From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #285 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Saturday, November 14 1998 Volume 01 : Number 285 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ET: sam is writing, yippee, sam hasn't written poetry, sobsob, sam's thoughts, bladibla [Uneaq] ET: love - update ["Seth D. Fulmer" ] [none] [moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Andalite, & The Goddess)] [none] [mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four)] ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #281 [Lucky997@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:59:39 -0800 (PST) From: Uneaq1@webtv.net (Maggie) Subject: Re: ET: sam is writing, yippee, sam hasn't written poetry, sobsob, sam's thoughts, bladibla - --WebTV-Mail-1959352777-1438 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Arms. Yeah... (picture a dreamy smile) Hey, wait! I'm Anti-boys! Guys. Yeah. (swoon) I have gym class with alot of...guys... And I'm not exatly bummin' Squid aka Maggie Du hast mich. (sp?) Anyone know what that means??? - --WebTV-Mail-1959352777-1438 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.92]) by postoffice-111.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/po.gso.24Feb98) with ESMTP id XAA25568; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:26:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.128.1.71]) by mailsorter-102.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.8/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id XAA21819; Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:26:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from smoe.org (080020908e73.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.204.144]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA17772; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:26:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) with SMTP id CAA26440; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:25:24 -0500 (EST) Received: by smoe.org (bulk_mailer v1.10); Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:25:21 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/listq-jane) id CAA26422 for eda-thoughts-outgoing; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:24:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.12]) by smoe.org (8.8.7/8.8.7/daemon-mode-relay2) with ESMTP id CAA26416 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:24:26 -0500 (EST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA29405 for ; Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:23:51 -0600 (CST) Received: from irv-ca28-50.ix.netcom.com(207.93.50.114) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma029303; Thu Nov 12 01:23:17 1998 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:30:54 -0800 To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org From: moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Andalite, & The Goddess) Subject: ET: sam is writing, yippee, sam hasn't written poetry, sobsob, sam's thoughts, bladibla Sender: owner-eda-thoughts@smoe.org Precedence: bulk angels! tis me, ahh, tis me. Maggie said: >Awww... >Men suck. >No, scratch that. Boys suck. uh-huh. i know the feeling. but they're also those WONDERFUL lovely golden objects that sink into your sight and shine clear in your eyes and you're just dazzled as the sun bounces off their hair... very nice. that's a very nice thing indeed. >And never, ever tell her you like her without actually having a reason. See, this...well, ok, so i've basically been boycotting chatting online, cause, well, anyone remember my long-ago poem 'the chatters'? i just think it rather sucks. i mean, i have a life. no offense to you guys - i just perfer the "touch and it's real" effect. so anyway, i went on a couple times recently and met this guy. so, whatever, my friend says, 'do you like him' and all i said was 'he's cool' and she's like 'i'll hook you up,' and i was like, whoah wait hold that thought for like, forever, b/c i just met this guy. plus, i just don't go for the online crap anymore. anyway, i've known him what, 2 days, and already i'm like, first, i like my life much better w/o chatting, and second, he's all saying he likes me and i'm going, dearie, you've known me TWO DAYS. and then i had to go through that whole explaining thing about how i don't go out with guys on the net. i left out the part about how most of that is b/c i actually like to touch their hair, not just picture it. so...yeah, all this really means is, ugh, you can't LIKE someone when you don't KNOW them, creepies! >Boys. I want a guy. Upgrade, please???? You know, I know some really really fantastic