From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #279 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Wednesday, November 11 1998 Volume 01 : Number 279 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: ET: poem [Uneaq1@webtv.net (Maggie)] ET: Friends? Yeah, we're friends.... [mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four] ET: I Hate Crimes [mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four)] ET: here`s my story ["Christie Ambert" ] ET: I got picked!!!!! [Lucky997@aol.com] [none] [mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four)] ET: love - questions from time ever after ["Seth D. Fulmer" ; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:19:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 27600 invoked from network); 10 Nov 1998 04:19:50 -0000 Received: from read104-pri.voicenet.com (HELO king) (207.103.109.70) by mail11.voicenet.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 1998 04:19:50 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19981109231901.006de208@unix01.voicenet.com> X-Sender: kaosking@unix01.voicenet.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:19:01 -0500 To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: poem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-eda-thoughts@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Here's a poem I wrote a few days ago...Just between me and you guys, I doubt this person's too happy to talk to me...She says she's cool with me but I won't buy it. I think I'll just let her go and if she talks to me, she talks to me. If months, years, decades go by and she doesn't ever say anything more to me, then so be it....But for now...here it is. :) - ------------------------------- Sting of the Honeybee by Seth D. Fulmer 11/4/98 Why oh why must the bite so much sting? The venom is weak but the wound is so big The touch of another, a personality so grand should not hurt so like that of a cobra The memory fades as time passes on The backwash of pain continues to hurt but the pleasure of the sting and the beauty of her touch has made death for me owe to beauty so much Conversations with death, an angel quite feared has lead to a respect that others won't dare A kiss from a queen from a kingdom of honeybees might lead to some swell lips filled with a poison a sweet kind of poison which soothes while it burns while the pain is desolving your ability to yearn Fire in its basic state, water set in chaos Life is in a panic while love is set in motion People feel the sting of cupid shooting them quite senseless It stings, and then burns with all of our desires Seth Fulmer mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu mailto:st96t879@post.drexel.edu mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com webpages: http://www.voicenet.com/~kaosking Cool Quotes and stuff :) "I used to know you...But not anymore...Your substance has been subtracted...Word by word" - -Jewel "Carnivore" - --WebTV-Mail-220464391-9-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:49:59 -0500 From: mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four) Subject: ET: Friends? Yeah, we're friends.... Hey all, wasup? Pass this on to all of your friends. SIMPLE FRIENDS AND REAL FRIENDS ~~A simple friend can stand by you when you are right, but a real friend will stand by you even when you are wrong ~~A simple friend identifies himself when he calls. A real friend doesn't have to. ~~A simple friend opens a conversation with a full news bulletin on his life. A real friend says, "What's new with you?" ~~A simple friend thinks the problems you whine about are recent. A real friend says, "You've been whining about the same thing for 14 years. Get off your duff and do something about it." ~~A simple friend has never seen you cry. A real friend has shoulders soggy from your tears. ~~A simple friend doesn't know your parents' first names. A real friend has their phone numbers in his address book. ~~A simple friend brings a bottle of wine to your party. A real friend comes early to help you cook and stays late to help you clean. ~~A simple friend hates it when you call after he has gone to bed. A real friend asks you why you took so long to call. ~~A simple friend seeks to talk with you about your problems. A real friend seeks to help you with your problems. ~~A simple friend wonders about your romantic history. A real friend could blackmail you with it. ~~A simple friend, when visiting, acts like a guest. Real friend opens your refrigerator and helps himself/herself. ~~A simple friend thinks the friendship is over when you have an argument. A real friend knows that it's not a friendship until after you've had a fight. ~~A simple friend expects you to always be there for them. A real friend expects to always be there for you! ~~Pass this on to anyone you care about. