From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #324 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Friday, November 12 1999 Volume 02 : Number 324 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: RE: ~turquoise stagnant&still~ ["Robert A. Peate" ] ET: think ["steve c" <51peg@abts.net>] Re: ET: kevin's LISTEN GUYS..jewel [Djp1414@aol.com] Fwd: ET: RE: LISTEN GUYS ! [Djp1414@aol.com] ET: Looking for something ["Brian H" ] ET: poems [Courtney M Gordon ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:07:19 -0500 From: "Robert A. Peate" Subject: ET: RE: ~turquoise stagnant&still~ i love your problems, your academic success, and your nuts, special-miracle girl. i love your unpopular fashion sense. i love your depression, your mood swings, the living, waking reminder of the lure of suicide and the dark slide. i even love your pain, because it shows your sensitivity, not that i want you to feel it. i love that you released me from the prison, that you didn't fight me, because you knew i was right to request parole. i love your instability. i love that you love him still. i love that you still feel friendship toward the true traitor (not you). i love that you love men. (self-serving, perhaps?) i love that you apologise. i love that you love tori, as well as jewel. and i love that you love still. * there's enough space in this family/enough room to go around for another member/ gentle ember still glowing prettily sadly/but always possessing a spark/memories light the corners of my mind/showing me there is no ugly duckling/only different feathers/hope she finds a happier nest * time and place do not determine right/the group therapist let me decide for myself/loves you/and your priceless presents pewter pump for example/your side always nearer to me/even when it wasn't right/until i had to break free/my mother and i haven't been close for seven years/since the much-hyped strife/there has been a rebirth/our cat searches on for you * don't play with fire * glad to hear the pussy's softer/without claws/she'll still be sharp enough to kill/at will/does she ever lick others' wounds or only her own? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 13:56:39 -0500 From: shivergirl Subject: ET: sitting in a field together ~mer (a team)~ for e psychic sisters/emotional blisters/pass the razor/back and forth/twin twisters/like the man-child/we shared/between us/what a find/a thing/to lose/to find/our feet/asleep/in the sand/i love yous/notwithstanding ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 16:31:03 -0500 From: "steve c" <51peg@abts.net> Subject: ET: think - -----Original Message----- From: steve c <51peg@abts.net> Date: Thursday, November 11, 1999 4:29 PM >They all say it is how you look at things that keep you sane. that help you >get through this life .. yet, if we interpret everything the way we need to >interpret it to get along with others, or to geta good career .. or. make >something of ourselves.. are we only telling ourselves lies.. why should i >look at anything in a certain way. Why can't i look at what is there ..I >sometimes wonder many things.. > >for instance... Why does this world worship so many artists? Why do we >worship Kurt cobain.( i have no idea how to spell his name).. i mean this >guy shot himself.. he is dead. and we weep and morn over him. .. but if >someone like me tried to kill himself or thought of it.. i would only be >cursed and pushed away as an outcast.. i would hear things like" that is so >selfish." and " think of all the pain you are going to cause so many >people",, it amazes me how this world views things.. >.. if i do it it is wrong and it makes me a bad person. but if this guy that >plays guitar and sings does it he is a hero.. a God.. someone who gave his >life for us.? > >And .. why is it we look up to people like that guy for NIN.. ( nine inch >nails).. what is so great about a guy who doesn't really have that much >talent.. i mean i went to college for music. .. people worship this guy .. >and here i have witnessed a 12 year old girl play Rachmoninoff from >memory?.. ummm... i am confused.. and i doubt this 12 year old girl wants to >screw every guy she meets.. i just fail to see our logic.. we see what is on >a television screen and that is our information.. we read an >nterview..