guys. like, 1/2 are friends, but those aren't the ones im' talking about. i'm talking about...others. summer, you know ONE that i'm talking about, ooh lala. and btw summie - i dreamed about evan, interesting huh? anyway, there's one guy especially...oh why am i rattling about all this? whatever! Christie... wow. You go. >Hey guys- I got picked to go to MTV on Tuesday! I am sooooo excited, except I >don't know anyone else who's going : ( So, if you're going, please email me. >Also- I am going tomorrow to audition to ask her a question- and I have NO >idea what to ask. HELP!!! Ok, so what exactly are we talking about here?? Chapter: Wuv. >I AM romantic. Basically, I want a boy for my own, who appricates ME for >something more than a friend... ~~siigh~~ Ok ok so...really, i don't feel like getting into it. but...yeah. ooie. summie so elequently stated: >I AM romantic. Basically, I want a boy for my own, who appricates ME for >something more than a friend... ahh yes...you know, i was just thinking...arms are a really nice thing, y'know? anyone ever thought about that? oh, so i sound a bit bizarre now, well, so ha. >I am just this, and I've gone through that so many times... Guys I love adore >me, they love me, they flirt with me, I'm their best friend and I think it's >wonderful... Yup...my thing with this is, "if this gorgeous divine being can't be mine, then goddammit, I'm going to get as close to him as possible and be his bud for life." Basically that, yeah. But you see, that's my CHOICE. The PROBLEM comes in when guys just attach themselves to you and you're like, "umm, and did you ever consider a ROMANTIC interest?" ok lemme see, umm, poems, have i written any...sheet...(that's 'sh1t' with an accent, don't ask me why, and don't ask me what kind, because i can't tell you). UM! poems. poems, poems, poems...nope. however, lemme show you something...let's see...i just wrote this to a different list but you guys might be interested. here tis: I saw the Dead Poet's Society tonight. I swear, I've just gotten done having a double dose of depressing movies about teenage oppression. One was D.P.S. The other was PUMP UP THE VOLUME and wooooooooooo! I'm curious about what you guys think about these movies, and how you think they relate to each other, what the issues are, the differences. I'm very interested to know. Christian Slater and Ethan Hawke (Slater in Pump and Ethan in Dead) did excellent jobs, in my opinion, at portraying different yet similar characters that become free. Lots of issues about parents that don't understand the youth and don't try to, schools that are horrible, and becoming hopeful, empowered and true to yourself. I thought both, but especially Pump, was very good at giving inspiration to pursue your hopes and dreams, and that you can CHANGE the world. I know this is a very cliche, overused term, "change the world," but I really do believe in it. I think one of the main problems is that we have forgotten - no, we don't believe that we can make a difference. But even the littlest things make differences, and you CAN make them big. I heard something on the radio (I think it was there) about how, after a certain age, most people level out what they believe, listen to, etc., as well as their energy; we the YOUNG are the ones who can still make a difference. We see society and the world and the way things are, and we're disgusted, we know it can change - and we will or we must, we've got to believe it too, because if we don't, then soon enough we just fade it off and think, "someone else will do it someday," or, "things really aren't that bad." It's now while we're vibrant that things can change. Anyway, so that's just a dip into what I think...I thought they were amazing movies, beautiful, touching, thought-provoking, and totally depressing. And that's some of what I think the movies expressed. Alrighty, not too many poems at the moment but i feel like writing so we will see what is uncovered for you guys tomorrow!!!! ['sides, i gotta get crackin' to make it to doc's applauses. - - - - - KIDDING! hehehe.] love and music, Sam the ? angel "i used to be a superhero, no one could hurt me, no not even myself. you were like a phone booth that i somehow stumbled into, now look at me, i am just like everybody else" - ani difranco, "superhero" moonsong@ix.netcom.com - --WebTV-Mail-1959352777-1438-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 11:15:03 -0500 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: love - update Ok, everyone, Ok, everyone was suggesting that I talk to her. (no offense)I know about talking to people and communicating but it can't work if the other person's not around to talk to. About