From: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org (eda-thoughts-digest) To: eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Subject: eda-thoughts-digest V1 #199 Reply-To: eda-thoughts@smoe.org Sender: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-eda-thoughts-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk eda-thoughts-digest Tuesday, September 15 1998 Volume 01 : Number 199 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ET: Heather Nova [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Re: [Angeljlb96@aol.com] ET: Re: Heather Nova ["Kevin Pease" ] Re: ET: There's Something About ADAM... [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Top CDs [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: leaving the list [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: Top 10 CDs [Angeljlb96@aol.com] ET: bye [kara garbe ] Re: ET: Believe it or not: A Poem :)) [Angeljlb96@aol.com] Re: ET: bye [sesykes@juno.com (SES Pool)] ET: poems by her, poems by me [Jan Winters ] ET: a poem [zerocool@sunlink.net (Niki)] Re: [ET: bye] [genben@usa.net] ET: thinking too much! [sesykes@juno.com (SES Pool)] ET: confusing situation ["Seth D. Fulmer" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 00:41:43 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: ET: Heather Nova Hellllo =) I'm so whooped. So I was in the CD store today, and like the bitch I am, I bought Oyster. Haven't listened to it yet (although I did listen to it about 2 years ago when I had NO money...and really liked it), but one small step for mankind...yea. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:06:27 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Re: In a message dated 98-09-11 16:42:33 EDT, you write: << Most certainly!Hi Jamie... it's terribly nice to finally make your aquaintance (although I have a strange feeling if that's all it is)... at birth two people who seem to be my parents decided that Ivan was the name I should wear for the rest of my life... so I'm stuck with it... at least when I have to :)) So will you able to sleep now!? :) No it will hount you in your sleep... you asked for it... this curse... HAHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAHHAhahahhahahaa--.... >> You don't know how HUGE of a weight has been lifted off of my chest, IVAN! What a nice name...oooh! *sigh* Such a relief to finally have formally met you, IVAN! I think I can sleep a little better now, thanks, IVAN! *sigh* (I love this shit, IVAN!) ...sorry. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:15:07 -0400 From: "Kevin Pease" Subject: ET: Re: Heather Nova >> Jamie writes: >I'm so whooped. So I was in the CD store today, and like the bitch I am, I >bought Oyster. Haven't listened to it yet (although I did listen to it about >2 years ago when I had NO money...and really liked it), but one small step for >mankind...yea. Prepare to be assimilated. :) Now I'm going to feel bad if you decide you don't like it, after I recommended it so highly here... Just so you know, if you *do* end up liking it, you become morally obligated to harass other people until they buy it, as well. Anyway, hope you like it. let us know what you think. :) Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:16:53 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: There's Something About ADAM... In a message dated 98-09-11 20:28:41 EDT, you write: << . but most of all Raining In Baltimore... >> RIght before I read this I wrote an email to Summer about this, Perfect Blue Buildings, and Anna Begins, but I have to say, this song is IT for me. *sigh* I've cried many a nights to this song... Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:31:38 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Top CDs In a message dated 98-09-11 21:58:14 EDT, you write: << Joni Mitchell's "Blue" Jewel's "Pieces Of You" Counting Crows' "August & Everything After" the "Empire Records" soundtrack They Might Be Giant's "Flood" (TMBG is my particular "weirdo thing" that people never thinks fits with tha rest of my music) The Refreshments' "The Bottle & Fresh Horses" >> I'll keep those but change the Refreshments to the first album =) =) More for you: Tara Maclean-Silence Sarah Mclachlan-Fumbling Towards Ecstacy Tori Amos-Little Earthquakes, and From the Choirgirl Hotel (this is a tape, but still) my Jewel Belgium bootleg Dayna Manning-Volume 1 Steve Poltz-One Left Shoe Ani Difranco-Imperfectly, Out of Range, Dilate, and Not A Pretty Girl Indigo Girls-(this rare thingie I got called) 4.5, Indigo Girls, Rites of Passage, and Swamp Ophelia My Best Friend's Wedding soundtrack That's enough =) Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 01:57:33 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: leaving the list In a message dated 98-09-12 14:07:52 EDT, you write: << When I heard about the list originally, I did not have that impression at all. >> I personally joined the list with the impression that it was for EDAs to share poetry and thoughts. I didn't think it really had anything to do with Jewel. Anyway, I thought it was a great idea cuz I kinda got sick of my posts to the jewel list getting sent back for lack of enough Jewel content. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:04:42 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Top 10 CDs In a message dated 98-09-12 16:58:17 EDT, you write: << You or Someone else like you - Matchbox 20 Tidal - Fiona Apple >> Add these 2, Sublime-40 oz. to Freedom, and DMB Under the table...and Crowded Streets Sorry for the additional pointless post, those who don't like it. Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:10:02 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: kara garbe Subject: ET: bye Hey guys, it's been a fun huge number of months since i joined the list at issue 2. but with school and other commitments I just don't have the time for it any more, and every day it's becoming less of what it was when it started. Sadly I think it's become a place where a few people dominate the conversations with personal messages and random comments, crowding out the other things that I came to the list for. Not that I think the conversations aren't legitimate subject matter for the list, just that it's not what I want any longer. maybe it's not the list, maybe it's me that's changed, but either way, fare thee well. kara _____________________________________________________ "We are each of us angels, with just one wing, and we can only fly embracing each other." --Liciano de Crescenzo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:35:57 EDT From: Angeljlb96@aol.com Subject: Re: ET: Believe it or not: A Poem :)) In a message dated 98-09-13 13:45:51 EDT, you write: << Still it's so nice you wore a dress >> Oh wow, IVAN, I was really really impressed...I'ma print that out. I thought the format you used was really nice. I'm proud of you *claps* =) Love, Jamie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 10:43:56 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (SES Pool) Subject: Re: ET: bye Amen to this>>>>> \/ On Tue, 15 Sep 1998 02:10:02 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) kara garbe writes: >Hey guys, it's been a fun huge number of months since i joined the >list at issue 2. but with school and other commitments I just don't >have the time for it any more, and every day it's becoming less of >what it was when it started. Sadly I think it's become a place >where a few people dominate the conversations with personal >messages and random comments, crowding out the other things that I >came to the list for. Not that I think the conversations aren't >legitimate subject matter for the list, just that it's not what I >want any longer. maybe it's not the list, maybe it's me that's >changed, but either way, fare thee well. > >kara > >_____________________________________________________ >"We are each of us angels, with just one wing, and we can only >fly embracing each other." > --Liciano de Crescenzo > > > ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "WHY DO YOU JUDGE ME, YOU'RE NOT MY PEERS YOU AINT LOVED ME FOR YEARS!" -Tupac Shakur R.I.P _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 19:06:16 -0700 From: Jan Winters Subject: ET: poems by her, poems by me angels today in econ class i felt bored beyond beflief. oh trust me, the stock market is one exciting thing. i'm dating a future stock broker in a year, who is fasinated by what i have learned to hate: numbers. but today i figured something horrible optimistic, which made me realize this dude that i'm dating is rubbing off on me, and i'm becoming less cynical. here it is: econ is an inspiration for poetry. to either read it or write it, 4th hour econ class is now great for poetry. i'll talk to the dude i'm dating about money, stocks and numbers, but for that hour slot every day, i'm talking to myself and other poets. anyhow, i got out an old favorite of mine: julia alvaraz. and read her work again during class. and again i remembered how much i love her. here are a few poems from her for ya. WOMAN FRIEND before you round the corner and are gone I wave and note how easily my palm blots out your car, the motors hum megers with the sunday traffic back from church. you drove up for a weekend visit, to give my life a closer reading, then catch me up on on your story; both plots, this time going well. the heroins about to make the big move we both hope will end in love if not, that's what we're for late nights or weekends when the rates go down, we call and splurge on sadness, bad dreams, or good intentions that become ambivalent in deed, desires to be saved in some big way we've learned ab5out in the movies. always, we bring up love, either in it's past tense as loss or in it's future, longing Afraid of weekend loneliness we meet and call it since we're women, friends Before you left, we hugged, promised absolutes we hope we won't be called to account for midweek when we're hard at work earning the living husbands used to pay for when we were heroines of our mother's stories After you leave, i clean house, fold your bedding roll the mattress back into the couch and tidy any little disorder you created by being here. Ashamed, i've saved my heartbreaks only for the men who come and go.. AGAINST CINDERELLA whoever made it up is pulling my foot so it'll fit that show. i'll go along with the martyrdom- she swept and wept, mended, stoked the fire slaved while her three stepsisters who just happened to oblige their meanness by being ugly, dressed themselves. i'll swallow that there was a singer godmother who magically could sew a pattern up and hem it in an hour, that cinderella got to be a debutante and lost her head and later lost her show. but i stop there. i can't believe only one woman in that town had that size foot, could fit into that show,. i've felt enough of lost and found to know that if you losr your heart to anyone you've crowned into a prince, you might not get it back. that the old kerchief trick, whether you drop a shoe, your clothes, your life doesn't do much but litter up the world that when the knock at last comes to your door, you might not be home or willing. that some of us have learned to go barefoot knowing the mate to one foot is the other. UNTITLED Let's make a modern primer for our kids: A is for Auschwitz; B for Biafra; Chile Dachau; El Salvador; F is the Falklands Grenada; Hiroshima stands for H; Northern Ireland for I j is for Jonestown; K is for Korea; L is for massacres in Lidice; My Lai; N, Nicaragua; O, Okinawa; P is for the Persian Gulf and Qatar for Q; Rwanda; Sarajevo-this year's hell; T is for Treblinka and Uganda U; Vietnam and Wounded knee. What's left to spell? And X to name the countless dissapeared when they are dust in Yemen or Zaire. UNTITLED. Secretly i am