From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #310 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Friday, October 29 1999 Volume 02 : Number 310 * If you ever wish to unsubscribe, send an email to * eda-thoughts-digest-request@smoe.org with ONLY * the word unsubscribe in the body of the email * . * PLEASE :) when you reply to this digest to send a post TO the list, * change the subject to reflect what your post is about. A subject * of Re: eda-thoughts-digest V2 #xxx or the like gives readers no clue * as to what your message is about. Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [ET: Euthanasia?] [Naomi Vaughn ] ET: euthanasia ["angel girl" ] ET: A new poem to you, but not really new [JewelAng@aol.com] ET: a short story of mine [JewelAng@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 28 Oct 99 08:55:01 CDT From: Naomi Vaughn Subject: Re: [ET: Euthanasia?] I have actually thought alot about this, as I had a discussion on this very thing w/ a friend of mine several months ago. I think that in cases where the person is too sick to live happily, and is not going to get better... they know they're going to die, ect... I think it should be a choice left up to the individual. Why should the person be forced to prolong their misery? They should have the option. I'm just talking certain cases (as John said it), though, not killing everyone who wants to be killed. And my stance on this is much like my position on abortion, don't even wanna go there... heh. I'm gonna stop now. Take care, and luck w/ your debate John. As ever, Naomi JohnTracy4@aol.com wrote: > I like the discussion we had last time about Gay Parents. This time > however, I may be pushing it. I would like to see what people think about > Euthanasia (Mercy Killing). I have a debate on Friday ( I told you I was > pushing it! ) and I would like to just get a survey on it. You can also > debate about it. Anything helps me. But mainly I will just be converting > into numbers for my debate. > For those of you who don't know what this is, I will explain. Euthanasia > is the killing of persons who are too sick to live happily. Mostly with > people living on machines. But there are other cases, such as the Dr. > Kavorckian cases. Please, send you comments to the list. > Thank you, > > > John -- The Forever Questioning Angel > ICQ - 49575873 > AIM - JohnTracy4 "I just closed my eyes/ my whole world disappeared..." ~Everclear ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:21:11 MDT From: "angel girl" Subject: ET: euthanasia Wow John...you think you could pick a more sensitive topic =0) I have to say I do agree with euthanasia...I think people shouldn't have to live if they are suffering and un-happy. I visit my grandma every week and it gets harder every time...she is in so much pain and so out of it that it kills me to walk in there and try to hold a conversation with her. I don't think other people have any right to put limits on someone else's life. I don't understand where people get off telling others they have to live and they have to be doing such and such a thing...its not fair...limits and rules were meant to be broken. just my thoughts... kerry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:33:25 EDT From: JewelAng@aol.com Subject: ET: A new poem to you, but not really new Here's a poem to share. I haven't let you guys read anything of mine for a long time. I'm going to start sending stuff in. Rebecca *Please give comments, suggestions, or flares!!!* I miss you deeply dear, so much you'll never know. You don't miss me at all but you left my heart bleeding in a corner. The same corner I would run to when you didn't treat me right. I'm trying to mend my broken heart and fill the emptyness. Rain is the only thing that will fill the cup you left me with. But even that is only a temporary releaf. So I pray now baby that you will leave me go. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:40:20 EDT From: JewelAng@aol.com Subject: ET: a short story of mine Hi, Read if you like, delete if you don't. I wrote this for class, it's my kinda gay love story, but so be it. Tell me if you read it and what you have to say about it. Thanks. The Road Trip I can't believe it. I can't believe I am actually sitting here next to Arden. I can't believe I am taking a road trip to Alaska, but here I am. I'm with the man I have been hopelessly falling in love with. I hope by the end of this trip we can be more than just friends. "Hey Arden, when do you think we can stop for a little while? Rena asked. "Um, as soon as there is another rest stop. I need to stretch my legs a bit." "Good." Arden looked over and saw her smiling. He felt his heart flip over. Suddenly, Rena started laughing and Arden joined in with her. How long they laughed Arden couldn't figure out, but he felt a little less tension between them slip away. He still couldn't believe he had asked Rena to come along. They were good