the trusting issue....I don't trust anyone. I have faith that they won't betray me...but if I trust people, it's like sticking my back out for them with sign saying "Thrust here". Normally I could ignore/forget her(as a person) but with caring for her like I do...Forgetting her would have caused me a lot of pain. When she wasn't online, I automatically expected the worst and my mind is VERY overactive. I expected that she was like all the rest, and she's not. She was online Thursday night after I got back from Theatre practice and then Friday when I was at work...I had sent a questionaire and she attacked me "YOU THINK BRANDY IS UGLY?!?" and at the time I was upset about the fact that I was in the middle of editing a program for work and the window pops up...But when we got that all figured out, we were talking some. I never really brought up anything but we just chatted...I had sent her a questionaire my sister sent me(with my info in) and she sent it back. She actually isn't freaked out. She considers me a good friend and cares about me. I'm still perplexed by the emotions though cuz I really have no clue if it's love or really good friendship(I know I feel more for her than I do for my long time friends Dennis and Andy)...and like her friend on Thursday evening was telling me "She's busy" and I'm like (cynically)"Busy doing what? Ignoring me?" and now I could really care less. I really feel like an asshole(sorry to the kids on the list). I guess I was listening to "Carnivore" and "Love me just leave me alone" too much lately. hehe :) Although, even with all the pleasure being with her gives me...I would still give anything for the logic to return to me...It's like I'm under some spell and If it pertains to her, I can't think straight. Well, I'm done rambling...For now we're friends. God willing it stays that way, although Fate's let me down before...That means it can, and might do it again. Seth Fulmer mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu mailto:st96t879@post.drexel.edu mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com webpages: http://www.voicenet.com/~kaosking Cool Quotes and stuff :) "I used to know you...But not anymore...Your substance has been subtracted...Word by word" - -Jewel "Carnivore" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:04:49 -0800 From: moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charlie, Andalite, & The Goddess) Subject: [none] angels... well here are some sort-of's.. sam the ? angel the newsmen say an eclipse today will bring shadows unto hearth and I just sigh for what my life is worth a scar, a yellow stain spread across the blinds shut against the sky before it dims and dies and before I'm left it was sweet, the milky touch of dawn but lies, all lies for the neighbors do not cry you are not here either all is done destiny and the ship would have to bring a goddess to grant the sea a path after the sun has dimmed in aftermath of time then, the world can be rebuilt all worlds, except mine rising ophelia, how is it so blind and I am so alone in my world, all my own empty platters, unlocked doors to let evening out all alone, but in agony to bemoan the depth that drowns my heart you've done your part, destiny and now I'm here surrounded by nothing only myself, and myself at all desperately extinguished and diminished and so small in the wake of all this emptiness lonliness that knows no fall I am alone, leave well, you've shown now, al is undone, my gone loved one I cannot outrun what lies in destiny nov. 98 sm - - - - - - - - - - when you get this letter, enclosed with pages, carefully written, painstakingly made to be perfect;- when you get this letter stamped with a painting from LACMA, I hope you read me in the lines the ink scratched & soaked up the paper & the words were meant for your ears but you probably get so many letters that you forget to read them anymore and so the sun, instead, touches the envelope with its rays as it reaches in through the window, finding it cast aside in some nook where only its searching fingers can find the unread letter at some unknown time of day; and far away, awaiting an answer in jotted form in a warm sunset afternoon, the sender hears only silence in the mailbox they had hoped, when you got that letter, that you'd recognize the writing and stash it in your backpack to read on the bus of your life,- but instead it remains unseen, unlocked only by the sky, and scattered by time, just as I, too, was never read nov. 13, 98 sm moonsong@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:20:22 -0500 From: mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four) Subject: [none] Maggie, du hast mich means "you hate me" in German. It's by Rammstein. <3 always ~Mandabear~ Somewhere down the road there'll be answers to the questions. Somewhere down the road though we cannot see it now. Somewhere down the road you'll find mighty arms reaching for you. And they will hold the answers at the end of the road. -Amy Grant- ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 22:16:17 EST From: Lucky997@aol.com Subject: ET: Re: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #281 Ok guys- I don't feel well and I'm sooo bored, so I'm going to do this survey thing. << >> What's your name? Melissa >> Have you ever..... >> drank alcohol? yes...I love Malibu baybreezes >> broke the law? oh yeah...on Halloween I broke into a building in DC at 3:30 in the morning...but that's a long story >> had sex? no >> ran away from home? yes...last year I had a big fight so I went to my best friend's house and slept there...on a school night...what a rebel > Lied? yeah...I'm a very good liar...is that a good thing or a bad thing? > played strip poker? not yet >> broken a bone? no thank god >> cheated on a test? yeah, in chemistry...it never helped much though...oh i also cheated on my written test to get my driving permit >> skinny dipped? not yet > had a medical emergency? when I was little I was in a pretty bad car accident, the car flipped over and landed upside down in a ditch...that was kind of an emergency >> >> ***Do you believe in.... >> love at first sight? no, i believe in chemistry at first sight that can lead to love, but i think that true love has to come after some time >> luck? yup >> God? I believe there is a higher power, but I don't know if I believe in the conventional "God" >> aliens? definitely >> horoscopes? kind of, I mean, they're right too often to be ignored, but wrong too often to be concrete >> ghosts? yes... >> heaven? sure >> hell? i don't believe in the whole really hot place with devils, but I mean, hell can exist here on earth...war is hell... >> yourself? yes : ) >> >> ***Which is better... >> Coke or Pepsi? neither, orange juice >> Oranges or apples? oranges! >> One pillow or two? one >> Deaf or blind? that's such a hard one,but I'd have to say blind...I couldn't live without music >> Pools or hot tubs? i LOVE hot tubs >> Blondes or brunettes? brunettes i guess,but I have nothing against blondes, and red heads are fine too Tall or short? I'm short...5'1"...and I wish I was taller...but short is cute too....I don't know! >> TV or radio? well I don't know, I don't watch that much tv, but what I do watch is good, and the radio isn't really that good except for 104.3, so I'm going to say just listening to music > item you most worship? ummmmmmmm my tie-dye Ben and Jerry's shirt >> ***About the opposite sex: >> Honestly, what do you notice first? their clothes, their eyes >> Must-have personality trait: kindness >> Hair~curly or straight? straight usually >> Hair~long or short? short usually >> What kind of things do you find romantic? so much...letters and flowers of course but the little things more, like random little kisses...or the other day I was in a really crowded room with my boyfriend and he blew me a kiss and mouthed I love you from across the room...things like that make me melt >> Thing you hate most about: they can be so...insensitive sometimes > thing you love most about them? I love it when they wrap their arms around you and you feel so at home >> >> ***When was the last time you.... >> took a shower? about an hour ago >> watched Bambi? years and years ago >> cried? Monday night >> got a real letter? 2 days ago >> >> ***What is..... >> your most prized & important possession? the book where I write my poetry, letters I've gotten, my teddy bear >> your good luck charm? this rock my friend Melanie gave me >> the worst song you've ever heard? Backstreet Boys or Metallica >> the most embarrassing CD in your collection? ummm I don't know, I'll say, Boys to Men >> your bedroom like? well it's under construction, I just got the walls painted, I'm looking for some cool pictures and posters to put up > biggest accomplishment? passing chemistry > proudest moment? my poetry being praised >song that describes you? Rebecca by Pat McGee Band, if you've heard of them, let me know! >> your biggest fear? losing someone that I love >> your family like? usually very supportive and cool >> your most humiliating moment? i don't know, i don't get embarassed that easily. >> your favorite thing for breakfast? orange blossom muffins >> your favorite thing for lunch? some type of pita >> your favorite thing for dinner? chicken fingers >> the best thing that happened to you today? i found out that i could go visit my