From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #29 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Thursday, January 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 029 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: sam replies, oo ya! [moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Andalite, & The] ET: long distance relationships [ib-3@juno.com] ET: eda-thoughts [nicole kline ] ET: Re: Long Distance Relationships [Lucky997@aol.com] Re: ET: long distance relationships [CLEARVVATR@aol.com] ET:a poem [Jennifer Bergen ] ET: just some sessions ["shivergirl" ] Re: ET: long distance relationships ["Kevin Pease" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 22:13:38 -0800 From: moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Andalite, & The Goddess) Subject: ET: sam replies, oo ya! first... jamie, agreed about the long distance thing. (i didn't say it's impossible.) i didn't know you're in cali cuz of a guy! that kicks. and, um, shoot me, but i also didn't know you lived in new orleans. now things make sense. :) la...ummm. and kat...i'm gona reply to your email soon. till then, take care of yourself. mandabear, good poem. maggie...i'm really sorry about the thing with your mom. alright. love ya all. sam the ? angel moonsong@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:32:00 -0500 From: ib-3@juno.com Subject: ET: long distance relationships >Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 16:19:36 -0800 (PST) >From: Uneaq1@webtv.net (Maggie) >Subject: Re: Re: ET: advice > >Do not do this. My mum moved our whole family for some guy. They've >broken up. This could be one of the bigest fuck-ups of your life. If >you do decide to go with your instincts, BE CAREFUL. Wait at least 18 >months before moving. ANd met this other person at least 10 times, all for >long peoriods of time. If there are any nay-sayers, it's probably for a >reason. > >Maggie > >------------------------------ So here's what I was wondering...and of course, this is a somewhat rhetorical question, because Im not sure it can be accurately measured, but what percentage of ppl on this list _currently_ are/have ever been involved in 'Internet-Relationships'? Thought it might be a good 'thought for the day' We are a 'thoughts' list aren't we? James ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:08:03 -0800 (PST) From: nicole kline Subject: ET: eda-thoughts i have never been involved in an internet relationship. i wanted to ask everyone something though... my boyfriend and i broke up in november and yet we kept seeing each other for a few weeks, still hooking up and all. now we dont even talk although we discussed before that we wanted to be freinds. his new girlfreind has been sending me emails...the first one was to tell me she was dating brian (as she was once my friend, she said she felt inclined to tell me and that she hoped we coudl still be friends.) the way she worded the letter was very sarcastic and i was insulted so i told her i hoped it was all a joke and she wrote me back on monday calling me immature because i didnt want to be her friend anymore. she said she knew nothing about my relationship with brianand all she knew was that we were together. i was tempted to tell her that i was with him the same weekend she was with him but of course i wont do that. the thing i dont know is if i should tell brian that she has been bothering me. but i am afradi to say something to him and then find out that he already knows abotu these hurtful emails. help me! the tiny raining angel nicole _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:26:04 EST From: Lucky997@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: Long Distance Relationships Hey everyone (especially Kat)~ Well I read what Sam wrote about long distance relationships, which was basically- "don't do it." I have to say, I disagree. My boyfriend goes to school in Maryland while I am still in high school here in New Jersey. We have had a long distance relationship since September, and things are great. I miss him more than anything in the world, but I love him, so there is no way I could break up with him. We make sure we see each other about twice a month, or at least every three weeks. It's hard- I'm not going to tell you that it's not- but it's worth it. It's so hard to find someone that you love, don't let someone go just because of distance. : ) Melissa The sad angel whose boyfriend is on the way back to school at this moment b/c his winter break is over : ( ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 15:58:34 EST From: CLEARVVATR@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: long distance relationships In a message dated 1/27/99 7:58:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, ib-3@juno.com writes: > Im not sure it can be accurately measured, but what > percentage > of ppl on this list _currently_ are/have ever been involved in > 'Internet-Relationships'? i have a couple more questions that involve this whole internet relationship thing...what causes ppl to fall for someone they've never met and might not meet if they're thousands of miles away? and...what are the chances that it'll work out (realistically)? does anyone find the internet relationship stuff kinda weird? i'm not trying to prove a point about online relationships with my questions. they're sincere and i'm really intersted in your opinion. jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 13:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jennifer Bergen Subject: ET:a poem I know that I've sent in a couple of poems, but I don't remember if I've sent this one in. This is one of the many poems that I wrote while sitting outside of my dorm building in the middle of the night when it was peaceful and quiet. "Moon Secrets" 6 October, 1998 The moon is a delicate flower Dwindling on in the night. All know it's there, But never pay any attention Or gratitude to it. It lights up our darkness And makes nights lovely. Its soft light peeking through trees Lighting up walkways romantically. The softness around the heart Is the soul, allowing all to see. I know the moon's secrets, For I have seen them, and It has seen mine. I pay attention to it, because It pays attention to me. I know all the moon's secrets, And it knows mine. I wrote this the second week I was away at college. You could imagine how alone I was feeling. All of my friends went away to different schools, and my family was about 100 miles away. I have no car here, and the only way I have to go home is if I call my dad. That's the only way I have to see my family. Then, I met my guy and he helped me make it all better. Well, I guess that's all. Love and Peace Forever, Jen _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 99 17:25:03 PST From: "shivergirl" Subject: ET: just some sessions 23 january 99 ~carpet ramblings~ fetal ball flowered wall all the sand in my body rushing to my head like lead 130 pounds hips and belly just an illusion the weight concentrated all the pain i ate shows up on the witch's x-ray cells wane flabby brain smart as a 60-year-old man with alzeimers not enought diet pills and far too much excess space where memory and lucidity crawl ~love-hate lolita~ i found a way to be prettier i changed my part became more of a wom-an started fussing with the hair instead of the books now i look the sophisticate rapunzel just a wannabe socialite ~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~**~~ nobody can be exactly like me. sometimes even i have trouble doing it. - --tallulah bankhead, actress. