From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #231 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Wednesday, September 30 1998 Volume 01 : Number 231 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: a poem/song/hymn/lullaby/memory thing [moonsong@ix.netcom.com (Charli] Re: ET: Come on guys...be nice :) [Uneaq1@webtv.net (Maggie)] ET: re: Scott's post [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Q.2: 2 of several thought provoking questions [Angeljlb96@aol.co] [none] [mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four)] ET: A poem for all you lovely EDA's [Oblivia15@aol.com] ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! [sesykes@juno.com (Sco] Re: ET: Q.2: 2 of several thought provoking questions [sesykes@juno.com (] Re: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! [Mike Connell ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:30:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 20717 invoked by uid 16609); 29 Sep 1998 15:29:23 -0000 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 11:29:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Fulmer X-Sender: kaosking@unix01 To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Subject: ET: Come on guys...be nice :) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-eda-thoughts@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Hey everybody, with the advent of Scott's topic...people seem to react like it's not good. If it's not good, just don't respond :) I choose not to say anything on the issue personally, but as for the validity of the topic...who's to say it's any more or less valid than beauty discussion, or "Does Jewel wear too much make-up?" on the jewel@smoe.org list? So, before you criticize someone on their topic choice, please(and this is just a request) try to remember that this list is for ANY topic. Thank you's go to anyone who listened :) Have an Excellent Day! :) Seth D. Fulmer mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com - --WebTV-Mail-1121957899-2278-- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 01:45:48 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: ET: re: Scott's post In a message dated 98-09-29 14:30:47 EDT, you write: << Looks like it worked, huh? >> Kevin, will you marry me? Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 00:19:42 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Q.2: 2 of several thought provoking questions In a message dated 98-09-29 13:27:31 EDT, you write: << To Mike, Ben, Kevin, and whoever can't stand questions that their scared of. >> Oh, PLEASE add me to this list. I mean really. that's why I didn't answer the question...because I was just to scared to let everyone know that I'd probably kill the pres before Jewel. Either that, or it could be that it's a completely ridiculous question that truly cannot be answered due to the fact that Clinton is our president. You're saying if "anyone" were the president...but um, that's too broad. If Christian Bale were pres, um...bye bye Jewel...so...this question can't be answered unless you're pointing out who the president is. And even if you did, it's still a stupid question because you're talking about killing people. Who the hell cares? I mean...ummm...have you met either? It's not exactly something that matters cuz I doubt any of you know the president, AND Jewel. Jamie, shut the hell up and stop rambling. Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 15:18:19 -0400 From: mandabear4@juno.com (Mandabear four) Subject: [none] I agree with all you about the killing issue...it really shouldn't be a topic of talk...I mean..not about who or what's life is more valueable. I thing Scott did a good thing by asking a genral question but maybe the nature of it wasn't okay with everyone. Personally, it wasn't offensive to me because i just took it at face value as a question to get your mind to think about something other than the normal humbug of life. That may be wrong but like someone once told me: Opinions are like garbage cans. Evryone has them and some of them stink. ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 16:57:42 EDT From: Oblivia15@aol.com Subject: ET: A poem for all you lovely EDA's Hullo everyone (again), How are you all.... I hope you are having a wonderful September..or should I say "had" a wonderful September?...... Anyway.. I wrote another poem and I thought you all might like it... Like always feedback would be great... I hope there is someone else out there on the list who can relate....=0) and........Voila!!!! Don't look my way because I don't think I can take it. I push and push against your tide and try to climb this wall of pain only to be pushed back down to the bottom. I work so hard to overcome you But your voice is on the phone And your face looms before me every day. I came home the other night to find your number on my caller ID. I lost my footing, slipped again, and fell down into the hole you dig for me. The pain surfaced as I went under and I was left moaning on my floor amidst a sea of letters and photographs, tears flooding down my face. Looking into the mirror, I saw helplessness. A girl with nothing to do but accept. A girl with no defenses to protect her fragile spirit as a selfish man forces his way back into her thoughts, raping her senses. I stand, looking up to the top of my ravine and, biting my lip, I find a foothold and push myself up, expecting another fall, But knowing that I will never stop climbing..... Jackie Vaughn 9/28/98 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 18:07:29 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (Scott S.) Subject: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! Okay, you guys want a good one, then here it is! If Jewel WERE to be exposed on the news as having been a user of drugs. Would you still be a fan? Would you still have the same respect for her and her music? please be honest! ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "PEACE CAN BECOME US ALL IF WE STAND UP AND TAKE A FALL!" http://homepage.usr.com/b/breezemaker ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 17:58:35 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (Scott S.) Subject: Re: ET: Q.2: 2 of several thought provoking questions If you don't care then why did you reply to the question? Did you want to follow in Kevin's footsteps and look like a dumbass? If you don't want to answer the question then don't! Hypothetical answers deserve hypothetical answers. I think you put it best in the last line of your post... >>Jamie, shut the hell up and stop rambling. ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "PEACE CAN BECOME US ALL IF WE STAND UP AND TAKE A FALL!" http://homepage.usr.com/b/breezemaker ________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to use the Internet? Get fast, reliable, affordable Web access From Juno, the world's second largest online service. Download your free software here. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:45:27 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! At 07:07 PM 9/30/98 , Scott S. wrote: >Okay, you guys want a good one, then here it is! > >If Jewel WERE to be exposed on the news as having been a user of drugs. >Would you still be a fan? Would you still have the same respect for her >and her music? please be honest! I would lose respect for her as a person, but still be a fan of her music if it was something I enjoyed. I mean for crying out loud.....I'm from the late 60's early 70's :-) .......many of the groups I adored the music of were higher than kites when performing.....The beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Doors, Jefferson Airplane, Crosby (mostly Crosby), Stills, Nash & Young etc. It didn't make it right that they were pretty much in the tub when performing, but I liked their tunes :-) Mike :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:38:12 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: Re: ET: Q.2: 2 of several thought provoking questions >> Scott S. writes: >If you don't care then why did you reply to the question? Did you want >to follow in Kevin's footsteps and look like a dumbass? >If you don't want to answer the question then don't! >Hypothetical answers deserve hypothetical answers. I think you put it >best in the last line of your post... >>>Jamie, shut the hell up and stop rambling. Scott, I know you have a problem with me, and I'm sure everybody else here knows it now, too, if they didn't figure it out before now. That's fine, whatever... I can't please everybody. However... please refrain from beating up on other people because you don't like me. There's no need - and no reason - for personal insults. Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Sitting here at the water's edge now that the storm has gone, First time in years it feels like nothing's wrong, There've been a lot of changes, I was so lost for a while, Sitting here I remember how it's easy to smile..." ---(Heather Nova, "Grow Young")--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 19:50:42 -0500 From: Summer Burton Subject: Re: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! Mike Connell wrote: > At 07:07 PM 9/30/98 , Scott S. wrote: > >Okay, you guys want a good one, then here it is! > > > >If Jewel WERE to be exposed on the news as having been a user of drugs. > >Would you still be a fan? Would you still have the same respect for her > >and her music? please be honest! > > I would lose respect for her as a person, but still be a fan of her music > if it was something I enjoyed. Hmm..I disagree with "lose respect for her as a person".. I would disagree with her decision, yes, but I wouldn't actually lose respect for her.. Drugs are a horrible mistake, but a common one that some great people have made. I have respect for John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix and some freinds of mine who've used drugs. I find it a flaw in their character that they would do such a, frankly, stupid thing, but I still have respect for other things about them... - -- Stay Spiffy! Love, Summer summer@disnoids.org http://www.bga.com/~melissab "When you cry in such great sorrow / it will not last long for love will always come tomorrow / and then you will be strong" - -Naiman Rigby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:49:57 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! >> Scott S. writes: >If Jewel WERE to be exposed on the news as having been a user of drugs. >Would you still be a fan? Would you still have the same respect for her >and her music? please be honest! I'll have to agree with Mike here... I'd still be a fan of her music, but I'd lose some respect for her as a person. I'm sure that some, maybe even lots, of the music that I like that was probably either written, performed, or recorded, under the influence of some sort of drug... knowing that the artist was under the influence of something wouldn't ruin my enjoyment of the music, but it would make me lose respect for the artist, as a person... Kevin - ---------- Kevin Pease kbpease@boston.crosswinds.net (ICQ UIN: 3106063) (AOL Instant Messenger: kbpease) http://www.crosswinds.net/boston/~kbpease "Sitting here at the water's edge now that the storm has gone, First time in years it feels like nothing's wrong, There've been a lot of changes, I was so lost for a while, Sitting here I remember how it's easy to smile..." ---(Heather Nova, "Grow Young")--- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 21:16:53 -0400 From: Mike Connell Subject: Re: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! Scott asked: >> >If Jewel WERE to be exposed on the news as having been a user of drugs. I replied: >> I would lose respect for her as a person, but still be a fan of her music >> if it was something I enjoyed. Summer replied: >Hmm..I disagree with "lose respect for her as a person".. I would disagree >with her decision, yes, but I wouldn't actually lose respect for her.. Drugs >are a horrible mistake, but a common one that some great people have made. Good point Summer! :-) I should clarify. I read Scotts' message as being the exposing meaning she's *been* doing them. However she's always said she's never tried them. I would lose respect since she had lied. AT least some anyway. (I understand Summer's point and agree with what she is saying.....no question :-) I would feel bad....I'd wanna help....I'd call her mom and Bibi and express my concern/care....I'd hope she'd kick the habit....I'd be pulling for her all the way. However, I'd still lose some for her for lying........heck, I lost some for her for saying on at least 5 angelfood tapes I have "this is the first time I've played the electric guitar at a show" and ALL five took place AFTER I saw her play it in New Hampshire. It's not deceitful on her part.....she's not a bad person for doing it....but I have to wonder why she does/did it. (is it a form of "selling out"?) Mike :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:35:24 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (Scott S.) Subject: clarification Re: ET: a question answerable by the smallest heart!!! I just want to clarify something. In no way am i or have i said the Jewel does or has done drugs. This is a hypothetical question and should be treated as so. The last thing i want to happen is for a rumor to fester. ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "PEACE CAN BECOME US ALL IF WE STAND UP AND TAKE A FALL!" http://homepage.usr.com/b/breezemaker ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:38:52 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (Scott S.) Subject: ET: a simple thought chew on DONT LOVE ME CAUSE YOU NEVER KNEW ME, DONT HATE ME CAUSE YOU NEVER MET ME, AND DONT TRY TO KNOW ME CAUSE YOU CANT HANDLE ME! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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