building in the heart a delicate structure like one of those cardhouses or popsicle palaces kids build, patiently piecing each part together, fingers pinching a small tube of glue, eyes straining to perceive what new thing i am making that takes so much time to finish if there's finish in these things. and making it out of nothing but what are ruins from an earlier effort and tempted constantly to beleieve that a readymade is better, and yet i've labored with my heart to outlast the heart with this thing i'm creating out of love. UNTITLED sometimes the words are so cloe i am more who i am when i'm down on paper than anywhere else as if my life were practising for the real me i become unbuttoned from the anectdotal and unnecessary and undressed down to the figure of the poem, line by line the real test a child could understand. why do i get confused living it through? those of you lose and yearning to be free, who hear these words, take heart from me. i once was in as many drafts as you. but briefly, essentially, here i am. who thouches this poem touches a woman. ~all the above by julia alavaraz NUMBERS numbers, i've decided they are the problem with life every barrier infront of me, is all because of numbers. either i am too young, or his age has too many numbers to it or the score on a test isn't a high enough number. for economic problems, to the number of dollars in my wallet number constantly influence and take over my life. i heard of a culture, where they count up to 3. once you past two, it's everything after that. i want to live there and embrace, their wonderful realization that numbers are nothing but a waste of time and constantly get in the way BY me! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:56:21 -0500 From: zerocool@sunlink.net (Niki) Subject: ET: a poem Here's the result of being extremely bored in 4th period Geometry. -Niki UNTITLED Child of the Night Save Yourself Step Into the Light Burn your shadowed fears Shed not Anymore angry tears Leave the world you've always known Fly away Fly away home ************************ Live For Today Dream For Tomorrow Learn From Yesterday ************************ ------------------------------ Date: 15 Sep 98 22:00:02 EDT From: genben@usa.net Subject: Re: [ET: bye] Hey, You know, every day I come home from one of my four jobs and I look at my messages from this, one of my three e-mail accounts, and I have the same feeling as Kara. Right now I have 167 unread messages in this account, all from this list. I am going to throw out the majority without even reading them, and that makes me sad. I wish I could keep up. I'm sorry to see Kara go, she is a talented poet and one of the first people I communicated with on the list. I fear that I may join her soon, but I'm still here for now. I just have no idea what's going on is all. Oh well, I'll catch up someday. Peace and love, Ben ps- Kara- don't be a stranger, I still want to hang out when the Dalai Lama comes; and I know I owe you a message. I really am trying. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 21:22:26 -0500 From: sesykes@juno.com (SES Pool) Subject: ET: thinking too much! Hey Angels, I personally don't like to see anyone quiting the lists for any reason. But i think to many people have quit the list for the reason of to much mail. I totally agree that people on the list reply to the list and the person. Please, i'm begging you. If it doesn't concern the list or users on the list then try to cut down the replies on that subject. I'm all for speaking your mind but really, some people think too much! ** Scott S.** -Big Sexy Angel "WHY DO YOU JUDGE ME, YOU'RE NOT MY PEERS YOU AINT LOVED ME FOR YEARS!" -Tupac Shakur R.I.P _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 23:38:30 -0400 From: "Seth D. Fulmer" Subject: ET: confusing situation Ok people, I'm in a sticky situation...I'm friends with a person by the name of "person 1"(just to keep straight) over the internet. She lives in Kansas but goes to school in Misouri. Now, the other day, her friend, "person 2" says "Hi" to me over AIM(thus I met her for the first time). We're talking today on AIM(me and person 2) and I started whining "WHERE IS PERSON 1?" and she's like "You like her, don't you?" Well..I didn't know what to say so I decided to use a line from Titanic "Well, that's a bit rude of you, don't you think?" which Rose Dawson says to Jack after he asks her if she loves her fiance. Well..after a while, person 2 responds and says "Well?"...so I admit that I could really care less if she asks but I don't want Person 1 to find out. Well...After admitting to Person 2 that I have a slight crush(ok, so I'm mad about her) on Person 1, she asks the bad question "What do I like about her?" Well...I told her what I like about Person 1(or told her what I could in 4 sentences or so) and now I'm not sure how to act around Person 1 anymore. I mean...I was acting "normal"(or so I thought) and evidently, person 1 suspected that I liked her...I dunno what to do...I can ignore it but it's sooooo hard to just act normal now. But like, Person 1 and I had agreed last year never to talk on the phone or meet in person. Then, Person 2 is suggesting that I have a cyber relationship with her...I said No because I'd rather be friends with her and be in a relationship with someone with a pulse....But it's all confusing and I needed to vent. Sorry if this makes people leave the list. :( Any suggestions would help...Any questions are welcome as well. Take care and Have a Great Day! :) Seth Fulmer mailto:usfulmer@mcs.drexel.edu mailto:st96t879@post.drexel.edu mailto:kaosking@voicenet.com webpages: http://www.voicenet.com/~kaosking Cool Quotes and stuff :) "You're a big fish in a small town bowl...You're a legend in your own mind..." - -Patty Scoboria - "Movin' on" ------------------------------ End of eda-thoughts-digest V1 #199 **********************************