( don't you think these interviewers know what questions to ask.. >do you honestly think they are going to ask a question that could make a >guest look bad?) >and the interview is going to calculate our assumption that this guy is a >genius.. a genius.. well what do ya know.. wow.. i thought Einstein was one >of those.. how did we go from. a guy that did so much .. to a guy that did >practically nothing.. to be considered a genius.. .. > >and it also makes me wonder.. i am sure some of you will read this letter >just as you are reading these words before you .. and start assuming the >kind of person i am.. and find my faults.. but what are faults.. in a >person..? >is it simply that im' not like you .. or is it simply the fact you fear the >truth.. you fear the humiliation of being wrong.. > >i'm not right about many things.. i never say i am.. i'm not saying this >paper is who i am.. i make mistakes.. i hurt people.. i say mean things.. >but i play guitar.. and i sing.. > >so take all this in.. and look at it.. > >it's just like Kurt Cobain.. here we worship him and morn for his troubles.. >but you know. i think he would appreciate it more if we looked at >ourselves.. and looked at the world.. and tried to understand people and >help people.. sometimes i wonder.. some of you may not understand a word of >this .. and disagree with me.. > >i wonder if i were Kurt.. and no one understood me.. if i would have killed >myself. > >if the television and radio.. were to take my music.. my inner thoughts and >put them on a CD or a VCR tape.. and give it to every individual in the >world.. i wonder how that would feel.. to know how many people would not >understand.. and be against you.. and some worship you.. and to know.. you >gave your soul to the world.. and not one person.. ever treated you like an >every day Joe. not one person .. was your friend.. they were either your >enemy or your servant. to know all these people spen their time listening >to a love song by some other artist. and saying " wow i love that song" and >the same little girl that says that.. dumps her boyfriend next week because >he isn't cool.. he won't take a drag off a joint with her.. but she likes >that one song... its like.. > >how ignorant .to listen to "here we are now intertain us" and not ever >wonder .. i am who he is singing about. >i want to take take take take take..... > >i'm sorry i'm not making any sense.. i'll shut up now.. > >i just had a lot of thoughts that bothered me.. >people bother me, the world bothers me.. > >i guess i need to conform to stupidity and ignorance.. that way i won't kill >myself. > >but i can't do that... i'll just live the rest of my life wondering what >keeps me from doing either.. > >so many ask.. " what makes a person want to kill theirself?" > >I have the answer.. " wrong question asshole" > >we don't want to die.. we just want people to see what is wrong.. to see how >the world sucks.. and actually do something instead of.. say " well life >isn't fair" or some bugus shit like that.. >or tell you how they understand you arent alone.. they care.. yeah i'm sure >you do care.. >seriously.. but i bet you drink , i bet you do drugs, i bet you don't >realize how alone i am.. and we are. i bet you listen to the music and when >it is over don't feel the emotion any more.. >just being a friend doesn't fix it.. love doesn't fix it either.. > >you do... you fix it..You...!!! > >i'm doing my part. > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:33:21 EST From: Djp1414@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: kevin's LISTEN GUYS..jewel Spirit is an awesome record... I found POY a little childish .. this album is letting us see a mature side of Jewel .. - --Dan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 17:36:31 EST From: Djp1414@aol.com Subject: Fwd: ET: RE: LISTEN GUYS ! - --part1_0.6657ca60.255c9eef_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didnt plan on yelling at anyone .. just so you know ... but now that you brought it up.. I mine as well ... just kidding :O) - --dan - --part1_0.6657ca60.255c9eef_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (rly-yg02.mail.aol.com [172.18.147.2]) by air-yg04.mail.aol.com (v62.15) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 00:09:25 -0500 Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (ne.mediaone.net [24.128.1.70]) by rly-yg02.mx.aol.com (v62.10) with ESMTP; Tue, 09 Nov 1999 00:09:08 -0500 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [24.30.216.55]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA10421; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:08:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id AAA10075; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:07:50 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id AAA10053 for eda-thoughts-outgoing; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:06:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-jane) with ESMTP id AAA10049 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:06:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from newman.concentric.net (newman.concentric.net [207.155.198.71]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id AAA21915; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:06:51 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from bnlpease (ts001d01.wor-ma.concentric.net [208.176.93.13]) by newman.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id AAA12420; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:06:49 -0500 (EST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:03:55 -0500 Message-ID: <01BF2A45.EA0B91C0.kbpease@concentric.net> From: "Kevin B. Pease" To: "eda-thoughts@smoe.org" Subject: ET: RE: LISTEN GUYS ! Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 00:01:00 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-eda-thoughts@smoe.org Precedence: bulk On Monday, November 08, 1999 7:32 PM, Djp1414@aol.com [SMTP:Djp1414@aol.com] wrote: > I've SENT AN EMAIL LIKE THIS IN BEFORE .. AND I'M GOING TO DO IT AGAIN ! > THE BACKSTREET BOYS FANS AND THE GAY N'SYNC FANS MAKE SURE THAT THERE > FAVORITE BAND IS ON TRL (TOTAL REQUEST LIVE) SO I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WE > DONT MAKE SURE JEWEL IS ON TRL ! i DONT MEAN TO SOUND RUDE ABOUT THIS BUT IT > KINDA PISSES ME OFF ! I VOTE FOR HER ALL THE TIME.. WHY ARNT YOU GUYS ? WE > NEED TO GET TOGETHER AND SUPPORT HER !!!!! > EMAIL ME BACK WITH ANY COMMENTS ! At risk of being branded leper, outcast, unclean... I don't bother, because I'm not all that interested in seeing Jewel's videos... Spirit was an "eh, take it or leave it" sort of album, although it had it's moments... Joy made even less of an impression on me. Color me underwhelmed, I guess... her music lately hasn't done a thing for me, really... and rather than sit around and bitch about how she's sold out, or whatever (as if I care that much? :), I prefer to just do my own thing and get into artists whose music I find more palatable. I guess, as far as fans go, I'm just not as dedicated as a Backstreet Boys fan, or a "gay N'Sync fan". But I'm still going to go to bed in a few minutes, and I'm still going to sleep real well tonight... :) So there you have it. And don't yell at me... you asked "why aren't you guys?"... and there's your answer. :P Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@concentric.net ICQ UIN: 3106063 AOL IM: kbpease ". . . no I don't need a miracle, but I could use a push in the right direction . . . " ---(The Refreshments, Interstate)--- - --part1_0.6657ca60.255c9eef_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 20:03:10 CST From: "Brian H" Subject: ET: Looking for something Ok, this isn't Jewel related, so I apologize. I just joined Forensics, which is a group of people who prepare some sort of oral presentation of some sort, and present it for judges at competitions and stuff. Now, I'm looking for something to do. If anyone knows any good sources to look for because they've done something like this before, please email me. I'm thinking of doing Poetry or Prose, and I don't think that I'm going to do something Jewel. So, any suggestions? Like of a really good short story for me to read???? Any help would be appreciated [c: ߮I@N "The Jelly Doughnut of an Angel" halaasb@hotmail.com ICQ: 40694569 AIM: brianh5036 Yahoo: jellydoughnut6 Please visit my site: http://come.to/lifeuncommon ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:02:51 -0600 From: Courtney M Gordon Subject: ET: poems Dear yall, It's been a while, i decided to post. Some of you guys may have heard about the explosion in manor for older people, in Flint, Michigan.... That was about 1/4 a mile from where I am... It's really tragic...I'm losing my voice. Today, I went to Dairy Queen with my mom...John (sigh) works there (hence his nickname "D.Q. Man") and uh...he was soooo flirting with this chick there... It really sucked, i was crushed. I did get a hug from him today though cuz I'm sick. :) on to the poems.... new radicals inspiration... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I said wait, have I been seduced and forgotten.... he said baby, haven't we all.... I love you and I'm sorry. I'm sorry that you are incredibly sweet, and that your voice alone makes me want to cry. I'm sorry for you. I'm sorry for you, me, your girlfriend in Detroit. I'm sorry for you because you will never know just how deep this river runs for you, and because you have a girlfriend... And I'm sorry for me because I do know how deeply I feel for you, and I may very well take it to my grave. I love you, and I'm sorry. ~~~~~~~~~~ 4th block ~~~~~ You said it'd be a very cold day in July when you don't notice me.... So I'm just going to sit back here, in my place by the wall, and think about it. I now understand you are my gravity. Everything that holds me to my chains I've created for myself is in your eyes. The same eyes that look in everyone else's direction... The same grey / brown eyes that have created a universe for me, that I may never leave. I sit here, and I wait for something good to come from something I'm certain will destroy me. You walk in, powerful, demanding respect from anyone around you. Two pens in your right pocket, blue on top, black on bottom, just in case. wearing 2 shirts like you always do with your blue Michigan jacket on top. Take me away. Take me to the middle of everywhere. Show me what it is that makes you you. Make me understand. Until you take me away though, I'll just sit here and think. On this cold day in July. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ tell me what ya think! Court ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V2 #324 **********************************