is everything [Naomi Vaughn ] ET: Angelfood Contest [JewelAng@aol.com] ET: les pensees francaises :) [shivergirl ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 01:11:24 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: trying not to be over it here's some writing for you guys... i'd love to get comments back on it, especially the second piece, which just doesn't feel complete to me, but i lost the image so had to stop writing. hello to ben, caroline, naomi&joe, james (i'm SORRY!! you're an awesome guy! :), robert&robin, annie, and everyone else i'm leaving out right now because i'm too tired to think.... ~kara 1.13.00 kara~garbe So this is what it comes down to we are online again, talking about whether smiley faces should have noses. fire and water, green peppers and milk, plastic bags and little kids, you and me and all things forsaken. *~*~* And you reached for me across a continent, spanning miles of silence and wires. You broke through like a rock thrown against the glass window before me so that nothing was seen without the lingering haze that was your existence, somewhere. And when you finally came to me, you curled around my body, the white-hot center of a flame, burning off of something you couldn't grasp. Years passed. It felt like decades as you melted from me and I reached up smudged palms, trying to catch the oxygen I had so long refused. I drew it to my face, inhaling deeply as you flowed away from me, spilling and cooling and hardening onto the surface of the table below us. I sent you from me and I exhalted, forgetting your face the instant that mine was raised once again up to the sun. And I exhalted. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 01:20:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: good art? On Wed, 12 Jan 2000 10:17:28 EST RedWoodenBeads@aol.com wrote: > Art is anything created by man to enlighten his soul and bring wonder to his > mind, inspiring him to look at the world around him. and > For one thing, good artwork reflects life. It inspires you to flourish in > your own world, points out problems and wrongs, etc. Art also gives you an > insight into the artist. For the most part, though, good art is hard to > define, because good art is all so unique. Bad art tends to all fall into the > same ruts. hmm... that is an interesting definition of good art... but doesn't your first statement contradict this? i really liked what you said first. i mean, let's say that i write some poetry that is completely cliche... but what if, as i write these words, they take on this really personal meaning that amounts to enlightenment and wonder for me? isn't it good art, then? i would say yes. this just seems too subjective... good art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. it just so happens that sometimes, a large portion of society tends to agree on what is good art (or beauty), and these things get held up as idols or standards. for example, there must be *some* reason that the backstreet boys are so popular. maybe it's just because so many girls think they're hot. but maybe this is just an example of what james wrote the other day -- that seeing and being around beautiful things can be comforting and inspiring. so, although many people on this list probably dislike the backstreet boys, they must be offering some sort of enlightenment and wonder to their millions of fans. and i believe that just might be art--does beauty equal art? i hope my response isn't taken as offensive or aggressive or anything -- i think this is a really interesting discussion, and i really don't have any strong opinions on this issue; i'm just tossing out thoughts. and NOW i'm going to bed. :) ~kara ............................................................................ ........ In all ease and comfort, without rushing You from place to place and without trying to be exhaustive, I will show You this and this, tell You what it means to me, and then put it all back among my other things. --Rilke ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 00 14:32:38 EST From: genben@usa.net Subject: Re: [ET: good art?] > for example, there must > be *some* reason that the backstreet boys are so popular. maybe > it's just because so many girls think they're hot > so, although many people on this list probably dislike the > backstreet boys, they must be offering some sort of enlightenment > and wonder to their millions of fans. and i believe that just might > be art--does beauty equal art? > anyone want to hear a story? i have a friend - let's call him jose - whose uncle runs the lighting at a major concert venue here in the dc area (which will also remain nameless). for one particular show (leaving the band also nameless, suffice to say they are mentioned somewhere else in this post), jose's uncle needed him to help out with the lighting because it was extremely elaborate. so, jose is helping out, lifting stuff and setting lights (extremely arduous for those of you who have never done it), when all of a sudden, some 110-pound roadie for the nameless band drops a fifty-pound light from 25 feet in the air right onto jose's head! this is the sad part - jose was in a coma for a while and still has a bad scar, but the nameless band is about to settle out of court with him for A LOT of money. jose has had his life turned upside-down, and all because this band had a roadie that couldn't handle her load. can you believe that? ben ____________________________________________________________________ Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 19:11:03 -0400 From: mandabear4@juno.com Subject: ET: SNOW!!! For those of you not in Connecticut....we got snow!!!!! We didn't get out of school early like the 7 other towns our high school services. That was bad but it's okay... I drove for the first time in the snow....scary cuz my car did a 360 in the middle of a really busy street going 7 miles and hour in first gear....scared the crap out of me!!!! ~Mandabear~ "The Forever Seeking Teen Angel" ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: 13 Jan 00 18:33:40 CST From: Naomi Vaughn Subject: ET: Everything is everything JOE (!!!!! lol, hey babe ;), kara, sam, james? :P seth, kev, court, kerry, tara, robert, robin, ect, ect, ECT... hello, hi, hey, how-do-you-do?!?! :) and with that said... bye :) all the love, Naomi ... the world around us opened up and for a moment, our moment, we were allowed inside to hold and touch and taste the objects of our mutual affections. - -- for a brief, glimmering moment, as I raked my unaged fingers through my messy hair, I could see, with that lost sight of the youthful and serene, what you see. "i'm a chipper cheerful free for all / and i light up a room / i'm the color me happy girl / miss live and let live / and when they're out for blood / i always give" ~Ani DiFranco, "Pixie" ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 20:09:14 EST From: JewelAng@aol.com Subject: ET: Angelfood Contest Hi Angels, I posted this about a week or so go. It's still going on because not many people went to the website to enter the contest. Last contest I had there was A LOT more people who signed up. Here what's you do: Go to the new version of my poetry site at . Then put your favorite quotes on my message board. Also you must sign my guesbook. I will cross refrence. (Construtive critizism is wanted!, tell me what the page needs) I will then pick a winner. The winner will be the person who put in a quote that I liked the best. The winner will then get my two favorite angelfood tapes at the moment. The tapes: "Filling Tiny Spaces" (Rugburns and Jewel complation) "Jewel Rocks the Paradise" Website!! http://www.angelfire.com/yt/rebecca Thanks Angels, Rebecca "It is the dead Not the living who make the greatest demands. We die forever..." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 23:34:36 -0500 From: shivergirl Subject: ET: les pensees francaises :) (je m'excuse; je ne peux pas aider... ;) * pour un instant/tu sais cette chanson/qui resemble beaucoup des moments/que passent frequement/et jamais restent/ pour longs * les vrais noms des oiseaux/c'est un etrange chose/ ca c'est le titre d'un poeme/sur la route d'ecole/ mais je ne les sais pas/je ne me souviens pas/ * vous parlez l'anglais/mais/c'est un nouvelle langue/ je pense/j'adore votre version/du monde/des mots/ particulierement/et pensees sensuelles/elles sont les enfants que/je baise avec toute ma coeur/ s'il vous plait/jamais arretez/juste allez-vous/ avec toutes les facons/d'amour vous me montez/temps apres temps/encore * il est comme la premiere temps touts les temps je regarde ses yeux des couleurs mysterieuses je sens magnetique une fille unique dans le monde de ses yeux seulement * peux-je vous donner un baiser aves mes levres mouillees avec mes yeux fermes avec mon corps ouvre avec mes mains douces ca c'est acceptable de toi? son ame est si lumiere a moi et je veux seulement de n'oublier pas toutes les sentiments tu choisis a donner a moi et j'accepte l'amite gratuit pour eternite tu es mon bebe devoue maintenant... dans le futur j'espere que je vais devenir... ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V3 #16 *********************************