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 16:50:58 -0500 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: Re: ET: long distance relationships Two, two, two responses in one. :) >In a message dated 1/27/99 7:58:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, ib-3@juno.com >writes: >> I'm not sure it can be accurately measured, but what >> percentage >> of ppl on this list _currently_ are/have ever been involved in >> 'Internet-Relationships'? I haven't been... I'd actually be extremely surprised if it was more than a small 2 - 5 percent of the people on this list. Even 5% would surprise me. I'm assuming, of course, that "internet relationship" is restricting it to a "love/boyfriend-girlfriend" sort of relationship. I'm sure there's a lot more "just friends", however, and I'd include myself among *that* percentage. Then... >> Jen writes: >I have a couple more questions that involve this whole internet relationship >thing...what causes ppl to fall for someone they've never met and might not >meet if they're thousands of miles away? I suspect it's mostly that the personalities "click", much the same way that it works in person. Strictly physical attraction can carry things for a while, but there comes a point where there has to be a little bit behind the relationship to make it worth keeping up. However, the internet being what it is, it's *really* easy to be someone you're not online. I suspect that every single one of us (myself included) would be different "in person", as opposed to "online". It's an unfortunate side-effect of the medium - people can only know what they're shown, and the rest, they tend to extrapolate. I'd imagine meeting any one of you all, that some impressions I have of you would turn out to be misconceptions. If I wanted to, I could be "anyone" online, and it's entirely conceivable that somebody out there might be taken in by that and even think themselves in love with the person I was presenting myself as. Now that's not to say that everyone is completely different 'in person', or that it's even a controllable thing - you all can't control my impressions of you, just as I can't control your impressions of me. I like to think that I present myself more or less "as is", but again, it's hard to tell what impression my presentation makes. But, to answer the original question, I'd say that the "internet relationship" is based on a love of the personality you attribute to the other person... not necessarily their true personality, but what you conceive their personality to be. >...what are the chances that it'll work out (realistically)? does anyone find >the internet relationship stuff kinda weird? I'd say the chances that it (an 'internet relationship') will work out are probably slim in any given case... but by the same token, how many 'in person' relationships *do* last and work out for the best? From what I've seen, it's a slim proposition, as well. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net ICQ UIN: 3106063 AOL IM: kbpease http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease/ "There oughta be a bridge somewhere they could dedicate to me / I'd probably come to the ceremony with a can of gasoline / then walk on over to the other side, and there I'd light a match / and sit and stare through the smoke & flames wondering how I'm gonna get back." ---(Chris Knight, "It Ain't Easy Being Me")--- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 19:38:16 -0500 From: Mandabear four Subject: ET: Complete Idiots Complete Idiots More Evidence That This World Is Full Of Complete Idiots -------------------------------------------------------- 1. Police in Wichita, Kansas, arrested a 22-year-old man at an airport hotel after he tried to pass two (counterfeit) $16 bills. 2. A man in Johannesburg, South Africa, shot his 49-year-old friend in the face, seriously wounding him, while the two practiced shooting beer cans off each other's head. 3. A company trying to continue its five-year perfect safety record showed its workers a film aimed at encouraging the use of safety goggles on the job. According to Industrial Machinery News, the film's depiction of gory industrial accidents was so graphic that twenty-five workers suffered minor injuries in their rush to leave the screening room. Thirteen others fainted, and one man required seven stitches after he cut his head falling off a chair while watching the film. 4. The Chico, California, City Council enacted a ban on nuclear weapons, setting a $500 fine for anyone detonating one within city limits. 5. A bus carrying five passengers was hit by a car in St. Louis, but by the time police arrived on the scene, fourteen pedestrians had boarded the bus and had begun to complain of whiplash injuries and back pain. 6. Swedish business consultant Ulf af Trolle labored 13 years on a book about Swedish economic solutions. He took the 250-page manuscript to be copied, only to have it reduced to 50,000 strips of paper in seconds when a worker confused the copier with the shredder. 7. A convict broke out of jail in Washington DC, then a few days later accompanied his girlfriend to her trial for robbery. At lunch, he went out for a sandwich. She needed to see him, and thus had him paged. Police officers recognized his name and arrested him as he returned to the courthouse in a car he had stolen over the lunch hour. 8. Police in Radnor, Pennsylvania, interrogated a suspect by placing a metal colander on his head and connecting it with wires to a photocopy machine. The message "He's lying" was placed in the copier, and police pressed the copy button each time they thought the suspect wasn't telling the truth. Believing the "lie detector" was working, the suspect confessed. 9. When two service station attendants in Ionia, Michigan, refused to hand over the cash to an intoxicated robber, the man threatened to call the police. They still refused, so the robber called the police and was arrested. 10. A Los Angeles man who later said he was "tired of walking," stole a steamroller and led police on a 5 mph chase until an officer stepped aboard and brought the vehicle to a stop. - --------- End forwarded message ---------- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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