friends, but Arden knew his feelings were more than just friendship. "Right there is a rest stop." Rena pointed "So there is." "Of course." Rena said sarcastically. She gave him a dazzling smile and he felt his heart do that little trick again. Rena noticed the softening of his eyes. She also saw a faint blush on his cheeks. She could not believe that she had made Arden blush. The car veered to the right and they pulled into a parking lot of a lush green rest area. There was a small concrete building up ahead that Arden guessed was the bathrooms. Under an areas shaded by large trees was a cluster of picnic tables. They stepped out of the car into the chilly autumn air. Arden grabbed a cooler from the back seat and they headed to a picnic tables to eat supper. Arden broke the silence by saying "I hope you don't mind we didn't stop somewhere for hot food." "Of course." Again Arden got graced with her beautiful smile. No one could have missed the look of happiness on her face. "I'm glad you came with me, Rena." He said as he grabbed her hands from across the table. They ate supper in peaceful silence. After eating they headed back to the car. Once he put the cooler in the car he walked around to the other side to the car where Rena stood. When he saw her, his breath caught in his throat. The setting sun made her long brown hair gleam a majestic red. When he came closer he could see a single tear slide down her face. Arden stepped in front of her and gathered her in his arms. "What is wrong, Rena?" He murmured into her hair. "I'm just so happy." He looked her in the eyes as he wiped the single tear away. At that moment he felt the greatest urge of his life, he wanted to kiss her. Rena saw the look in his eyes too. She knew that Arden wanted to kiss her. Her hand slowly came to his face. She could feel his warm breath against her cool cheek. Slowly he closed the distance between their mouths. He gave her a soft sweet kiss on her lips. They slowly parted and he laid a kiss on her forehead. Rena wished that his arms would never let her go. Sadly he pulled back a little. Arden opened the passenger door for her and helped her in. After he got into the car and started it up he asked, "Do you mind camping tonight? I think there is a campground up the road." "Yeah, that's perfectly fine." About a mile up the road they found the campground. It was an attractive little place, with a small clear lake. The sun at this point had almost set, but they managed to set up the tent. Once camp was set up they headed toward the bathhouse. On the spur of the moment Arden grabbed her hand and held it in his own. He knew this be a wonderful night just because he could be with her. Rena seemed very quiet and he hoped he didn't scare her away with his kiss. His fears were stopped when she told him to stop for a minute, and she told him to bend down. Then she gave him the sweetest kiss possible. Arden's arms circled her waist so that their mouths were on the same level. The kiss became little deeper. Rena pulled away, for she feared if she didn't she would never be able to stop. She then placed a soft kiss on his neck. Back at camp Arden started a fire that took away a little bit of the chill. Rena was sitting on a large rock that was big enough for two people, by the fire. After the fire was to liking, Arden sat down next to her. "Are you still cold, Rena?" "Just a little bit." "Hold on a second then." He came back from the car with a dark green blanket she knew was from his bed. He placed it in his hands, on the blanket she could smell him. "Thank you, Arden." "Your welcome." He placed the blanket around her shoulders and placed a soft kiss on her forehead. The light bounced off his jet-black hair and golden brown eyes. He looked beautiful in his faded jeans, scruffy boots, and a sweatshirt that was too large for him. Looking at the straight edge of his jaw and the way he was dressed, she knew she had never seen anything so beautiful. Arden gazed up at the stars, then at beautiful Rena, and lastly his gaze traveled to the fire that was burning red, orange, and a faint blue. He knew at that moment he wanted her. Not just for tonight, but forever. His strong feelings scared him. This was a woman he loved al his life, only more recently as something more. He wrapped one of his arms around her back and kissed along the line of her jaw. She turned to him and her green eyes burned into him. There was more feeling in them now, then he had ever seen in a pair of eyes in nineteen years of life. He stared kissing her, slowly at first and then deeper. Their mouths fit as one, as it they were made for each other. He drew her up now so they were standing in the circle of their arms, as the fire flickered golden and hot. They were dancing slowly to the music of the night. "Arden?" "Yes?" "I think we should go into the tent." ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V2 #310 **********************************