boyfriend at school on Friday >> >> ***What do u think about.... >> abortion? i'm pro-choice >> Bill Clinton? it's enough already! >> pre-marital sex? if you're in love and in a relationship for a while, I think it's a good thing >> religion? blind faith kind of scares me > hanson? i'm not a fan > Alternative music? it's ok > rap? not a fan > country? not a fan > 80's? i love the 80's...not so much the music...just the era > other types of music? I like classic rock, folk, jazz, i LOVE music >> >> >> **.WHO.. >> makes you laugh the most? my friend Ben, my best friend Lindsey >> is the stupidest person you know? this girl Rachel- let me think of a good story- ok, we're in the car the week before christmas and she turns to me and goes- "I didn't know there were that many people in this town with the last name Noel." Or how about the time she said,"You guys are like the three stooges-Moe! Larry! and Stu!" Stu? Or what about when she said, "JOE! J- E- O, JOE!" I could go on forever... >> do you have a crush on (unfamous)? Jay : ) >> do you have a crush on (famous)? Scott Wolf, Ethan Embry, Johnny Whitworth, Matt Damon >> do you go to for advice? Lindsey, my mom >> do you hate? i don't really "hate" anyone but I don't like fake people >> knows the most about you? Lindsey >> has it easier, guys or girls? I don't know, i think it's kind of even > how many on your buddy list? ummm 110 > do you save e-mails ? interesting ones > when do you go online? random times > best lyrics from a song? i love music, hence, I love a lot of songs. but the songs that I have been especially loving lately are Rain King by Counting Crows,It's Alright Ma by Dylan, Fire on a Mountain by the Dead and Haven't Seen For a While by Pat McGee Band. Since I'm sure that like none of you have heard of Pat McGee, I'm going to post the lyrics: Pat Mcgee Band Haven't Seen For A While As i lie here in bed, your smile fills my head. And I'm using this pen to talk to you, in a southern way It's been weeks since I've seen you last, the time away from you ain't moving too fast. Wishing by some other way, just to see you again (Chorus:) I'm there by your side, looking in your eyes seeing you and me, what else could there be? If i could get away, I'd be there today, you'd be wearing that smile I haven't seen for a while. I wake up everyday go through the same routine, go to work, come home, what does it all really mean? Check the mail, just hoping to find, another note from you would ease my mind. It's 5:15 I can picture you driving home from that same old scene. In 5 you'll hear the phone ringin', we'll have to settle for talking again (Chorus) I can picture you now, you're standing outside your house. The breeze is blowin' off the northern shore, and I'm loving you more. I long for the day, when there's no goodbyes. WIsh I could see you, wipe the tears from your eyes. Tell you everything is alright, lay you down, say to you goodnight.... (Chorus) >> ********addition******** >> 1) Are you currently in a relationship?yes, very happy >> 2) Do you drink? a tad >> 3) Do you do drugs? no >> 4) Do you have a lot of friends? yes, only a few true friends >> 6) Have you ever thought of killing yourself? not seriously... >> 7) Have you ever lost someone you loved? yes >> 8) Have you ever witnessed a crime? no >> 9) Do you have a job? during the summer I'm a camp counseler for the most adorable kids >> 10) Are you a good student? but of course, and i study life >> 11) Do you have siblings? a little brother and little sister >> 12)Do you get along with your parents? more than most do >> 13) Are you involved in sports? is dance a sport? (currently on hold >>though) >> 14)Have you ever stolen anything (from a store)? briefly...hehehe...it >>was a ring - worth like 5 cents - that my friend took for me (I returned >>it) >> 15)Have you ever gotten a ticket for speeding? i wish i could drive >> 16) Do you have a deep dark secret no one knows but you? sure i do, >>not too dark maybe... >> 17)Do you have a car? No already >> 18) Have you ever done something you regret now? yeah >> 19)Have you ever moved? yep >> 20)Have you ever totally lost respect for someone? oh yeah >> 21)Do you think dreams eventually come true? definately so! > What are your plans for... > marriage? geesh, i'm still young! it'll be whatever i dream it to be > a future family? nice > tonight? to read and to sleep in my comfy bed > reading a book? uh...like, reading it, yup...i have tons i wana read. >doncha love the catcher in the rye? i can't believe i don't own it, it's >a crime > the year 2000? making it a good one >> ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V1 #285 **********************************