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:54:13 -0500 From: mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four) Subject: ET: I Hate Crimes Tonight, October 14, The Claremont Colleges held a candlelight >vigil in remembrance of Matthew Shepard, the twenty-one year old >college student who was beaten to death by two students recently. >Matthew was tied up, pistol-whipped with a .357 Magnum until his >skull broke, and left for dead. Matthew died simply because he >was >gay. In honor of him, and everyone who has ever been the >target of a >hate crime, I am asking you all to sign this letter, and pass >it on to everyone that you know. The letter is just a start; take this chance to tell people how you >feel about this terrible event. Let all your friends and >acquaintances know that this is wrong, and it will not be >tolerated. Step up to the challenge, educate people on the horror of a hatred that runs this deep, and do not let anyone forget Matthew Shepard and all who have endured hate crimes. 1.) Cristen Blanding > 2.) Chris Plevin > 3.) Dan Costello > 4.) Patrick Young > 5.) Isaac Scranton > 6.) Mary Cooley > 7.) Emily Lyman > 8.) Marty Zeller > 9.) Jessica Buster > 10.) Tedin Lange > 11.) Erika Kitty > 12.) Myk Antos > 13.) Chanel Prunier > 14.) Kristin Griffiths > 15.) Amanda Stachelek > 16.) Maggie Lee > 17.) Lindsay George > 18.) Kimmy Beer > 19.) Jeff Newell > 20.) Amy Brousseau > 21.) Tom Blanchard > 22.) Tina Courtney > 23.) Sarah Kane > 24.) Kristen George > 25.) Sarah Hudson > 26.) Laura Pennace > 27.) Sheri Edwards > 28.) Jeri S. Moody > 29.) Jen Waddell > 30.) Kristyn Cunningham > 31.) Christine Monaco > 32.) Megan Smallidge > 33.) Abbey Leroux > 34.) Joe Scalora > 35.) Laura Quimby > 36.) Lauren Salk > 37.) Lisa Nonken > 38.) Sarah Kimball > 39.) Sarah Schultz > 40.) Cathy Stahl > 41.) Laura McDonnell > 42.) Kim Sipple > 43.) Crystal Hill > 44.) Tori DelliCarpini 45.) Amanda Guillemette ________________________________________________________________ Get secure free e-mail that you don't need Web access to use from Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software at http://www.juno.com/getit.b.html. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:15:21 -0700 From: "Christie Ambert" Subject: ET: here`s my story I stopped writing a couple of months ago..for those of you that dont know me I`m Christie I`m 21 yrs old and i was born and raised in Puerto Rico. I stopped writting because I sank in a big depression rather than follow my shrink`s advise and keep on writing I stopped completely. I felt I didnt belong in my world anymore and so I started to really independized my sef from friends and family .It came to a point where a month and 1/2 ago I went on vacation with my parents to visit my relatives that live in Fl, I enjoyed the peace there so much i came back to Puerto Rico thinking if could move there i think I could get better a change would do me some good. A week later, I told my parents I wanted to move to Florida,USA. After my father yelling for a few days he came to understand that I had made up my mind and that I was leaving soon. I wrote it down in my journal,my goal to leave my life in P.R. behind. That monday Oct.13th I wrote my resignation and I gave it to the Vice-President of the mortgage bankers where I worked at.In the letter I wrote that there were things I wanted to do in life and I wouldn`t be able to accomplish in the Island,so I left my job I was a marketing assistant to the owner of the companies`s son. I think my boss was the only person who said that he wished I wouldnt leave. I bought a one way ticket to Orlando Florida that weekend. October 31st,1998 I got on that plane after saying good bye to my parents my big sister,who`s my best friend in life and my little sister and I moved to Florida. A drastic change like that has done me some good I think I has actually improve my situation, sometimes you have to put some land between the people you really love because sometimes those people can be the one standing in the way of your hopes and dreams.So I dont worry about that anymore,like Jewel`s new song says worrying is wasteful.I still talk to my parents and my sisters everyday on the phone. I think I`m going to be ok here in Florida. I got a job that same week I got here and I`ve met some locals and people here tend to be really nice. I think I`m going to recover I will write my poetry again, and I will survive.... be good my angels with lots of love..... Christie The Flowerchild Angel Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:33:42 EST From: Lucky997@aol.com Subject: ET: I got picked!!!!! Hey guys- I got picked to go to MTV on Tuesday! I am sooooo excited, except I don't know anyone else who's going : ( So, if you're going, please email me. Also- I am going tomorrow to audition to ask her a question- and I have NO idea what to ask. HELP!!! <3Melissa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:02:28 -0500 From: mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four) Subject: [none] Melissa, Who are you going to ask what? ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:00:30 -0500 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: love - questions from time ever after Ok, I have a question(s) for you all... What is Love? Like How do you know if something is "it" or just really that you value someone's friendship? Like, a few days ago, I confessed how I feel about my friend Melissa...Now, she seems cool but she doesn't feel the same way...like Duh? How can you feel good about someone who looks like a hellspawn? She said she would let me know if I got annoying or freakish or something...but like she seems away or offline more than usual now. I don't trust her because her(and my old) friend Becki blocked me off of her AIM list for no reason whatsoever(She was so sociable last year and then summer...and now she blocked me)...and like I asked my sister to put Melissa on her AIM list so that I could ask her if she was online. But like last night she was away and the night before she was away...her message both nights was that she was watching a movie, so I messaged her "How's the movie" and right away she went offline...I haven't seen her since. And I kept asking friends to see if she was really online, and she wasn't...Now, I was worried cuz I have no clue why she's offline...Not that it's any of my business, but then I dunno...If I had totally ignored how I felt, everythign would be fine and we could go back to nice little chats about anything at all, and now I wouldn't have to distrust her....I have no clue how to act normal anymore...and like every song that comes on the radio, CD, VH1...every email I read, I think of her. We were listening to Oasis...Tracks 3,4, 12...all 3 made me think of her...I get home and hear Celine Dion's "My Heart will go on", I see an email by someone named "Melissa"...I am not hungry right now at all...I can convert the sadness to anger but I have no place to put the anger. I have to act tonight, and the director has no tact or people skills whatsoever...and I just know tonight she's going to complain about something and I am Sooooo ready to run off the stage and give her a piece or 2 of my mind. I have to laugh on stage as part of my character and it hurts so much to even think about perking a smile let alone laughing. I listened to Carnivore and "Love me just leave me alone", and "Sometimes it be that way" and I break out in tears, even though she has no problem with me(or so she says...How can I trust her?) Like...For all I know she might be sick or she might be ignoring me. If she's ignoring me...I will block her myself so that I can get on with my life, but if I'm wrong, I'm denying her something. Maybe someone can shed a light on either what is going on inside this little ferret up here (points to head) or how to kill the darn thing and get on with my life, either with Melissa as a friend or forgetting about her all together and never seeing her again. Seth Fulmer mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu mailto:st96t879@post.drexel.edu mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com webpages: http://www.voicenet.com/~kaosking Cool Quotes and stuff :) "I used to know you...But not anymore...Your substance has been subtracted...Word by word" - -Jewel "Carnivore" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:07:40 -0600 From: Summer Burton Subject: Re: ET: love - questions from time ever after Seth, I'm so sorry you're going through this right now, it sounds really tough and just a little bit like an...obsession/crush/love/wahteverit'scalled a few months ago that reached truly horrible heights of me staying up all night in tears and getting sick over the whole thing.. I think that love is a many splendored thing, but too much of it, particuarly unreturned, can drown you... It's good to get away and think about something else..., but I know that seems impossible when you're deeply infatuated. Just take the opportunitys for new things to concentrate on when they come.. And now it's my turn to ramble.. I've had a wonderful couple days and now it's turned depressed cause of a stupid TV show.. Basically, on the show (the only thing I ever watch ) there's a character who reminds me very much of ME - she's talkative, silly, fairly smart, occasionally mean (with out meaning to be), and easily infatuated. She's not had the most succesfull romantic history because guys think of her as a friend, as her latest infatuation does, although there are hopes of more, she thinks.. I am just this, and I've gone through that so many times... Guys I love adore me, they love me, they flirt with me, I'm their best friend and I think it's wonderful... Andthen they call me to ask me for advice about their huge crush on..my friend Kate. Or someone else. Whatever. The point is, I'm not even... in their datability radar. This isn't me with low self esteem, it's an easily noticed fact - even my father will tell you how it is (with an added "you're just the kinda girl they want to MARRY" at the end)... the problem is that as much as I love being friends with guys, I AM boy xrazy, I AM romantic. Basically, I want a boy for my own, who appricates ME for something more than a friend... And tongiht I got depressed about it cause the girl on this show "found love" with her infatuation and I feel like if this was a TV show this should have happened so many episodes ago for me... Agh! Okay, I had to get that out... No need for a response, of course... :-) - -- Love & Spiffiness, - -Summer summie@bonbon.net http://www.bga.com/~melissab "would I be whining if I said I needed a hug?" - -Alanis Morrisette ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V1 #279 **********************************